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| Gary |
When I mentioned that maybe there should be a bounty on reporting
hoarders, like Di Bachman, and others who caused recent rescues to be
needed, someone agreed with that idea.
So, I am wondering how such a thing might work? How much money would the
reward be for reporting such conditions? What would be the definition of
a "hoarder"? Etc.?
Naturally, it could not apply to just anyone who has a lot of ferrets,
as many have large numbers of ferrets but take excellent care of them.
So, there would have to be some form of accurate definition of who /
what qualifies for reporting (and getting the reward).
I think it would hinge more on sad living conditions (neglect) than on
numbers. But, OTOH, there are neglected ferrets that number just a few,
too. Such a bounty obviously couldn't apply to just any neglect
situation. So, there would have to be some substantial number involved.
Anyway, I'm just speculating on how something like that would work (if
at all).
Gary, Bart and Victoria
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| Celtic Ferret |
Probably not. Every person with more than 2 or 3 ferrets could be consider
a hoader. I have 18. Am I a hoarder. I have 18 ferrets spread out over 6
cages and 2 large playpens. Some go in the playpen, some get free roam of
the hosue. Just depends on who is home and what other animals are out.
Ferrets and dogs and ferrets and skunk do just fine. Ferrets and mink very
bad idea.
KG
"Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F7827F9.61D76AD0@vcn.com...
> When I mentioned that maybe there should be a bounty on reporting
> hoarders, like Di Bachman, and others who caused recent rescues to be
> needed, someone agreed with that idea.
>
> So, I am wondering how such a thing might work? How much money would the
> reward be for reporting such conditions? What would be the definition of
> a "hoarder"? Etc.?
>
> Naturally, it could not apply to just anyone who has a lot of ferrets,
> as many have large numbers of ferrets but take excellent care of them.
> So, there would have to be some form of accurate definition of who /
> what qualifies for reporting (and getting the reward).
>
> I think it would hinge more on sad living conditions (neglect) than on
> numbers. But, OTOH, there are neglected ferrets that number just a few,
> too. Such a bounty obviously couldn't apply to just any neglect
> situation. So, there would have to be some substantial number involved.
>
> Anyway, I'm just speculating on how something like that would work (if
> at all).
>
> Gary, Bart and Victoria
>
>
>
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| Gary |
Celtic, Ferret, nospam'voyager.net> wrote:
> Probably not. Every person with more than 2 or 3 ferrets could be consider
> a hoader. I have 18. Am I a hoarder. I have 18 ferrets spread out over 6
> cages and 2 large playpens. Some go in the playpen, some get free roam of
> the hosue. Just depends on who is home and what other animals are out.
> Ferrets and dogs and ferrets and skunk do just fine. Ferrets and mink very
> bad idea.
>
> KG
That's what I said - it couldn't depend on numbers alone, as many people have
many ferrets and take excellent care of them.
But, I am wondering if a bounty would encourage more people to report squalid
conditions?
Gary
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| Celtic Ferret |
"Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F782DDA.1FEB510@vcn.com...
> Celtic, Ferret, nospam'voyager.net> wrote:
>
> > Probably not. Every person with more than 2 or 3 ferrets could be
consider
> > a hoader. I have 18. Am I a hoarder. I have 18 ferrets spread out
over 6
> > cages and 2 large playpens. Some go in the playpen, some get free roam
of
> > the hosue. Just depends on who is home and what other animals are out.
> > Ferrets and dogs and ferrets and skunk do just fine. Ferrets and mink
very
> > bad idea.
> >
> > KG
>
> That's what I said - it couldn't depend on numbers alone, as many people
have
> many ferrets and take excellent care of them.
>
> But, I am wondering if a bounty would encourage more people to report
squalid
> conditions?
>
> Gary
>
I still think people would report anyone in hopes of either making their
life miserable or collecting money.
We have 2 local breeders in high double digits and low triple digits. I
know for a fact their ferret rooms are so clean you can eat off the floor
and find it cleaner than my kitchen table.
KG
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| Jason and Holly Harper |
I'm not really sure that would work, Gary. The reason I say that is because
I'm not so sure that hoarders invite people into their homes and the ones
they do invite in are likely to be hoarders/byb too. So my guess is that it
would still go unreported. And where would the money come from? I'm not
sure that the ferret community can afford a bounty hunter when most of our
money is going to rescue these babies. Plus I'm sure there's people out
there that would report someone just for spite. :( All in all a bounty
hunter is not a bad idea, but there are a lot of things that would have to
be ironed out.
Holly
"Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F7827F9.61D76AD0@vcn.com...
> When I mentioned that maybe there should be a bounty on reporting
> hoarders, like Di Bachman, and others who caused recent rescues to be
> needed, someone agreed with that idea.
>
> So, I am wondering how such a thing might work? How much money would the
> reward be for reporting such conditions? What would be the definition of
> a "hoarder"? Etc.?
>
> Naturally, it could not apply to just anyone who has a lot of ferrets,
> as many have large numbers of ferrets but take excellent care of them.
> So, there would have to be some form of accurate definition of who /
> what qualifies for reporting (and getting the reward).
>
> I think it would hinge more on sad living conditions (neglect) than on
> numbers. But, OTOH, there are neglected ferrets that number just a few,
> too. Such a bounty obviously couldn't apply to just any neglect
> situation. So, there would have to be some substantial number involved.
>
> Anyway, I'm just speculating on how something like that would work (if
> at all).
>
> Gary, Bart and Victoria
>
>
>
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| oldmolly |
"Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F7827F9.61D76AD0@vcn.com...
> When I mentioned that maybe there should be a bounty on reporting
> hoarders, like Di Bachman, and others who caused recent rescues to be
> needed, someone agreed with that idea.
>
> So, I am wondering how such a thing might work? How much money would the
> reward be for reporting such conditions? What would be the definition of
> a "hoarder"? Etc.?
>
> Naturally, it could not apply to just anyone who has a lot of ferrets,
> as many have large numbers of ferrets but take excellent care of them.
> So, there would have to be some form of accurate definition of who /
> what qualifies for reporting (and getting the reward).
>
> I think it would hinge more on sad living conditions (neglect) than on
> numbers. But, OTOH, there are neglected ferrets that number just a few,
> too. Such a bounty obviously couldn't apply to just any neglect
> situation. So, there would have to be some substantial number involved.
>
> Anyway, I'm just speculating on how something like that would work (if
> at all).
>
I dislike this sort of sneakiness which can cause no end of problems for
someone by someone with a grudge reporting them . Why report only people
with lots of ferrets. I personally think that to mistreat a single ferret is
worthy of reporting.
Personally I dislike tittle tattlers and finger pointers. Animal abuse
happens all over the world, to all species of animals. There is no need for
anyone to snoop and finger point and yell "abuser",and feel smug about it.
Simply and quietly report the situation to the relevant authorities and
leave it to them.
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| oldmolly |
"Celtic Ferret" <katgall@"nospam'voyager.net> wrote in message
news:vngbmhmgoa4nb0@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message
news:3F782DDA.1FEB510@vcn.com...
> > Celtic, Ferret, nospam'voyager.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Probably not. Every person with more than 2 or 3 ferrets could be
> consider
> > > a hoader. I have 18. Am I a hoarder. I have 18 ferrets spread out
> over 6
> > > cages and 2 large playpens. Some go in the playpen, some get free
roam
> of
> > > the hosue. Just depends on who is home and what other animals are
out.
> > > Ferrets and dogs and ferrets and skunk do just fine. Ferrets and mink
> very
> > > bad idea.
> > >
> > > KG
> >
> > That's what I said - it couldn't depend on numbers alone, as many people
> have
> > many ferrets and take excellent care of them.
> >
> > But, I am wondering if a bounty would encourage more people to report
> squalid
> > conditions?
> >
> > Gary
> >
> I still think people would report anyone in hopes of either making their
> life miserable or collecting money.
>
> We have 2 local breeders in high double digits and low triple digits. I
> know for a fact their ferret rooms are so clean you can eat off the floor
> and find it cleaner than my kitchen table.
>
I agree totally about the finger pointing in the hope of making a few quid.
Also , how would you know how the ferrets were kept? If you meet someone and
in conversation, find out that they keep say 20 ferrets, how do you know
*what* conditions they are kept in?
To look at how a person dresses is no indication as I am more often than
not a right scruffy cow. I don't care how I look, don't wear make up, pull
on the first clean thing which falls out of my cupboard at me, rarely iron
my clothes, unless I plan to go out somewhere in public, and even then might
forget to get changed. So go on Gary, tell me how you personally would be
able to tell if a person was looking after their ferrets properly?
If I told you that I have 2 pigs which live indoors, would *that* make me
a sloppy or dirty ferret keeper? I do as it happens, and I am not.
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| Jim Higgins |
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:39:21 -0600, in
<3F7827F9.61D76AD0@vcn.com>, Gary <schooley@vcn.com> wrote:
>When I mentioned that maybe there should be a bounty on reporting
>hoarders, like Di Bachman, and others who caused recent rescues to be
>needed, someone agreed with that idea.
>
>So, I am wondering how such a thing might work? How much money would the
>reward be for reporting such conditions? What would be the definition of
>a "hoarder"? Etc.?
>
>Naturally, it could not apply to just anyone who has a lot of ferrets,
>as many have large numbers of ferrets but take excellent care of them.
>So, there would have to be some form of accurate definition of who /
>what qualifies for reporting (and getting the reward).
>
>I think it would hinge more on sad living conditions (neglect) than on
>numbers. But, OTOH, there are neglected ferrets that number just a few,
>too. Such a bounty obviously couldn't apply to just any neglect
>situation. So, there would have to be some substantial number involved.
>
>Anyway, I'm just speculating on how something like that would work (if
>at all).
Should I take it you've already lined up the funding? ;-)
--
Jim Higgins, quasimodo AT yahoo DOT com
icbm: 33.55.34N, 80.24.21W
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| Melissa Smith |
> But, I am wondering if a bounty would encourage more people to report
squalid
> conditions?
Would you trust a person who needed MONEY to make them want to report
neglent conditions?
I sure wouldn't.
Mel
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| Cap |
Too much room for abuse. I don't think so. I have 28 now, and have already
been accused of such bull****. I promise anyone coming around here pushing
such crap is going to spend far more time in physical therapy than I'll ever
spend in jail.
"Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F7827F9.61D76AD0@vcn.com...
> When I mentioned that maybe there should be a bounty on reporting
> hoarders, like Di Bachman, and others who caused recent rescues to be
> needed, someone agreed with that idea.
>
> So, I am wondering how such a thing might work? How much money would the
> reward be for reporting such conditions? What would be the definition of
> a "hoarder"? Etc.?
>
> Naturally, it could not apply to just anyone who has a lot of ferrets,
> as many have large numbers of ferrets but take excellent care of them.
> So, there would have to be some form of accurate definition of who /
> what qualifies for reporting (and getting the reward).
>
> I think it would hinge more on sad living conditions (neglect) than on
> numbers. But, OTOH, there are neglected ferrets that number just a few,
> too. Such a bounty obviously couldn't apply to just any neglect
> situation. So, there would have to be some substantial number involved.
>
> Anyway, I'm just speculating on how something like that would work (if
> at all).
>
> Gary, Bart and Victoria
>
>
>
>
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| Celtic Ferret |
We have mine and the roommates. The place is clean and everybody has food,
water and playtime. I sure as hell don't want to deal with animal control
coming to visit.
We also have the mink and the skunk. (Yes we have our permits and a vet.)
I still don't want someone coming to deal with those either.
KG
"Cap" <cap383REMOVE@sand-n-sea.us> wrote in message
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> Too much room for abuse. I don't think so. I have 28 now, and have already
> been accused of such bull****. I promise anyone coming around here pushing
> such crap is going to spend far more time in physical therapy than I'll
ever
> spend in jail.
>
> "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message
news:3F7827F9.61D76AD0@vcn.com...
> > When I mentioned that maybe there should be a bounty on reporting
> > hoarders, like Di Bachman, and others who caused recent rescues to be
> > needed, someone agreed with that idea.
> >
> > So, I am wondering how such a thing might work? How much money would the
> > reward be for reporting such conditions? What would be the definition of
> > a "hoarder"? Etc.?
> >
> > Naturally, it could not apply to just anyone who has a lot of ferrets,
> > as many have large numbers of ferrets but take excellent care of them.
> > So, there would have to be some form of accurate definition of who /
> > what qualifies for reporting (and getting the reward).
> >
> > I think it would hinge more on sad living conditions (neglect) than on
> > numbers. But, OTOH, there are neglected ferrets that number just a few,
> > too. Such a bounty obviously couldn't apply to just any neglect
> > situation. So, there would have to be some substantial number involved.
> >
> > Anyway, I'm just speculating on how something like that would work (if
> > at all).
> >
> > Gary, Bart and Victoria
> >
> >
> >
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| Azlin |
Are they those cute pot belly bigs?
Will
> If I told you that I have 2 pigs which live indoors, would *that* make
me
> a sloppy or dirty ferret keeper? I do as it happens, and I am not.
>
>
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| Jason and Holly Harper |
Great point. :)
"Melissa Smith" <melskunk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > But, I am wondering if a bounty would encourage more people to report
> squalid
> > conditions?
>
> Would you trust a person who needed MONEY to make them want to report
> neglent conditions?
> I sure wouldn't.
>
> Mel
>
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| Gary |
Melissa Smith wrote:
> > But, I am wondering if a bounty would encourage more people to report
> squalid
> > conditions?
>
> Would you trust a person who needed MONEY to make them want to report
> neglent conditions?
> I sure wouldn't.
>
> Mel
Good point.
Gary
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| Gary |
Jim Higgins wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:39:21 -0600, in
> <3F7827F9.61D76AD0@vcn.com>, Gary <schooley@vcn.com> wrote:
>
> >When I mentioned that maybe there should be a bounty on reporting
> >hoarders, like Di Bachman, and others who caused recent rescues to be
> >needed, someone agreed with that idea.
> >
> >So, I am wondering how such a thing might work? How much money would the
> >reward be for reporting such conditions? What would be the definition of
> >a "hoarder"? Etc.?
> >
> >Naturally, it could not apply to just anyone who has a lot of ferrets,
> >as many have large numbers of ferrets but take excellent care of them.
> >So, there would have to be some form of accurate definition of who /
> >what qualifies for reporting (and getting the reward).
> >
> >I think it would hinge more on sad living conditions (neglect) than on
> >numbers. But, OTOH, there are neglected ferrets that number just a few,
> >too. Such a bounty obviously couldn't apply to just any neglect
> >situation. So, there would have to be some substantial number involved.
> >
> >Anyway, I'm just speculating on how something like that would work (if
> >at all).
>
> Should I take it you've already lined up the funding? ;-)
Well, that was something that would naturally be part of the main topic - the
amount and source of the reward. I was thinking in the $25 - $50 range;
something that even a single individual could afford. Enough to invoke a
response from anyone who knew of such a need, but not enough to make it hard
to raise.
Another concern would be more than one person reporting the same place. It
would only go to the first one reporting, I think would be fair.
Anyway, it's all just speculation; just something to discuss.
Gary
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| Gary |
oldmolly wrote:
> "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F7827F9.61D76AD0@vcn.com...
> > When I mentioned that maybe there should be a bounty on reporting
> > hoarders, like Di Bachman, and others who caused recent rescues to be
> > needed, someone agreed with that idea.
> >
> > So, I am wondering how such a thing might work? How much money would the
> > reward be for reporting such conditions? What would be the definition of
> > a "hoarder"? Etc.?
> >
> > Naturally, it could not apply to just anyone who has a lot of ferrets,
> > as many have large numbers of ferrets but take excellent care of them.
> > So, there would have to be some form of accurate definition of who /
> > what qualifies for reporting (and getting the reward).
> >
> > I think it would hinge more on sad living conditions (neglect) than on
> > numbers. But, OTOH, there are neglected ferrets that number just a few,
> > too. Such a bounty obviously couldn't apply to just any neglect
> > situation. So, there would have to be some substantial number involved.
> >
> > Anyway, I'm just speculating on how something like that would work (if
> > at all).
> >
> I dislike this sort of sneakiness which can cause no end of problems for
> someone by someone with a grudge reporting them . Why report only people
> with lots of ferrets. I personally think that to mistreat a single ferret is
> worthy of reporting.
True, except hoarders (like Di Bachman) do it for money.
> Personally I dislike tittle tattlers and finger pointers. Animal abuse
> happens all over the world, to all species of animals. There is no need for
> anyone to snoop and finger point and yell "abuser",and feel smug about it.
Who said anyone was going to do anything like that? That's not the way to deal
with it.
> Simply and quietly report the situation to the relevant authorities and
> leave it to them.
That was exactly what I was thinking from the beginning. Why so defensive? You
act as if someone is accusing you of hoarding in life threatening conditions.
Gary
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| Gary |
Jason and Holly Harper wrote:
> I'm not really sure that would work, Gary. The reason I say that is because
> I'm not so sure that hoarders invite people into their homes and the ones
> they do invite in are likely to be hoarders/byb too. So my guess is that it
> would still go unreported.
True. Good point.
> And where would the money come from? I'm not
> sure that the ferret community can afford a bounty hunter when most of our
> money is going to rescue these babies.
No one said anything about hiring anyone to "hunt" anyone. Maybe I should have
used the term "reward", as "bounty" clearly conjures up images of someone
assigned to hunt for them. That's not what I had in mind at all.
If the reward was in the $25 - $50 range, even some single individuals could
afford that (naturally, it would depend on how often it had to be refreshed).
> Plus I'm sure there's people out
> there that would report someone just for spite. :( All in all a bounty
> hunter is not a bad idea, but there are a lot of things that would have to
> be ironed out.
Actually, I hadn't considered a person dedicated to searching them out,
but.......
(Remember, this is (was) only hypothetical speculation) It *would* be
interesting if a large ferret organization did hire a PI for the sole purpose of
searching them out. I wonder what kind of results a pro would come up with?
hmmmm...
Gary
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oldmolly wrote:
> "Celtic Ferret" <katgall@"nospam'voyager.net> wrote in message
> news:vngbmhmgoa4nb0@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message
> news:3F782DDA.1FEB510@vcn.com...
> > > Celtic, Ferret, nospam'voyager.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Probably not. Every person with more than 2 or 3 ferrets could be
> > consider
> > > > a hoader. I have 18. Am I a hoarder. I have 18 ferrets spread out
> > over 6
> > > > cages and 2 large playpens. Some go in the playpen, some get free
> roam
> > of
> > > > the hosue. Just depends on who is home and what other animals are
> out.
> > > > Ferrets and dogs and ferrets and skunk do just fine. Ferrets and mink
> > very
> > > > bad idea.
> > > >
> > > > KG
> > >
> > > That's what I said - it couldn't depend on numbers alone, as many people
> > have
> > > many ferrets and take excellent care of them.
> > >
> > > But, I am wondering if a bounty would encourage more people to report
> > squalid
> > > conditions?
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > I still think people would report anyone in hopes of either making their
> > life miserable or collecting money.
> >
> > We have 2 local breeders in high double digits and low triple digits. I
> > know for a fact their ferret rooms are so clean you can eat off the floor
> > and find it cleaner than my kitchen table.
> >
> I agree totally about the finger pointing in the hope of making a few quid.
> Also , how would you know how the ferrets were kept? If you meet someone and
> in conversation, find out that they keep say 20 ferrets, how do you know
> *what* conditions they are kept in?
> To look at how a person dresses is no indication as I am more often than
> not a right scruffy cow. I don't care how I look, don't wear make up, pull
> on the first clean thing which falls out of my cupboard at me, rarely iron
> my clothes, unless I plan to go out somewhere in public, and even then might
> forget to get changed. So go on Gary, tell me how you personally would be
> able to tell if a person was looking after their ferrets properly?
Why are you getting so bent out of shape and taking it so personally (beyond the
fact that you and everyone else knows you are a negligent pet owner)? You are
acting as if *I* accused *you* of something. It was just a topic for speculation
and comment (not argument). Why must you try to start trouble (again)? Why do
you start out replying to KG, then switch to questioning me?
As I made clear, this was in the context of a mass hoarding operation like what
Di Bachman and others have been FOUND to have, and the need to find more. NOT on
an individual (few) ferret owner basis, or even people who own many ferrets (but
take good care of them). I made that perfectly clear. Please, *try* to keep up,
and stop trying to make trouble, okay?
> If I told you that I have 2 pigs which live indoors, would *that* make me
> a sloppy or dirty ferret keeper? I do as it happens, and I am not.
Some pigs make great companions; much better than scruffy cows!
Gary
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| Celtic Ferret |
"Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F78F2F5.DE1A01A3@vcn.com...
> oldmolly wrote:
>
> > "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message
news:3F7827F9.61D76AD0@vcn.com...
> Who said anyone was going to do anything like that? That's not the way to
deal
> with it.
>
> > Simply and quietly report the situation to the relevant authorities and
> > leave it to them.
>
> That was exactly what I was thinking from the beginning. Why so defensive?
You
> act as if someone is accusing you of hoarding in life threatening
conditions.
>
Because, it would be too easy to accuese someone who isn't a hoarder. I
feel the same way
KG
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Celtic, Ferret, nospam'voyager.net> wrote:
> "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F78F2F5.DE1A01A3@vcn.com...
> > oldmolly wrote:
> >
> > > "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message
> news:3F7827F9.61D76AD0@vcn.com...
> > Who said anyone was going to do anything like that? That's not the way to
> deal
> > with it.
> >
> > > Simply and quietly report the situation to the relevant authorities and
> > > leave it to them.
> >
> > That was exactly what I was thinking from the beginning. Why so defensive?
> You
> > act as if someone is accusing you of hoarding in life threatening
> conditions.
> >
> Because, it would be too easy to accuese someone who isn't a hoarder. I
> feel the same way
>
> KG
I agree, so it would be up to a local shelter to *try* to look into it (very
discretely, of course).
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| oldmolly |
"Azlin" <com@com.com> wrote in message
news:jG3eb.34892$H86.763780@news1.telusplanet.net...
> Are they those cute pot belly bigs?
>
No they are even cuter and rarer kune kunes.
> Will
>
> > If I told you that I have 2 pigs which live indoors, would *that* make
> me
> > a sloppy or dirty ferret keeper? I do as it happens, and I am not.
> >
> >
>
>
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| oldmolly |
"Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F78F85C.6B10FC72@vcn.com...
>
> Why are you getting so bent out of shape and taking it so personally
(beyond the
> fact that you and everyone else knows you are a negligent pet owner)?
This really does read as though you are accusing me of being a negligent
pet owner. If this is the case chum, you had better apologise.
>You are
> acting as if *I* accused *you* of something. It was just a topic for
speculation
> and comment (not argument). Why must you try to start trouble (again)?
I am not causing trouble. you posted on usenet and I replied with my
thoughts. I think sneaky, snoops are scum, that's all.
>Why do
> you start out replying to KG, then switch to questioning me?
(shrug) I dunno, you tell *me* why.
>
> As I made clear, this was in the context of a mass hoarding operation like
what
> Di Bachman and others have been FOUND to have, and the need to find more.
NOT on
> an individual (few) ferret owner basis, or even people who own many
ferrets (but
> take good care of them). I made that perfectly clear. Please, *try* to
keep up,
> and stop trying to make trouble, okay?
So what is the difference between mass hoarding, and someone like Cap, or
myself or anyone else here who has a lot of animals?
..
>
> Some pigs make great companions; much better than scruffy cows!
Oh I agree. And I would rather have pigs living in my home than trailer
trash.
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"Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F78F2F5.DE1A01A3@vcn.com...
> oldmolly wrote:
>
> > "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message
news:3F7827F9.61D76AD0@vcn.com...
> > > When I mentioned that maybe there should be a bounty on reporting
> > > hoarders, like Di Bachman, and others who caused recent rescues to be
> > > needed, someone agreed with that idea.
> > >
> > > So, I am wondering how such a thing might work? How much money would
the
> > > reward be for reporting such conditions? What would be the definition
of
> > > a "hoarder"? Etc.?
> > >
> > > Naturally, it could not apply to just anyone who has a lot of ferrets,
> > > as many have large numbers of ferrets but take excellent care of them.
> > > So, there would have to be some form of accurate definition of who /
> > > what qualifies for reporting (and getting the reward).
> > >
> > > I think it would hinge more on sad living conditions (neglect) than on
> > > numbers. But, OTOH, there are neglected ferrets that number just a
few,
> > > too. Such a bounty obviously couldn't apply to just any neglect
> > > situation. So, there would have to be some substantial number
involved.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I'm just speculating on how something like that would work (if
> > > at all).
> > >
> > I dislike this sort of sneakiness which can cause no end of problems
for
> > someone by someone with a grudge reporting them . Why report only people
> > with lots of ferrets. I personally think that to mistreat a single
ferret is
> > worthy of reporting.
>
> True, except hoarders (like Di Bachman) do it for money.
>
> > Personally I dislike tittle tattlers and finger pointers. Animal abuse
> > happens all over the world, to all species of animals. There is no need
for
> > anyone to snoop and finger point and yell "abuser",and feel smug about
it.
>
> Who said anyone was going to do anything like that? That's not the way to
deal
> with it.
>
> > Simply and quietly report the situation to the relevant authorities and
> > leave it to them.
>
> That was exactly what I was thinking from the beginning. Why so defensive?
You
> act as if someone is accusing you of hoarding in life threatening
conditions.
>
I wasn't being defensive. I don't have any reason to feel that I need to
defend myself. I was merely pointing out the unfeasability of your
idea.*you* are the one feeling defensive and slinging insults about. I don't
care to be called a neglectful pet keeper as you did in your other post and
I will not forgive you for that. Until you have apologised for that comment,
you are my enemy.
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| oldmolly |
"Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F78F208.372FAF93@vcn.com...
> Jim Higgins wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:39:21 -0600, in
> > <3F7827F9.61D76AD0@vcn.com>, Gary <schooley@vcn.com> wrote:
> >
> > >When I mentioned that maybe there should be a bounty on reporting
> > >hoarders, like Di Bachman, and others who caused recent rescues to be
> > >needed, someone agreed with that idea.
> > >
> > >So, I am wondering how such a thing might work? How much money would
the
> > >reward be for reporting such conditions? What would be the definition
of
> > >a "hoarder"? Etc.?
> > >
> > >Naturally, it could not apply to just anyone who has a lot of ferrets,
> > >as many have large numbers of ferrets but take excellent care of them.
> > >So, there would have to be some form of accurate definition of who /
> > >what qualifies for reporting (and getting the reward).
> > >
> > >I think it would hinge more on sad living conditions (neglect) than on
> > >numbers. But, OTOH, there are neglected ferrets that number just a few,
> > >too. Such a bounty obviously couldn't apply to just any neglect
> > >situation. So, there would have to be some substantial number involved.
> > >
> > >Anyway, I'm just speculating on how something like that would work (if
> > >at all).
> >
> > Should I take it you've already lined up the funding? ;-)
>
> Well, that was something that would naturally be part of the main topic -
the
> amount and source of the reward. I was thinking in the $25 - $50 range;
> something that even a single individual could afford. Enough to invoke a
> response from anyone who knew of such a need, but not enough to make it
hard
> to raise.
>
> Another concern would be more than one person reporting the same place. It
> would only go to the first one reporting, I think would be fair.
>
> Anyway, it's all just speculation; just something to discuss.
>
Hah!! when we *do* discuss it, we get called defensive, and neglectful pet
keepers. Moron.
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| Cap |
From stupid idea to stupid insinuation.
Making lots of friends today aren't we, Gary.
"Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F78F85C.6B10FC72@vcn.com...
> Why are you getting so bent out of shape and taking it so personally
(beyond the
> fact that you and everyone else knows you are a negligent pet owner)? You
are
> acting as if *I* accused *you* of something. It was just a topic for
speculation
> and comment (not argument). Why must you try to start trouble (again)? Why
do
> you start out replying to KG, then switch to questioning me?
>
> As I made clear, this was in the context of a mass hoarding operation like
what
> Di Bachman and others have been FOUND to have, and the need to find more.
NOT on
> an individual (few) ferret owner basis, or even people who own many
ferrets (but
> take good care of them). I made that perfectly clear. Please, *try* to
keep up,
> and stop trying to make trouble, okay?
>
> > If I told you that I have 2 pigs which live indoors, would *that* make
me
> > a sloppy or dirty ferret keeper? I do as it happens, and I am not.
>
> Some pigs make great companions; much better than scruffy cows!
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Gary |
oldmolly wrote:
> "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F78F85C.6B10FC72@vcn.com...
> >
> > Why are you getting so bent out of shape and taking it so personally
> (beyond the
> > fact that you and everyone else knows you are a negligent pet owner)?
> This really does read as though you are accusing me of being a negligent
> pet owner. If this is the case chum, you had better apologise.
Get real, old woman. When I considered and posted this (to other places, too),
*you* were the farthest thing from my mind. You were neither mentioned nor
implied. Now, you are just being paranoid. Seek therapy.
> >You are
> > acting as if *I* accused *you* of something. It was just a topic for
> speculation
> > and comment (not argument). Why must you try to start trouble (again)?
> I am not causing trouble. you posted on usenet and I replied with my
> thoughts. I think sneaky, snoops are scum, that's all.
Yes, and then you went and made it personal.
> >Why do
> > you start out replying to KG, then switch to questioning me?
> (shrug) I dunno, you tell *me* why.
You need therapy?
> > As I made clear, this was in the context of a mass hoarding operation like
> what
> > Di Bachman and others have been FOUND to have, and the need to find more.
> NOT on
> > an individual (few) ferret owner basis, or even people who own many
> ferrets (but
> > take good care of them). I made that perfectly clear. Please, *try* to
> keep up,
> > and stop trying to make trouble, okay?
>
> So what is the difference between mass hoarding, and someone like Cap, or
> myself or anyone else here who has a lot of animals?
Can't you read? BAD LIVING CONDITIONS (for the ferrets)! The kind of conditions
that killed a number of the rescued ferrets.
> > Some pigs make great companions; much better than scruffy cows!
> Oh I agree. And I would rather have pigs living in my home than trailer
> trash.
Define "trailer trash". I work on some trailers that are nicer than most homes!
Gary
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oldmolly wrote:
> "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F78F2F5.DE1A01A3@vcn.com...
> > oldmolly wrote:
> >
> > > "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message
> news:3F7827F9.61D76AD0@vcn.com...
> > > > When I mentioned that maybe there should be a bounty on reporting
> > > > hoarders, like Di Bachman, and others who caused recent rescues to be
> > > > needed, someone agreed with that idea.
> > > >
> > > > So, I am wondering how such a thing might work? How much money would
> the
> > > > reward be for reporting such conditions? What would be the definition
> of
> > > > a "hoarder"? Etc.?
> > > >
> > > > Naturally, it could not apply to just anyone who has a lot of ferrets,
> > > > as many have large numbers of ferrets but take excellent care of them.
> > > > So, there would have to be some form of accurate definition of who /
> > > > what qualifies for reporting (and getting the reward).
> > > >
> > > > I think it would hinge more on sad living conditions (neglect) than on
> > > > numbers. But, OTOH, there are neglected ferrets that number just a
> few,
> > > > too. Such a bounty obviously couldn't apply to just any neglect
> > > > situation. So, there would have to be some substantial number
> involved.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I'm just speculating on how something like that would work (if
> > > > at all).
> > > >
> > > I dislike this sort of sneakiness which can cause no end of problems
> for
> > > someone by someone with a grudge reporting them . Why report only people
> > > with lots of ferrets. I personally think that to mistreat a single
> ferret is
> > > worthy of reporting.
> >
> > True, except hoarders (like Di Bachman) do it for money.
> >
> > > Personally I dislike tittle tattlers and finger pointers. Animal abuse
> > > happens all over the world, to all species of animals. There is no need
> for
> > > anyone to snoop and finger point and yell "abuser",and feel smug about
> it.
> >
> > Who said anyone was going to do anything like that? That's not the way to
> deal
> > with it.
> >
> > > Simply and quietly report the situation to the relevant authorities and
> > > leave it to them.
> >
> > That was exactly what I was thinking from the beginning. Why so defensive?
> You
> > act as if someone is accusing you of hoarding in life threatening
> conditions.
> >
> I wasn't being defensive. I don't have any reason to feel that I need to
> defend myself. I was merely pointing out the unfeasability of your
> idea.*you* are the one feeling defensive and slinging insults about. I don't
> care to be called a neglectful pet keeper as you did in your other post and
> I will not forgive you for that. Until you have apologised for that comment,
> you are my enemy.
Which comment? The one about killing your dog by letting it run the streets? Or
the one about your unplanned litter of pups (and how they, too, will get run
over)? Either way, you summed it up with your last words above; this is why you
ARE trying to start trouble. If you would have kept your ignorant mouth shut in
that other thread, and lighten up like everyone else did, you wouldn't be
starting trouble now. Figure it out.
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oldmolly wrote:
> "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F78F208.372FAF93@vcn.com...
> > Jim Higgins wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:39:21 -0600, in
> > > <3F7827F9.61D76AD0@vcn.com>, Gary <schooley@vcn.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >When I mentioned that maybe there should be a bounty on reporting
> > > >hoarders, like Di Bachman, and others who caused recent rescues to be
> > > >needed, someone agreed with that idea.
> > > >
> > > >So, I am wondering how such a thing might work? How much money would
> the
> > > >reward be for reporting such conditions? What would be the definition
> of
> > > >a "hoarder"? Etc.?
> > > >
> > > >Naturally, it could not apply to just anyone who has a lot of ferrets,
> > > >as many have large numbers of ferrets but take excellent care of them.
> > > >So, there would have to be some form of accurate definition of who /
> > > >what qualifies for reporting (and getting the reward).
> > > >
> > > >I think it would hinge more on sad living conditions (neglect) than on
> > > >numbers. But, OTOH, there are neglected ferrets that number just a few,
> > > >too. Such a bounty obviously couldn't apply to just any neglect
> > > >situation. So, there would have to be some substantial number involved.
> > > >
> > > >Anyway, I'm just speculating on how something like that would work (if
> > > >at all).
> > >
> > > Should I take it you've already lined up the funding? ;-)
> >
> > Well, that was something that would naturally be part of the main topic -
> the
> > amount and source of the reward. I was thinking in the $25 - $50 range;
> > something that even a single individual could afford. Enough to invoke a
> > response from anyone who knew of such a need, but not enough to make it
> hard
> > to raise.
> >
> > Another concern would be more than one person reporting the same place. It
> > would only go to the first one reporting, I think would be fair.
> >
> > Anyway, it's all just speculation; just something to discuss.
> >
> Hah!! when we *do* discuss it, we get called defensive, and neglectful pet
> keepers. Moron.
"We". No, dear, it's not a "we" thing; you are trying to drag everyone else into
YOUR argument. I am discussing it with everyone else peacefully, but YOU are
trying to make it an argument. Deal with it.
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| Jim Higgins |
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:10:28 -0600, in
<3F790234.288A8187@vcn.com>, Gary <schooley@vcn.com> wrote:
>Celtic, Ferret, nospam'voyager.net> wrote:
>
>> "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F78F2F5.DE1A01A3@vcn.com...
>> > oldmolly wrote:
>> >
>> > > "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message
>> news:3F7827F9.61D76AD0@vcn.com...
>> > Who said anyone was going to do anything like that? That's not the way to
>> deal
>> > with it.
>> >
>> > > Simply and quietly report the situation to the relevant authorities and
>> > > leave it to them.
>> >
>> > That was exactly what I was thinking from the beginning. Why so defensive?
>> You
>> > act as if someone is accusing you of hoarding in life threatening
>> conditions.
>> >
>> Because, it would be too easy to accuese someone who isn't a hoarder. I
>> feel the same way
>>
>> KG
>
>I agree, so it would be up to a local shelter to *try* to look into it (very
>discretely, of course).
Gary, it's a dumb idea that no one likes... and now you're trying
to salvage it with patchwork changes. Let it die!
--
Jim Higgins, quasimodo AT yahoo DOT com
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| Jason and Holly Harper |
A PI would be an interesting idea, but way too expensive. That would go way
beyond a $25 reward. ;-) I think whenever money is involved there will be
someone out there that designates themselves a bounty hunter.
Holly
"Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F78F607.E0735D1E@vcn.com...
> Jason and Holly Harper wrote:
>
> > I'm not really sure that would work, Gary. The reason I say that is
because
> > I'm not so sure that hoarders invite people into their homes and the
ones
> > they do invite in are likely to be hoarders/byb too. So my guess is
that it
> > would still go unreported.
>
> True. Good point.
>
> > And where would the money come from? I'm not
> > sure that the ferret community can afford a bounty hunter when most of
our
> > money is going to rescue these babies.
>
> No one said anything about hiring anyone to "hunt" anyone. Maybe I should
have
> used the term "reward", as "bounty" clearly conjures up images of someone
> assigned to hunt for them. That's not what I had in mind at all.
>
> If the reward was in the $25 - $50 range, even some single individuals
could
> afford that (naturally, it would depend on how often it had to be
refreshed).
>
> > Plus I'm sure there's people out
> > there that would report someone just for spite. :( All in all a bounty
> > hunter is not a bad idea, but there are a lot of things that would have
to
> > be ironed out.
>
> Actually, I hadn't considered a person dedicated to searching them out,
> but.......
> (Remember, this is (was) only hypothetical speculation) It *would* be
> interesting if a large ferret organization did hire a PI for the sole
purpose of
> searching them out. I wonder what kind of results a pro would come up
with?
> hmmmm...
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
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| Lin |
Could we all please just drop this? It's gettin ugly. I hate it when people
I like argue amongst themselves.
Lin, Ariel, Oberon, & Max
"Cap" <cap383REMOVE@sand-n-sea.us> wrote in message
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> From stupid idea to stupid insinuation.
> Making lots of friends today aren't we, Gary.
>
> "Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message
news:3F78F85C.6B10FC72@vcn.com...
>
> > Why are you getting so bent out of shape and taking it so personally
> (beyond the
> > fact that you and everyone else knows you are a negligent pet owner)?
You
> are
> > acting as if *I* accused *you* of something. It was just a topic for
> speculation
> > and comment (not argument). Why must you try to start trouble (again)?
Why
> do
> > you start out replying to KG, then switch to questioning me?
> >
> > As I made clear, this was in the context of a mass hoarding operation
like
> what
> > Di Bachman and others have been FOUND to have, and the need to find
more.
> NOT on
> > an individual (few) ferret owner basis, or even people who own many
> ferrets (but
> > take good care of them). I made that perfectly clear. Please, *try* to
> keep up,
> > and stop trying to make trouble, okay?
> >
> > > If I told you that I have 2 pigs which live indoors, would *that*
make
> me
> > > a sloppy or dirty ferret keeper? I do as it happens, and I am not.
> >
> > Some pigs make great companions; much better than scruffy cows!
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| MC |
I will make an observation, from WAAYYY outside the APF loop.
Gary made a genuine, and non accusatory comment. What he expected for an
answer, I have no idea...
Molly, you *DID* come across with your standard, 'I didn't word this right',
response. You meant well, but....it really could have been worded a might less
'sharp tongued'.
Gary..you have been on here long enough to know that Molly responds the way she
does, her heart is in the right place but her wording is..well...a might rough
at times. You really should have ignored her OR responded to the question as
if *YOU* had asked it.
Instead, we are now in a pissing match and a topic that perhaps could have been
looked at in a little more depth, but is now basically worthless.
Oh..as long as I am here.....to pass a blanket 'hoarding' law would be nigh on
impossible to write. It would be too hard to enforce and as has been said,
open to too much misuse, both accidental (read: well meaning) or malicious.
Lastly..a BIG PLUG!!
The ADV quilt that Ardith (Here in Reno) made is beautiful and will be raffled
off at the Symposium in 2 weeks...If you are anywhere near a place to buy
raffle tickets, go for it...if you win, it will be well worth it and ADV
research will be generously funded by the proceeds...95% of which has been sent
to the University of Georgia for ADV research. (5% went to PayPal for their
transaction fees)
Back into silent mode!
MC, The Rude One
> "Cap" <cap383REMOVE@sand-n-sea.us> wrote in message
> news:rfeeb.5229166$mA4.741990@news.easynews.com...
> > From stupid idea to stupid insinuation.
> > Making lots of friends today aren't we, Gary.
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| swamp |
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:19:15 -0700, MC <MC@ProgressiveSystemsInc.org>
wrote:
>Back into silent mode!
Why? I kinda miss your presence here.
>MC, The Rude One
--swamp
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| Gary |
Jason and Holly Harper wrote:
> A PI would be an interesting idea, but way too expensive. That would go way
> beyond a $25 reward. ;-) I think whenever money is involved there will be
> someone out there that designates themselves a bounty hunter.
>
> Holly
Yes, I'm sure it would be expensive, but, once again, it's just sheer
speculation; just a "what if?". It would make an interesting experiment though
(not to mention a totally odd assignment for the PI!).
Gary
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MC wrote:
> I will make an observation, from WAAYYY outside the APF loop.
>
> Gary made a genuine, and non accusatory comment. What he expected for an
> answer, I have no idea...
>
> Molly, you *DID* come across with your standard, 'I didn't word this right',
> response. You meant well, but....it really could have been worded a might less
> 'sharp tongued'.
>
> Gary..you have been on here long enough to know that Molly responds the way she
> does, her heart is in the right place but her wording is..well...a might rough
> at times. You really should have ignored her OR responded to the question as
> if *YOU* had asked it.
>
> Instead, we are now in a pissing match and a topic that perhaps could have been
> looked at in a little more depth, but is now basically worthless.
>
> Oh..as long as I am here.....to pass a blanket 'hoarding' law would be nigh on
> impossible to write. It would be too hard to enforce and as has been said,
> open to too much misuse, both accidental (read: well meaning) or malicious.
>
> Lastly..a BIG PLUG!!
>
> The ADV quilt that Ardith (Here in Reno) made is beautiful and will be raffled
> off at the Symposium in 2 weeks...If you are anywhere near a place to buy
> raffle tickets, go for it...if you win, it will be well worth it and ADV
> research will be generously funded by the proceeds...95% of which has been sent
> to the University of Georgia for ADV research. (5% went to PayPal for their
> transaction fees)
>
> Back into silent mode!
>
> MC, The Rude One
Thanks for your comments MC. Yes, I should have known that some would blow it out
of proportions. But, I had been considering it for several weeks before posting it,
and it had ZERO to do with ANYONE here. I can't help it if I am always thinking,
"Hmmm... What if...?".
Gary
P.S. You should comment more often, as you said it very well. :o)
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| oldmolly |
"Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F797739.5832F862@vcn.com...
> oldmolly wrote:
> Which comment? The one about killing your dog by letting it run the
streets?
For a start there are no 'streets' here. Just a narrow quiet country lane.
I do not 'allow' any of my animals to run on it, nor was any dog of mine
killed on the lane.
>Or
> the one about your unplanned litter of pups (and how they, too, will get
run
> over)?
All apart from the 2 I kept, are in smashing homes as companions to older
dogs with great humans.
>Either way, you summed it up with your last words above; this is >why you
> ARE trying to start trouble. If you would have kept your ignorant mouth
shut in
> that other thread, and lighten up like everyone else did, you wouldn't be
> starting trouble now. Figure it out.
I *have* figured it out. You are one nasty individual, who hates when
someone asks about something you posted and questions you. You tell lies and
make up stories about anyone who does so and verbally attacks them. All of
your replies to my posts have proved just what an arsehole you are. If you
think that I would be in any way affected by what trailer trash scum like
you think, you are mistaken. Just don't go making things up and blackening
my name is all I ask.
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| Isotope |
"oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> >Or
> > the one about your unplanned litter of pups (and how they, too, will get
> run
> > over)?
> All apart from the 2 I kept, are in smashing homes as companions to older
> dogs with great humans.
Errr... I suggest you re-word that last comment - unless you really *did*
mean to say that the 2 you kept *aren't* in smashing homes. That was the (I
assume) unintentional implication.
Isotope (staying out of the rest of this argument.... duck!)
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| Jason and Holly Harper |
Had to reply on your big plug, MC. :) The ADV quilt is just gorgeous. Did
Ardith do both quilts? I saw the WRMQ and the ADV quilt at a recent show
and both were just unbelievable. Definitely pick up tickets people!
Holly
p.s.
Good to see you post, MC. :)
"MC" <MC@ProgressiveSystemsInc.org> wrote in message
news:3F7A39A3.CB92B7C4@ProgressiveSystemsInc.org...
> I will make an observation, from WAAYYY outside the APF loop.
>
> Gary made a genuine, and non accusatory comment. What he expected for an
> answer, I have no idea...
>
> Molly, you *DID* come across with your standard, 'I didn't word this
right',
> response. You meant well, but....it really could have been worded a might
less
> 'sharp tongued'.
>
> Gary..you have been on here long enough to know that Molly responds the
way she
> does, her heart is in the right place but her wording is..well...a might
rough
> at times. You really should have ignored her OR responded to the question
as
> if *YOU* had asked it.
>
> Instead, we are now in a pissing match and a topic that perhaps could have
been
> looked at in a little more depth, but is now basically worthless.
>
> Oh..as long as I am here.....to pass a blanket 'hoarding' law would be
nigh on
> impossible to write. It would be too hard to enforce and as has been
said,
> open to too much misuse, both accidental (read: well meaning) or
malicious.
>
> Lastly..a BIG PLUG!!
>
> The ADV quilt that Ardith (Here in Reno) made is beautiful and will be
raffled
> off at the Symposium in 2 weeks...If you are anywhere near a place to buy
> raffle tickets, go for it...if you win, it will be well worth it and ADV
> research will be generously funded by the proceeds...95% of which has been
sent
> to the University of Georgia for ADV research. (5% went to PayPal for
their
> transaction fees)
>
> Back into silent mode!
>
> MC, The Rude One
>
>
> > "Cap" <cap383REMOVE@sand-n-sea.us> wrote in message
> > news:rfeeb.5229166$mA4.741990@news.easynews.com...
> > > From stupid idea to stupid insinuation.
> > > Making lots of friends today aren't we, Gary.
>
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| Jason and Holly Harper |
Oh I know, Gary. You're a very "what-if" kinda person. :) Nothing wrong
with that. I'm sure PIs have come across weirder than that!!
Holly
"Gary" <schooley@vcn.com> wrote in message news:3F7ACE52.B139AE2E@vcn.com...
> Jason and Holly Harper wrote:
>
> > A PI would be an interesting idea, but way too expensive. That would go
way
> > beyond a $25 reward. ;-) I think whenever money is involved there will
be
> > someone out there that designates themselves a bounty hunter.
> >
> > Holly
>
> Yes, I'm sure it would be expensive, but, once again, it's just sheer
> speculation; just a "what if?". It would make an interesting experiment
though
> (not to mention a totally odd assignment for the PI!).
>
> Gary
>
>
>
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| Gary |
Jason and Holly Harper wrote:
> Oh I know, Gary. You're a very "what-if" kinda person. :) Nothing wrong
> with that. I'm sure PIs have come across weirder than that!!
>
> Holly
If it's anything like what cops come across, I'm sure they do indeed come across
weirder things. I read a book written by a cop, about the very odd cases he has
encountered, and they are indeed bizarre! (A naked woman chasing him around the
room trying to squirt him with breast milk!)
I guess the "What if's?" come from being an inventor. :o)
Gary
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