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| Gary |
We've discussed it here many times, but I wanted to make sure: Which
vaccine is the safest? I remember making a point to remember that the
safest one had a "Pur" ("Pure"?) in the name, but I don't remember for
sure. Also, which is the one(s) that causes reactions?
Thanks,
Gary
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| Lisa The Ferret Haven By the Sea |
>We've discussed it here many times, but I wanted to make sure: Which
>vaccine is the safest?
In ferrets, there is no such thing. In fact in Canada - their was a new study
released in Sept 2003 that says *all* vaccines for ferrets can cause
reactions...including rabies along with the more common CDV vaccination.
>I remember making a point to remember that the
>safest one had a "Pur" ("Pure"?) in the name, but I don't remember for
>sure. Also, which is the one(s) that causes reactions?
IMNSHO, Purevax by Merial is no more safer than FervacD - only that Fervac has
been on the market longer. I have had reactions with both vaccines - but
continue to use Fervac because Merial will not sell to anyone other than vet
clinics and the flat of vaccines costs more than twice what Fervac does ($40 vs
$17).
Reactions to Imrab-3 have also been reported.
Safest bet: wait 30-45 minutes at the vet after vaccination.
Lisa Leidig, Head Ferret
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| Celtic Ferret |
The local philosphy runs a bit differently. Here goes. First choice is
Fervac D, due to price. (as already mentioned). If you get a reaction to
Fervac D, switch to Merial Purevax.
I'm told,can't find a citation, that says once you've used Purevax you can't
go back to any other vaccination. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Our local vet uses Merial Purevax only. He will sell it to locals for
$60/bx.
If you only have one or two ferrets, the cost of going to the vet isn't too
steep to pay. If you have 10 or more ferrets at home, then all you start
buying your own vaccines and adminsering them.
Locally, rabies shots must be done by a vet, and a license issued. You
actually can purchase rabies vaccines and do it yourself.
KG
"Lisa The Ferret Haven By the Sea" <fhbythesea@aol.comferts4me> wrote in
message news:20031007104319.25752.00000437@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >We've discussed it here many times, but I wanted to make sure: Which
> >vaccine is the safest?
>
> In ferrets, there is no such thing. In fact in Canada - their was a new
study
> released in Sept 2003 that says *all* vaccines for ferrets can cause
> reactions...including rabies along with the more common CDV vaccination.
>
> >I remember making a point to remember that the
> >safest one had a "Pur" ("Pure"?) in the name, but I don't remember for
> >sure. Also, which is the one(s) that causes reactions?
>
> IMNSHO, Purevax by Merial is no more safer than FervacD - only that Fervac
has
> been on the market longer. I have had reactions with both vaccines - but
> continue to use Fervac because Merial will not sell to anyone other than
vet
> clinics and the flat of vaccines costs more than twice what Fervac does
($40 vs
> $17).
>
> Reactions to Imrab-3 have also been reported.
>
> Safest bet: wait 30-45 minutes at the vet after vaccination.
>
>
> Lisa Leidig, Head Ferret
> The Ferret Haven "By-the-Sea"
> http: www.ferrethaven.org
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| Tom Jones |
judging from a previous discussion on this topic; i came to the conclusion
that if your kids live inside all the time, there is no need to risk any
vaccine.....is this incorrect?
Gadget, Little Penny, Boris & Natasha
db
"Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F82C5DB.DF9D6316@vcn.com...
> We've discussed it here many times, but I wanted to make sure: Which
> vaccine is the safest? I remember making a point to remember that the
> safest one had a "Pur" ("Pure"?) in the name, but I don't remember for
> sure. Also, which is the one(s) that causes reactions?
>
> Thanks,
> Gary
>
>
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| Bill Leary |
"Tom Jones" <swede652@cox.net> wrote in message
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> judging from a previous discussion on this topic; i came to the conclusion
> that if your kids live inside all the time, there is no need to risk any
> vaccine.....is this incorrect?
When I asked our vet the same question she said that (1) if they never go
outdoors and (2) never encounter any animals who DO go outdoors it would be
probably be safe not to vaccinate.
In our case ours do go outdoors several times a year, and our dogs go out
three or four times a day, and one of our cats spends most of her time
outdoors.
Still, the risks are relative. Minya had a near death reaction to her last
vaccination and won't get one again. The decision was based on all of the
above factors plus her age (over six) and how bad the reaction was (very).
- Bill
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| Jim Higgins |
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 23:27:44 GMT, in
<QZHgb.304$Lz6.140@news1.central.cox.net>, "Tom Jones"
<swede652@cox.net> wrote:
>judging from a previous discussion on this topic; i came to the conclusion
>that if your kids live inside all the time, there is no need to risk any
>vaccine.....is this incorrect?
Yes, it is incorrect. Canine distemper can be brought in on your
shoes and clothes by means as simple as walking thru a friend's
home whose animal is infected, thru any area where an infected
animal has passed recently. Your children, if you have any, may
play with an infected animal and bring home the virus. A
visiting friend can bring it in. CDV is highly contagious,
fatal, and an ugly way to die. Rabies is far less likely to find
its way to a ferret inside all the time, but without current
rabies protection, if your ferret happens to bite someone who
reports the bite, your ferret could be seized and sacrificed
(read that as "killed" and its head cut off) so it's brain can be
examined for rabies. The likelihood of this happening in the
case of a reported bite varies with your state laws. Get your
ferrets immunized.
--
Jim Higgins, quasimodo AT yahoo DOT com
icbm: 33.55.34N, 80.24.21W
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| Lin |
"Bill Leary" <Bill_Leary@msn.com> wrote in message
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> "Tom Jones" <swede652@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:QZHgb.304$Lz6.140@news1.central.cox.net...
> > judging from a previous discussion on this topic; i came to the
conclusion
> > that if your kids live inside all the time, there is no need to risk any
> > vaccine.....is this incorrect?
>
> When I asked our vet the same question she said that (1) if they never go
> outdoors and (2) never encounter any animals who DO go outdoors it would
be
> probably be safe not to vaccinate.
>
> In our case ours do go outdoors several times a year, and our dogs go out
> three or four times a day, and one of our cats spends most of her time
> outdoors.
>
> Still, the risks are relative. Minya had a near death reaction to her
last
> vaccination and won't get one again. The decision was based on all of the
> above factors plus her age (over six) and how bad the reaction was (very).
Read Jean Caputo-Lee's article in the last (not the current) issue of
Ferrets Mag, about how she had a serious distemper outbreak at Ferrets
Unlimited. She still doesn't know if the virus came in on a ferret (which
she doubts, as the ferrets who died got sick waaay after the time they
should have, had they came into the shelter w/ the infection), or a human
who had contact w/ an infected animal before coming into the shelter. It
could even have been her. As I understand it, distemper is an airborne
virus, & you don't need direct exposure to an infected animal to get it.
My fuzzies don't go outside, & they get their yrly shots. Distemper is a
horrible way for a ferret to die.
JMO,
Lin, Ariel, Oberon, & Max
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| Gary |
Celtic, Ferret, nospam'voyager.net> wrote:
> The local philosphy runs a bit differently. Here goes. First choice is
> Fervac D, due to price. (as already mentioned). If you get a reaction to
> Fervac D, switch to Merial Purevax.
>
> I'm told,can't find a citation, that says once you've used Purevax you can't
> go back to any other vaccination. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Our local vet uses Merial Purevax only. He will sell it to locals for
> $60/bx.
>
> If you only have one or two ferrets, the cost of going to the vet isn't too
> steep to pay. If you have 10 or more ferrets at home, then all you start
> buying your own vaccines and adminsering them.
>
> Locally, rabies shots must be done by a vet, and a license issued. You
> actually can purchase rabies vaccines and do it yourself.
>
> KG
From what I have always heard, at least in the states, is that the only shot a
consumer can't give is the rabies. I've encountered that a number of times, and
even had vets tell me that *they* must give the rabies shot. Other than that,
the rest of the shots can be purchased and given by the consumer. That's what I
found with my cats the last round of their shots (which my sister gave, all but
the rabies). Since a certified tag accompanies the rabies shot, it makes sense
that the consumer is not equipped to handle all the associated red tape that
goes along with them.
That makes sense about the quantity thing; once you reach ten or so, I'm sure
the financial aspect comes into play.
Gary
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| Gary |
Tom Jones wrote:
> judging from a previous discussion on this topic; i came to the conclusion
> that if your kids live inside all the time, there is no need to risk any
> vaccine.....is this incorrect?
>
> Gadget, Little Penny, Boris & Natasha
>
> db
Some feel that way, but there ARE diseases that can be brought in that there's
no prevention for other than vaccination. Mine don't go anywhere, either, and
I'd like to have them vaccinated against what they can get by tracking it in,
but at the same time, I don't want them dying from the vaccine itself, either.
It's 6 to 1 - half a dozen to the other.
Gary
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| Bill Leary |
"Lin" <ktnil@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Read Jean Caputo-Lee's article in the last (not the current) issue of
> ((..omitted..))
I haven't seen that particular article, but have read ones which make
similar observation.
> As I understand it, distemper is an airborne
> virus, & you don't need direct exposure to an infected animal to get it.
My understanding as well.
> My fuzzies don't go outside, & they get their yrly shots. Distemper is a
> horrible way for a ferret to die.
My others do and will, at least until or unless the risk tips the tables the
other way for one of them.
Now that I think of it, I forgot that one element in the decision for Minya
is that she's getting rather frail. The probability of the reaction killing
her seems quite a bit higher than the probability she'll catch the disease.
In fact, she's going for testing today relative to insulnoma, but surgery
has already been ruled out because it's expected she wouldn't survive it.
If it's that, we're going to have to treat it as best we can other ways.
- Bill
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| Russell Prater |
Gary wrote:
>
> We've discussed it here many times, but I wanted to make sure: Which
> vaccine is the safest? I remember making a point to remember that the
> safest one had a "Pur" ("Pure"?) in the name, but I don't remember for
> sure. Also, which is the one(s) that causes reactions?
There are 3 distemper vaccines that are commonly used on ferrets. Fervac
D is USDA approved but causes a number of reactions. Galaxy D is not
approved but is used by many vets. I haven't heard much about reactions
with it. The newest is Merial's Purevac ferret distemper vaccine and so
far, it has the lowest reaction rate.
--
Russ, Booger, Bonnie & Clyde
russellprater@worldnet.att.net
URA Redneck if your passenger side window is a Hefty Bag.
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| Lisa The Ferret Haven By the Sea |
>Some feel that way, but there ARE diseases that can be brought in that
>there's
>no prevention for other than vaccination. Mine don't go anywhere, either, and
>I'd like to have them vaccinated against what they can get by tracking it in,
>but at the same time, I don't want them dying from the vaccine itself,
>either.
>It's 6 to 1 - half a dozen to the other.
>
>Gary
>
The biggest difference here is that if the ferret is exposed to CDV, it *will*
die. If it has a vaccination against CDV, it *may* react....to me, it is very
clear: regular vaccinations are a must.
I will also say that the new theory about we are over vaccinating our pets was
seriously debunked at this last symposium. Seems that the whole theory was
based on *ONE* study in 1998 with 15 vax cats, 17 unvax..all exposed to
Panleukemia (aka feline distemper) and no disease in any cats (3 year post
vax)! That is in my mind a very faulty study...
Another 1998 Cornell study showed dogs 2 years post vax did not have
appropriate titers for protection against cdv/parvo - but yet everyone is
following the 3 year protocol based on an extremely flawed study!
This information was from Dr. Kemmerer and expounded upon in detail. I was
fascinated.
ya shoulda been there.
Lisa Leidig, Head Ferret
The Ferret Haven "By-the-Sea"
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| Melissa |
In article <4cp6ov8bsq53jjria65j0dlir5os71hgoo@4ax.com>,
Jim Higgins <UseAddressBelow@pandora.orbl.org> wrote:
> if your ferret happens to bite someone who
> reports the bite, your ferret could be seized and sacrificed
> (read that as "killed" and its head cut off) so it's brain can be
> examined for rabies. The likelihood of this happening in the
> case of a reported bite varies with your state laws.
I just wanted to elaborate on this. The key words here are "reported
bite". Your ferret doesn't have to actually bite someone for this to
happen. All someone has to do is *say* that it did and authorities can
show up at your door and take it away (even if ferrets are 100% legal
where you live!). In many states, proof of your ferret being vaccinated
against rabies can result in your ferret being observed for 10 days
rather then being instantly killed. THAT'S the reason to get the rabies
vaccination for your ferret. Having your ferret vaccinated against
rabies has always been about protecting your ferret from *people*, not
really rabies.
-Melissa
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| Elaine Schmeck |
"Russell Prater" <russellprater@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> There are 3 distemper vaccines that are commonly used on ferrets. Fervac
> D is USDA approved but causes a number of reactions. Galaxy D is not
> approved but is used by many vets. I haven't heard much about reactions
> with it. The newest is Merial's Purevac ferret distemper vaccine and so
> far, it has the lowest reaction rate.
>
> --
> Russ, Booger, Bonnie & Clyde
> russellprater@worldnet.att.net
>
> URA Redneck if your passenger side window is a Hefty Bag.
I have one on Fervac D and one (the little guy with the big reaction to
Fervac) back on Galaxy D. I may talk to the new vet (new since I moved) and
see about Purevac for both. I'll bring it up for their next shots.
elaine
*snoozing duo
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| Gary |
Russell Prater wrote:
> Gary wrote:
> >
> > We've discussed it here many times, but I wanted to make sure: Which
> > vaccine is the safest? I remember making a point to remember that the
> > safest one had a "Pur" ("Pure"?) in the name, but I don't remember for
> > sure. Also, which is the one(s) that causes reactions?
>
> There are 3 distemper vaccines that are commonly used on ferrets. Fervac
> D is USDA approved but causes a number of reactions. Galaxy D is not
> approved but is used by many vets. I haven't heard much about reactions
> with it. The newest is Merial's Purevac ferret distemper vaccine and so
> far, it has the lowest reaction rate.
>
> --
> Russ, Booger, Bonnie & Clyde
> russellprater@worldnet.att.net
>
> URA Redneck if your passenger side window is a Hefty Bag.
Thanks much. I thought the safest one had a "Pure" in the name.
Gary
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| Gary |
Melissa wrote:
> In article <4cp6ov8bsq53jjria65j0dlir5os71hgoo@4ax.com>,
> Jim Higgins <UseAddressBelow@pandora.orbl.org> wrote:
>
> > if your ferret happens to bite someone who
> > reports the bite, your ferret could be seized and sacrificed
> > (read that as "killed" and its head cut off) so it's brain can be
> > examined for rabies. The likelihood of this happening in the
> > case of a reported bite varies with your state laws.
>
> I just wanted to elaborate on this. The key words here are "reported
> bite". Your ferret doesn't have to actually bite someone for this to
> happen. All someone has to do is *say* that it did and authorities can
> show up at your door and take it away (even if ferrets are 100% legal
> where you live!). In many states, proof of your ferret being vaccinated
> against rabies can result in your ferret being observed for 10 days
> rather then being instantly killed. THAT'S the reason to get the rabies
> vaccination for your ferret. Having your ferret vaccinated against
> rabies has always been about protecting your ferret from *people*, not
> really rabies.
>
> -Melissa
It sounds like a person needs liable insurance more than the vaccine!
Gary
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| Gary |
Russell Prater wrote:
> Gary wrote:
> >
> > We've discussed it here many times, but I wanted to make sure: Which
> > vaccine is the safest? I remember making a point to remember that the
> > safest one had a "Pur" ("Pure"?) in the name, but I don't remember for
> > sure. Also, which is the one(s) that causes reactions?
>
> There are 3 distemper vaccines that are commonly used on ferrets. Fervac
> D is USDA approved but causes a number of reactions. Galaxy D is not
> approved but is used by many vets. I haven't heard much about reactions
> with it. The newest is Merial's Purevac ferret distemper vaccine and so
> far, it has the lowest reaction rate.
>
> --
> Russ, Booger, Bonnie & Clyde
> russellprater@worldnet.att.net
>
> URA Redneck if your passenger side window is a Hefty Bag.
Now, can these be given in half doses?
Gary
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| Jim Higgins |
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 06:05:12 -0600, in
<3F854EF8.D77A823E@vcn.com>, Gary <schooley@vcn.com> wrote:
>Melissa wrote:
>
>> In article <4cp6ov8bsq53jjria65j0dlir5os71hgoo@4ax.com>,
>> Jim Higgins <UseAddressBelow@pandora.orbl.org> wrote:
>>
>> > if your ferret happens to bite someone who
>> > reports the bite, your ferret could be seized and sacrificed
>> > (read that as "killed" and its head cut off) so it's brain can be
>> > examined for rabies. The likelihood of this happening in the
>> > case of a reported bite varies with your state laws.
>>
>> I just wanted to elaborate on this. The key words here are "reported
>> bite". Your ferret doesn't have to actually bite someone for this to
>> happen. All someone has to do is *say* that it did and authorities can
>> show up at your door and take it away (even if ferrets are 100% legal
>> where you live!). In many states, proof of your ferret being vaccinated
>> against rabies can result in your ferret being observed for 10 days
>> rather then being instantly killed. THAT'S the reason to get the rabies
>> vaccination for your ferret. Having your ferret vaccinated against
>> rabies has always been about protecting your ferret from *people*, not
>> really rabies.
>>
>> -Melissa
>
>It sounds like a person needs liable insurance more than the vaccine!
It's covered under a typical homeowners policy.
--
Jim Higgins, quasimodo AT yahoo DOT com
icbm: 33.55.34N, 80.24.21W
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| Lisa The Ferret Haven By the Sea |
>Now, can these be given in half doses?
>
The simple answer is: NO.
Vaccines are made to be given in the appropriate dose to trigger the body into
an immune response to protect against the virus..the only thing a half dose
will do is lull the owner into a false sense of security that their ferret is
protected.
Get the vaccinations done. There are clinics that offer low cost for those that
have difficulty paying the bill...but you are playing with fire..all it takes
is one accidental exposure and your ferrets will pay the price.
Lisa Leidig, Head Ferret
The Ferret Haven "By-the-Sea"
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| Russell Prater |
Gary wrote:
> Now, can these be given in half doses?
>
> Gary
I guess you could, but I wouldn't. The manufacturer sets the dose at
what is proven to produce provide immunity. A half dose might not
provide adequate immunity to protect your animal.
--
Russ, Booger, Bonnie & Clyde
russellprater@worldnet.att.net
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| Celtic Ferret |
Find a cheap way to get you vaccines. If you live near a breeder or shelter
ask if they would give the shots for a small donation to the shelter. It's
already been suggested you call around and find clinic days.
KG
"Russell Prater" <russellprater@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Gary wrote:
>
> > Now, can these be given in half doses?
> >
> > Gary
>
> I guess you could, but I wouldn't. The manufacturer sets the dose at
> what is proven to produce provide immunity. A half dose might not
> provide adequate immunity to protect your animal.
>
> --
> Russ, Booger, Bonnie & Clyde
> russellprater@worldnet.att.net
>
> URA Redneck if your bar tab always equals your pay check.
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| Lin |
"Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F854EF8.D77A823E@vcn.com...
> Melissa wrote:
>
> > In article <4cp6ov8bsq53jjria65j0dlir5os71hgoo@4ax.com>,
> > Jim Higgins <UseAddressBelow@pandora.orbl.org> wrote:
> >
> > > if your ferret happens to bite someone who
> > > reports the bite, your ferret could be seized and sacrificed
> > > (read that as "killed" and its head cut off) so it's brain can be
> > > examined for rabies. The likelihood of this happening in the
> > > case of a reported bite varies with your state laws.
> >
> > I just wanted to elaborate on this. The key words here are "reported
> > bite". Your ferret doesn't have to actually bite someone for this to
> > happen. All someone has to do is *say* that it did and authorities can
> > show up at your door and take it away (even if ferrets are 100% legal
> > where you live!). In many states, proof of your ferret being vaccinated
> > against rabies can result in your ferret being observed for 10 days
> > rather then being instantly killed. THAT'S the reason to get the rabies
> > vaccination for your ferret. Having your ferret vaccinated against
> > rabies has always been about protecting your ferret from *people*, not
> > really rabies.
> >
> > -Melissa
>
> It sounds like a person needs liable insurance more than the vaccine!
Nope - every vet gives out a rabies certificate when the animal is
vaccinated. That's insurance enough. They *don't* give you a certificate for
the distemper vaccination, but it's listed on the bill we receive, along w/
the rabies certificate, & we keep them together. Oberon just had his yrly
shots yesterday, & his current rabies certificate, along w/ a copy of the
bill saying he also received his distemper, is now in our "veterinary" file.
Lin, Ariel, Oberon, & Max
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| Gary |
Russell Prater wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>
> > Now, can these be given in half doses?
> >
> > Gary
>
> I guess you could, but I wouldn't. The manufacturer sets the dose at
> what is proven to produce provide immunity. A half dose might not
> provide adequate immunity to protect your animal.
>
> --
> Russ, Booger, Bonnie & Clyde
> russellprater@worldnet.att.net
>
> URA Redneck if your bar tab always equals your pay check.
Well, maybe it's something else I'm thinking of. I know there's
*something* that my cat reacted to that can be given in half doses to
avoid the reaction.
Gary
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| Gary |
Celtic, Ferret, nospam'voyager.net> wrote:
> Find a cheap way to get you vaccines. If you live near a breeder or shelter
> ask if they would give the shots for a small donation to the shelter. It's
> already been suggested you call around and find clinic days.
>
> KG
>
> "Russell Prater" <russellprater@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:3F858714.B9B00415@worldnet.att.net...
> > Gary wrote:
> >
> > > Now, can these be given in half doses?
> > >
> > > Gary
> >
> > I guess you could, but I wouldn't. The manufacturer sets the dose at
> > what is proven to produce provide immunity. A half dose might not
> > provide adequate immunity to protect your animal.
> >
> > --
> > Russ, Booger, Bonnie & Clyde
> > russellprater@worldnet.att.net
> >
> > URA Redneck if your bar tab always equals your pay check.
There is only one ferret vet here and no ferret shelters at all. Remember, this
is Cheyenne, Wyoming - very primitive and behind the times.
Gary
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| Gary |
Lin wrote:
> "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F854EF8.D77A823E@vcn.com...
> > Melissa wrote:
> >
> > > In article <4cp6ov8bsq53jjria65j0dlir5os71hgoo@4ax.com>,
> > > Jim Higgins <UseAddressBelow@pandora.orbl.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > if your ferret happens to bite someone who
> > > > reports the bite, your ferret could be seized and sacrificed
> > > > (read that as "killed" and its head cut off) so it's brain can be
> > > > examined for rabies. The likelihood of this happening in the
> > > > case of a reported bite varies with your state laws.
> > >
> > > I just wanted to elaborate on this. The key words here are "reported
> > > bite". Your ferret doesn't have to actually bite someone for this to
> > > happen. All someone has to do is *say* that it did and authorities can
> > > show up at your door and take it away (even if ferrets are 100% legal
> > > where you live!). In many states, proof of your ferret being vaccinated
> > > against rabies can result in your ferret being observed for 10 days
> > > rather then being instantly killed. THAT'S the reason to get the rabies
> > > vaccination for your ferret. Having your ferret vaccinated against
> > > rabies has always been about protecting your ferret from *people*, not
> > > really rabies.
> > >
> > > -Melissa
> >
> > It sounds like a person needs liable insurance more than the vaccine!
>
> Nope - every vet gives out a rabies certificate when the animal is
> vaccinated. That's insurance enough. They *don't* give you a certificate for
> the distemper vaccination, but it's listed on the bill we receive, along w/
> the rabies certificate, & we keep them together. Oberon just had his yrly
> shots yesterday, & his current rabies certificate, along w/ a copy of the
> bill saying he also received his distemper, is now in our "veterinary" file.
>
> Lin, Ariel, Oberon, & Max
Yes, I have a file for my cats and everything goes in there, even medicine
wrappers.
Gary
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| Kim Rushing |
"Lisa The Ferret Haven By the Sea" <fhbythesea@aol.comferts4me> wrote
> Get the vaccinations done. There are clinics that offer low cost for those
that
> have difficulty paying the bill...but you are playing with fire..all it
takes
> is one accidental exposure and your ferrets will pay the price.
Amen Lisa. I know where I work, the charge would be $76.00 for both ferrets
to have full examinations, and distemper vaccinations. A small price to pay
when you consider the alternative.
kim
hoping that my new newserver actually works
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| Lisa The Ferret Haven By the Sea |
>There is only one ferret vet here and no ferret shelters at all. Remember,
>this
>is Cheyenne, Wyoming - very primitive and behind the times.
>
Buy your own vaccines and needles then - from United, a flat of 10 costs $17;
overnight shipping will cost about $25 and a gross of 25g needles will run you
about $15..
Lisa Leidig, Head Ferret
The Ferret Haven "By-the-Sea"
http: www.ferrethaven.org
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| Lisa The Ferret Haven By the Sea |
>Well, maybe it's something else I'm thinking of. I know there's
>*something* that my cat reacted to that can be given in half doses to
>avoid the reaction.
>
I will quote for you something that Dr. Bruce Williams says quite often: "Do
not extrapolate any information about dogs and cats and apply it to ferrets.."
Which means that things that can apply to cats and dogs, may not be applied to
ferrets...case in point: Mast cell tumors. Malignant in dogs, benign in
ferrets.
I would be interested to see what the manufacturer of that cat vaccine has to
say about using off-label instructions like cutting the dose in half.
Lisa Leidig, Head Ferret
The Ferret Haven "By-the-Sea"
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| Gary |
Lisa The Ferret Haven By the Sea wrote:
> >Well, maybe it's something else I'm thinking of. I know there's
> >*something* that my cat reacted to that can be given in half doses to
> >avoid the reaction.
> >
>
> I will quote for you something that Dr. Bruce Williams says quite often: "Do
> not extrapolate any information about dogs and cats and apply it to ferrets.."
> Which means that things that can apply to cats and dogs, may not be applied to
> ferrets...case in point: Mast cell tumors. Malignant in dogs, benign in
> ferrets.
Interesting; good point.
> I would be interested to see what the manufacturer of that cat vaccine has to
> say about using off-label instructions like cutting the dose in half.
If you want, I can type it out for you; I saved the label right in the cat's file.
What's weird is that Lectris reacted to it, but Troni did not. I think it was
because Lectris had had it before, but Troni hadn't.
Gary
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| Jim Higgins |
On 10 Oct 2003 11:31:25 GMT, in
<20031010073125.15839.00000503@mb-m13.aol.com>,
fhbythesea@aol.comferts4me (Lisa The Ferret Haven By the Sea)
wrote:
>>There is only one ferret vet here and no ferret shelters at all. Remember,
>>this
>>is Cheyenne, Wyoming - very primitive and behind the times.
>>
>
>Buy your own vaccines and needles then - from United, a flat of 10 costs $17;
>overnight shipping will cost about $25 and a gross of 25g needles will run you
>about $15..
For two ferrets? You can get individual 2 - 3 cc syringes, with
needles, at your local pharmacy for about $0.50. No need to buy
50-years worth.
--
Jim Higgins, quasimodo AT yahoo DOT com
icbm: 33.55.34N, 80.24.21W
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| swamp |
On 10 Oct 2003 11:31:25 GMT, fhbythesea@aol.comferts4me (Lisa The
Ferret Haven By the Sea) wrote:
>>There is only one ferret vet here and no ferret shelters at all. Remember,
>>this
>>is Cheyenne, Wyoming - very primitive and behind the times.
>>
>
>Buy your own vaccines and needles then - from United, a flat of 10 costs $17;
>overnight shipping will cost about $25 and a gross of 25g needles will run you
>about $15..
Several concerns, foremost being one's ability to handle reactions.
Knowing the benadryl/adrenaline routine isn't as good as having a vet
around, even in Cheyenne. Second, packages can sit in the sun/heat for
hours before you get home. Not a problem for Gary this time of year,
but a year-round worry in SoCal. Does United ship the Fervac in dry
ice? Lastly, how long does it keep in the fridge? My vet charges $20 a
pop for CDV 'nocs, so I don't see home administration as
cost-effective w/ less than 5 ferrets.
imo,
>Lisa Leidig, Head Ferret
>The Ferret Haven "By-the-Sea"
swamp
"Who, me officer? What's a ferut? These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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