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HOWEDY John,
"John Smith" <JohnSmith@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3ASdnUaJ0JwTj0CjXTWcoQ@giganews.com...
>
> I have a 7 year old male Weimaraner and a 2 year old
> female Red Bone Hound.
Good for you.
> My girlfriend has a cat that's a little over a year old.
Kittys are SO nice!
> The Red Bone Hound plays rough with the cat, but for
> the most part they get along okay.
Well, that sounds iffy... You can teach him to control hisself.
> The Weimaraner wants to kill the cat, no doubt about it.
NO PROBLEMO. We'll fix that just like HOWE we train
the other dog to play MOORE gently.
> There's no room for error with the Weimaraner.
We'll train him to the hilt in practically no time at all.
They'll be PALS in abHOWET four days, maybe less.
Maybe INSTANTLY...
> If he gets a hold of the cat, he will kill it.
You'll break his inapupriate thoughts abHOWET the
kat in a few minutes using the techniques taught in
your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizzzard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
> My girlfriend and I are at a point in our relationship
> where we either get to the next step (i.e., living together,
> marriage, etc) or we need to end things and go our separate
> ways.
Doesn't sound like a very strong bond... maybe you're
just scared of the mmmmM word. I know the feelin.
That's EZ to fix too. Every time the mmmM word comes
up, THINK SHARK!!! I guess that'll only work if you're
a diver, but it SHORE takes the fear HOWET the M word.
> We can't get to the next step, because I can't seem to
> find a solution to make our pets get along.
Oh? Is that the only problem? NO PROBLEMO!
> I don't want to get rid of my dogs,
Of curse not.
> and she doesn't want to get rid of her cat.
Of curse not.
> Is there a way I can get my Weimaraner to get along with
> her cat?
Yeah, that's EZ. But you got to follow and do all the
exercises in your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizzzard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
Won't take but maybe a HOWER to study and a half
HOWER to review and practice the exercises timing
tone and tempo you'll need to work the FASTEST,
MOST EFFECTIVE, GENTLEST, method in the
Whole Wild World.
> Or does the relationship have to end because our
> pets can't get along?
The Puppy Wizzzard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Student's get 100% total non physical
control nearly instantly.
> It sounds silly as I write this, but this is where we're at.
Ain't silly to The Puppy Wizzzard. Sounds like you got
a great relationship with everybody all arHOWEnd.
You'll do just fine if you follow the instructions to the
letter and ask Your Puppy Wizzzard if you need any
additional FREE help.
In the animal behavior business, FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
> Thanks for any info/advice.
You won't be gettin no goddamned advice from HOWER
Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards... they
allow their critters to fight it HOWET and let their kats
swat their dogs to train them, or jerk and choke their
dogs on pronged spiked pinch choke collars and shock
and spray aversives in their eyes.
HOWER dog lovers will deny it, but The Puppy Wizzzard's
Archives got the facts...
"misty" <Momisty@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:16990-3CAB1F8C-1@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive.
> I do know she's not here with us. I really
> can't blame anyone here for her loss.
> I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did
> it because of how you write/wrote. I was
> unwilling to accept the idea that my using
> a shock collar could have any bearing on
> Peach not wanting to stay home.
> Up until I started using it my main concern
> had been keeping my dogs in their own yard.
> Once I started using the e-fence...well, then
> my concern became how to keep them from
> running off for days on end.
> I lost valuable training time becoming
> embroiled in the anti-shock debate and
> the "Jerry sux" tirades.
> I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in
> the world now <g>
> A Wits End Trained dog, one who is
> completely housetrained, doesn't chew
> up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark
> all the time.
> IOW a great companion and friend.
> Thanks Jerry!
=====================
"misty" <Momisty@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6946-3B6337A1-329@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.ne
> We just installed a PetSafe brand fence
> this Spring. Two dogs, two collars We
> now have one dog and no collars.
> Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence,
> not want to come back in the yard and would
> run for days. The last time, Peach didn't come
> back home.
> I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn
> how to train my dog. She is now border trained.
> A few minutes each day reinforces her desire to
> stay in the yard.
> She no longer runs out into the road, I can
> stop her from chasing cats and she no longer
> cringes when we walk around the yard.
> I can not say loud or long enough how much
> I hate the e-fence and its collars. If you can't
> get a regular fence then you need to train your
> dog. I will never rely on an electronic collar to
> keep my dog in our yard again.
> The price was too high:-(
> ~misty
============
From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbousie@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Dog vs cat food (stealing cat food)
Date: 2001-03-03 22:18:03 PST
It's possible to teach a dog not to eat out of a cat bowl
without too much difficulty.
My dogs don't touch the food in the cat bowls although
Roz licks up any bits that have been dropped around the bowls
:-)
I used a can with stones in it to create a distraction
anytime the dogs tried to eat the cats food, followed
with immediate praise. It worked a treat.
The cats bowls are down all the time, usually there is
food left over but the dogs don't eat it, even if we go
out and leave the dogs with access inside through a dog door.
Paul
--
Obedience and affection are not related, if they
were everyone would have obedient dogs.
See the dogs, cats, us and pics of NZ etc at my homepage.....
http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/paulbousie/index.html
Updated regularly (last time 23 Jan 01) so keep coming back!!!
====================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Fitz [mailto:donfitz69@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 11:53 a.m.
> To: Amanda@DCFWatch.com; paulbousie@clear.net.nz
> Subject: Jerry Howe
>
> Hi,
> Jerry uses your email in his posts and I was wondering
> what you have to say of his training methods.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Bousie" <paulbousie@clear.net.nz>
To: "'Don Fitz'" <donfitz69@hotmail.com>; <Amanda@DCFWatch.com>
Cc: <jhowe2@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:45 AM
Subject: RE: Jerry Howe
> If you have read the newsgroup posts then you must
> already have a good idea about what I think.
>
> His methods are the best I have come across. They
> aren't a quick fix but an entire training concept so if
> you aren't in for the long haul then don't bother. If
> you go his way then you have to forget all the other
> gibberish that other people spew, you have to believe
> in what you are doing, then and only then will you get
> the results.
> You can't combine his methods with other training
> methods, not until you understand what you are
> trying to achieve, and even then I have only ever
> combined about 2 other trainers ideas and even
> then just a snip of what they suggest which works
> in parallel with the Wits End concept.
> His methods make you as the trainer completely
> responsible for your actions, his methods make
> you think and work out your own solutions for
> any given situation, the default (the recall) is
> always there to get things under control again.
> His ideas and concepts teach you to work with
> the dog, to develop a team and a willingness to
> work together which is surely the best way to be.
> His methods don't use force or intimidation but
> they do totally emphasize the absolute importance
> of pack (family pack) structure, without that you
> can achieve almost nothing.
> If you are wondering how a dog can be trained
> without any negativity the answer lies in the recall,
> anytime your dog doesn't follow through with a
> request you call him / her to you, since the recall
> is the first thing taught and it is taught in such a
> way it becomes a reflex the dog always returns
> to you, it is a subordinate position for the dog and
> we release it by asking for a "heel" which is an
> "equal" position.
> His methods are very good, his understanding of
> dogs is excellent, I recommend his methods.
> Paul Bousie
==============================
"Paul B" <panders@zfree.co.nz> wrote in message
news:3c2ae204@clear.net.nz...
> Bollocks, the manual has no dangerous suggestions at
> all, people who find the manual useful are those that
> don't need to control a dog to satisfy their own ego
> but simply want a well behaved dog that is easy to
> live with. I would suggest the people who follow the
> advice in his manual are people who have already
> tried other inefficient methods and are fed up with
> the poor results.
> The more I think about the methods he suggests the
> more sense it makes, the biggest problem is people
> believe they have to be in control of the dog, tell it
> whats right and wrong, dogs don't understand
> our values and I don't believe they are capable of
> understanding them either, so to train them we use
> methods they understand. That means abstract
> training, doing sometimes what appears to
> almost be the opposite of what makes sense to us.
> If you are purely result orientated then you will not
> find Jerry's manual much use, if you love your dogs
> and love to work WITH them then his manual is
> your dream come true. Distraction and praise works
> with any dog, when you sit back and really think about
> it, it's very obvious why.
> When a dog is properly distracted (and praised) of a
> particular behaviour then that behaviour very quickly
> becomes unfulfilling so the dog will no longer have any
> interest in pursuing it, whether we are about or not,
> thats the key to stopping garbage can raids and food
> stealing etc etc, no force, no bad dog, just distracting it
> in an appropriate manner that it no longer wishes to
> pursue that behaviour.
> Better than hiding the garbage can eh?
> Paul
=======================
<"Terri"@cyberhighway
> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading
> his posts and watching him extract his soggy
> foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2
> naive childs come forward and actually
> believe in his training manual.
Robert Crim writes:
I assume that I and my wife are those two
naive childs since I freely admit to having
read and, I hope, understood enough of the
manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher
and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.
This naive child would like to say thank you
to both Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with
a constant barrage of really infantile crap at
the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers.
The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with
the nagging idea that if people like them had
been posting earlier, maybe we would not have
had to hold the head of a really magnificent
animal in our arms while he was given the
needle and having to hug him and wait until
he gasped his last gasp.
To my mind, "naive" is believing you can
terrorize a dog into good behavior. Naive is
believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use
their real names.
Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better
than those that have studied and lived by their
craft for decades.
"Stupid" is believing that people do not see
kindergarten level insults for what they are.
Really stupid is believing that people like
Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are going
to just go away because you people act like
fools. Why do you act like fools? I really
have no idea, and I don't really care.
> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come
> forward and actually admit to buying and
> having success with his little black box.
I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's
day and take it down to the Animal Shelter for
their use and testing. You would never believe
the results, so you'll never know.
> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man
> coming by Jerry's posts deserves to get what
> is sure to be coming to him! LOL!
I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh?
As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.
>Terri
Yes it was, and that is sad.
Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to listen
to the box first?)
--------==========================----
"Paul B" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3edc57c5@clear.net.nz...
>
> "shaper" <nomail@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:3edb6bbb@quokka.wn.com.au...
> > I have been reading these forums for a few weeks now,
> > and am getting really confused!!
> > but is there actually anyone who has used the methods
> > in this manual with any success ?
100% TOTAL NON PHYSICAL CONTROL, NEARLY INSTANTLY, BY NEARLY EVERY FREE WWW
Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual Student.
It's the GENTLEST, FASTEST, MOST EFFECTIVE,
NON FORCE, NON CONFRONTATIONAL, NON
BRIBE, SCIENTIFIC and PSYCHOLOGICAL MOST
COMPREHENSIVE technique in the Whole Wild
World, BAR NONE.
> > I am wanting to get a rhodesian ridgeback soon and
> > really would like to know the best and most effective
> > way of training without using food treats or violence
> > (i do agree with what the guy says about food treats
> > and violence)
> > Thanks for any intelligent replies
> I have tried his methods and found them extremely effective.
> There are several areas in particular I found useful.
> He teaches you and the dog to pay attention to each other
> all the time.
> He teaches you to have such good communication with
> your dog you don't need leash corrections or shock
> collars or even food, you can get the dogs attention any
> time you like by calling it or with a snap of your fingers.
> When I trained both my dogs to "heel" or walk close to
> me I ended up going to the parks and teaching them
> without a lead at all, that ensured I had to use good
> communication and was unable to be tempted to use
> the lead to correct them.
> Another part of the training I agree with is not using the
> "policeman" approach, where you tell a dog "no" or react
> with it in such a way that you become involved in the
> behaviour (by trying to stop it), this approach often results
> in a dog ceasing the behaviour when you are about but
> doing it when you aren't (bin raiding, counter surfing etc).
> Basically you are taught to make your dog a good friend
> who likes and wants to work for you for the pleasure of
> working for you (setting the hierarchy is included in this),
> teach it to recall reliably, then to do everything else (sit,
> stay down etc etc).
> Unwanted behaviours are addressed as they occur. If
> you understand what you are trying to achieve and are
> prepared to work with it you can get great results.
>
> Paul
|
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| The Puppy Wizard |
HOWEDY John,
"John Smith" <JohnSmith@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3ASdnUaJ0JwTj0CjXTWcoQ@giganews.com...
>
> I have a 7 year old male Weimaraner and a 2 year old
> female Red Bone Hound.
Good for you.
> My girlfriend has a cat that's a little over a year old.
Kittys are SO nice!
> The Red Bone Hound plays rough with the cat, but for
> the most part they get along okay.
Well, that sounds iffy... You can teach him to control hisself.
> The Weimaraner wants to kill the cat, no doubt about it.
NO PROBLEMO. We'll fix that just like HOWE we train
the other dog to play MOORE gently.
> There's no room for error with the Weimaraner.
We'll train him to the hilt in practically no time at all.
They'll be PALS in abHOWET four days, maybe less.
Maybe INSTANTLY...
> If he gets a hold of the cat, he will kill it.
You'll break his inapupriate thoughts abHOWET the
kat in a few minutes using the techniques taught in
your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizzzard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
> My girlfriend and I are at a point in our relationship
> where we either get to the next step (i.e., living together,
> marriage, etc) or we need to end things and go our separate
> ways.
Doesn't sound like a very strong bond... maybe you're
just scared of the mmmmM word. I know the feelin.
That's EZ to fix too. Every time the mmmM word comes
up, THINK SHARK!!! I guess that'll only work if you're
a diver, but it SHORE takes the fear HOWET the M word.
> We can't get to the next step, because I can't seem to
> find a solution to make our pets get along.
Oh? Is that the only problem? NO PROBLEMO!
> I don't want to get rid of my dogs,
Of curse not.
> and she doesn't want to get rid of her cat.
Of curse not.
> Is there a way I can get my Weimaraner to get along with
> her cat?
Yeah, that's EZ. But you got to follow and do all the
exercises in your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizzzard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
Won't take but maybe a HOWER to study and a half
HOWER to review and practice the exercises timing
tone and tempo you'll need to work the FASTEST,
MOST EFFECTIVE, GENTLEST, method in the
Whole Wild World.
> Or does the relationship have to end because our
> pets can't get along?
The Puppy Wizzzard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Student's get 100% total non physical
control nearly instantly.
> It sounds silly as I write this, but this is where we're at.
Ain't silly to The Puppy Wizzzard. Sounds like you got
a great relationship with everybody all arHOWEnd.
You'll do just fine if you follow the instructions to the
letter and ask Your Puppy Wizzzard if you need any
additional FREE help.
In the animal behavior business, FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
> Thanks for any info/advice.
You won't be gettin no goddamned advice from HOWER
Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards... they
allow their critters to fight it HOWET and let their kats
swat their dogs to train them, or jerk and choke their
dogs on pronged spiked pinch choke collars and shock
and spray aversives in their eyes.
HOWER dog lovers will deny it, but The Puppy Wizzzard's
Archives got the facts...
"misty" <Momisty@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:16990-3CAB1F8C-1@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive.
> I do know she's not here with us. I really
> can't blame anyone here for her loss.
> I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did
> it because of how you write/wrote. I was
> unwilling to accept the idea that my using
> a shock collar could have any bearing on
> Peach not wanting to stay home.
> Up until I started using it my main concern
> had been keeping my dogs in their own yard.
> Once I started using the e-fence...well, then
> my concern became how to keep them from
> running off for days on end.
> I lost valuable training time becoming
> embroiled in the anti-shock debate and
> the "Jerry sux" tirades.
> I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in
> the world now <g>
> A Wits End Trained dog, one who is
> completely housetrained, doesn't chew
> up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark
> all the time.
> IOW a great companion and friend.
> Thanks Jerry!
=====================
"misty" <Momisty@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6946-3B6337A1-329@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.ne
> We just installed a PetSafe brand fence
> this Spring. Two dogs, two collars We
> now have one dog and no collars.
> Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence,
> not want to come back in the yard and would
> run for days. The last time, Peach didn't come
> back home.
> I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn
> how to train my dog. She is now border trained.
> A few minutes each day reinforces her desire to
> stay in the yard.
> She no longer runs out into the road, I can
> stop her from chasing cats and she no longer
> cringes when we walk around the yard.
> I can not say loud or long enough how much
> I hate the e-fence and its collars. If you can't
> get a regular fence then you need to train your
> dog. I will never rely on an electronic collar to
> keep my dog in our yard again.
> The price was too high:-(
> ~misty
============
From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbousie@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Dog vs cat food (stealing cat food)
Date: 2001-03-03 22:18:03 PST
It's possible to teach a dog not to eat out of a cat bowl
without too much difficulty.
My dogs don't touch the food in the cat bowls although
Roz licks up any bits that have been dropped around the bowls
:-)
I used a can with stones in it to create a distraction
anytime the dogs tried to eat the cats food, followed
with immediate praise. It worked a treat.
The cats bowls are down all the time, usually there is
food left over but the dogs don't eat it, even if we go
out and leave the dogs with access inside through a dog door.
Paul
--
Obedience and affection are not related, if they
were everyone would have obedient dogs.
See the dogs, cats, us and pics of NZ etc at my homepage.....
http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/paulbousie/index.html
Updated regularly (last time 23 Jan 01) so keep coming back!!!
====================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Fitz [mailto:donfitz69@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 11:53 a.m.
> To: Amanda@DCFWatch.com; paulbousie@clear.net.nz
> Subject: Jerry Howe
>
> Hi,
> Jerry uses your email in his posts and I was wondering
> what you have to say of his training methods.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Bousie" <paulbousie@clear.net.nz>
To: "'Don Fitz'" <donfitz69@hotmail.com>; <Amanda@DCFWatch.com>
Cc: <jhowe2@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:45 AM
Subject: RE: Jerry Howe
> If you have read the newsgroup posts then you must
> already have a good idea about what I think.
>
> His methods are the best I have come across. They
> aren't a quick fix but an entire training concept so if
> you aren't in for the long haul then don't bother. If
> you go his way then you have to forget all the other
> gibberish that other people spew, you have to believe
> in what you are doing, then and only then will you get
> the results.
> You can't combine his methods with other training
> methods, not until you understand what you are
> trying to achieve, and even then I have only ever
> combined about 2 other trainers ideas and even
> then just a snip of what they suggest which works
> in parallel with the Wits End concept.
> His methods make you as the trainer completely
> responsible for your actions, his methods make
> you think and work out your own solutions for
> any given situation, the default (the recall) is
> always there to get things under control again.
> His ideas and concepts teach you to work with
> the dog, to develop a team and a willingness to
> work together which is surely the best way to be.
> His methods don't use force or intimidation but
> they do totally emphasize the absolute importance
> of pack (family pack) structure, without that you
> can achieve almost nothing.
> If you are wondering how a dog can be trained
> without any negativity the answer lies in the recall,
> anytime your dog doesn't follow through with a
> request you call him / her to you, since the recall
> is the first thing taught and it is taught in such a
> way it becomes a reflex the dog always returns
> to you, it is a subordinate position for the dog and
> we release it by asking for a "heel" which is an
> "equal" position.
> His methods are very good, his understanding of
> dogs is excellent, I recommend his methods.
> Paul Bousie
==============================
"Paul B" <panders@zfree.co.nz> wrote in message
news:3c2ae204@clear.net.nz...
> Bollocks, the manual has no dangerous suggestions at
> all, people who find the manual useful are those that
> don't need to control a dog to satisfy their own ego
> but simply want a well behaved dog that is easy to
> live with. I would suggest the people who follow the
> advice in his manual are people who have already
> tried other inefficient methods and are fed up with
> the poor results.
> The more I think about the methods he suggests the
> more sense it makes, the biggest problem is people
> believe they have to be in control of the dog, tell it
> whats right and wrong, dogs don't understand
> our values and I don't believe they are capable of
> understanding them either, so to train them we use
> methods they understand. That means abstract
> training, doing sometimes what appears to
> almost be the opposite of what makes sense to us.
> If you are purely result orientated then you will not
> find Jerry's manual much use, if you love your dogs
> and love to work WITH them then his manual is
> your dream come true. Distraction and praise works
> with any dog, when you sit back and really think about
> it, it's very obvious why.
> When a dog is properly distracted (and praised) of a
> particular behaviour then that behaviour very quickly
> becomes unfulfilling so the dog will no longer have any
> interest in pursuing it, whether we are about or not,
> thats the key to stopping garbage can raids and food
> stealing etc etc, no force, no bad dog, just distracting it
> in an appropriate manner that it no longer wishes to
> pursue that behaviour.
> Better than hiding the garbage can eh?
> Paul
=======================
<"Terri"@cyberhighway
> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading
> his posts and watching him extract his soggy
> foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2
> naive childs come forward and actually
> believe in his training manual.
Robert Crim writes:
I assume that I and my wife are those two
naive childs since I freely admit to having
read and, I hope, understood enough of the
manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher
and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.
This naive child would like to say thank you
to both Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with
a constant barrage of really infantile crap at
the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers.
The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with
the nagging idea that if people like them had
been posting earlier, maybe we would not have
had to hold the head of a really magnificent
animal in our arms while he was given the
needle and having to hug him and wait until
he gasped his last gasp.
To my mind, "naive" is believing you can
terrorize a dog into good behavior. Naive is
believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use
their real names.
Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better
than those that have studied and lived by their
craft for decades.
"Stupid" is believing that people do not see
kindergarten level insults for what they are.
Really stupid is believing that people like
Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are going
to just go away because you people act like
fools. Why do you act like fools? I really
have no idea, and I don't really care.
> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come
> forward and actually admit to buying and
> having success with his little black box.
I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's
day and take it down to the Animal Shelter for
their use and testing. You would never believe
the results, so you'll never know.
> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man
> coming by Jerry's posts deserves to get what
> is sure to be coming to him! LOL!
I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh?
As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.
>Terri
Yes it was, and that is sad.
Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to listen
to the box first?)
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"Paul B" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3edc57c5@clear.net.nz...
>
> "shaper" <nomail@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:3edb6bbb@quokka.wn.com.au...
> > I have been reading these forums for a few weeks now,
> > and am getting really confused!!
> > but is there actually anyone who has used the methods
> > in this manual with any success ?
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> > I am wanting to get a rhodesian ridgeback soon and
> > really would like to know the best and most effective
> > way of training without using food treats or violence
> > (i do agree with what the guy says about food treats
> > and violence)
> > Thanks for any intelligent replies
> I have tried his methods and found them extremely effective.
> There are several areas in particular I found useful.
> He teaches you and the dog to pay attention to each other
> all the time.
> He teaches you to have such good communication with
> your dog you don't need leash corrections or shock
> collars or even food, you can get the dogs attention any
> time you like by calling it or with a snap of your fingers.
> When I trained both my dogs to "heel" or walk close to
> me I ended up going to the parks and teaching them
> without a lead at all, that ensured I had to use good
> communication and was unable to be tempted to use
> the lead to correct them.
> Another part of the training I agree with is not using the
> "policeman" approach, where you tell a dog "no" or react
> with it in such a way that you become involved in the
> behaviour (by trying to stop it), this approach often results
> in a dog ceasing the behaviour when you are about but
> doing it when you aren't (bin raiding, counter surfing etc).
> Basically you are taught to make your dog a good friend
> who likes and wants to work for you for the pleasure of
> working for you (setting the hierarchy is included in this),
> teach it to recall reliably, then to do everything else (sit,
> stay down etc etc).
> Unwanted behaviours are addressed as they occur. If
> you understand what you are trying to achieve and are
> prepared to work with it you can get great results.
>
> Paul
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