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HB
I did a LOT of online research about these little buggers when Ginger &
Reese got nailed. There was a lot of theory, but nothing really concrete
about the lifecycle & means of transmission. Tonight, National Geographic
did a special about all kinds of creepy insects. The guy that hosted the
show was a real insect nut and explained the whole deal. He had live
specimens and documented everything you are about to read on video.

The mature fly chases down an ordinary housefly, catches it, and lays a
dozen or so eggs on the housefly's underbelly (each Bot Fly will do this to
as many as 18 houseflies). When the host housefly lands on an animal, the
heat from the animal causes the larvae to hatch, within *seconds* (video of
housefly landing on his arm, larvae hatching almost instantaneously &
starting to crawl into a pore in his skin). He killed the thing with rubbing
alcohol before it could disappear under his skin. He then squeezed a
simi-mature specimen out of a cow's skin to show what they look like. The
"mature" larvae crawls out on it's own when ready, and drops into the
roughage on the ground to morph into another mature Bot Fly.

Now we know :o/

--

(Y)
(°-°)
--()-,-()--<{@
(_)-(_)
"It's because of the ears"

HB, Chelsea, Ginger, Reeser, Jasmine =:o)
(Bandit, SweetPea, Pipkin, Jessica & Scamper from the bridge)




Slykitten
oh my! I must thank you.... there went my midnight snack! =) oh well....
anyway, that's gross but good to know.... thoroughly gross.... eeeewwww!
<<shudder!>>


"HB" <fastforty@invalid.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bgcs8o$8k2$1@news.chatlink.com...
> I did a LOT of online research about these little buggers when Ginger &
> Reese got nailed. There was a lot of theory, but nothing really concrete
> about the lifecycle & means of transmission. Tonight, National Geographic
> did a special about all kinds of creepy insects. The guy that hosted the
> show was a real insect nut and explained the whole deal. He had live
> specimens and documented everything you are about to read on video.
>
> The mature fly chases down an ordinary housefly, catches it, and lays a
> dozen or so eggs on the housefly's underbelly (each Bot Fly will do this

to
> as many as 18 houseflies). When the host housefly lands on an animal, the
> heat from the animal causes the larvae to hatch, within *seconds* (video

of
> housefly landing on his arm, larvae hatching almost instantaneously &
> starting to crawl into a pore in his skin). He killed the thing with

rubbing
> alcohol before it could disappear under his skin. He then squeezed a
> simi-mature specimen out of a cow's skin to show what they look like. The
> "mature" larvae crawls out on it's own when ready, and drops into the
> roughage on the ground to morph into another mature Bot Fly.
>
> Now we know :o/
>
> --
>
> (Y)
> (°-°)
> --()-,-()--<{@
> (_)-(_)
> "It's because of the ears"
>
> HB, Chelsea, Ginger, Reeser, Jasmine =:o)
> (Bandit, SweetPea, Pipkin, Jessica & Scamper from the bridge)
>
>
>
>



scGram
That's scary ... not only do they burrow into our bunnies, they evidently invade human skin also. I
wonder why we don't hear more about cases of this happening? I always knew flies were dirty, but
Yikes ... I repeat ... THAT'S REALLY SCARY !!! Guess I'll buy a few more fly swatters.

--
Dori ... BB and Cissy
--------------------------------
"HB" <fastforty@invalid.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:bgcs8o$8k2$1@news.chatlink.com...
> I did a LOT of online research about these little buggers when Ginger &
> Reese got nailed. There was a lot of theory, but nothing really concrete
> about the lifecycle & means of transmission. Tonight, National Geographic
> did a special about all kinds of creepy insects. The guy that hosted the
> show was a real insect nut and explained the whole deal. He had live
> specimens and documented everything you are about to read on video.
>
> The mature fly chases down an ordinary housefly, catches it, and lays a
> dozen or so eggs on the housefly's underbelly (each Bot Fly will do this to
> as many as 18 houseflies). When the host housefly lands on an animal, the
> heat from the animal causes the larvae to hatch, within *seconds* (video of
> housefly landing on his arm, larvae hatching almost instantaneously &
> starting to crawl into a pore in his skin). He killed the thing with rubbing
> alcohol before it could disappear under his skin. He then squeezed a
> simi-mature specimen out of a cow's skin to show what they look like. The
> "mature" larvae crawls out on it's own when ready, and drops into the
> roughage on the ground to morph into another mature Bot Fly.
>
> Now we know :o/
>
> --
>
> (Y)
> (°-°)
> --()-,-()--<{@
> (_)-(_)
> "It's because of the ears"
>
> HB, Chelsea, Ginger, Reeser, Jasmine =:o)
> (Bandit, SweetPea, Pipkin, Jessica & Scamper from the bridge)
>
>
>
>




Laurie
> The mature fly chases down an ordinary housefly, catches it, and lays
> a dozen or so eggs on the housefly's underbelly (each Bot Fly will do
> this to as many as 18 houseflies). When the host housefly lands on an
> animal, the heat from the animal causes the larvae to hatch, within
> *seconds*


This is REALLY scary, because it means the average ordinary disgusting
HOUSEFLY is the culprit. I've been looking for big ugly
different-than-houseflies flies. But now I realize the average housefly can
be the source. I agree with Dori - flyswatters as the call of the day!

Laurie


Sue French
So are bot flies found in all areas of the U.S.?
--
Sue, Flurry, and Max
http://home.nycap.rr.com/safrench/
replace x with sc to reply

"HB" <fastforty@invalid.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bgcs8o$8k2$1@news.chatlink.com...
> I did a LOT of online research about these little buggers when Ginger &
> Reese got nailed. There was a lot of theory, but nothing really concrete
> about the lifecycle & means of transmission. Tonight, National Geographic
> did a special about all kinds of creepy insects. The guy that hosted the
> show was a real insect nut and explained the whole deal. He had live
> specimens and documented everything you are about to read on video.
>
> The mature fly chases down an ordinary housefly, catches it, and lays a
> dozen or so eggs on the housefly's underbelly (each Bot Fly will do this

to
> as many as 18 houseflies). When the host housefly lands on an animal, the
> heat from the animal causes the larvae to hatch, within *seconds* (video

of
> housefly landing on his arm, larvae hatching almost instantaneously &
> starting to crawl into a pore in his skin). He killed the thing with

rubbing
> alcohol before it could disappear under his skin. He then squeezed a
> simi-mature specimen out of a cow's skin to show what they look like. The
> "mature" larvae crawls out on it's own when ready, and drops into the
> roughage on the ground to morph into another mature Bot Fly.
>
> Now we know :o/
>
> --
>
> (Y)
> (°-°)
> --()-,-()--<{@
> (_)-(_)
> "It's because of the ears"
>
> HB, Chelsea, Ginger, Reeser, Jasmine =:o)
> (Bandit, SweetPea, Pipkin, Jessica & Scamper from the bridge)
>
>
>
>


joe@invalid.address
"HB" <fastforty@invalid.hotmail.com> writes:

> I did a LOT of online research about these little buggers when
> Ginger & Reese got nailed. There was a lot of theory, but nothing
> really concrete about the lifecycle & means of
> transmission. Tonight, National Geographic did a special about all
> kinds of creepy insects. The guy that hosted the show was a real
> insect nut and explained the whole deal. He had live specimens and
> documented everything you are about to read on video.


Do you know if the video is available? I didn't see anything about
this at their web site.

Joe
Joyce Reynolds-Ward
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 22:04:18 -0700, "HB"
<fastforty@invalid.hotmail.com> wrote:

>I did a LOT of online research about these little buggers when Ginger &
>Reese got nailed. There was a lot of theory, but nothing really concrete
>about the lifecycle & means of transmission. Tonight, National Geographic
>did a special about all kinds of creepy insects. The guy that hosted the
>show was a real insect nut and explained the whole deal. He had live
>specimens and documented everything you are about to read on video.


I have some real problems with this account.

For one thing, what I know of as "bot" flies are the large flies which
lay short yellow eggs on horse legs. Those eggs are taken up into the
horse's gut when the horse scratches its legs and swallows.

The type of fly you describe is one I know of as the warble fly.

jrw
Laurie
With inimitable style, Joyce Reynolds-Ward posted:

> For one thing, what I know of as "bot" flies are the large flies which
> lay short yellow eggs on horse legs. Those eggs are taken up into the
> horse's gut when the horse scratches its legs and swallows.
>
> The type of fly you describe is one I know of as the warble fly.


Interesting - from what I've read here I *thought* the immature bot larvae
was called a "warble" once it was inside the host.

Laurie <squirming uncomfortably at this entire thread>


\X\
Hmm..never heard the part about the "house fly" before. I thought they only
left their eggs on mosquitos and other "blood sucking" type insects. They
also will leave their eggs on plants waiting for host's to happen by.


Don

"HB" <fastforty@invalid.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bgcs8o$8k2$1@news.chatlink.com...
> I did a LOT of online research about these little buggers when Ginger &
> Reese got nailed. There was a lot of theory, but nothing really concrete
> about the lifecycle & means of transmission. Tonight, National Geographic
> did a special about all kinds of creepy insects. The guy that hosted the
> show was a real insect nut and explained the whole deal. He had live
> specimens and documented everything you are about to read on video.
>
> The mature fly chases down an ordinary housefly, catches it, and lays a
> dozen or so eggs on the housefly's underbelly (each Bot Fly will do this

to
> as many as 18 houseflies). When the host housefly lands on an animal, the
> heat from the animal causes the larvae to hatch, within *seconds* (video

of
> housefly landing on his arm, larvae hatching almost instantaneously &
> starting to crawl into a pore in his skin). He killed the thing with

rubbing
> alcohol before it could disappear under his skin. He then squeezed a
> simi-mature specimen out of a cow's skin to show what they look like. The
> "mature" larvae crawls out on it's own when ready, and drops into the
> roughage on the ground to morph into another mature Bot Fly.
>
> Now we know :o/
>
> --
>
> (Y)
> (°-°)
> --()-,-()--<{@
> (_)-(_)
> "It's because of the ears"
>
> HB, Chelsea, Ginger, Reeser, Jasmine =:o)
> (Bandit, SweetPea, Pipkin, Jessica & Scamper from the bridge)
>
>
>
>



Joyce Reynolds-Ward
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 21:34:49 GMT, "Laurie"
<laurietrice@attbiDONTSPAMME.com> wrote:

>With inimitable style, Joyce Reynolds-Ward posted:
>
>> For one thing, what I know of as "bot" flies are the large flies which
>> lay short yellow eggs on horse legs. Those eggs are taken up into the
>> horse's gut when the horse scratches its legs and swallows.
>>
>> The type of fly you describe is one I know of as the warble fly.

>
>Interesting - from what I've read here I *thought* the immature bot larvae
>was called a "warble" once it was inside the host.


Not from my knowledge. Warbles are subcutaneous larvae. Bots are
intestinal larvae. You use oral deworming agents on horses for bots.
The sort of fly you're talking about with fly strike is what I've
known as the warble fly.

jrw
\X\
There are many spieces of "bots"...some intestinal, some not. "Warbles" is
simply the name given to the external botflies when they are burrowed in the
skin. The "bump" in the skin is called a warble. Least that's my
understanding of it:-)

Don

"Joyce Reynolds-Ward" <jrw@aracnet.com> wrote in message
news:3f2b0bf8.1496464@news.aracnet.com...
> On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 21:34:49 GMT, "Laurie"
> <laurietrice@attbiDONTSPAMME.com> wrote:
>
> >With inimitable style, Joyce Reynolds-Ward posted:
> >
> >> For one thing, what I know of as "bot" flies are the large flies which
> >> lay short yellow eggs on horse legs. Those eggs are taken up into the
> >> horse's gut when the horse scratches its legs and swallows.
> >>
> >> The type of fly you describe is one I know of as the warble fly.

> >
> >Interesting - from what I've read here I *thought* the immature bot

larvae
> >was called a "warble" once it was inside the host.

>
> Not from my knowledge. Warbles are subcutaneous larvae. Bots are
> intestinal larvae. You use oral deworming agents on horses for bots.
> The sort of fly you're talking about with fly strike is what I've
> known as the warble fly.
>
> jrw



Robin
that's really interesting, AND gross!--i started watching that show too, but
turned it off--thanks for the info--btw, i hope u don't mind, but i copied
ur signature bunny--i think it's just too precious--
-Robin

"HB" <fastforty@invalid.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bgcs8o$8k2$1@news.chatlink.com...
> I did a LOT of online research about these little buggers when Ginger &
> Reese got nailed. There was a lot of theory, but nothing really concrete
> about the lifecycle & means of transmission. Tonight, National Geographic
> did a special about all kinds of creepy insects. The guy that hosted the
> show was a real insect nut and explained the whole deal. He had live
> specimens and documented everything you are about to read on video.
>
> The mature fly chases down an ordinary housefly, catches it, and lays a
> dozen or so eggs on the housefly's underbelly (each Bot Fly will do this

to
> as many as 18 houseflies). When the host housefly lands on an animal, the
> heat from the animal causes the larvae to hatch, within *seconds* (video

of
> housefly landing on his arm, larvae hatching almost instantaneously &
> starting to crawl into a pore in his skin). He killed the thing with

rubbing
> alcohol before it could disappear under his skin. He then squeezed a
> simi-mature specimen out of a cow's skin to show what they look like. The
> "mature" larvae crawls out on it's own when ready, and drops into the
> roughage on the ground to morph into another mature Bot Fly.
>
> Now we know :o/
>
> --
>
> (Y)
> (°-°)
> --()-,-()--<{@
> (_)-(_)
> "It's because of the ears"
>
> HB, Chelsea, Ginger, Reeser, Jasmine =:o)
> (Bandit, SweetPea, Pipkin, Jessica & Scamper from the bridge)
>
>
>
>



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Rhonda
Okay, here's what I found:

Warbles

<http://www.michigan.gov/images/warbles_20091_7.jpg>

Description and Distribution

Warbles are the larval stage of the botfly, which characteristically
infect rodents and rabbits. They are found under the skin, usually
around the legs and neck. They have also been reported from deer,
cattle, cats, dogs, hogs, mules, mink, foxes and man. The adult botflies
are large (20 mm or more in length) and dark blue or black with fine,
dense hairs on the face, genae and thorax.

Rhonda

\"X\" wrote:

> There are many spieces of "bots"...some intestinal, some not. "Warbles" is
> simply the name given to the external botflies when they are burrowed in the
> skin. The "bump" in the skin is called a warble. Least that's my
> understanding of it:-)
>
> Don
>
> "Joyce Reynolds-Ward" <jrw@aracnet.com> wrote in message
> news:3f2b0bf8.1496464@news.aracnet.com...
>
>>On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 21:34:49 GMT, "Laurie"
>><laurietrice@attbiDONTSPAMME.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>With inimitable style, Joyce Reynolds-Ward posted:
>>>
>>>
>>>>For one thing, what I know of as "bot" flies are the large flies which
>>>>lay short yellow eggs on horse legs. Those eggs are taken up into the
>>>>horse's gut when the horse scratches its legs and swallows.
>>>>
>>>>The type of fly you describe is one I know of as the warble fly.
>>>>
>>>Interesting - from what I've read here I *thought* the immature bot
>>>

> larvae
>
>>>was called a "warble" once it was inside the host.
>>>

>>Not from my knowledge. Warbles are subcutaneous larvae. Bots are
>>intestinal larvae. You use oral deworming agents on horses for bots.
>>The sort of fly you're talking about with fly strike is what I've
>>known as the warble fly.
>>
>>jrw
>>

>
>




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