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| Sean |
Just a quick question, are there any humming birds native to the uk? I have
two pics I took this afternoon (21/08/2003) that I took in my back
garden. I am sure it was a humming bird, if any one could let me know what
it is I would be grateful. if you want the pics just ask and i will mail
them to you, for some reason i cant upload them on this server.
Thanks
Sean
To save any delay I have uploaded the photos to my web page, I have not
reduced the size of the photos so they may take a while to download, the
link is http://www.seanswebsite.pwp.blueyon...hummingbird.htm I am
genuinely interested in this so please could someone let me know what it was
please?
Many thanks
Sean
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| oldmolly |
"Sean" <seanmcintyre@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> Just a quick question, are there any humming birds native to the uk? I
have
> two pics I took this afternoon (21/08/2003) that I took in my back
> garden. I am sure it was a humming bird, if any one could let me know what
> it is I would be grateful. if you want the pics just ask and i will mail
> them to you, for some reason i cant upload them on this server.
> Thanks
> Sean
>
> To save any delay I have uploaded the photos to my web page, I have not
> reduced the size of the photos so they may take a while to download, the
> link is http://www.seanswebsite.pwp.blueyon...hummingbird.htm I am
> genuinely interested in this so please could someone let me know what it
was
> please?
> Many thanks
> Sean
That looks like a humming bird to me. HAve you contacted your local RSPB or
birdwatching group to see if they know if they are regular visitors? It
wouldn't really surprise me as Cornwall is a whole lot warmer than the rest
of the UK. Palm trees grow there too.Something to do with the gulf stream I
believe.
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| ^^ Bex ^^ |
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:38:13 +0100, "oldmolly" <oldmolly@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
>> To save any delay I have uploaded the photos to my web page, I have not
>> reduced the size of the photos so they may take a while to download, the
>> link is http://www.seanswebsite.pwp.blueyon...hummingbird.htm I am
>> genuinely interested in this so please could someone let me know what it
>was
>> please?
>> Many thanks
>> Sean
> That looks like a humming bird to me. HAve you contacted your local RSPB or
>birdwatching group to see if they know if they are regular visitors? It
>wouldn't really surprise me as Cornwall is a whole lot warmer than the rest
>of the UK. Palm trees grow there too.Something to do with the gulf stream I
>believe.
Wow! Never seen one in this country, only in France and warmer climes.
Isn't it sweet!
Bex
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| Mamabird |
Laurie asked me to tell you: that's a Sphinx moth, not a hummingbird your
seeing. She gets them in her garden too.
I can vouch for that because I get them here too. The first time I saw one
I would have sworn it was a hummer (I do have a few Ruby Throated hummers
at my feeders every summer.)
A lot of people get fooled by those sneaky moths. :>)
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"Sean" <seanmcintyre@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> Just a quick question, are there any humming birds native to the uk? I
have
> two pics I took this afternoon (21/08/2003) that I took in my back
> garden. I am sure it was a humming bird, if any one could let me know
what
> it is I would be grateful. if you want the pics just ask and i will mail
> them to you, for some reason i cant upload them on this server.
> Thanks
> Sean
>
> To save any delay I have uploaded the photos to my web page, I have not
> reduced the size of the photos so they may take a while to download, the
> link is http://www.seanswebsite.pwp.blueyon...hummingbird.htm I am
> genuinely interested in this so please could someone let me know what it
was
> please?
> Many thanks
> Sean
>
>
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| ^^ Bex ^^ |
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 23:03:39 GMT, "Mamabird" <iluvbirdz@.directlink.com.>
wrote:
>Laurie asked me to tell you: that's a Sphinx moth, not a hummingbird your
>seeing. She gets them in her garden too.
>
>I can vouch for that because I get them here too. The first time I saw one
>I would have sworn it was a hummer (I do have a few Ruby Throated hummers
>at my feeders every summer.)
>
>A lot of people get fooled by those sneaky moths. :>)
Oh yes, it has antennae. We don't get those in the Midlands. We get nice
bats this time of year though :)
Bex
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| NaDeana |
Yup, Sphinx moth...
aka: Hummingbird moth!
Cool hey??
"Sean" <seanmcintyre@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> Just a quick question, are there any humming birds native to the uk? I
have
> two pics I took this afternoon (21/08/2003) that I took in my back
> garden. I am sure it was a humming bird, if any one could let me know what
> it is I would be grateful. if you want the pics just ask and i will mail
> them to you, for some reason i cant upload them on this server.
> Thanks
> Sean
>
> To save any delay I have uploaded the photos to my web page, I have not
> reduced the size of the photos so they may take a while to download, the
> link is http://www.seanswebsite.pwp.blueyon...hummingbird.htm I am
> genuinely interested in this so please could someone let me know what it
was
> please?
> Many thanks
> Sean
>
>
>
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| Mamabird |
Laurie sent this link (she's at work and can't post).
http://www.pbase.com/image/971831 Sphynx moth.
"Sean" <seanmcintyre@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> Just a quick question, are there any humming birds native to the uk? I
have
> two pics I took this afternoon (21/08/2003) that I took in my back
> garden. I am sure it was a humming bird, if any one could let me know
what
> it is I would be grateful. if you want the pics just ask and i will mail
> them to you, for some reason i cant upload them on this server.
> Thanks
> Sean
>
> To save any delay I have uploaded the photos to my web page, I have not
> reduced the size of the photos so they may take a while to download, the
> link is http://www.seanswebsite.pwp.blueyon...hummingbird.htm I am
> genuinely interested in this so please could someone let me know what it
was
> please?
> Many thanks
> Sean
>
>
>
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| geopelia |
"Mamabird" <iluvbirdz@.directlink.com.> wrote in message
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> Laurie sent this link (she's at work and can't post).
>
> http://www.pbase.com/image/971831 Sphynx moth.
>
> "Sean" <seanmcintyre@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:Dga1b.51$ln6.37@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >
> >
> > Just a quick question, are there any humming birds native to the uk? I
> have
> > two pics I took this afternoon (21/08/2003) that I took in my back
> > garden. I am sure it was a humming bird, if any one could let me know
> what
> > it is I would be grateful. if you want the pics just ask and i will mail
> > them to you, for some reason i cant upload them on this server.
> > Thanks
> > Sean
> >
> > To save any delay I have uploaded the photos to my web page, I have not
> > reduced the size of the photos so they may take a while to download, the
> > link is http://www.seanswebsite.pwp.blueyon...hummingbird.htm I
am
> > genuinely interested in this so please could someone let me know what it
> was
> > please?
> > Many thanks
> > Sean
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> What looks like a beak is its long proboscis.(drinking tube)
Hummingbirds could not survive in Britain's climate. They must feed
continually as they have such high metabolism. At night they have to
"hibernate", going into a torpid state, the only way their food reserves can
last till morning.
In Britain, even if they could stand the colder climate, they would die in
the long nights.
Even the smaller finches (waxbills etc) have to have artificial light
provided in winter to give them a longer "day", so that they can feed. If
they have empty crops before roosting they will probably die overnight.
Moths, being insects, do not have this problem. Most of their feeding is
done as a caterpillar, the main part of their lives, and they do not "eat"
as adults, simply drinking nectar for energy while they mate and lay their
eggs.
Geopelia
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| LindyJ2936 |
>Hummingbirds could not survive in Britain's climate. They must feed
>continually as they have such high metabolism. >>
Hmmm, not an expert on British climate but I believe its milder than where I
live...northern New England, USA. The summers are short & the long winters
bring temps in the teens (F) & many feet of snow. I have a hummingbird feeder
thats always humming though, spring to fall. I wonder what they do through the
winter?
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| geopelia |
"Toucanldy" <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: lindyj2936@aol.com (LindyJ2936)
> I believe its milder than where I
> >live...northern New England, USA. The summers are short & the long
winters
> >bring temps in the teens (F) & many feet of snow. I have a hummingbird
feeder
> >thats always humming though, spring to fall. I wonder what they do
through
> >the
> >winter?
> >
>
> http://www.hummingbirds.net/
> http://portalproductions.com/h/migrate.htm
>
> Regards
They would migrate or die. The second website you give shows where the
various species go in North America.
From Cornwall, they would need to migrate to Africa. The English Channel is
probably too wide to cross from Cornwall to France for these tiny birds,
though they might be able to cross at Dover.
England has very unpredictable weather with sudden changes and cold spells.
Being able to find food on stormy wet days could be a real problem, as they
must feed almost continually.
The little zosterops (white eye) crossed the Tasman Sea from Australia to
New Zealand, probably blown over in a storm, and is now widespread in New
Zealand and considered a native bird. It is not much bigger than the larger
hummingbirds. An amazing survival story!
Geopelia
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| Mark Klebanoff |
I don't know about that. Ruby throated hummingbirds allegedly fly
solo and nonstop about 550 miles (nearly 1000 km for those outside the
US) across the Caribbean in their winter migration from the Eastern US
to Central America. The Channel would be a short hop for them.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:22:20 UTC, "geopelia" <phildoran@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:
>
>
> From Cornwall, they would need to migrate to Africa. The English Channel is
> probably too wide to cross from Cornwall to France for these tiny birds,
> though they might be able to cross at Dover.
> England has very unpredictable weather with sudden changes and cold spells.
> Being able to find food on stormy wet days could be a real problem, as they
> must feed almost continually.
>
> The little zosterops (white eye) crossed the Tasman Sea from Australia to
> New Zealand, probably blown over in a storm, and is now widespread in New
> Zealand and considered a native bird. It is not much bigger than the larger
> hummingbirds. An amazing survival story!
> Geopelia
>
>
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| geopelia |
"Mark Klebanoff" <maxikins@spamless.os2bbs.com> wrote in message
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> I don't know about that. Ruby throated hummingbirds allegedly fly
> solo and nonstop about 550 miles (nearly 1000 km for those outside the
> US) across the Caribbean in their winter migration from the Eastern US
> to Central America. The Channel would be a short hop for them.
Hummingbirds are not found in Europe, Africa or Asia, only in the Western
Hemisphere.
Any seen in Britain are either escaped birds which would quickly die, or
would be moths!
Geopelia
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| oldmolly |
"Sean" <seanmcintyre@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> Just a quick question, are there any humming birds native to the uk? I
have
> two pics I took this afternoon (21/08/2003) that I took in my back
> garden. I am sure it was a humming bird, if any one could let me know what
> it is I would be grateful. if you want the pics just ask and i will mail
> them to you, for some reason i cant upload them on this server.
> Thanks
> Sean
>
> To save any delay I have uploaded the photos to my web page, I have not
> reduced the size of the photos so they may take a while to download, the
> link is http://www.seanswebsite.pwp.blueyon...hummingbird.htm I am
> genuinely interested in this so please could someone let me know what it
was
> please?
> Many thanks
> Sean
That looks like a humming bird to me. HAve you contacted your local RSPB or
birdwatching group to see if they know if they are regular visitors? It
wouldn't really surprise me as Cornwall is a whole lot warmer than the rest
of the UK. Palm trees grow there too.Something to do with the gulf stream I
believe.
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| ^^ Bex ^^ |
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:38:13 +0100, "oldmolly" <oldmolly@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
>> To save any delay I have uploaded the photos to my web page, I have not
>> reduced the size of the photos so they may take a while to download, the
>> link is http://www.seanswebsite.pwp.blueyon...hummingbird.htm I am
>> genuinely interested in this so please could someone let me know what it
>was
>> please?
>> Many thanks
>> Sean
> That looks like a humming bird to me. HAve you contacted your local RSPB or
>birdwatching group to see if they know if they are regular visitors? It
>wouldn't really surprise me as Cornwall is a whole lot warmer than the rest
>of the UK. Palm trees grow there too.Something to do with the gulf stream I
>believe.
Wow! Never seen one in this country, only in France and warmer climes.
Isn't it sweet!
Bex
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| Mamabird |
Laurie asked me to tell you: that's a Sphinx moth, not a hummingbird your
seeing. She gets them in her garden too.
I can vouch for that because I get them here too. The first time I saw one
I would have sworn it was a hummer (I do have a few Ruby Throated hummers
at my feeders every summer.)
A lot of people get fooled by those sneaky moths. :>)
--
Mama
~^~^~^~ Visit Mamabird's Nest: <http://iluvbirds.tripod.com/> And My
Photo Albums at: <http://photos.yahoo.com/iluvbirdz>
"A bird's life is so frail, so threatened, that each is a miracle - each
new hatching an astonishment." Helen Thomson
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
"Sean" <seanmcintyre@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> Just a quick question, are there any humming birds native to the uk? I
have
> two pics I took this afternoon (21/08/2003) that I took in my back
> garden. I am sure it was a humming bird, if any one could let me know
what
> it is I would be grateful. if you want the pics just ask and i will mail
> them to you, for some reason i cant upload them on this server.
> Thanks
> Sean
>
> To save any delay I have uploaded the photos to my web page, I have not
> reduced the size of the photos so they may take a while to download, the
> link is http://www.seanswebsite.pwp.blueyon...hummingbird.htm I am
> genuinely interested in this so please could someone let me know what it
was
> please?
> Many thanks
> Sean
>
>
>
>
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| ^^ Bex ^^ |
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 23:03:39 GMT, "Mamabird" <iluvbirdz@.directlink.com.>
wrote:
>Laurie asked me to tell you: that's a Sphinx moth, not a hummingbird your
>seeing. She gets them in her garden too.
>
>I can vouch for that because I get them here too. The first time I saw one
>I would have sworn it was a hummer (I do have a few Ruby Throated hummers
>at my feeders every summer.)
>
>A lot of people get fooled by those sneaky moths. :>)
Oh yes, it has antennae. We don't get those in the Midlands. We get nice
bats this time of year though :)
Bex
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| NaDeana |
Yup, Sphinx moth...
aka: Hummingbird moth!
Cool hey??
"Sean" <seanmcintyre@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Dga1b.51$ln6.37@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
>
> Just a quick question, are there any humming birds native to the uk? I
have
> two pics I took this afternoon (21/08/2003) that I took in my back
> garden. I am sure it was a humming bird, if any one could let me know what
> it is I would be grateful. if you want the pics just ask and i will mail
> them to you, for some reason i cant upload them on this server.
> Thanks
> Sean
>
> To save any delay I have uploaded the photos to my web page, I have not
> reduced the size of the photos so they may take a while to download, the
> link is http://www.seanswebsite.pwp.blueyon...hummingbird.htm I am
> genuinely interested in this so please could someone let me know what it
was
> please?
> Many thanks
> Sean
>
>
>
>
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| geopelia |
"Mamabird" <iluvbirdz@.directlink.com.> wrote in message
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> Laurie sent this link (she's at work and can't post).
>
> http://www.pbase.com/image/971831 Sphynx moth.
>
> "Sean" <seanmcintyre@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:Dga1b.51$ln6.37@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >
> >
> > Just a quick question, are there any humming birds native to the uk? I
> have
> > two pics I took this afternoon (21/08/2003) that I took in my back
> > garden. I am sure it was a humming bird, if any one could let me know
> what
> > it is I would be grateful. if you want the pics just ask and i will mail
> > them to you, for some reason i cant upload them on this server.
> > Thanks
> > Sean
> >
> > To save any delay I have uploaded the photos to my web page, I have not
> > reduced the size of the photos so they may take a while to download, the
> > link is http://www.seanswebsite.pwp.blueyon...hummingbird.htm I
am
> > genuinely interested in this so please could someone let me know what it
> was
> > please?
> > Many thanks
> > Sean
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > certified to have no virus thingys attached
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.510 / Virus Database: 307 - Release Date: 14/08/2003
> >
> >
> What looks like a beak is its long proboscis.(drinking tube)
Hummingbirds could not survive in Britain's climate. They must feed
continually as they have such high metabolism. At night they have to
"hibernate", going into a torpid state, the only way their food reserves can
last till morning.
In Britain, even if they could stand the colder climate, they would die in
the long nights.
Even the smaller finches (waxbills etc) have to have artificial light
provided in winter to give them a longer "day", so that they can feed. If
they have empty crops before roosting they will probably die overnight.
Moths, being insects, do not have this problem. Most of their feeding is
done as a caterpillar, the main part of their lives, and they do not "eat"
as adults, simply drinking nectar for energy while they mate and lay their
eggs.
Geopelia
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| geopelia |
"Toucanldy" <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: lindyj2936@aol.com (LindyJ2936)
> I believe its milder than where I
> >live...northern New England, USA. The summers are short & the long
winters
> >bring temps in the teens (F) & many feet of snow. I have a hummingbird
feeder
> >thats always humming though, spring to fall. I wonder what they do
through
> >the
> >winter?
> >
>
> http://www.hummingbirds.net/
> http://portalproductions.com/h/migrate.htm
>
> Regards
They would migrate or die. The second website you give shows where the
various species go in North America.
From Cornwall, they would need to migrate to Africa. The English Channel is
probably too wide to cross from Cornwall to France for these tiny birds,
though they might be able to cross at Dover.
England has very unpredictable weather with sudden changes and cold spells.
Being able to find food on stormy wet days could be a real problem, as they
must feed almost continually.
The little zosterops (white eye) crossed the Tasman Sea from Australia to
New Zealand, probably blown over in a storm, and is now widespread in New
Zealand and considered a native bird. It is not much bigger than the larger
hummingbirds. An amazing survival story!
Geopelia
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| Mark Klebanoff |
I don't know about that. Ruby throated hummingbirds allegedly fly
solo and nonstop about 550 miles (nearly 1000 km for those outside the
US) across the Caribbean in their winter migration from the Eastern US
to Central America. The Channel would be a short hop for them.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:22:20 UTC, "geopelia" <phildoran@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:
>
>
> From Cornwall, they would need to migrate to Africa. The English Channel is
> probably too wide to cross from Cornwall to France for these tiny birds,
> though they might be able to cross at Dover.
> England has very unpredictable weather with sudden changes and cold spells.
> Being able to find food on stormy wet days could be a real problem, as they
> must feed almost continually.
>
> The little zosterops (white eye) crossed the Tasman Sea from Australia to
> New Zealand, probably blown over in a storm, and is now widespread in New
> Zealand and considered a native bird. It is not much bigger than the larger
> hummingbirds. An amazing survival story!
> Geopelia
>
>
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| geopelia |
"Mark Klebanoff" <maxikins@spamless.os2bbs.com> wrote in message
news:nze6zYQT7gHB-pn2-b4YZMe7VPn58@localhost...
> I don't know about that. Ruby throated hummingbirds allegedly fly
> solo and nonstop about 550 miles (nearly 1000 km for those outside the
> US) across the Caribbean in their winter migration from the Eastern US
> to Central America. The Channel would be a short hop for them.
Hummingbirds are not found in Europe, Africa or Asia, only in the Western
Hemisphere.
Any seen in Britain are either escaped birds which would quickly die, or
would be moths!
Geopelia
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