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| BAppleg |
love the birds had my last coctail for 10 years and was killed in a home fire
have been lost without it would love to give a bird a wonderful home which he
or she would be very spoiled member of wildlife organization peta and north
shore animal hospital and love all animals have adopted to chihuahuas and they
are my kids live in crawsfordsville indiana bappleg@aol.com
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| MrJ |
"BAppleg" <bappleg@aol.com> wrote in message
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> love the birds had my last coctail for 10 years and was killed in a home
fire
> have been lost without it would love to give a bird a wonderful home which
he
> or she would be very spoiled member of wildlife organization peta and
north
> shore animal hospital and love all animals have adopted to chihuahuas and
they
> are my kids live in crawsfordsville indiana bappleg@aol.com
So pry open the old wallet and buy one you cheap m.f. *******.
btw - it is not 'coctail' or 'cocktail' it is 'cockatiel' and this little
dot thing here . is called a period. Try using one.
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| Morgans |
"MrJ" <misterjynx@hotyour.attitudemail.com> wrote in message
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>
> So pry open the old wallet and buy one you cheap m.f. *******.
>
> btw - it is not 'coctail' or 'cocktail' it is 'cockatiel' and this little
> dot thing here . is called a period. Try using one.
>
>
> --
> *MrJ*
> Do something about 'your.attitude'
> to reply via e-mail.
>
>
Talk about attitude! Try leaving yours at the door!
Some people do not have the extra money to buy birds, but would give a bird
a very good home. I fit in that example, also.
I am a teacher, and so is my wife. We have two kids in college, and I have
had 4 major operations in the past 5 years, and also have high medicine
expenses.
We have a breeding pair of cockatiels, and I have GIVEN away enough babies,
(hand fed) that if I had been greedy and sold the babies, I would have
enough money that I could buy a big bird. I too would love to adopt a large
bird of some type, but can not (at this time) afford it. The fact that I
have been so generous with giving should make me eligible to get an adopted
bird, but I doubt that it will.
Until you have walked a mile in the other persons shoes, you have no right
to criticize.
Flame on; I'm sure you will, but I can take it.
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| Marco & Chuck |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Morgans" <post/the/group.here.net>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: wanting to give cocktails parrots or unwanted bird new home
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> "MrJ" <misterjynx@hotyour.attitudemail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
> > So pry open the old wallet and buy one you cheap m.f. *******.
> >
> >
> Talk about attitude! Try leaving yours at the door!
>
> Some people do not have the extra money to buy birds, but would give a
bird
> a very good home. I fit in that example, also.
As I see it, the initial cost of the bird itself is just a fraction of all
the expenses the owner will cover.
For example: a B&G macaw runs about $800 in our area. A good sturdy, roomy
cage will run you about $700 depending on the brand. Commercially available
toys for big birds are super expensive and you'll have to constantly replace
them. A complete health check up will run you another couple of hundreds.
Emergency vet visits can run you into the thousands of dollars. So, you
see... that's the reason why people react the way they do when someone comes
around asking for free birds, if the person really can't afford the upfront
cost of the animal itself how can he/she afford it's care and keep? We've
seen in this and other groups way too often from people with sick birds that
need vet care but the owner can't afford it.
ps: I've also given out birds for free ... where's my pair of BP???? <eg>
M.
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| Morgans |
>
> As I see it, the initial cost of the bird itself is just a fraction of all
> the expenses the owner will cover.
> For example: a B&G macaw runs about $800 in our area. A good sturdy, roomy
> cage will run you about $700 depending on the brand. Commercially
available
> toys for big birds are super expensive and you'll have to constantly
replace
> them. A complete health check up will run you another couple of hundreds.
> Emergency vet visits can run you into the thousands of dollars. So, you
> see... that's the reason why people react the way they do when someone
comes
> around asking for free birds, if the person really can't afford the
upfront
> cost of the animal itself how can he/she afford it's care and keep? We've
> seen in this and other groups way too often from people with sick birds
that
> need vet care but the owner can't afford it.
>
> ps: I've also given out birds for free ... where's my pair of BP???? <eg>
>
> M.
>
>
Agreed about the cost of upkeep. I already have a suitable cage. I have a
good friend who is an avian vet, so that helps with that cost. I am capable
of making my own toys, so there goes that.
Even if a person had to pay full price for all of the upkeep, the cost of
purchase may put it over the edge, and out of budget. As long as the person
wanting a freebe is well informed and comitted, I see nothing wrong with
wanting to give an older bird a good home.
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| Owly |
"Marco & Chuck" <chazmar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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> A complete health check up will run you another couple of hundreds.
> Emergency vet visits can run you into the thousands of dollars.
And don't forget, then if their bird gets sick or injured, they post here
requesting a diagnosis, treatment plan, and prognosis when they either can't
afford, or just don't want to pay for, a vet visit...in many cases it is the
"something for nothing" mentality at work rather than an attempt to be truly
charitable and offer the best life possible (which DOES cost $$) to a bird
needing a home where they'll receive proper attention, handling, and care.
Sitting here behind our computer screens we have no way of knowing which is
the case. But when someone comes online looking for a free bird...that's
usually the former case. Those of us who see it happen over and over again
are understandably skeptical.
(BTW, half of my flock are "free birds" - who have been anything but
"free" - but I've never advertised for anybody to give me a bird, my passion
and compassion have led their owners to seek me out.)
--
owly
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| oldmolly |
"Morgans" <post/the/group.here.net> wrote in message
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> "MrJ" <misterjynx@hotyour.attitudemail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
> > So pry open the old wallet and buy one you cheap m.f. *******.
> >
> > btw - it is not 'coctail' or 'cocktail' it is 'cockatiel' and this
little
> > dot thing here . is called a period. Try using one.
> >
> >
> > --
> > *MrJ*
> > Do something about 'your.attitude'
> > to reply via e-mail.
> >
> >
> Talk about attitude! Try leaving yours at the door!
>
> Some people do not have the extra money to buy birds, but would give a
bird
> a very good home. I fit in that example, also.
>
> I am a teacher, and so is my wife. We have two kids in college, and I
have
> had 4 major operations in the past 5 years, and also have high medicine
> expenses.
>
> We have a breeding pair of cockatiels, and I have GIVEN away enough
babies,
> (hand fed) that if I had been greedy and sold the babies, I would have
> enough money that I could buy a big bird. I too would love to adopt a
large
> bird of some type, but can not (at this time) afford it. The fact that I
> have been so generous with giving should make me eligible to get an
adopted
> bird, but I doubt that it will.
>
> Until you have walked a mile in the other persons shoes, you have no right
> to criticize.
>
> Flame on; I'm sure you will, but I can take it.
> --
Grow up for goodness sake. Just because you choose to give your hand reared
babies away for free, why should anyone give you a parrot?
Why give away babies which have cost good money in hand rearing food? If
you are so broke, you should sell them to recoup your costs and you might
perhaps afford to buy a parrot. Just because you have no money sense,
doesn't mean that others have to pander to you.
If you cannot afford to buy a parrot, you surely cannot afford the costs of
veterinary treatment if things go wrong.
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| Morgans |
"oldmolly" <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> wrote .
> > --
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> Grow up for goodness sake. Just because you choose to give your hand
reared
> babies away for free, why should anyone give you a parrot?
> Why give away babies which have cost good money in hand rearing food? If
> you are so broke, you should sell them to recoup your costs and you might
> perhaps afford to buy a parrot. Just because you have no money sense,
> doesn't mean that others have to pander to you.
> If you cannot afford to buy a parrot, you surely cannot afford the costs
of
> veterinary treatment if things go wrong.
>
>
>
I feel sorry for you. Life must really be a drag, when so much bitterness
rules your life.
I choose to give away my babies so I can know they are getting good homes.
It isn't a matter of money; money does not rule my life.
If I do ever get another large bird and it needs vet care, you can rest
assured that I will find a way to pay for it. I am not likely to go out and
spend the outragious money to buy one. It might mean that I'll never have
one, but I can live with that. If a bird is lucky enough to adopt me, it
will be a lucky bird, with a loving home.
I've wasted enough time on you.
Bye!
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---Jim in NC---
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| oldmolly |
"Morgans" <post/the/group.here.net> wrote in message
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> "oldmolly" <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> wrote .
> > > --
> >
> > Grow up for goodness sake. Just because you choose to give your hand
> reared
> > babies away for free, why should anyone give you a parrot?
> > Why give away babies which have cost good money in hand rearing food?
If
> > you are so broke, you should sell them to recoup your costs and you
might
> > perhaps afford to buy a parrot. Just because you have no money sense,
> > doesn't mean that others have to pander to you.
> > If you cannot afford to buy a parrot, you surely cannot afford the costs
> of
> > veterinary treatment if things go wrong.
> >
> >
> >
> I feel sorry for you. Life must really be a drag, when so much bitterness
> rules your life.
>
Don't feel sorry for me. I have a great life. Every day is a pleasure on
the whole and I'm not at all bitter. I just wanted to ppoint out that if you
choose to fritter *your* money away, you cannot expect others to subsidise
you.
> I choose to give away my babies so I can know they are getting good homes.
> It isn't a matter of money; money does not rule my life.
>
But it does when you cannot afford to pay for something you want.
> I've wasted enough time on you.
>
> Bye!
Now who is bitter??
I just hope that nobody with a potential adoptive bird needing a home, has
read this post of yours.
*I* would not adopt one of *my* charges to you with such an 'easy come easy
go' attitude to money and vet bills.
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| Carol |
How can you not afford to buy a cockatiel but think you will be able to
afford food, cage, vet bills etc. that goes along with having a bird?
Carol
"MrJ" <misterjynx@hotyour.attitudemail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "BAppleg" <bappleg@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20030804103802.06816.00000988@mb-m06.aol.com...
> > love the birds had my last coctail for 10 years and was killed in a home
> fire
> > have been lost without it would love to give a bird a wonderful home
which
> he
> > or she would be very spoiled member of wildlife organization peta and
> north
> > shore animal hospital and love all animals have adopted to chihuahuas
and
> they
> > are my kids live in crawsfordsville indiana bappleg@aol.com
>
>
> >
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| Morgans |
"Hohman Circus" <htcx3@highvision.net> wrote in message
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> "Morgans" <post/the/group.here.net> wrote in message
> news:vivtjvmav1bu6a@corp.supernews.com...
> > I choose to give away my babies so I can know they are getting good
homes.
> > It isn't a matter of money; money does not rule my life.
>
> Little or no cost often equates with little or no value in a consumer's
> mind. If you want to know that your birds are getting a good home, you
would
> be better off putting a price tag on them. That way, the people who seek
to
> purchase from you are showing their willingness to make a sacrifice for
the
> privilege of sharing their lives with one of your babies. Too many pets
are
> undervalued these days.....
>
> Kays
>
> I see your point, and agree. I only gave them to people I knew, and had
been (for the most part) turned on to birds by my little flock. <g>
Believe me, they were valued greatly, and I still get to see many of them on
ocasion to birdsit. It is funny how the fall back into the routine like
they hade never left home.
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| Hohman Circus |
"Morgans" <post/the/group.here.net> wrote in message
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> I choose to give away my babies so I can know they are getting good homes.
> It isn't a matter of money; money does not rule my life.
Little or no cost often equates with little or no value in a consumer's
mind. If you want to know that your birds are getting a good home, you would
be better off putting a price tag on them. That way, the people who seek to
purchase from you are showing their willingness to make a sacrifice for the
privilege of sharing their lives with one of your babies. Too many pets are
undervalued these days.....
Kays
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| PW |
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 09:06:18 GMT, "MrJ"
<misterjynx@hotyour.attitudemail.com> wrote:
>
>"BAppleg" <bappleg@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20030804103802.06816.00000988@mb-m06.aol.com...
>> love the birds had my last coctail for 10 years and was killed in a home
>fire
>> have been lost without it would love to give a bird a wonderful home which
>he
>> or she would be very spoiled member of wildlife organization peta and
>north
>> shore animal hospital and love all animals have adopted to chihuahuas and
>they
>> are my kids live in crawsfordsville indiana bappleg@aol.com
>
>
>So pry open the old wallet and buy one you cheap m.f. *******.
>
>btw - it is not 'coctail' or 'cocktail' it is 'cockatiel' and this little
>dot thing here . is called a period. Try using one.
Actually it's not 'cockatiel' either. That was just some name
popularised after they were taken out of Australia. They're actually
more correctly known by their aboriginal name 'quarrions'.
PW
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| Toucanldy |
>From: PW ask@ifyouwantmyemailaddress.com
>>btw - it is not 'coctail' or 'cocktail' it is 'cockatiel' and this little
>>dot thing here . is called a period. Try using one.
>
>Actually it's not 'cockatiel' either. That was just some name
>popularised after they were taken out of Australia. They're actually
>more correctly known by their aboriginal name 'quarrions'.
>
>PW
http://www.birdmunchies.com.au/prod...ards/card01.htm
1. The Cockatiel (Nymphicus Hollandicus) along with the budgie were Australia's
early ambassadors, reaching Europe as early as the 1840's and being bred in
Europe in 1845. The Cockatiel has had a variety of names, the well-known
ornithologist, John Gould, called them Cockatoo Parrots. In different parts of
Australia they are also known as Quarrions or Weeros. The name Cockatiel comes
from the Dutch word Kakatielje. In the wild this delightful bird ranges over
most of Australia, with the exception of Tasmania, mainly found in the vast
inland areas of Australia. Cockatiels are nomadic swift fliers covering vast
distances in search of food.
Regards
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| MrJ |
"Morgans" <post/the/group.here.net> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> Talk about attitude! Try leaving yours at the door!
>
But you can have yours?
> I too would love to adopt a large
> bird of some type, but can not (at this time) afford it.
Finally! Someone actually admits that they can't afford a free bird.
> The fact that I
> have been so generous with giving should make me eligible to get an
adopted
> bird, but I doubt that it will.
>
So you're a shmuck.
> Until you have walked a mile in the other persons shoes, you have no right
> to criticize.
>
How much time have you spent in my shoes? You hypocritical ass.
> Flame on; I'm sure you will, but I can take it.
> --
> ---Jim in NC---
>
>
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| MrJ |
"Morgans" <doitonyhegroup@evryone.net> wrote in message
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> "MrJ" <misterjynx@hotyour.attitudemail.com> wrote in message
> news:d1af669172e6bbc6e0bccd407d96cadf@news.meganetnews.com...
> >
> > "Morgans" <post/the/group.here.net> wrote in message
> > news:viv4l7f98up0c2@corp.supernews.com...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Talk about attitude! Try leaving yours at the door!
> > >
> >
> > But you can have yours?
> >
> > > I too would love to adopt a large
> > > bird of some type, but can not (at this time) afford it.
> >
> > Finally! Someone actually admits that they can't afford a free bird.
>
> I mis typed that, what I meant to come across is that I can't afford to
buy
> on, and pay for vet and emergencies. I can take care of the problems that
> come up; I just find a way.
>
> I'll leave my attitude at the door. Will you?
> --
> Jim in NC--
>
>
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| NaDeana |
PW wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 09:06:18 GMT, "MrJ"
> <misterjynx@hotyour.attitudemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"BAppleg" <bappleg@aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:20030804103802.06816.00000988@mb-m06.aol.com...
>>
>>>love the birds had my last coctail for 10 years and was killed in a home
>>
>>fire
>>
>>>have been lost without it would love to give a bird a wonderful home which
>>
>>he
>>
>>>or she would be very spoiled member of wildlife organization peta and
>>
>>north
>>
>>>shore animal hospital and love all animals have adopted to chihuahuas and
>>
>>they
>>
>>>are my kids live in crawsfordsville indiana bappleg@aol.com
>>
>>
>>So pry open the old wallet and buy one you cheap m.f. *******.
>>
>>btw - it is not 'coctail' or 'cocktail' it is 'cockatiel' and this little
>>dot thing here . is called a period. Try using one.
>
>
> Actually it's not 'cockatiel' either. That was just some name
> popularised after they were taken out of Australia. They're actually
> more correctly known by their aboriginal name 'quarrions'.
>
> PW
Maybe where you are from. That is the exact reason everything is
classified with a genus and species name so that regardless of all other
nicknames there is a common name to identify a plant or animal. So to
me, it is cockatiels.
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| Toucanldy |
>From: PW ask@ifyouwantmyemailaddress.com
>>btw - it is not 'coctail' or 'cocktail' it is 'cockatiel' and this little
>>dot thing here . is called a period. Try using one.
>
>Actually it's not 'cockatiel' either. That was just some name
>popularised after they were taken out of Australia. They're actually
>more correctly known by their aboriginal name 'quarrions'.
>
>PW
http://www.birdmunchies.com.au/prod...ards/card01.htm
1. The Cockatiel (Nymphicus Hollandicus) along with the budgie were Australia's
early ambassadors, reaching Europe as early as the 1840's and being bred in
Europe in 1845. The Cockatiel has had a variety of names, the well-known
ornithologist, John Gould, called them Cockatoo Parrots. In different parts of
Australia they are also known as Quarrions or Weeros. The name Cockatiel comes
from the Dutch word Kakatielje. In the wild this delightful bird ranges over
most of Australia, with the exception of Tasmania, mainly found in the vast
inland areas of Australia. Cockatiels are nomadic swift fliers covering vast
distances in search of food.
Regards
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