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| Mike Marchand |
I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't make
up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie when I
was much younger, but that was many years ago.
So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out looking
at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering a
number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
excellent pets also.
Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are not
super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the sides).
I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a bird
with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not too
much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that the
maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of that,
and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I listed?
Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
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| Morgans |
"Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
make
> up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird
Cockatiels are great for the first time serious bird owner. Not too loud,
plenty of personality, and the males are fair talkers. They are not quite
as dependent on their masters, if you have a pair.
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---Jim in NC---
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| Shannon |
Hi Mike!
My quaker was my first "serious" bird. He's a male and quite a talker...
Not too loud, but I've known other quakers to be really loud. I also have a
male cockatiel who has a wonderful whistle and small vocabulary. My mom is
a breeder, and I got both of them through her. She told me that Quakers are
the least expensive "talking" bird... at about $130 from a breeder. This
has been my experience... best of luck to you!
Shannon
"Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
> I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
make
> up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie when
I
> was much younger, but that was many years ago.
>
> So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
> meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out
looking
> at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering a
> number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
> excellent pets also.
>
> Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are not
> super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the
sides).
> I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a bird
> with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not
too
> much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that the
> maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
> while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of that,
> and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
>
> Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I
listed?
> Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
>
>
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| Marco & Chuck |
"Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
> I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
make
> up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie when
I
> was much younger, but that was many years ago.
>
> So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
> meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out
looking
> at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering a
> number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
> excellent pets also.
>
> Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are not
> super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the
sides).
> I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a bird
> with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not
too
> much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that the
> maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
> while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of that,
> and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
>
> Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I
listed?
> Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
>
Cockatiels make great pets, not too loud, males might learn to talk, very
social birds.
Lovebirds are little bundles of non stop energy, cool birds, might get too
noisy with their non stop chattering. A handfed, well socialized young bird
would be your best shot.
Quakers are the noisiest of all the birds you mentioned. Maroon bellies or
green cheeks (very similar physically and in temperament) are _usually_
pretty quiet birds. But as with any other conure, they have the potential to
be little noise machines.
But they are great birdies to have around... loyal, playful and a bit
headstrong. I really like my meyers, he's a cool birdie, great mimic, funny,
friendly, not too loud. Sometimes prone to 'spastic' attacks. :)
Of course, evey bird is an individual, but make sure you get a handfed, well
socialized young bird. Make sure you are able to handle/play with the bird
before bringing it home. Meet as many birds as you possibly can... you'll
know which is that special one that's waiting for you to take him/her home.
--
Marco
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| Rick |
"Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
> I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't make
> up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie when I
> was much younger, but that was many years ago.
>
> So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
> meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out looking
> at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering a
> number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
> excellent pets also.
>
> Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are not
> super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the sides).
> I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a bird
> with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not too
> much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that the
> maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
> while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of that,
> and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
>
> Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I listed?
> Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
Also check out green-cheek conures. We have a female and she's
an absolute joy... Smart as a whip, not too noisy and by far the most
affectionate pet we've ever owned.
Rick
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| oldmolly |
"Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
> I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
make
> up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie when
I
> was much younger, but that was many years ago.
>
> So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
> meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out
looking
> at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering a
> number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
> excellent pets also.
>
> Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are not
> super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the
sides).
> I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a bird
> with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not
too
> much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that the
> maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
> while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of that,
> and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
>
> Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I
listed?
> Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
>
>
All good choices, but if you don't want loud, don't get a quaker. I adore
them and have 5 of them but as much as I love them, I have to admit that
they are loud.
Meyers are sweet and can learn to talk, but as with all poicephalus's, they
tend to nippy as they hit adolescence <sp>.
Some more choices for you to consider are black headed caiques,
lineolated,celestial parrotlets, pionus.
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| oldmolly |
"Marco & Chuck" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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But as with any other conure, they have the potential to
> be little noise machines.
I must dispute that. The 'aratinga' conures are noise machines. The pyrhura
conures in the main are relatively quiet.
.. I really like my meyers, he's a cool birdie, great mimic, funny,
> friendly, not too loud. Sometimes prone to 'spastic' attacks. :)
I like mine too. They say "beep beep".
> Of course, evey bird is an individual, but make sure you get a handfed,
well
> socialized young bird. Make sure you are able to handle/play with the bird
> before bringing it home. Meet as many birds as you possibly can... you'll
> know which is that special one that's waiting for you to take him/her
home.
Excellent advice Maaaarrrco.
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| Marco & Chuck |
"oldmolly" <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> "Marco & Chuck" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:BuVXa.17201$Vx2.8799449@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...
> But as with any other conure, they have the potential to
> > be little noise machines.
> I must dispute that. The 'aratinga' conures are noise machines. The
pyrhura
> conures in the main are relatively quiet.
Reread... they have the 'potential' to be 'little' noise machines. :) Our
GCC used to go off like crazy every time he'd see a stranger walk past our
front window. He was the watchdog. :)
>
>
> . I really like my meyers, he's a cool birdie, great mimic, funny,
> > friendly, not too loud. Sometimes prone to 'spastic' attacks. :)
> I like mine too. They say "beep beep".
>
> > Of course, evey bird is an individual, but make sure you get a handfed,
> well
> > socialized young bird. Make sure you are able to handle/play with the
bird
> > before bringing it home. Meet as many birds as you possibly can...
you'll
> > know which is that special one that's waiting for you to take him/her
> home.
> Excellent advice Maaaarrrco.
I'm not even being called by name anymore, now it's "you".... as in 'C'mere
you!' or 'gime you!'. *sobs*
--
Marco
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You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted,
then used against you.
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| Mike Marchand |
"oldmolly" <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:bgpabb$qqugt$1@ID-165698.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> "Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
> > I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
> make
> > up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie
when
> I
> > was much younger, but that was many years ago.
> >
> > So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
> > meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out
> looking
> > at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering
a
> > number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
> > excellent pets also.
> >
> > Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are
not
> > super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the
> sides).
> > I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a
bird
> > with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not
> too
> > much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that
the
> > maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
> > while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of
that,
> > and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
> >
> > Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I
> listed?
> > Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
> >
> >
> All good choices, but if you don't want loud, don't get a quaker. I
adore
> them and have 5 of them but as much as I love them, I have to admit that
> they are loud.
> Meyers are sweet and can learn to talk, but as with all poicephalus's,
they
> tend to nippy as they hit adolescence <sp>.
> Some more choices for you to consider are black headed caiques,
> lineolated,celestial parrotlets, pionus.
>
>
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Out of curiousity, what is the usual price range for meyers? The one I
looked at was $1000 (Canadian dollars).
Thanks
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| Vicki Robinson |
In a previous article, "Marco & Chuck" <chazmar@birdpoop.net> said:
>Reread... they have the 'potential' to be 'little' noise machines. :) Our
>GCC used to go off like crazy every time he'd see a stranger walk past our
>front window. He was the watchdog. :)
I have to agree. Our Bijou, a GCC, is usually very quiet, even when
he's talking to himself.
(" iloveyouiloveyougimmeekissdontbitedontbiteowilovey
ou)in his little
gravel voice.) But he is also our watch bird and will scream his
little gray head off when someone has the sheer audacity to *WALK PAST
OUR HOUSE*!!!! The NERVE!
He's certainly no match for, say, a Sun on most days, but he can make
quite a ruckus when he wants too.
Our 7 'tiels can also be quite noisy, but their noise is much easier
to take, for me, anyway.
Vicki
--
"Washingtonians, however, always drive like old people with trunks
full of babies, and the roads lined with Golden Retreiver puppies."
Rick Tyler muses on the demographics of driving on AFU
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| Mike Marchand |
I think a Quaker will be ruled out if they are the noisiest.... I wouldn't
mind if I had a house, but while I'm stuck in my condo I have to be careful.
How would you compare the personality of a cockatiel and a maroon-bellied
conure? As far as personality & price is concerned.... do you get twice the
bird in a conure (seeing as they are twice the price... here anyways!! )
Thanks!
"Marco & Chuck" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
> > I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
> make
> > up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie
when
> I
> > was much younger, but that was many years ago.
> >
> > So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
> > meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out
> looking
> > at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering
a
> > number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
> > excellent pets also.
> >
> > Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are
not
> > super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the
> sides).
> > I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a
bird
> > with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not
> too
> > much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that
the
> > maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
> > while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of
that,
> > and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
> >
> > Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I
> listed?
> > Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
> >
>
> Cockatiels make great pets, not too loud, males might learn to talk, very
> social birds.
> Lovebirds are little bundles of non stop energy, cool birds, might get too
> noisy with their non stop chattering. A handfed, well socialized young
bird
> would be your best shot.
> Quakers are the noisiest of all the birds you mentioned. Maroon bellies or
> green cheeks (very similar physically and in temperament) are _usually_
> pretty quiet birds. But as with any other conure, they have the potential
to
> be little noise machines.
> But they are great birdies to have around... loyal, playful and a bit
> headstrong. I really like my meyers, he's a cool birdie, great mimic,
funny,
> friendly, not too loud. Sometimes prone to 'spastic' attacks. :)
> Of course, evey bird is an individual, but make sure you get a handfed,
well
> socialized young bird. Make sure you are able to handle/play with the bird
> before bringing it home. Meet as many birds as you possibly can... you'll
> know which is that special one that's waiting for you to take him/her
home.
> --
> Marco
> -*-*-*-*
> You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted,
> then used against you.
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| Joanne |
"Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kuWXa.39489$tQ2.1134551@news1.telusplanet.net...
> I think a Quaker will be ruled out if they are the noisiest.... I wouldn't
> mind if I had a house, but while I'm stuck in my condo I have to be
careful.
>
> How would you compare the personality of a cockatiel and a maroon-bellied
> conure? As far as personality & price is concerned.... do you get twice
the
> bird in a conure (seeing as they are twice the price... here anyways!! )
>
> Thanks!
Each brings its various attributes. In my opinion:
MB - smart, quiet, smaller, greener, longer life-span, great eaters
Cockatiel - some are good talkers, interesting colors and charming crest
Each brings its various non-attributes. In my opinion:
MB - can get into more trouble faster due to curiosity and intelligence
Cockatiel - "blonde", never had one that would eat carrots
They are both pretty willing to be loved and kissed as much as I like.
Keep in mind that each bird is an individual and generalities are not always
a fair portrayal of any one bird. Most people have at least one bird which
is the exception to the generalities.
Shop for a healthy bird from a clean facility with a good reputation. Not
all hand-fed babies are equal. Mass fed by hand is not the same as
hand-fed, nurtured and socialized to be a pet. Take your time before making
your decision on the one for you.
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Sincerely,
Joanne
If it's right for you, then it's right, . . . . . for you!!!
Play - http://www.jobird.com
Pay for Play - http://www.jobird.com/refund.htm
Looking for Love? - http://www.jobird.com/hearts.htm
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| oldmolly |
"Marco & Chuck" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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>
> "oldmolly" <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:bgpahi$qa6i9$1@ID-165698.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > "Marco & Chuck" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> > news:BuVXa.17201$Vx2.8799449@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...
> > But as with any other conure, they have the potential to
> > > be little noise machines.
> > I must dispute that. The 'aratinga' conures are noise machines. The
> pyrhura
> > conures in the main are relatively quiet.
>
> Reread... they have the 'potential' to be 'little' noise machines. :) Our
> GCC used to go off like crazy every time he'd see a stranger walk past our
> front window. He was the watchdog. :)
>
> >
> >
> > . I really like my meyers, he's a cool birdie, great mimic, funny,
> > > friendly, not too loud. Sometimes prone to 'spastic' attacks. :)
> > I like mine too. They say "beep beep".
> >
> > > Of course, evey bird is an individual, but make sure you get a
handfed,
> > well
> > > socialized young bird. Make sure you are able to handle/play with the
> bird
> > > before bringing it home. Meet as many birds as you possibly can...
> you'll
> > > know which is that special one that's waiting for you to take him/her
> > home.
> > Excellent advice Maaaarrrco.
>
> I'm not even being called by name anymore, now it's "you".... as in
'C'mere
> you!' or 'gime you!'. *sobs*
>
Hehe. And you love it ;0)
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| Loren Coe |
In article <kuWXa.39489$tQ2.1134551@news1.telusplanet.net>, Mike Marchand wrote:
> I think a Quaker will be ruled out if they are the noisiest.... I wouldn't
> mind if I had a house, but while I'm stuck in my condo I have to be careful.
>
> How would you compare the personality of a cockatiel and a maroon-bellied
> conure? As far as personality & price is concerned.... do you get twice the
> bird in a conure (seeing as they are twice the price... here anyways!! )
here in the DFW area, a Quaker is the least expenive conure and sell
for 2x the price of a cockatiel so i suspecet you either typod or need
to find another pet store. just mho.
wrt to personality (again, Quaker vs) having owned both, they are
both birds of the same genus, but it ends there. they are from
completely different planets(!). too much to go into detail but
two cockatiels are less trouble than a single conure, and appear
brain damaged by comparison. --Loren
>
> Thanks!
>
> "Marco & Chuck" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:BuVXa.17201$Vx2.8799449@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>> "Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
>> > I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
>> make
>> > up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie
> when
>> I
>> > was much younger, but that was many years ago.
>> >
>> > So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
>> > meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out
>> looking
>> > at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering
> a
>> > number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
>> > excellent pets also.
>> >
>> > Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are
> not
>> > super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the
>> sides).
>> > I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a
> bird
>> > with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not
>> too
>> > much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that
> the
>> > maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
>> > while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of
> that,
>> > and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
>> >
>> > Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I
>> listed?
>> > Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
>> >
>>
>> Cockatiels make great pets, not too loud, males might learn to talk, very
>> social birds.
>> Lovebirds are little bundles of non stop energy, cool birds, might get too
>> noisy with their non stop chattering. A handfed, well socialized young
> bird
>> would be your best shot.
>> Quakers are the noisiest of all the birds you mentioned. Maroon bellies or
>> green cheeks (very similar physically and in temperament) are _usually_
>> pretty quiet birds. But as with any other conure, they have the potential
> to
>> be little noise machines.
>> But they are great birdies to have around... loyal, playful and a bit
>> headstrong. I really like my meyers, he's a cool birdie, great mimic,
> funny,
>> friendly, not too loud. Sometimes prone to 'spastic' attacks. :)
>> Of course, evey bird is an individual, but make sure you get a handfed,
> well
>> socialized young bird. Make sure you are able to handle/play with the bird
>> before bringing it home. Meet as many birds as you possibly can... you'll
>> know which is that special one that's waiting for you to take him/her
> home.
>> --
>> Marco
>> -*-*-*-*
>> You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted,
>> then used against you.
>>
>>
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"Loren Coe" <loren@netnews.attbi.com> wrote in message
news:FSqYa.87672$YN5.63909@sccrnsc01...
> In article <kuWXa.39489$tQ2.1134551@news1.telusplanet.net>, Mike Marchand
wrote:
> > I think a Quaker will be ruled out if they are the noisiest.... I
wouldn't
> > mind if I had a house, but while I'm stuck in my condo I have to be
careful.
> >
> > How would you compare the personality of a cockatiel and a
maroon-bellied
> > conure? As far as personality & price is concerned.... do you get twice
the
> > bird in a conure (seeing as they are twice the price... here anyways!! )
>
> here in the DFW area, a Quaker is the least expenive conure and sell
> for 2x the price of a cockatiel so i suspecet you either typod or need
> to find another pet store. just mho.
I thought a Quaker was a parakeet... I've never heard it called a conure
before.??
> wrt to personality (again, Quaker vs) having owned both, they are
> both birds of the same genus, but it ends there. they are from
> completely different planets(!). too much to go into detail but
> two cockatiels are less trouble than a single conure, and appear
> brain damaged by comparison. --Loren
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| Loren Coe |
In article <7vtYa.68041$7O4.1591804@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>, Shannon wrote:
>
> "Loren Coe" <loren@netnews.attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:FSqYa.87672$YN5.63909@sccrnsc01...
>> In article <kuWXa.39489$tQ2.1134551@news1.telusplanet.net>, Mike Marchand
> wrote:
>> > I think a Quaker will be ruled out if they are the noisiest.... I
> wouldn't
>> > mind if I had a house, but while I'm stuck in my condo I have to be
> careful.
>> >
>> > How would you compare the personality of a cockatiel and a
> maroon-bellied
>> > conure? As far as personality & price is concerned.... do you get twice
> the
>> > bird in a conure (seeing as they are twice the price... here anyways!! )
>>
>> here in the DFW area, a Quaker is the least expenive conure and sell
>> for 2x the price of a cockatiel so i suspecet you either typod or need
>> to find another pet store. just mho.
>
> I thought a Quaker was a parakeet... I've never heard it called a conure
> before.??
yes, it is definitly a conure, from S.America. the cockatiel is
more like a parakeet, actually. the Quaker is bigger than a
cockatiel with a shorter tail. their beak is much stronger, and
they destroy amost anything for the sheer joy of it, often in
just a few seconds. that can be dissapointing because once
"disassembled", they have no further interest in it (unless you
can reassemble it). --Loren
>
>
>> wrt to personality (again, Quaker vs) having owned both, they are
>> both birds of the same genus, but it ends there. they are from
>> completely different planets(!). too much to go into detail but
>> two cockatiels are less trouble than a single conure, and appear
>> brain damaged by comparison. --Loren
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| Loren Coe |
In article <bgpbpe$ufm$1@allhats.xcski.com>, Vicki Robinson wrote:
> In a previous article, "Marco & Chuck" <chazmar@birdpoop.net> said:
>
>>Reread... they have the 'potential' to be 'little' noise machines. :) Our
>>GCC used to go off like crazy every time he'd see a stranger walk past our
>>front window. He was the watchdog. :)
[....]
>
> Our 7 'tiels can also be quite noisy, but their noise is much easier
> to take, for me, anyway. > > Vicki
when a Quaker "calls you", you cannot just close the bedroom door
and ignore him. he just gets louder and the sound comes thru so
well you wonder if he got out of the cage and is standing outside
(or _inside_) the door. --Loren
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| Marco & Chuck |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Loren Coe" <loren@netnews.attbi.com>
> yes, it is definitly a conure, from S.America. the cockatiel is
> more like a parakeet, actually.
Eh, quakers (or monk parakeets) are not conures.
Earlier you said:
> >> wrt to personality (again, Quaker vs) having owned both, they are
> >> both birds of the same genus, but it ends there. they are from
> >> completely different planets(!). too much to go into detail but
> >> two cockatiels are less trouble than a single conure, and appear
> >> brain damaged by comparison. --Loren
What both birds are of the same genus? The quaker and the cockatiel or the
quaker and the maroon belly or the tiel and the maroon belly? Your post is
kinda confusing..
But any way, it is wrong...
cockatiels = Nymphicus hollandicus
maroon belly conure = Pyhrrura frontalis
quaker parakeet = Myiopsitta monachus
Marco
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| lcoe |
Toucanldy <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote:
> Subject: Re: Advice for Pet Bird
> From: "Marco & Chuck" chazmar@ameritech.net
> <Eh, quakers (or monk parakeets) are not conures.>
> Actually, according to these sites, they are.
> http://www.arndt-verlag.com/projekt...m&Pic=265_1.JPG
> http://new.mypetstop.com/NR/exeres/.../BreedDescripti
> on.asp?NRMODE=Published& NRORIGINALURL=%2fUSA%2fBreeds%2fBird%2fQuaker%2bPa
> rakeet%2ehtm&NRNODEGUID=%7bCA3FB865-18CE-4082-A6D6-50625211748A%7d&NRQUERY
> TERMINATOR=1&cookie%5Ftest=1 > Regards
i pulled this from the bottom of the 2nd url: (--Loren)
If kept as pets, Quaker Parakeets should only be kept in large metal outdoor aviaries, where they will display this home-making behaviour. Only put birds that have already been paired off in the aviary. Quaker Parakeets have a strong bite and a tendency
to destroy things. In addition, their call is very shrill. As they will always return to the same area, in theory they could be allowed to fly freely. However, this should be avoided, because of their love of gnawing and their tendency to steal fruit a
n
d twigs in parks and gardens and devastate fields that are ready for harvesting.
Caring for and feeding your Quaker Parakeet is not difficult: it will eat fruit, greens and Trill large parrot food. A large amount of fresh twigs should also be provided.
A pair of birds will then lay up to eight eggs in the nest built from the twigs. The birds will brood for 26 days and the nesting time will continue for a further 6 weeks.
Features:
Quaker Parakeets are easy and unproblematic to look after and also very rewarding. However, their extremely loud call and destructive tendencies make them unpopular. When a bird becomes accustomed to his handler, he will learn how to imitate a few wor
ds and will become a very attractive member of the household.
Quaker Parakeets are the only parrot species with the ability to build their own nests. This makes keeping and observing these birds even more rewarding, particularly as feeding is not a problem.
Characteristics:
Name: Quaker Parakeet
Genus Conure
Origin: South America
Size: 29 - 30 cm
Care: Uncomplicated, but needs aviary made out of metal
Features: Loud, strong desire to gnaw
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| Mike Marchand |
Xref: 127.0.0.1 rec.pets.birds:195737
Thanks for all the advice guys... I went to my favourite pet store on the
weekend and witnessed a woman looking at the maroon-bellied conure I've been
interested in... I saw this woman roughly grab him, plunk him on her
shoulder and flick at his beak when he was nibbling on her shirt... she
flicked him so hard that he fell of her back and then she had the nerve to
yell at him for nibbling on her shirt.
So I did what any other decent person would do... yanked out my credit card,
handed it to the clerk and promptly informed the obtuse woman that I had
just purchased this bird. His name is now Tommy and he's extremely tame.
The first day I took him home, he tested me a few times by chomping on my
finger, but by yesterday (day two) he was cuddling me, preening my hair,
chattering away and exploring everything. Wonderful little bird and I'm
glad I chose him.
"Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
> I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
make
> up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie when
I
> was much younger, but that was many years ago.
>
> So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
> meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out
looking
> at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering a
> number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
> excellent pets also.
>
> Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are not
> super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the
sides).
> I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a bird
> with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not
too
> much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that the
> maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
> while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of that,
> and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
>
> Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I
listed?
> Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
>
>
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| oldmolly |
"Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TyRZa.57660$LD6.1267847@news0.telusplanet.net...
> Thanks for all the advice guys... I went to my favourite pet store on the
> weekend and witnessed a woman looking at the maroon-bellied conure I've
been
> interested in... I saw this woman roughly grab him, plunk him on her
> shoulder and flick at his beak when he was nibbling on her shirt... she
> flicked him so hard that he fell of her back and then she had the nerve to
> yell at him for nibbling on her shirt.
What sort of shop allows just anyone to manhandle and abuse their
livestock????
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| lcoe |
Mike Marchand <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for all the advice guys... I went to my favourite pet store on the
> weekend and witnessed a woman looking at the maroon-bellied conure I've been
> interested in... I saw this woman roughly grab him, plunk him on her
> shoulder and flick at his beak when he was nibbling on her shirt... she
> flicked him so hard that he fell of her back and then she had the nerve to
> yell at him for nibbling on her shirt.
i cannot believe the clerk/owner would allow this. i once foolishly offered
my hand to a large Cockatoo they had on a central perch. in a split second
he grabbed my index finger in his beak, exerting just a gentle pressure, then
let go. after my heart started, i felt very lucky/foolish. i should have
know better, plus, the bird was "posted".
but it did give me a clue as to the real intelligence some of these creatures
possess.
> So I did what any other decent person would do... yanked out my credit card,
> handed it to the clerk and promptly informed the obtuse woman that I had
> just purchased this bird. His name is now Tommy and he's extremely tame.
good for you. i was told that the individual bird can make a big difference
in your satisfaction w/him, so it is probably wise to buy one that is approachable
at the shop. my quaker knew to step up at the shop, and he was the only one
of the three in that brood that wasn't afraid to do so w/me.
good luck! --Loren
> The first day I took him home, he tested me a few times by chomping on my
> finger, but by yesterday (day two) he was cuddling me, preening my hair,
> chattering away and exploring everything. Wonderful little bird and I'm
> glad I chose him.
> "Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
>> I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
> make
>> up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie when
> I
>> was much younger, but that was many years ago.
>>
>> So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
>> meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out
> looking
>> at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering a
>> number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
>> excellent pets also.
>>
>> Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are not
>> super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the
> sides).
>> I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a bird
>> with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not
> too
>> much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that the
>> maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
>> while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of that,
>> and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
>>
>> Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I
> listed?
>> Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
>>
>>
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"Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
> I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
make
> up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird
Cockatiels are great for the first time serious bird owner. Not too loud,
plenty of personality, and the males are fair talkers. They are not quite
as dependent on their masters, if you have a pair.
--
---Jim in NC---
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| Shannon |
Hi Mike!
My quaker was my first "serious" bird. He's a male and quite a talker...
Not too loud, but I've known other quakers to be really loud. I also have a
male cockatiel who has a wonderful whistle and small vocabulary. My mom is
a breeder, and I got both of them through her. She told me that Quakers are
the least expensive "talking" bird... at about $130 from a breeder. This
has been my experience... best of luck to you!
Shannon
"Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
> I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
make
> up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie when
I
> was much younger, but that was many years ago.
>
> So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
> meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out
looking
> at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering a
> number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
> excellent pets also.
>
> Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are not
> super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the
sides).
> I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a bird
> with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not
too
> much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that the
> maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
> while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of that,
> and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
>
> Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I
listed?
> Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
>
>
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"Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
> I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
make
> up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie when
I
> was much younger, but that was many years ago.
>
> So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
> meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out
looking
> at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering a
> number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
> excellent pets also.
>
> Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are not
> super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the
sides).
> I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a bird
> with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not
too
> much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that the
> maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
> while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of that,
> and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
>
> Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I
listed?
> Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
>
Cockatiels make great pets, not too loud, males might learn to talk, very
social birds.
Lovebirds are little bundles of non stop energy, cool birds, might get too
noisy with their non stop chattering. A handfed, well socialized young bird
would be your best shot.
Quakers are the noisiest of all the birds you mentioned. Maroon bellies or
green cheeks (very similar physically and in temperament) are _usually_
pretty quiet birds. But as with any other conure, they have the potential to
be little noise machines.
But they are great birdies to have around... loyal, playful and a bit
headstrong. I really like my meyers, he's a cool birdie, great mimic, funny,
friendly, not too loud. Sometimes prone to 'spastic' attacks. :)
Of course, evey bird is an individual, but make sure you get a handfed, well
socialized young bird. Make sure you are able to handle/play with the bird
before bringing it home. Meet as many birds as you possibly can... you'll
know which is that special one that's waiting for you to take him/her home.
--
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"Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
> I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't make
> up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie when I
> was much younger, but that was many years ago.
>
> So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
> meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out looking
> at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering a
> number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
> excellent pets also.
>
> Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are not
> super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the sides).
> I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a bird
> with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not too
> much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that the
> maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
> while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of that,
> and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
>
> Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I listed?
> Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
Also check out green-cheek conures. We have a female and she's
an absolute joy... Smart as a whip, not too noisy and by far the most
affectionate pet we've ever owned.
Rick
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| oldmolly |
"Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
> I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
make
> up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie when
I
> was much younger, but that was many years ago.
>
> So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
> meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out
looking
> at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering a
> number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
> excellent pets also.
>
> Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are not
> super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the
sides).
> I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a bird
> with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not
too
> much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that the
> maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
> while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of that,
> and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
>
> Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I
listed?
> Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
>
>
All good choices, but if you don't want loud, don't get a quaker. I adore
them and have 5 of them but as much as I love them, I have to admit that
they are loud.
Meyers are sweet and can learn to talk, but as with all poicephalus's, they
tend to nippy as they hit adolescence <sp>.
Some more choices for you to consider are black headed caiques,
lineolated,celestial parrotlets, pionus.
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"Marco & Chuck" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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But as with any other conure, they have the potential to
> be little noise machines.
I must dispute that. The 'aratinga' conures are noise machines. The pyrhura
conures in the main are relatively quiet.
.. I really like my meyers, he's a cool birdie, great mimic, funny,
> friendly, not too loud. Sometimes prone to 'spastic' attacks. :)
I like mine too. They say "beep beep".
> Of course, evey bird is an individual, but make sure you get a handfed,
well
> socialized young bird. Make sure you are able to handle/play with the bird
> before bringing it home. Meet as many birds as you possibly can... you'll
> know which is that special one that's waiting for you to take him/her
home.
Excellent advice Maaaarrrco.
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"oldmolly" <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
> > I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
> make
> > up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie
when
> I
> > was much younger, but that was many years ago.
> >
> > So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
> > meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out
> looking
> > at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering
a
> > number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
> > excellent pets also.
> >
> > Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are
not
> > super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the
> sides).
> > I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a
bird
> > with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not
> too
> > much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that
the
> > maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
> > while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of
that,
> > and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
> >
> > Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I
> listed?
> > Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
> >
> >
> All good choices, but if you don't want loud, don't get a quaker. I
adore
> them and have 5 of them but as much as I love them, I have to admit that
> they are loud.
> Meyers are sweet and can learn to talk, but as with all poicephalus's,
they
> tend to nippy as they hit adolescence <sp>.
> Some more choices for you to consider are black headed caiques,
> lineolated,celestial parrotlets, pionus.
>
>
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Out of curiousity, what is the usual price range for meyers? The one I
looked at was $1000 (Canadian dollars).
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| Mike Marchand |
I think a Quaker will be ruled out if they are the noisiest.... I wouldn't
mind if I had a house, but while I'm stuck in my condo I have to be careful.
How would you compare the personality of a cockatiel and a maroon-bellied
conure? As far as personality & price is concerned.... do you get twice the
bird in a conure (seeing as they are twice the price... here anyways!! )
Thanks!
"Marco & Chuck" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
> > I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
> make
> > up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie
when
> I
> > was much younger, but that was many years ago.
> >
> > So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
> > meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out
> looking
> > at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering
a
> > number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
> > excellent pets also.
> >
> > Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are
not
> > super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the
> sides).
> > I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a
bird
> > with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not
> too
> > much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that
the
> > maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
> > while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of
that,
> > and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
> >
> > Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I
> listed?
> > Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
> >
>
> Cockatiels make great pets, not too loud, males might learn to talk, very
> social birds.
> Lovebirds are little bundles of non stop energy, cool birds, might get too
> noisy with their non stop chattering. A handfed, well socialized young
bird
> would be your best shot.
> Quakers are the noisiest of all the birds you mentioned. Maroon bellies or
> green cheeks (very similar physically and in temperament) are _usually_
> pretty quiet birds. But as with any other conure, they have the potential
to
> be little noise machines.
> But they are great birdies to have around... loyal, playful and a bit
> headstrong. I really like my meyers, he's a cool birdie, great mimic,
funny,
> friendly, not too loud. Sometimes prone to 'spastic' attacks. :)
> Of course, evey bird is an individual, but make sure you get a handfed,
well
> socialized young bird. Make sure you are able to handle/play with the bird
> before bringing it home. Meet as many birds as you possibly can... you'll
> know which is that special one that's waiting for you to take him/her
home.
> --
> Marco
> -*-*-*-*
> You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted,
> then used against you.
>
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"Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kuWXa.39489$tQ2.1134551@news1.telusplanet.net...
> I think a Quaker will be ruled out if they are the noisiest.... I wouldn't
> mind if I had a house, but while I'm stuck in my condo I have to be
careful.
>
> How would you compare the personality of a cockatiel and a maroon-bellied
> conure? As far as personality & price is concerned.... do you get twice
the
> bird in a conure (seeing as they are twice the price... here anyways!! )
>
> Thanks!
Each brings its various attributes. In my opinion:
MB - smart, quiet, smaller, greener, longer life-span, great eaters
Cockatiel - some are good talkers, interesting colors and charming crest
Each brings its various non-attributes. In my opinion:
MB - can get into more trouble faster due to curiosity and intelligence
Cockatiel - "blonde", never had one that would eat carrots
They are both pretty willing to be loved and kissed as much as I like.
Keep in mind that each bird is an individual and generalities are not always
a fair portrayal of any one bird. Most people have at least one bird which
is the exception to the generalities.
Shop for a healthy bird from a clean facility with a good reputation. Not
all hand-fed babies are equal. Mass fed by hand is not the same as
hand-fed, nurtured and socialized to be a pet. Take your time before making
your decision on the one for you.
--
Sincerely,
Joanne
If it's right for you, then it's right, . . . . . for you!!!
Play - http://www.jobird.com
Pay for Play - http://www.jobird.com/refund.htm
Looking for Love? - http://www.jobird.com/hearts.htm
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| Loren Coe |
In article <kuWXa.39489$tQ2.1134551@news1.telusplanet.net>, Mike Marchand wrote:
> I think a Quaker will be ruled out if they are the noisiest.... I wouldn't
> mind if I had a house, but while I'm stuck in my condo I have to be careful.
>
> How would you compare the personality of a cockatiel and a maroon-bellied
> conure? As far as personality & price is concerned.... do you get twice the
> bird in a conure (seeing as they are twice the price... here anyways!! )
here in the DFW area, a Quaker is the least expenive conure and sell
for 2x the price of a cockatiel so i suspecet you either typod or need
to find another pet store. just mho.
wrt to personality (again, Quaker vs) having owned both, they are
both birds of the same genus, but it ends there. they are from
completely different planets(!). too much to go into detail but
two cockatiels are less trouble than a single conure, and appear
brain damaged by comparison. --Loren
>
> Thanks!
>
> "Marco & Chuck" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:BuVXa.17201$Vx2.8799449@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>> "Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
>> > I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
>> make
>> > up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie
> when
>> I
>> > was much younger, but that was many years ago.
>> >
>> > So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
>> > meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out
>> looking
>> > at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering
> a
>> > number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
>> > excellent pets also.
>> >
>> > Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are
> not
>> > super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the
>> sides).
>> > I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a
> bird
>> > with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not
>> too
>> > much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that
> the
>> > maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
>> > while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of
> that,
>> > and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
>> >
>> > Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I
>> listed?
>> > Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
>> >
>>
>> Cockatiels make great pets, not too loud, males might learn to talk, very
>> social birds.
>> Lovebirds are little bundles of non stop energy, cool birds, might get too
>> noisy with their non stop chattering. A handfed, well socialized young
> bird
>> would be your best shot.
>> Quakers are the noisiest of all the birds you mentioned. Maroon bellies or
>> green cheeks (very similar physically and in temperament) are _usually_
>> pretty quiet birds. But as with any other conure, they have the potential
> to
>> be little noise machines.
>> But they are great birdies to have around... loyal, playful and a bit
>> headstrong. I really like my meyers, he's a cool birdie, great mimic,
> funny,
>> friendly, not too loud. Sometimes prone to 'spastic' attacks. :)
>> Of course, evey bird is an individual, but make sure you get a handfed,
> well
>> socialized young bird. Make sure you are able to handle/play with the bird
>> before bringing it home. Meet as many birds as you possibly can... you'll
>> know which is that special one that's waiting for you to take him/her
> home.
>> --
>> Marco
>> -*-*-*-*
>> You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted,
>> then used against you.
>>
>>
>
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| Shannon |
"Loren Coe" <loren@netnews.attbi.com> wrote in message
news:FSqYa.87672$YN5.63909@sccrnsc01...
> In article <kuWXa.39489$tQ2.1134551@news1.telusplanet.net>, Mike Marchand
wrote:
> > I think a Quaker will be ruled out if they are the noisiest.... I
wouldn't
> > mind if I had a house, but while I'm stuck in my condo I have to be
careful.
> >
> > How would you compare the personality of a cockatiel and a
maroon-bellied
> > conure? As far as personality & price is concerned.... do you get twice
the
> > bird in a conure (seeing as they are twice the price... here anyways!! )
>
> here in the DFW area, a Quaker is the least expenive conure and sell
> for 2x the price of a cockatiel so i suspecet you either typod or need
> to find another pet store. just mho.
I thought a Quaker was a parakeet... I've never heard it called a conure
before.??
> wrt to personality (again, Quaker vs) having owned both, they are
> both birds of the same genus, but it ends there. they are from
> completely different planets(!). too much to go into detail but
> two cockatiels are less trouble than a single conure, and appear
> brain damaged by comparison. --Loren
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| Loren Coe |
In article <7vtYa.68041$7O4.1591804@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>, Shannon wrote:
>
> "Loren Coe" <loren@netnews.attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:FSqYa.87672$YN5.63909@sccrnsc01...
>> In article <kuWXa.39489$tQ2.1134551@news1.telusplanet.net>, Mike Marchand
> wrote:
>> > I think a Quaker will be ruled out if they are the noisiest.... I
> wouldn't
>> > mind if I had a house, but while I'm stuck in my condo I have to be
> careful.
>> >
>> > How would you compare the personality of a cockatiel and a
> maroon-bellied
>> > conure? As far as personality & price is concerned.... do you get twice
> the
>> > bird in a conure (seeing as they are twice the price... here anyways!! )
>>
>> here in the DFW area, a Quaker is the least expenive conure and sell
>> for 2x the price of a cockatiel so i suspecet you either typod or need
>> to find another pet store. just mho.
>
> I thought a Quaker was a parakeet... I've never heard it called a conure
> before.??
yes, it is definitly a conure, from S.America. the cockatiel is
more like a parakeet, actually. the Quaker is bigger than a
cockatiel with a shorter tail. their beak is much stronger, and
they destroy amost anything for the sheer joy of it, often in
just a few seconds. that can be dissapointing because once
"disassembled", they have no further interest in it (unless you
can reassemble it). --Loren
>
>
>> wrt to personality (again, Quaker vs) having owned both, they are
>> both birds of the same genus, but it ends there. they are from
>> completely different planets(!). too much to go into detail but
>> two cockatiels are less trouble than a single conure, and appear
>> brain damaged by comparison. --Loren
>
>
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| Loren Coe |
In article <bgpbpe$ufm$1@allhats.xcski.com>, Vicki Robinson wrote:
> In a previous article, "Marco & Chuck" <chazmar@birdpoop.net> said:
>
>>Reread... they have the 'potential' to be 'little' noise machines. :) Our
>>GCC used to go off like crazy every time he'd see a stranger walk past our
>>front window. He was the watchdog. :)
[....]
>
> Our 7 'tiels can also be quite noisy, but their noise is much easier
> to take, for me, anyway. > > Vicki
when a Quaker "calls you", you cannot just close the bedroom door
and ignore him. he just gets louder and the sound comes thru so
well you wonder if he got out of the cage and is standing outside
(or _inside_) the door. --Loren
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| Marco & Chuck |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Loren Coe" <loren@netnews.attbi.com>
> yes, it is definitly a conure, from S.America. the cockatiel is
> more like a parakeet, actually.
Eh, quakers (or monk parakeets) are not conures.
Earlier you said:
> >> wrt to personality (again, Quaker vs) having owned both, they are
> >> both birds of the same genus, but it ends there. they are from
> >> completely different planets(!). too much to go into detail but
> >> two cockatiels are less trouble than a single conure, and appear
> >> brain damaged by comparison. --Loren
What both birds are of the same genus? The quaker and the cockatiel or the
quaker and the maroon belly or the tiel and the maroon belly? Your post is
kinda confusing..
But any way, it is wrong...
cockatiels = Nymphicus hollandicus
maroon belly conure = Pyhrrura frontalis
quaker parakeet = Myiopsitta monachus
Marco
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| lcoe |
Toucanldy <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote:
> Subject: Re: Advice for Pet Bird
> From: "Marco & Chuck" chazmar@ameritech.net
> <Eh, quakers (or monk parakeets) are not conures.>
> Actually, according to these sites, they are.
> http://www.arndt-verlag.com/projekt...m&Pic=265_1.JPG
> http://new.mypetstop.com/NR/exeres/.../BreedDescripti
> on.asp?NRMODE=Published& NRORIGINALURL=%2fUSA%2fBreeds%2fBird%2fQuaker%2bPa
> rakeet%2ehtm&NRNODEGUID=%7bCA3FB865-18CE-4082-A6D6-50625211748A%7d&NRQUERY
> TERMINATOR=1&cookie%5Ftest=1 > Regards
i pulled this from the bottom of the 2nd url: (--Loren)
If kept as pets, Quaker Parakeets should only be kept in large metal outdoor aviaries, where they will display this home-making behaviour. Only put birds that have already been paired off in the aviary. Quaker Parakeets have a strong bite and a tendency
to destroy things. In addition, their call is very shrill. As they will always return to the same area, in theory they could be allowed to fly freely. However, this should be avoided, because of their love of gnawing and their tendency to steal fruit a
n
d twigs in parks and gardens and devastate fields that are ready for harvesting.
Caring for and feeding your Quaker Parakeet is not difficult: it will eat fruit, greens and Trill large parrot food. A large amount of fresh twigs should also be provided.
A pair of birds will then lay up to eight eggs in the nest built from the twigs. The birds will brood for 26 days and the nesting time will continue for a further 6 weeks.
Features:
Quaker Parakeets are easy and unproblematic to look after and also very rewarding. However, their extremely loud call and destructive tendencies make them unpopular. When a bird becomes accustomed to his handler, he will learn how to imitate a few wor
ds and will become a very attractive member of the household.
Quaker Parakeets are the only parrot species with the ability to build their own nests. This makes keeping and observing these birds even more rewarding, particularly as feeding is not a problem.
Characteristics:
Name: Quaker Parakeet
Genus Conure
Origin: South America
Size: 29 - 30 cm
Care: Uncomplicated, but needs aviary made out of metal
Features: Loud, strong desire to gnaw
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| Mike Marchand |
Thanks for all the advice guys... I went to my favourite pet store on the
weekend and witnessed a woman looking at the maroon-bellied conure I've been
interested in... I saw this woman roughly grab him, plunk him on her
shoulder and flick at his beak when he was nibbling on her shirt... she
flicked him so hard that he fell of her back and then she had the nerve to
yell at him for nibbling on her shirt.
So I did what any other decent person would do... yanked out my credit card,
handed it to the clerk and promptly informed the obtuse woman that I had
just purchased this bird. His name is now Tommy and he's extremely tame.
The first day I took him home, he tested me a few times by chomping on my
finger, but by yesterday (day two) he was cuddling me, preening my hair,
chattering away and exploring everything. Wonderful little bird and I'm
glad I chose him.
"Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CRUXa.39471$tQ2.1132066@news1.telusplanet.net...
> I'm trying to decide what kind of bird to buy for a pet and just can't
make
> up my mind. It's sort of a first "serious" bird... I owned a budgie when
I
> was much younger, but that was many years ago.
>
> So far, I'm interested in the following species : lovebird, cockatiel,
> meyers parrot, maroon-bellied conure and quaker. When I started out
looking
> at birds, it was either a Cockatiel or lovebird, but since encountering a
> number of other species, the meyers, conure and quaker all seem like
> excellent pets also.
>
> Some considerations are that I live in an apartment, but the walls are not
> super thin (I can occasionally hear voices from above, but never the
sides).
> I also have a pet dog (cocker spaniel) and tropical fish. I'd like a bird
> with some personality and likes to make some noise (but preferablly not
too
> much screaming because of the neighbours). Some publications say that the
> maroon-bellied conure can be very loud but not as loud as other conures,
> while others say it's very quiet.... so I don't know what to make of that,
> and I have not read a whole lot about the meyers or quaker.
>
> Anyone give me some advice or recommendations other than the birds I
listed?
> Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
>
>
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| Mike Marchand |
They don't "allow" just anyone to manhandle their livestock, however this
woman was interested in buying the bird and she had asked to take a closer
look at him.
"oldmolly" <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:bh954s$vj9eo$1@ID-165698.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> "Mike Marchand" <marchandmike@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:TyRZa.57660$LD6.1267847@news0.telusplanet.net...
> > Thanks for all the advice guys... I went to my favourite pet store on
the
> > weekend and witnessed a woman looking at the maroon-bellied conure I've
> been
> > interested in... I saw this woman roughly grab him, plunk him on her
> > shoulder and flick at his beak when he was nibbling on her shirt... she
> > flicked him so hard that he fell of her back and then she had the nerve
to
> > yell at him for nibbling on her shirt.
>
> What sort of shop allows just anyone to manhandle and abuse their
> livestock????
>
>
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