| Vox |
Interesting nutritional analysis. Higher in protein than Soya,
high in lysine, all the essential amino-acids & vits. No
trypsin/chymotrypsin inhibitors or natural oestrogen like
soya has. No harmful alkaloids and only 10% fat.
If this is all for real, it should make the best base for hand rearing
and maintenance diets we've seen yet.
check out: http://www.goodgrains.com/lupin_characteristics.htm
Vox.
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| Owly |
YIKES, look at that protein level! About double what many species (and as
high as 8 times for some) need...their poor kidneys!
--
owly
http://www.ittybittybirdiebites.com
*** See you at the West Michigan Parrot Festival ***
==> Sat., 10/11 at the Holland, MI Civic Center! <==
Farmer's Market will be adjacent, stock up on fall goodies too!
This is a GREAT bird fair...Don't miss it!
"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
news:GSGdnTXTs53V_xiiU-KYgg@is.co.za...
> Interesting nutritional analysis. Higher in protein than Soya,
> high in lysine, all the essential amino-acids & vits. No
> trypsin/chymotrypsin inhibitors or natural oestrogen like
> soya has. No harmful alkaloids and only 10% fat.
> If this is all for real, it should make the best base for hand rearing
> and maintenance diets we've seen yet.
>
> check out: http://www.goodgrains.com/lupin_characteristics.htm
>
> Vox.
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| Toucanldy |
>From: "Vox" vox@dontryafrica.com
>Interesting nutritional analysis. Higher in protein than Soya,
>high in lysine, all the essential amino-acids & vits. No
>trypsin/chymotrypsin inhibitors or natural oestrogen like
>soya has. No harmful alkaloids and only 10% fat.
>If this is all for real, it should make the best base for hand rearing
>and maintenance diets we've seen yet.
>
>check out: http://www.goodgrains.com/lupin_characteristics.htm
>
>Vox.
Thank you.
Regards
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| Vox |
On 9-Oct-2003, "Owly" <owly@email.com> wrote:
> YIKES, look at that protein level! About double what many species (and as
> high as 8 times for some) need...their poor kidneys!
> --
> owly
You don't really expect anyone to feed it as an exclusive diet, do you?
Read my post again, I said a BASE for H/R and maintenance diet.
Naturally it would have to be mixed with other ingredients.
10% fat is too high as well, for anything other than Macaws or Capes.
Vox.
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| oldmolly |
"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
news:FrudnQeQAbwTJxiiU-KYuA@is.co.za...
>
> On 9-Oct-2003, "Owly" <owly@email.com> wrote:
>
> > YIKES, look at that protein level! About double what many species (and
as
> > high as 8 times for some) need...their poor kidneys!
> > --
> > owly
>
> You don't really expect anyone to feed it as an exclusive diet, do you?
> Read my post again, I said a BASE for H/R and maintenance diet.
> Naturally it would have to be mixed with other ingredients.
> 10% fat is too high as well, for anything other than Macaws or Capes.
> Vox
What is the point of using this as a 'base' for hand rearing formulas? What
is wrong with simply using a hand rearing formula on its own?
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| Vox |
On 9-Oct-2003, "oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> What is the point of using this as a 'base' for hand rearing formulas?
> What
> is wrong with simply using a hand rearing formula on its own?
You wouldn't be expected to know but most h/r formulas have a protein
percentage of between 17 and 20% and that is usually soya protein,
which leaves much to be desired. It is not easy to find a base staple
with anywhere near the analysis claimed for this bean/pea.
Aviplus in S.Africa are conducting a nutrititional analysis on lupins
right now but then they are not as bright as you, are they now?
Put a sock in it OM. You only show up your own ignorance when you
go off at the mouth, just for effect, like you are doing at present.
I don't have the time or the inclination to mix my own H/r formula,
so naturally I do use a proprietary brand and will continue to do so.
I don't keep any babies reared on oestrogen loaded soya protein,
back for breeding, because I believe that to be one of the prime
reasons for them making poor breeders in the first instance.
My post was meant to be informative. If you are not able to accept
this without becoming confrontational, then kindly refrain from
replying to anything I post in the future.
Vox.
Vox.
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| Loren Coe |
In article <B9CcnfA41rGFcxiiU-KYvg@is.co.za>, Vox wrote:
>
> On 9-Oct-2003, "oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> What is the point of using this as a 'base' for hand rearing formulas?
>> What
>> is wrong with simply using a hand rearing formula on its own?
>
> You wouldn't be expected to know but most h/r formulas have a protein
> percentage of between 17 and 20% and that is usually soya protein,
> which leaves much to be desired. It is not easy to find a base staple
> with anywhere near the analysis claimed for this bean/pea.
the hell with the birds, where can i buy some for myself? <grin> --Loren
> Aviplus in S.Africa are conducting a nutrititional analysis on lupins
> right now but then they are not as bright as you, are they now?
> Put a sock in it OM. You only show up your own ignorance when you
> go off at the mouth, just for effect, like you are doing at present.
> I don't have the time or the inclination to mix my own H/r formula,
> so naturally I do use a proprietary brand and will continue to do so.
> I don't keep any babies reared on oestrogen loaded soya protein,
> back for breeding, because I believe that to be one of the prime
> reasons for them making poor breeders in the first instance.
> My post was meant to be informative. If you are not able to accept
> this without becoming confrontational, then kindly refrain from
> replying to anything I post in the future.
>
> Vox.
>
> Vox.
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| Owly |
Heck that was going to be my next question too and you'd have been right in
that I wouldn't have known, hence the question...had I asked it...
--
owly (still trying to find that whole confrontational part...)
http://www.ittybittybirdiebites.com
*** See you at the West Michigan Parrot Festival ***
==> Sat., 10/11 at the Holland, MI Civic Center! <==
Farmer's Market will be adjacent, stock up on fall goodies too!
This is a GREAT bird fair...Don't miss it!
"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
news:B9CcnfA41rGFcxiiU-KYvg@is.co.za...
>
> On 9-Oct-2003, "oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > What is the point of using this as a 'base' for hand rearing formulas?
> > What
> > is wrong with simply using a hand rearing formula on its own?
>
> You wouldn't be expected to know but most h/r formulas have a protein
> percentage of between 17 and 20% and that is usually soya protein,
> which leaves much to be desired. It is not easy to find a base staple
> with anywhere near the analysis claimed for this bean/pea.
> Aviplus in S.Africa are conducting a nutrititional analysis on lupins
> right now but then they are not as bright as you, are they now?
> Put a sock in it OM. You only show up your own ignorance when you
> go off at the mouth, just for effect, like you are doing at present.
> I don't have the time or the inclination to mix my own H/r formula,
> so naturally I do use a proprietary brand and will continue to do so.
> I don't keep any babies reared on oestrogen loaded soya protein,
> back for breeding, because I believe that to be one of the prime
> reasons for them making poor breeders in the first instance.
> My post was meant to be informative. If you are not able to accept
> this without becoming confrontational, then kindly refrain from
> replying to anything I post in the future.
>
> Vox.
>
> Vox.
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| Vox |
On 10-Oct-2003, "Owly" <owly@email.com> wrote:
> Heck that was going to be my next question too and you'd have been right
> in
> that I wouldn't have known, hence the question...had I asked it...
Between you and OM, you add new meaning to the phrase
' menopausal knee jerk response'. The two of you are so
predictable in your replies, you are becoming boring.
I guess it didn't occur to either of you that existing proprietary brands
of H/R formula might be improved by using a better source of protein
and amino acids as THEIR base.
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| Owly |
Whether it occured to me or not, if I asked a question about a subject with
which you are familiar and I'm not, I don't know why it would be labelled
confrontational...and not sure what the state of my hormones has to do with
anything anyway - but thanks for the link at any rate, it was interesting.
And thanks for the comparison to OldMolly, I'm honored :).
--
owly
http://www.ittybittybirdiebites.com
*** See you at the West Michigan Parrot Festival ***
==> Sat., 10/11 at the Holland, MI Civic Center! <==
Farmer's Market will be adjacent, stock up on fall goodies too!
This is a GREAT bird fair...Don't miss it!
"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
news:WC6dnWVGz8_KwRuiXTWJjw@is.co.za...
> Between you and OM, you add new meaning to the phrase
> ' menopausal knee jerk response'. The two of you are so
> predictable in your replies, you are becoming boring.
> I guess it didn't occur to either of you that existing proprietary brands
> of H/R formula might be improved by using a better source of protein
> and amino acids as THEIR base.
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| Vox |
On 10-Oct-2003, "Owly" <owly@email.com> wrote:
> Whether it occured to me or not, if I asked a question about a subject
> with
> which you are familiar and I'm not, I don't know why it would be labelled
> confrontational...and not sure what the state of my hormones has to do
> with
> anything anyway - but thanks for the link at any rate, it was interesting.
> And thanks for the comparison to OldMolly, I'm honored :).
> --
> owly
You could have fooled me. does this look like a non-confrontational
question to you?
sic: > YIKES, look at that protein level! About double what many species
(and as
>high as 8 times for some) need...their poor kidneys!
>--
>owly
Since I had a 'run in' with OM (and to a lesser extent you) some time back,
both of
you have gone out of your way to come up with smartass remarks each time I
post a message to the list. Neither of you are anywhere near as smart as you
think you are and I am becoming just a little ' gatvol' with the whole
situation.
Little wonder OM couldn't make any of her multiple marriages work out. It
would
have taken a saint to put up with her c#*p for any longer than 12 hours at
a stretch.
As for you. If you are not familiar with a subject, I suggest you tone down
the
nature of your comments and make those questions look like questions.
That is what question marks were intended to be used for. An exclamation
mark
is something totally different and it is far enough away from the query, not
to have
been taken for an innocuous typo.
Vox.
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| Debbie Krug |
"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
news:GSGdnTXTs53V_xiiU-KYgg@is.co.za...
> Interesting nutritional analysis. Higher in protein than Soya,
> high in lysine, all the essential amino-acids & vits. No
> trypsin/chymotrypsin inhibitors or natural oestrogen like
> soya has. No harmful alkaloids and only 10% fat.
> If this is all for real, it should make the best base for hand rearing
> and maintenance diets we've seen yet.
>
> check out: http://www.goodgrains.com/lupin_characteristics.htm
>
> Vox.
I have read some articles about lupin and its use in different farm animals.
It sounds almost too good to be true. Would you happen to have heard of its
use in feed for hair goats? I know S. Africa produces some outstanding
angora goats.
--
Debbie, Dusty (CAG) and Casperella (U2)
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| Marco |
"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
news:6-WcnUH51aRkcRuiXTWJlg@is.co.za...
>
> On 10-Oct-2003, "Owly" <owly@email.com> wrote:
>
> > Whether it occured to me or not, if I asked a question about a subject
> > with
> > which you are familiar and I'm not, I don't know why it would be
labelled
> > confrontational...and not sure what the state of my hormones has to do
> > with
> > anything anyway - but thanks for the link at any rate, it was
interesting.
> > And thanks for the comparison to OldMolly, I'm honored :).
> > --
> > owly
>
>
> You could have fooled me. does this look like a non-confrontational
> question to you?
>
> sic: > YIKES, look at that protein level! About double what many species
> (and as
> >high as 8 times for some) need...their poor kidneys!
> >--
> >owly
>
> Since I had a 'run in' with OM (and to a lesser extent you) some time
back,
> both of
> you have gone out of your way to come up with smartass remarks each time I
> post a message to the list. Neither of you are anywhere near as smart as
you
> think you are and I am becoming just a little ' gatvol' with the whole
> situation.
> Little wonder OM couldn't make any of her multiple marriages work out. It
> would
> have taken a saint to put up with her c#*p for any longer than 12 hours
at
> a stretch.
> As for you. If you are not familiar with a subject, I suggest you tone
down
> the
> nature of your comments and make those questions look like questions.
> That is what question marks were intended to be used for. An exclamation
> mark
> is something totally different and it is far enough away from the query,
not
> to have
> been taken for an innocuous typo.
>
> Vox.
Jeez, what crawled up your Happy Hut?
M.
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| Marco |
"oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Marco" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:gVChb.460$P%1.272521@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> > "Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
> > news:6-WcnUH51aRkcRuiXTWJlg@is.co.za...
> > >
> > > On 10-Oct-2003, "Owly" <owly@email.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Whether it occured to me or not, if I asked a question about a
subject
> > > > with
> > > > which you are familiar and I'm not, I don't know why it would be
> > labelled
> > > > confrontational...and not sure what the state of my hormones has to
do
> > > > with
> > > > anything anyway - but thanks for the link at any rate, it was
> > interesting.
> > > > And thanks for the comparison to OldMolly, I'm honored :).
> > > > --
> > > > owly
> > >
> > >
> > > You could have fooled me. does this look like a non-confrontational
> > > question to you?
> > >
> > > sic: > YIKES, look at that protein level! About double what many
> species
> > > (and as
> > > >high as 8 times for some) need...their poor kidneys!
> > > >--
> > > >owly
> > >
> > > Since I had a 'run in' with OM (and to a lesser extent you) some time
> > back,
> > > both of
> > > you have gone out of your way to come up with smartass remarks each
time
> I
> > > post a message to the list. Neither of you are anywhere near as smart
as
> > you
> > > think you are and I am becoming just a little ' gatvol' with the whole
> > > situation.
> > > Little wonder OM couldn't make any of her multiple marriages work out.
> It
> > > would
> > > have taken a saint to put up with her c#*p for any longer than 12
hours
> > at
> > > a stretch.
> > > As for you. If you are not familiar with a subject, I suggest you tone
> > down
> > > the
> > > nature of your comments and make those questions look like questions.
> > > That is what question marks were intended to be used for. An
exclamation
> > > mark
> > > is something totally different and it is far enough away from the
query,
> > not
> > > to have
> > > been taken for an innocuous typo.
> > >
> > > Vox.
> >
> > Jeez, what crawled up your Happy Hut?
> >
> Not me that's for sure hehe.
> Man oh man does *he* have some issues.
>
>
Molly, you are a bad, bad influence... Owly used to be a nice, sweet lady!
I'm telling ya... one bad apple! LOL
(j/k you know :P)
M.
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| oldmolly |
"Marco" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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>
> "oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:CzEhb.234$IA.183@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net...
> >
> > "Marco" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> > news:gVChb.460$P%1.272521@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...
> > >
> > > "Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
> > > news:6-WcnUH51aRkcRuiXTWJlg@is.co.za...
> > > >
> > > > On 10-Oct-2003, "Owly" <owly@email.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Whether it occured to me or not, if I asked a question about a
> subject
> > > > > with
> > > > > which you are familiar and I'm not, I don't know why it would be
> > > labelled
> > > > > confrontational...and not sure what the state of my hormones has
to
> do
> > > > > with
> > > > > anything anyway - but thanks for the link at any rate, it was
> > > interesting.
> > > > > And thanks for the comparison to OldMolly, I'm honored :).
> > > > > --
> > > > > owly
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You could have fooled me. does this look like a non-confrontational
> > > > question to you?
> > > >
> > > > sic: > YIKES, look at that protein level! About double what many
> > species
> > > > (and as
> > > > >high as 8 times for some) need...their poor kidneys!
> > > > >--
> > > > >owly
> > > >
> > > > Since I had a 'run in' with OM (and to a lesser extent you) some
time
> > > back,
> > > > both of
> > > > you have gone out of your way to come up with smartass remarks each
> time
> > I
> > > > post a message to the list. Neither of you are anywhere near as
smart
> as
> > > you
> > > > think you are and I am becoming just a little ' gatvol' with the
whole
> > > > situation.
> > > > Little wonder OM couldn't make any of her multiple marriages work
out.
> > It
> > > > would
> > > > have taken a saint to put up with her c#*p for any longer than 12
> hours
> > > at
> > > > a stretch.
> > > > As for you. If you are not familiar with a subject, I suggest you
tone
> > > down
> > > > the
> > > > nature of your comments and make those questions look like
questions.
> > > > That is what question marks were intended to be used for. An
> exclamation
> > > > mark
> > > > is something totally different and it is far enough away from the
> query,
> > > not
> > > > to have
> > > > been taken for an innocuous typo.
> > > >
> > > > Vox.
> > >
> > > Jeez, what crawled up your Happy Hut?
> > >
> > Not me that's for sure hehe.
> > Man oh man does *he* have some issues.
> >
> >
>
> Molly, you are a bad, bad influence... Owly used to be a nice, sweet lady!
> I'm telling ya... one bad apple! LOL
> (j/k you know :P)
>
I don't know *what* you mean :0)
Owly is *still* a nice sweet lady. And so am I.
Vox just seems to have problems with wimmin expressing an opinion.
Of course I knew you were only joking maaarrrco :0)
My friend offered me one of his baby B&G macaws cheap. But I am stony broke
boohoo.
I am still getting my GW though as soon as the pair breeds. I am just sooo
ecxited. Oh it's lovely being single and able to do exactly as I please
..(smiles happily)
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| oldmolly |
"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
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>
> On 9-Oct-2003, "oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > What is the point of using this as a 'base' for hand rearing formulas?
> > What
> > is wrong with simply using a hand rearing formula on its own?
>
> You wouldn't be expected to know but most h/r formulas have a protein
> percentage of between 17 and 20% and that is usually soya protein,
> which leaves much to be desired. It is not easy to find a base staple
> with anywhere near the analysis claimed for this bean/pea.
> Aviplus in S.Africa are conducting a nutrititional analysis on lupins
> right now but then they are not as bright as you, are they now?
> Put a sock in it OM. You only show up your own ignorance when you
> go off at the mouth, just for effect, like you are doing at present.
I simply asked a question as I could not understand why anyone would muck
about with a successful formular.
In real life do you simply expect people to assume that you are correct in
all things and never question you?
> I don't have the time or the inclination to mix my own H/r formula,
> so naturally I do use a proprietary brand and will continue to do so.
> I don't keep any babies reared on oestrogen loaded soya protein,
> back for breeding, because I believe that to be one of the prime
> reasons for them making poor breeders in the first instance.
It has long been known that hand reared birds do not make good breeders but
not because of what they have been fed, rather because they are more bonded
to humans than others of t heir species. And there has been scientific doubt
placed upon the type and amount of oestrogen in soya in recent years. This I
know because I am going through the menopause and because I am not happy
with the cruelty involved in the production of premarin, I needed to look at
alternatives. Soya was one I looked at and discarded.
> My post was meant to be informative. If you are not able to accept
> this without becoming confrontational, then kindly refrain from
> replying to anything I post in the future.
But the whole point about information is that people will want to question
things and have points clarified, not simply accept every worth in blind
faith. I think you are rather arrogant to expect us to do so.I will reply to
your posts as I see fit I'm afraid. You might be a control freak in real
life but it means bugger all to me chum.
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| oldmolly |
"Marco" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
> news:6-WcnUH51aRkcRuiXTWJlg@is.co.za...
> >
> > On 10-Oct-2003, "Owly" <owly@email.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Whether it occured to me or not, if I asked a question about a subject
> > > with
> > > which you are familiar and I'm not, I don't know why it would be
> labelled
> > > confrontational...and not sure what the state of my hormones has to do
> > > with
> > > anything anyway - but thanks for the link at any rate, it was
> interesting.
> > > And thanks for the comparison to OldMolly, I'm honored :).
> > > --
> > > owly
> >
> >
> > You could have fooled me. does this look like a non-confrontational
> > question to you?
> >
> > sic: > YIKES, look at that protein level! About double what many
species
> > (and as
> > >high as 8 times for some) need...their poor kidneys!
> > >--
> > >owly
> >
> > Since I had a 'run in' with OM (and to a lesser extent you) some time
> back,
> > both of
> > you have gone out of your way to come up with smartass remarks each time
I
> > post a message to the list. Neither of you are anywhere near as smart as
> you
> > think you are and I am becoming just a little ' gatvol' with the whole
> > situation.
> > Little wonder OM couldn't make any of her multiple marriages work out.
It
> > would
> > have taken a saint to put up with her c#*p for any longer than 12 hours
> at
> > a stretch.
> > As for you. If you are not familiar with a subject, I suggest you tone
> down
> > the
> > nature of your comments and make those questions look like questions.
> > That is what question marks were intended to be used for. An exclamation
> > mark
> > is something totally different and it is far enough away from the query,
> not
> > to have
> > been taken for an innocuous typo.
> >
> > Vox.
>
> Jeez, what crawled up your Happy Hut?
>
Not me that's for sure hehe.
Man oh man does *he* have some issues.
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| Mamabird |
"oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Marco" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > "oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > news:CzEhb.234$IA.183@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net...
> > >
> > > "Marco" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> > > news:gVChb.460$P%1.272521@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...
> > > >
> > > > "Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:6-WcnUH51aRkcRuiXTWJlg@is.co.za...
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10-Oct-2003, "Owly" <owly@email.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Whether it occured to me or not, if I asked a question about a
> > subject
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > which you are familiar and I'm not, I don't know why it would
be
> > > > labelled
> > > > > > confrontational...and not sure what the state of my hormones
has
> to
> > do
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > anything anyway - but thanks for the link at any rate, it was
> > > > interesting.
> > > > > > And thanks for the comparison to OldMolly, I'm honored :).
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > owly
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You could have fooled me. does this look like a
non- confrontational
> > > > > question to you?
> > > > >
> > > > > sic: > YIKES, look at that protein level! About double what many
> > > species
> > > > > (and as
> > > > > >high as 8 times for some) need...their poor kidneys!
> > > > > >--
> > > > > >owly
> > > > >
> > > > > Since I had a 'run in' with OM (and to a lesser extent you) some
> time
> > > > back,
> > > > > both of
> > > > > you have gone out of your way to come up with smartass remarks
each
> > time
> > > I
> > > > > post a message to the list. Neither of you are anywhere near as
> smart
> > as
> > > > you
> > > > > think you are and I am becoming just a little ' gatvol' with the
> whole
> > > > > situation.
> > > > > Little wonder OM couldn't make any of her multiple marriages work
> out.
> > > It
> > > > > would
> > > > > have taken a saint to put up with her c#*p for any longer than
12
> > hours
> > > > at
> > > > > a stretch.
> > > > > As for you. If you are not familiar with a subject, I suggest you
> tone
> > > > down
> > > > > the
> > > > > nature of your comments and make those questions look like
> questions.
> > > > > That is what question marks were intended to be used for. An
> > exclamation
> > > > > mark
> > > > > is something totally different and it is far enough away from the
> > query,
> > > > not
> > > > > to have
> > > > > been taken for an innocuous typo.
> > > > >
> > > > > Vox.
> > > >
> > > > Jeez, what crawled up your Happy Hut?
> > > >
> > > Not me that's for sure hehe.
> > > Man oh man does *he* have some issues.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Molly, you are a bad, bad influence... Owly used to be a nice, sweet
lady!
> > I'm telling ya... one bad apple! LOL
> > (j/k you know :P)
> >
> I don't know *what* you mean :0)
> Owly is *still* a nice sweet lady. And so am I.
> Vox just seems to have problems with wimmin expressing an opinion.
> Of course I knew you were only joking maaarrrco :0)
Lawrence Lumley (Vox) has always been an ass. Google him sometime and
you'll see what I mean.
> My friend offered me one of his baby B&G macaws cheap. But I am stony
broke
> boohoo.
> I am still getting my GW though as soon as the pair breeds. I am just
sooo
> ecxited. Oh it's lovely being single and able to do exactly as I please
> .(smiles happily)
Well, Miss Smarty Pants, I am also now officially single and can do exactly
as I please. Look out world! :>)
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| Owly |
Unfortunately my memory isn't good enough to remember what I've discussed
with who in the past, and I type how I talk, which is often quite
animated...but I will try to remember not to comment on your posts in the
future (unfortunately may forget eventually - apologies in advance)...sorry
for the confusion.
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http://www.ittybittybirdiebites.com
*** See you at the West Michigan Parrot Festival ***
==> Sat., 10/11 at the Holland, MI Civic Center! <==
Farmer's Market will be adjacent, stock up on fall goodies too!
This is a GREAT bird fair...Don't miss it!
"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
news:6-WcnUH51aRkcRuiXTWJlg@is.co.za...
>
> On 10-Oct-2003, "Owly" <owly@email.com> wrote:
>
> > Whether it occured to me or not, if I asked a question about a subject
> > with
> > which you are familiar and I'm not, I don't know why it would be
labelled
> > confrontational...and not sure what the state of my hormones has to do
> > with
> > anything anyway - but thanks for the link at any rate, it was
interesting.
> > And thanks for the comparison to OldMolly, I'm honored :).
> > --
> > owly
>
>
> You could have fooled me. does this look like a non-confrontational
> question to you?
>
> sic: > YIKES, look at that protein level! About double what many species
> (and as
> >high as 8 times for some) need...their poor kidneys!
> >--
> >owly
>
> Since I had a 'run in' with OM (and to a lesser extent you) some time
back,
> both of
> you have gone out of your way to come up with smartass remarks each time I
> post a message to the list. Neither of you are anywhere near as smart as
you
> think you are and I am becoming just a little ' gatvol' with the whole
> situation.
> Little wonder OM couldn't make any of her multiple marriages work out. It
> would
> have taken a saint to put up with her c#*p for any longer than 12 hours
at
> a stretch.
> As for you. If you are not familiar with a subject, I suggest you tone
down
> the
> nature of your comments and make those questions look like questions.
> That is what question marks were intended to be used for. An exclamation
> mark
> is something totally different and it is far enough away from the query,
not
> to have
> been taken for an innocuous typo.
>
> Vox.
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:32:25 GMT, "Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote:
>Since I had a 'run in' with OM (and to a lesser extent you) some time back,
>both of
>you have gone out of your way to come up with smartass remarks each time I
>post a message to the list. Neither of you are anywhere near as smart as you
>think you are and I am becoming just a little ' gatvol' with the whole
>situation.
As a third party observer, I'd say you're over reacting and just
looking for a reason to jump on Owly and/or OM. Your posts are very
confrontational. But then, maybe I'm part of the conspiracy too. ;)
Becky
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| Vox |
On 11-Oct-2003, "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote:
> Lawrence Lumley (Vox) has always been an ass. Google him sometime and
> you'll see what I mean.
I see you still insist that I am LL. I have met him and I wish I had half
his
bird smarts. Any breeder who can visually sex his baby Greys BEFORE he rings
them at 10-11 days old and gets it right, deserves my respect.. It has
something
to do with how the pigment in the skin develops over the first 10 days. (he
rings
the hens on the left leg and the cocks on the right). LL knows his birds
backwards,
I can assure you, he is anything but an ass.
I notice you also have problems in maintaining happy conjugal
relationships, but
naturally not your fault at all. Hmmm??---Is there a pattern developing
here???
--------Oh well, **** happens.-----, but it sure explains a lot !!!
Vox.
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| Vox |
On 11-Oct-2003, Starlight <homehealth_rnDELETE@yahoo.com> wrote:
> As a third party observer, I'd say you're over reacting and just
> looking for a reason to jump on Owly and/or OM. Your posts are very
> confrontational. But then, maybe I'm part of the conspiracy too. ;)
Are you also a divorcee???
Vox.
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| Vox |
On 10-Oct-2003, "Debbie Krug" <dkrug@nospamtband.net> wrote:
> > Vox.
>
> I have read some articles about lupin and its use in different farm
> animals.
> It sounds almost too good to be true. Would you happen to have heard of
> its
> use in feed for hair goats? I know S. Africa produces some outstanding
> angora goats.
They have been used as fodder for generations here but mostly in silage.
I don't think the nutritional value has been fully appreciated before.
Lupins have always been used as a rotational crop to replace nitrogen in
the soil. The treated seed for planting is available on order but trying to
find
untreated fodder seed is not that easy. Most farmers harvest for silage
before the seed pods have ripened. Hopefully all that will change now
and we will be able to buy lupins in the produce stores.
Seed for planting sells at around US$ .50c a Kg (2.2 lbs). So in addition
to it's nutritional value, it is inexpensive too.
Vox.
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| Starlight |
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:24:47 GMT, "Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote:
>
>Are you also a divorcee???
>
Just had our 25th wedding anniversary. Why?
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| Vox |
On 11-Oct-2003, Starlight <homehealth_rnDELETE@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Are you also a divorcee???
> >
> Just had our 25th wedding anniversary. Why?
Then you obviously can't be part of the conspiracy------sorry.
Vox.
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"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
news:4Qednaov2L6VLRqiXTWJkQ@is.co.za...
>
> On 11-Oct-2003, "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote:
>
> > Lawrence Lumley (Vox) has always been an ass. Google him sometime and
> > you'll see what I mean.
>
> I see you still insist that I am LL. I have met him and I wish I had
half
> his
> bird smarts. Any breeder who can visually sex his baby Greys BEFORE he
rings
> them at 10-11 days old and gets it right, deserves my respect.. It has
> something
> to do with how the pigment in the skin develops over the first 10 days.
(he
> rings
> the hens on the left leg and the cocks on the right). LL knows his
birds
> backwards,
> I can assure you, he is anything but an ass.
You... er, I mean "he" is an ass, as "his" posting history makes abundantly
clear.
I don't give a flip if "he" knows birds upside down and inside out, it
doesn't change the fact that "he" is an ass.
> I notice you also have problems in maintaining happy conjugal
> relationships, but
> naturally not your fault at all. Hmmm??---Is there a pattern developing
> here???
Looks like a "pattern" to me! Yep! Only forty four years married to the
same man - just goes to show I can't maintain a happy relationship. Oh, and
of course it was ALL MY FAULT... I DESERVED all the hitting, spitting and
yelling. WHAT was I THINKING?!
I always think it's funny when idiots like you start throwing out this kind
of crap because you can't think of anything legitimate to respond with.
Blame it on hormones. Blame it on menopause. Blame it on a failed marriage.
Yeah, that's a real intelligent response.
Does this mean you put me in the same category with Owly and oldmolly? I
HOPE SO!!! Strange, I can't think of a single *man* you've treated with
such disrespect.
Hmmm??---Is there a pattern developing here???
> --------Oh well, **** happens.-----, but it sure explains a lot !!!
Exactly WHAT does it explain, stupid?
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"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
news:4QednaUv2L6XLRqiXTWJkQ@is.co.za...
>
> On 11-Oct-2003, Starlight <homehealth_rnDELETE@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > As a third party observer, I'd say you're over reacting and just
> > looking for a reason to jump on Owly and/or OM. Your posts are very
> > confrontational. But then, maybe I'm part of the conspiracy too. ;)
>
> Are you also a divorcee???
>
> Vox.
That sounds exactly like something "Larry" would say. Just a "coincidence?"
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| Vox |
On 11-Oct-2003, "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote:
> Oh, and
> of course it was ALL MY FAULT... I DESERVED all the hitting, spitting and
> yelling. WHAT was I THINKING?!
Yep, you were just sitting there and he came along and spat at you, then
gave
you a whack! I am sure you did nothing to provoke the poor " B".
Your record regarding 'attitude' speaks volumes in this case and it aint in
your favour either.
> I can't think of a single *man* you've treated with
> such disrespect.
Since you are so good at ' googling', try looking up the spat I had with
D.C.
> > --------Oh well, **** happens.-----, but it sure explains a lot !!!
>
> Exactly WHAT does it explain, stupid?
If the cap fits----wear it.
poor mama, I think all the stress is making you loose it !
Vox.
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| Vox |
On 11-Oct-2003, "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote:
> That sounds exactly like something "Larry" would say. Just a
> "coincidence?"
> --
> Mama
No, not really, we are both S.African, had the same education and are
about the same age, give or take 5 years. Why shouldn't we sound
similar.
Vox.
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| Ian |
WAY TO GO MAMA!! :-)
and just to make you smile .........
> Blame it on hormones. Blame it on menopause. Blame it on a failed
marriage.
Blame it on the boogie!! (sorry, I'm not being nasty, but couldn't
resist....take care Mama)
Ian
"Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote in message
news:ABWhb.6364$av5.2512@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> "Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
> news:4Qednaov2L6VLRqiXTWJkQ@is.co.za...
> >
> > On 11-Oct-2003, "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Lawrence Lumley (Vox) has always been an ass. Google him sometime and
> > > you'll see what I mean.
> >
> > I see you still insist that I am LL. I have met him and I wish I had
> half
> > his
> > bird smarts. Any breeder who can visually sex his baby Greys BEFORE he
> rings
> > them at 10-11 days old and gets it right, deserves my respect.. It has
> > something
> > to do with how the pigment in the skin develops over the first 10 days.
> (he
> > rings
> > the hens on the left leg and the cocks on the right). LL knows his
> birds
> > backwards,
> > I can assure you, he is anything but an ass.
>
> You... er, I mean "he" is an ass, as "his" posting history makes
abundantly
> clear.
> I don't give a flip if "he" knows birds upside down and inside out, it
> doesn't change the fact that "he" is an ass.
>
> > I notice you also have problems in maintaining happy conjugal
> > relationships, but
> > naturally not your fault at all. Hmmm??---Is there a pattern developing
> > here???
>
> Looks like a "pattern" to me! Yep! Only forty four years married to the
> same man - just goes to show I can't maintain a happy relationship. Oh,
and
> of course it was ALL MY FAULT... I DESERVED all the hitting, spitting and
> yelling. WHAT was I THINKING?!
>
> I always think it's funny when idiots like you start throwing out this
kind
> of crap because you can't think of anything legitimate to respond with.
> Blame it on hormones. Blame it on menopause. Blame it on a failed
marriage.
> Yeah, that's a real intelligent response.
> Does this mean you put me in the same category with Owly and oldmolly? I
> HOPE SO!!! Strange, I can't think of a single *man* you've treated with
> such disrespect.
> Hmmm??---Is there a pattern developing here???
>
> > --------Oh well, **** happens.-----, but it sure explains a lot !!!
>
> Exactly WHAT does it explain, stupid?
> --
> Mama
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> Photo Albums at: <http://photos.yahoo.com/iluvbirdz>
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Yeah, let's blame it on the boogie! Heh-heh!
Thanks Ian. Give that little girl of yours scritches from me... she still
doing better?
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"Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:54Yhb.1$Sv5.0@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> WAY TO GO MAMA!! :-)
>
> and just to make you smile .........
>
> > Blame it on hormones. Blame it on menopause. Blame it on a failed
> marriage.
>
> Blame it on the boogie!! (sorry, I'm not being nasty, but couldn't
> resist....take care Mama)
> Ian
>
> "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote in message
> news:ABWhb.6364$av5.2512@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > "Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
> > news:4Qednaov2L6VLRqiXTWJkQ@is.co.za...
> > >
> > > On 11-Oct-2003, "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Lawrence Lumley (Vox) has always been an ass. Google him sometime
and
> > > > you'll see what I mean.
> > >
> > > I see you still insist that I am LL. I have met him and I wish I
had
> > half
> > > his
> > > bird smarts. Any breeder who can visually sex his baby Greys BEFORE
he
> > rings
> > > them at 10-11 days old and gets it right, deserves my respect.. It
has
> > > something
> > > to do with how the pigment in the skin develops over the first 10
days.
> > (he
> > > rings
> > > the hens on the left leg and the cocks on the right). LL knows his
> > birds
> > > backwards,
> > > I can assure you, he is anything but an ass.
> >
> > You... er, I mean "he" is an ass, as "his" posting history makes
> abundantly
> > clear.
> > I don't give a flip if "he" knows birds upside down and inside out, it
> > doesn't change the fact that "he" is an ass.
> >
> > > I notice you also have problems in maintaining happy conjugal
> > > relationships, but
> > > naturally not your fault at all. Hmmm??---Is there a pattern
developing
> > > here???
> >
> > Looks like a "pattern" to me! Yep! Only forty four years married to the
> > same man - just goes to show I can't maintain a happy relationship. Oh,
> and
> > of course it was ALL MY FAULT... I DESERVED all the hitting, spitting
and
> > yelling. WHAT was I THINKING?!
> >
> > I always think it's funny when idiots like you start throwing out this
> kind
> > of crap because you can't think of anything legitimate to respond with.
> > Blame it on hormones. Blame it on menopause. Blame it on a failed
> marriage.
> > Yeah, that's a real intelligent response.
> > Does this mean you put me in the same category with Owly and oldmolly?
I
> > HOPE SO!!! Strange, I can't think of a single *man* you've treated with
> > such disrespect.
> > Hmmm??---Is there a pattern developing here???
> >
> > > --------Oh well, **** happens.-----, but it sure explains a lot !!!
> >
> > Exactly WHAT does it explain, stupid?
> > --
> > Mama
> > ~^~^~^~ Visit Mamabird's Nest: <http://iluvbirds.tripod.com/> And My
> > Photo Albums at: <http://photos.yahoo.com/iluvbirdz>
> > ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
> >
>
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| Ian |
Hehehe, see I am going crazy!! it's probably the worry over Poppet!!
You're welcome Mama, I did just post something else asking You and Herman to
quit the arguing!! I know I've got a cheek!! ;-) I did post somewhere that
Poppet is a bit out-of-sorts this evening, She's probably pretty confused as
to what's happened to her over the past 6 days, that's the problem you can
explain it to a child, but I'm pretty sure she knows that she is LOVED
soooooo much, she's pretty unsteady still sometimes, but that's likely to be
the fluid pressure on her brain which will take some time to reduce back to
normal.
Ian ^0^
"Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote in message
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> Yeah, let's blame it on the boogie! Heh-heh!
> Thanks Ian. Give that little girl of yours scritches from me... she still
> doing better?
> --
> Mama
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>
> "Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:54Yhb.1$Sv5.0@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > WAY TO GO MAMA!! :-)
> >
> > and just to make you smile .........
> >
> > > Blame it on hormones. Blame it on menopause. Blame it on a failed
> > marriage.
> >
> > Blame it on the boogie!! (sorry, I'm not being nasty, but couldn't
> > resist....take care Mama)
> > Ian
> >
> > "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote in message
> > news:ABWhb.6364$av5.2512@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > "Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4Qednaov2L6VLRqiXTWJkQ@is.co.za...
> > > >
> > > > On 11-Oct-2003, "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Lawrence Lumley (Vox) has always been an ass. Google him sometime
> and
> > > > > you'll see what I mean.
> > > >
> > > > I see you still insist that I am LL. I have met him and I wish I
> had
> > > half
> > > > his
> > > > bird smarts. Any breeder who can visually sex his baby Greys BEFORE
> he
> > > rings
> > > > them at 10-11 days old and gets it right, deserves my respect.. It
> has
> > > > something
> > > > to do with how the pigment in the skin develops over the first 10
> days.
> > > (he
> > > > rings
> > > > the hens on the left leg and the cocks on the right). LL knows his
> > > birds
> > > > backwards,
> > > > I can assure you, he is anything but an ass.
> > >
> > > You... er, I mean "he" is an ass, as "his" posting history makes
> > abundantly
> > > clear.
> > > I don't give a flip if "he" knows birds upside down and inside out, it
> > > doesn't change the fact that "he" is an ass.
> > >
> > > > I notice you also have problems in maintaining happy conjugal
> > > > relationships, but
> > > > naturally not your fault at all. Hmmm??---Is there a pattern
> developing
> > > > here???
> > >
> > > Looks like a "pattern" to me! Yep! Only forty four years married to
the
> > > same man - just goes to show I can't maintain a happy relationship.
Oh,
> > and
> > > of course it was ALL MY FAULT... I DESERVED all the hitting, spitting
> and
> > > yelling. WHAT was I THINKING?!
> > >
> > > I always think it's funny when idiots like you start throwing out this
> > kind
> > > of crap because you can't think of anything legitimate to respond
with.
> > > Blame it on hormones. Blame it on menopause. Blame it on a failed
> > marriage.
> > > Yeah, that's a real intelligent response.
> > > Does this mean you put me in the same category with Owly and oldmolly?
> I
> > > HOPE SO!!! Strange, I can't think of a single *man* you've treated
with
> > > such disrespect.
> > > Hmmm??---Is there a pattern developing here???
> > >
> > > > --------Oh well, **** happens.-----, but it sure explains a lot !!!
> > >
> > > Exactly WHAT does it explain, stupid?
> > > --
> > > Mama
> > > ~^~^~^~ Visit Mamabird's Nest: <http://iluvbirds.tripod.com/> And My
> > > Photo Albums at: <http://photos.yahoo.com/iluvbirdz>
> > > ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
> > >
> >
> >
>
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"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
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>
> On 11-Oct-2003, "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote:
>
> > Lawrence Lumley (Vox) has always been an ass. Google him sometime and
> > you'll see what I mean.
>
> I see you still insist that I am LL. I have met him and I wish I had
half
> his
> bird smarts. Any breeder who can visually sex his baby Greys BEFORE he
rings
> them at 10-11 days old and gets it right, deserves my respect.. It has
> something
> to do with how the pigment in the skin develops over the first 10 days.
(he
> rings
> the hens on the left leg and the cocks on the right). LL knows his
birds
> backwards,
> I can assure you, he is anything but an ass.
<snip>
But just last June you said you'd never met "Larry." So in the last 3-4
months you've not only met him but know all about him?
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From: Vox (vox@beaverliquor.net)
Subject: Re: Macaws and "testing" now constricted toe syndrome.
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Date: 2003-06-24 02:35:04 PST
On 23-Jun-2003, "Mamabird" <iluvbirdz.@direclink.net> wrote:
> > > IMO it doesn't matter what causes this syndrome. What matters is that
it's
> > > treatable and Mr. Cook was totally negligent by his inaction. Instead
he
> > > dumped his "problem bird" on someone else, but by then it was too
late to
> > > save the foot and I suspect he knew that.
Just hold on a moment lady? How do you know that DC did not treat the bird.
CTS is not a problem affecting the whole foot either. It affects a single
digit.
> PS- After all these years you still hate me, huh, Lumley? It was sooooooo
> funny when you accused me of being Layne David Dicker's wife or sister or
> some **** like that. I wrote LDD about that and we both had a good laugh.
Why is it that whenever you paint yourself into a corner, you bring up this
Lumley
character? I have not had the pleasure of meeting him, but I admire the
lasting
indelible impression he seems to have made on your excuse for a brain.
Vox.
effect he seems to have had
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On 11-Oct-2003, "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote:
> But just last June you said you'd never met "Larry." So in the last 3-4
> months you've not only met him but know all about him?
Yes, I met him in July or August when he gave an informal talk at
a bird club meeting. A very nice person who does not put on airs.
Very helpful and doesn't mind sharing his experience.
he has an extremely sharp wit too.
I discussed RPB with him and he said I was wasting my time here
and that the real meat was in the moderated lists, not on usenet.
You've grabbed the bull by the udder with the posts you quoted. The
fight I had with DC. was all about grit and took place some months
before that.
Do some more googling but don't forget to take your depression meds
first this time.
Vox.
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"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
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>
> On 11-Oct-2003, "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote:
>
> > That sounds exactly like something "Larry" would say. Just a
> > "coincidence?"
> > --
> > Mama
>
> No, not really, we are both S.African, had the same education and are
> about the same age, give or take 5 years. Why shouldn't we sound
> similar.
Aha. <penny drops>
I know a couple of south african chaps living over here, and they all have
one thing in common. They are ugly sods, mostly little men, and think they
are gods gift to women. Us English gals take the pee out of them and their
overbearing ways. I think they mostly are sexually frustrated because no
woman will bother with them, and they are secretely terrified of the
confidence we divorced women display and the utter lack of awe we show for
you neanderthal blokes.
What do you think of my theory Owly, Mama??
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"Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote in message
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.. Oh it's lovely being single and able to do exactly as I please
> > .(smiles happily)
>
> Well, Miss Smarty Pants, I am also now officially single and can do
exactly
> as I please. Look out world! :>)
Should we form a club do you think? If so, what should we call it?
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"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
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>
> On 11-Oct-2003, "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote:
>
> > Lawrence Lumley (Vox) has always been an ass. Google him sometime and
> > you'll see what I mean.
>
> I see you still insist that I am LL. I have met him and I wish I had
half
> his
> bird smarts. Any breeder who can visually sex his baby Greys BEFORE he
rings
> them at 10-11 days old and gets it right, deserves my respect.. It has
> something
> to do with how the pigment in the skin develops over the first 10 days.
(he
> rings
> the hens on the left leg and the cocks on the right). LL knows his birds
> backwards,
> I can assure you, he is anything but an ass.
> I notice you also have problems in maintaining happy conjugal
> relationships, but
> naturally not your fault at all. Hmmm??---Is there a pattern developing
> here???
>
> --------Oh well, **** happens.-----, but it sure explains a lot !!!
>
Odd how you seem to grasp at this detail. You did for me too. Almost as
though any woman smart enough to dump an abusive partner is a threat to your
manhood. I bet you are a woman hater, either that or an abuser too.Well
bumbrain, I am crap at picking men. More than 4 men in my life have wanted
to marry me. I was daft enough to believe them when they said they would
love me, cherish me and stay faithful. They didn't so I left. Dunno why this
bothers you but it seems to. Were you recently dumped?? Can't say I blame
her.
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"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
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>
> On 10-Oct-2003, "Debbie Krug" <dkrug@nospamtband.net> wrote:
>
> > > Vox.
> >
> > I have read some articles about lupin and its use in different farm
> > animals.
> > It sounds almost too good to be true. Would you happen to have heard of
> > its
> > use in feed for hair goats? I know S. Africa produces some outstanding
> > angora goats.
>
> They have been used as fodder for generations here but mostly in silage.
> I don't think the nutritional value has been fully appreciated before.
> Lupins have always been used as a rotational crop to replace nitrogen in
> the soil. The treated seed for planting is available on order but trying
to
> find
> untreated fodder seed is not that easy. Most farmers harvest for silage
> before the seed pods have ripened. Hopefully all that will change now
> and we will be able to buy lupins in the produce stores.
> Seed for planting sells at around US$ .50c a Kg (2.2 lbs). So in addition
> to it's nutritional value, it is inexpensive too.
>
But lupins are toxic.
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On 11-Oct-2003, "oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> More than 4 men in my life have wanted
> to marry me. I was daft enough to believe them when they said they would
> love me, cherish me and stay faithful. They didn't so I left. Dunno why
> this
> bothers you but it seems to. Were you recently dumped?? Can't say I blame
> her.
No, not dumped, I was married in 1964 and lost my wife in 1998. I am not
an abuser of anything other than the odd bit of verbal abuse in response
to the nonsense one has to endure on usenet. Threats to my manhood
are like water off a duck's back now. I have 3 grown sons who have families
of their own and who are all successful businessmen. There is nothing
more for me to prove. One wife was enough for me, I still enjoy the
company of women and could remarry tomorrow if I so desired. There are
plenty of willing widows and divorcees around.
Your unhappy relationships don't bother me in the least. I just made the
casual observation that you might have more reason than most to display
your seemingly abnormal dislike of the opposite sex, which you have taken
great pains to make known, to all and sundry and at every possible
opportunity.
You do have an unusually vivid imagination !!
Vox.
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On 11-Oct-2003, "oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Aha. <penny drops>
> I know a couple of south african chaps living over here, and they all
> have
> one thing in common. They are ugly sods, mostly little men, and think they
> are gods gift to women. Us English gals take the pee out of them and their
> overbearing ways. I think they mostly are sexually frustrated because no
> woman will bother with them, and they are secretely terrified of the
> confidence we divorced women display and the utter lack of awe we show for
> you neanderthal blokes.
I spent 2 years touring the UK and Europe, 1960/1961. I had a flat in Earls
Court which I used as a base. Strange how experiences differ, I found the
English girls to be pushovers, by far the easiest and with the lowest morals
in all of Europe.
Vox.
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"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> On 11-Oct-2003, "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote:
>
> > Oh, and
> > of course it was ALL MY FAULT... I DESERVED all the hitting, spitting
and
> > yelling. WHAT was I THINKING?!
>
> Yep, you were just sitting there and he came along and spat at you, then
> gave
> you a whack! I am sure you did nothing to provoke the poor " B".
> Your record regarding 'attitude' speaks volumes in this case and it aint
in
> your favour either.
Oh, so you're one of those people who believe the victim is at fault for
the abuse they have to endure. We women deserve what we get, right? That
speaks volumes about YOUR 'attitude.'
> > I can't think of a single *man* you've treated with
> > such disrespect.
>
> Since you are so good at ' googling', try looking up the spat I had with
> D.C.
I read it. Big deal. Who HASN'T had a spat with DC???!!!! Yours was a minor
altercation compared to most.
> > > --------Oh well, **** happens.-----, but it sure explains a lot !!!
> >
> > Exactly WHAT does it explain, stupid?
>
> If the cap fits----wear it.
> poor mama, I think all the stress is making you loose it !
Do you mean "lose" it? Oh well, what can I expect from someone who thinks
bulls have udders?
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On 11-Oct-2003, "oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> But lupins are toxic.
****--- you never stop trying, do you?
Blue and yellow lupins contain alkaloids which were thought to be toxic.
It was found that the so called ' lupin toxicosis' was in fact caused by
mycotoxins excreted by a mould fungus which grows on these varieties
when not properly stored.
The lupins we were all discussing are SWEET WHITE LUPINS.
Now take both feet out of your mouth, look at the web page I quoted,
READ it thoroughly then do a search on lupins and you will find all
that I have quoted above.
Vox.
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"Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
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>
> On 11-Oct-2003, "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote:
>
> > But just last June you said you'd never met "Larry." So in the last 3-4
> > months you've not only met him but know all about him?
>
>
> Yes, I met him in July or August when he gave an informal talk at
> a bird club meeting. A very nice person who does not put on airs.
> Very helpful and doesn't mind sharing his experience.
> he has an extremely sharp wit too.
Sure you did. No, really! I believe you. <snicker>
> I discussed RPB with him and he said I was wasting my time here
> and that the real meat was in the moderated lists, not on usenet.
If you admire "him" so much why ARE you wasting your time here instead of
taking "his" expert advice?
What lists did "he" recommend? Maybe some of here would like to join and
say Hi to ol' Larry....
> You've grabbed the bull by the udder with the posts you quoted. The
> fight I had with DC. was all about grit and took place some months
> before that.
In Jan. of this year, in fact. After reading that and a few other gems of
yours I realized you argue with virtually everybody... but still, you do
have a tendency to treat women like **** more than men.
BTW - Bulls don't have udders.
> Do some more googling but don't forget to take your depression meds
> first this time.
And here's a perfect example of that tendency. What's next? Gonna call me
"Fat Mama?"
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Actually Doug is good people, some folks are not able to understand his lack
of tolorance for stupid people but hey I understand that.
Bob Wheeler
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Check out our web site,
A few new features and new pictures.
http://www.onemorebird.com/
"Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote in message
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> "Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
> news:w4ednVPRoYML2BWiU-KYiA@is.co.za...
> >
> >
> > On 11-Oct-2003, "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, and
> > > of course it was ALL MY FAULT... I DESERVED all the hitting, spitting
> and
> > > yelling. WHAT was I THINKING?!
> >
> > Yep, you were just sitting there and he came along and spat at you, then
> > gave
> > you a whack! I am sure you did nothing to provoke the poor " B".
> > Your record regarding 'attitude' speaks volumes in this case and it aint
> in
> > your favour either.
>
> Oh, so you're one of those people who believe the victim is at fault for
> the abuse they have to endure. We women deserve what we get, right? That
> speaks volumes about YOUR 'attitude.'
>
> > > I can't think of a single *man* you've treated with
> > > such disrespect.
> >
> > Since you are so good at ' googling', try looking up the spat I had with
> > D.C.
>
> I read it. Big deal. Who HASN'T had a spat with DC???!!!! Yours was a
minor
> altercation compared to most.
>
> > > > --------Oh well, **** happens.-----, but it sure explains a lot !!!
> > >
> > > Exactly WHAT does it explain, stupid?
> >
> > If the cap fits----wear it.
> > poor mama, I think all the stress is making you loose it !
>
> Do you mean "lose" it? Oh well, what can I expect from someone who thinks
> bulls have udders?
>
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We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, my friend. Doug's intolerance
is mainly directed towards "wimmin folk." I've been the recipient of his
unjustified tirades on many occasions so I must be one of those stupid
people.
I have no respect for the man. I'll just leave it at that.
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"Wheeler" <rivercst@pacifier.com> wrote in message
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> Actually Doug is good people, some folks are not able to understand his
lack
> of tolorance for stupid people but hey I understand that.
>
> Bob Wheeler
>
> --
> Check out our web site,
> A few new features and new pictures.
> http://www.onemorebird.com/
>
>
> "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote in message
> news:FF%hb.6969$av5.6757@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > "Vox" <vox@dontryafrica.com> wrote in message
> > news:w4ednVPRoYML2BWiU-KYiA@is.co.za...
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11-Oct-2003, "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Oh, and
> > > > of course it was ALL MY FAULT... I DESERVED all the hitting,
spitting
> > and
> > > > yelling. WHAT was I THINKING?!
> > >
> > > Yep, you were just sitting there and he came along and spat at you,
then
> > > gave
> > > you a whack! I am sure you did nothing to provoke the poor " B".
> > > Your record regarding 'attitude' speaks volumes in this case and it
aint
> > in
> > > your favour either.
> >
> > Oh, so you're one of those people who believe the victim is at fault
for
> > the abuse they have to endure. We women deserve what we get, right?
That
> > speaks volumes about YOUR 'attitude.'
> >
> > > > I can't think of a single *man* you've treated with
> > > > such disrespect.
> > >
> > > Since you are so good at ' googling', try looking up the spat I had
with
> > > D.C.
> >
> > I read it. Big deal. Who HASN'T had a spat with DC???!!!! Yours was a
> minor
> > altercation compared to most.
> >
> > > > > --------Oh well, **** happens.-----, but it sure explains a lot
!!!
> > > >
> > > > Exactly WHAT does it explain, stupid?
> > >
> > > If the cap fits----wear it.
> > > poor mama, I think all the stress is making you loose it !
> >
> > Do you mean "lose" it? Oh well, what can I expect from someone who
thinks
> > bulls have udders?
> >
>
>
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"oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote in message
> news:kkJhb.5547$av5.5500@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> . Oh it's lovely being single and able to do exactly as I please
> > > .(smiles happily)
> >
> > Well, Miss Smarty Pants, I am also now officially single and can do
> exactly
> > as I please. Look out world! :>)
>
> Should we form a club do you think? If so, what should we call it?
How about the "Hot Menopause Mamas"? Can I join too?
Laurie
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"Wheeler" <rivercst@pacifier.com> wrote in message
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> Actually Doug is good people, some folks are not able to understand his
lack
> of tolorance for stupid people but hey I understand that.
>
> Bob Wheeler
Actually, Doug is a women-hating, arrogant, sarcastic, hate-everyone
dickhead who has no tolerance for anyone with a differing opinion, but hey,
that's just my opinion
Laurie
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"Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hehehe, see I am going crazy!! it's probably the worry over Poppet!!
> You're welcome Mama, I did just post something else asking You and Herman
to
> quit the arguing!! I know I've got a cheek!! ;-)
I realize you're new here, Ian, so you're not used to the bickering that's
inevitable when this many people, with differing opinions, "discuss" bird
issues. Don't take it to heart... it's quite normal in all news groups.
Actually, this one is mild compared to some!
Anyway, I've already said I'm finished with the "discussion" Herman and I
were having. I can't make my point any more clearly than I already have.
> I did post somewhere that
> Poppet is a bit out-of-sorts this evening, She's probably pretty confused
as
> to what's happened to her over the past 6 days, that's the problem you
can
> explain it to a child, but I'm pretty sure she knows that she is LOVED
> soooooo much, she's pretty unsteady still sometimes, but that's likely to
be
> the fluid pressure on her brain which will take some time to reduce back
to
> normal.
> Ian ^0^
Well, considering how sick the little thing has been it's not surprising
that it's taking awhile for her to get back to normal. And aside from the
illness, the stress from vet visits and treatments must take a heavy toll
as well.
It's a miracle she pulled through at all... she must be a fighter! (and
VERY lucky to have a family who obviously loves her very much! and yes, I
believe she KNOWS she's loved.)
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"Laurie" <mymungedaddy@savedmefromswen.com> wrote in message
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>
> "oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote in message
> > news:kkJhb.5547$av5.5500@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > . Oh it's lovely being single and able to do exactly as I please
> > > > .(smiles happily)
> > >
> > > Well, Miss Smarty Pants, I am also now officially single and can do
> > exactly
> > > as I please. Look out world! :>)
> >
> > Should we form a club do you think? If so, what should we call it?
>
> How about the "Hot Menopause Mamas"? Can I join too?
>
> Laurie
Of course you can! In fact, I hereby nominate you as Prez. :>)
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And from the sounds of this post and several others I could ASS-U-ME you are
a man hating, snotty, anti-social female who wears comfortable shoes. But
hey when you do not have all the facts you can assume anything.
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