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| Amy Cooper |
I just got off the phone with my local vet. The lady I spoke with said they
do distemper but not rabies. That doesnt make since to me. Does anyone
know if I am able to do it myself? Ive always gavedone my cats there own
distemper shots. Wow, I am learning a lot in this news group. Thanks in
advance for everyones help and thanks for all the kindness I have got from
you all
Amy
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| Jason and Holly Harper |
Hmm...seems a little unusual. But to the best of my knowledge no you cannot
give your own rabies vaccine. I believe that has to be administered by a
vet for it to accepted by law. You really should pick up Ferrets for
Dummies by Kim Schilling. It's a ferret bible and I know most if not all
here would recommend you read it. :)
Holly
"Amy Cooper" <Amy.Cooper@Charter.net> wrote in message
news:W9XBe.106$JO3.8@fe04.lga...
>I just got off the phone with my local vet. The lady I spoke with said
>they do distemper but not rabies. That doesnt make since to me. Does
>anyone know if I am able to do it myself? Ive always gavedone my cats
>there own distemper shots. Wow, I am learning a lot in this news group.
>Thanks in advance for everyones help and thanks for all the kindness I have
>got from you all
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> Amy
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| sam |
My vet gave mine distemper but said as long as its an indoor pet why risk
the side effects of a rabies shot.
"Amy Cooper" <Amy.Cooper@Charter.net> wrote in message
news:W9XBe.106$JO3.8@fe04.lga...
>I just got off the phone with my local vet. The lady I spoke with said
>they do distemper but not rabies. That doesnt make since to me. Does
>anyone know if I am able to do it myself? Ive always gavedone my cats
>there own distemper shots. Wow, I am learning a lot in this news group.
>Thanks in advance for everyones help and thanks for all the kindness I have
>got from you all
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> Amy
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| Amy Cooper |
They are required where I live. I could loose my ferrets if they dont get
the shot.
:-(
Amy
"sam" <sam@sammynotthere.com> wrote in message
news:nJ-dnVTUx5EKxkXfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> My vet gave mine distemper but said as long as its an indoor pet why risk
> the side effects of a rabies shot.
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> "Amy Cooper" <Amy.Cooper@Charter.net> wrote in message
> news:W9XBe.106$JO3.8@fe04.lga...
>>I just got off the phone with my local vet. The lady I spoke with said
>>they do distemper but not rabies. That doesnt make since to me. Does
>>anyone know if I am able to do it myself? Ive always gavedone my cats
>>there own distemper shots. Wow, I am learning a lot in this news group.
>>Thanks in advance for everyones help and thanks for all the kindness I
>>have got from you all
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>> Amy
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| Jason and Holly Harper |
Then why in the world won't your vet give the rabies vaccine?? That's
weird. And as for side effects, it's usually the distemper vaccine that
causes the most reactions. I'd definitely find another vet, Amy.
Holly
"Amy Cooper" <Amy.Cooper@Charter.net> wrote in message
news:5dZBe.405$JO3.100@fe04.lga...
> They are required where I live. I could loose my ferrets if they dont get
> the shot.
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> :-(
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> Amy
> "sam" <sam@sammynotthere.com> wrote in message
> news:nJ-dnVTUx5EKxkXfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> My vet gave mine distemper but said as long as its an indoor pet why risk
>> the side effects of a rabies shot.
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>> "Amy Cooper" <Amy.Cooper@Charter.net> wrote in message
>> news:W9XBe.106$JO3.8@fe04.lga...
>>>I just got off the phone with my local vet. The lady I spoke with said
>>>they do distemper but not rabies. That doesnt make since to me. Does
>>>anyone know if I am able to do it myself? Ive always gavedone my cats
>>>there own distemper shots. Wow, I am learning a lot in this news group.
>>>Thanks in advance for everyones help and thanks for all the kindness I
>>>have got from you all
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>>> Amy
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| swamp |
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:41:22 GMT, "Jason and Holly Harper"
<jhharper@tm.net> wrote:
>Hmm...seems a little unusual. But to the best of my knowledge no you cannot
>give your own rabies vaccine. I believe that has to be administered by a
>vet for it to accepted by law.
That is absolutely, 100%, guaranteed correct. In the US, ferrets must
be given Imrab-3 (Merial) yearly by a licensed DVM 90+ days after
birth or PH authorities will give it zero value. It probably lasts
longer, but there are no studies to support that assertion.
>You really should pick up Ferrets for
>Dummies by Kim Schilling. It's a ferret bible and I know most if not all
>here would recommend you read it. :)
Once again, I'll decline from recommending one book over another if
ya'all don't mind, but I agree every new owner should buy at least one
of them.
>Holly
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>"Amy Cooper" <Amy.Cooper@Charter.net> wrote in message
>news:W9XBe.106$JO3.8@fe04.lga...
>>I just got off the phone with my local vet. The lady I spoke with said
>>they do distemper but not rabies. That doesnt make since to me. Does
>>anyone know if I am able to do it myself? Ive always gavedone my cats
>>there own distemper shots. Wow, I am learning a lot in this news group.
>>Thanks in advance for everyones help and thanks for all the kindness I have
>>got from you all
Ferrets rarely get rabies, and when they do, they rarely shed the
disease. It typically kills them before the virus reaches saliva.
There isn't a single documented case of a ferret transmitting rabies
to another animal. Ever.
>> Amy
swamp
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"Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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| sam |
You can bring distemper in your house on your shoes.
Rabies must be transmitted with a bite.
Correct me if im wrong :)
"Jason and Holly Harper" <jhharper@tm.net> wrote in message
news:PTZBe.2329$Q75.436359@newshog.newsread.com...
> Then why in the world won't your vet give the rabies vaccine?? That's
> weird. And as for side effects, it's usually the distemper vaccine that
> causes the most reactions. I'd definitely find another vet, Amy.
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> Holly
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> "Amy Cooper" <Amy.Cooper@Charter.net> wrote in message
> news:5dZBe.405$JO3.100@fe04.lga...
>> They are required where I live. I could loose my ferrets if they dont
>> get the shot.
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>> :-(
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>> Amy
>> "sam" <sam@sammynotthere.com> wrote in message
>> news:nJ-dnVTUx5EKxkXfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>>> My vet gave mine distemper but said as long as its an indoor pet why
>>> risk the side effects of a rabies shot.
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>>> "Amy Cooper" <Amy.Cooper@Charter.net> wrote in message
>>> news:W9XBe.106$JO3.8@fe04.lga...
>>>>I just got off the phone with my local vet. The lady I spoke with said
>>>>they do distemper but not rabies. That doesnt make since to me. Does
>>>>anyone know if I am able to do it myself? Ive always gavedone my cats
>>>>there own distemper shots. Wow, I am learning a lot in this news group.
>>>>Thanks in advance for everyones help and thanks for all the kindness I
>>>>have got from you all
>>>>
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>>>> Amy
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| Sandy and the Dook City Gang |
No, it has been proven that it can be transmitted via airborn, but the
animals they used were kept in a bat cave. I think normally it's by a
bite. Can't remember what show that was either. Probably National
Geographic.
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| Sandy and the Dook City Gang |
Rabies, that is.
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| lighthouseferret@aol.com |
Swamp,
Your post leaves much to be desired for the effectivity of the Center
For Disease Control. Just this past year the Maryland'd Oxford Ferret
Rescue's Shelter Director - Claudia Johnson, Vet - Dr. Keith Gold
(Chadwell Animal Clinic) , and vet Tech had to undergo the rabies
series.
This was necessary as a stray ferret was brought into the shelter/
Upwards of 30 days later, the ferret was euthanized for chronic wasting
and aggressiveness. The keen sense of the shelter mom, Claudia
Johnson, asked that a rabies be done, included in the necropsy. The
rabies result was positive.
Not only was this ferret capable of transmitting to other animals, it
sucessfully transmitted to humans.
All humans that came in contact with the ferret underwent rabies
treatment. All three had been biten. Because the ferret stayed in
isolation during it's shelter time, no rabies was transmitted.
So, I beg to differ with you with your relaxed stance on rabies. A
ferret, or any animal, merely needs to share a water source to
cross-contaminate
swamp wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:41:22 GMT, "Jason and Holly Harper"
> <jhharper@tm.net> wrote:
>
> >Hmm...seems a little unusual. But to the best of my knowledge no you cannot
> >give your own rabies vaccine. I believe that has to be administered by a
> >vet for it to accepted by law.
>
> That is absolutely, 100%, guaranteed correct. In the US, ferrets must
> be given Imrab-3 (Merial) yearly by a licensed DVM 90+ days after
> birth or PH authorities will give it zero value. It probably lasts
> longer, but there are no studies to support that assertion.
>
> >You really should pick up Ferrets for
> >Dummies by Kim Schilling. It's a ferret bible and I know most if not all
> >here would recommend you read it. :)
>
> Once again, I'll decline from recommending one book over another if
> ya'all don't mind, but I agree every new owner should buy at least one
> of them.
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> >Holly
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> >"Amy Cooper" <Amy.Cooper@Charter.net> wrote in message
> >news:W9XBe.106$JO3.8@fe04.lga...
> >>I just got off the phone with my local vet. The lady I spoke with said
> >>they do distemper but not rabies. That doesnt make since to me. Does
> >>anyone know if I am able to do it myself? Ive always gavedone my cats
> >>there own distemper shots. Wow, I am learning a lot in this news group.
> >>Thanks in advance for everyones help and thanks for all the kindness I have
> >>got from you all
>
> Ferrets rarely get rabies, and when they do, they rarely shed the
> disease. It typically kills them before the virus reaches saliva.
> There isn't a single documented case of a ferret transmitting rabies
> to another animal. Ever.
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> >> Amy
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> swamp
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> "Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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| swamp |
On 16 Jul 2005 09:25:10 -0700, lighthouseferret@aol.com wrote:
> Swamp,
>Your post leaves much to be desired for the effectivity of the Center
>For Disease Control. Just this past year the Maryland'd Oxford Ferret
>Rescue's Shelter Director - Claudia Johnson, Vet - Dr. Keith Gold
>(Chadwell Animal Clinic) , and vet Tech had to undergo the rabies
>series.
>
>This was necessary as a stray ferret was brought into the shelter/
>Upwards of 30 days later, the ferret was euthanized for chronic wasting
>and aggressiveness. The keen sense of the shelter mom, Claudia
>Johnson, asked that a rabies be done, included in the necropsy. The
>rabies result was positive.
Interesting. That's the first I've heard of a rabid ferret biting a
human outside of a lab.
>Not only was this ferret capable of transmitting to other animals, it
>sucessfully transmitted to humans.
Not necessarily so. Unless virus was present in saliva, the ferret was
incapable of transmitting the disease. Ferrets, unlike raccoons and
cats, are not intermittent shedders. And unless one of the humans or
other ferrets contracted rabies, then there was no successful
transmission.
This isn't to say that post-exposure treatment (PET) wasn't necessary.
Rabies is fatal in 99.99% of human cases so I can see why Ms. Johnson
& company didn't mess around. otoh, there have been hysterical
reactions to positive findings. A kitten in a pet store window was
diagnosed w/ rabies and 87 people showed up at hospitals demanding
PET, including a woman who *looked at* the kitten thru the glass.
The point is, we can't be certain that PET prevented Ms. Johnson et al
from getting rabies and hopefully we won't find out otherwise. You
didn't provide a date when all this went down, and rabies has been
known to take as long as 300 days to incubate in humans. Fortunately,
no one who's undergone PET (as per NIH protocol) has ever contracted
the disease.
>All humans that came in contact with the ferret underwent rabies
>treatment. All three had been biten. Because the ferret stayed in
>isolation during it's shelter time, no rabies was transmitted.
Again, you're jumping to the conclusion that the ferret would have
transmitted rabies had it not been isolated. That isn't necessarily
so. Just out of curiosity, were any saliva swabbings taken?
>So, I beg to differ with you with your relaxed stance on rabies. A
>ferret, or any animal, merely needs to share a water source to
>cross-contaminate
Feel free to disagree w/ me; I enjoy a good debate. However, the
rabies issues are many and complicated, making it easy to take a
position counter to an unmade claim or argument.
I've never heard of rabies being transmitted via water, and I've read
quite a bit on the subject. It is *suspected* that airborne
transmission is possible. Several spelunkers contracted a bat strain
of rabies and had no recollection of being bitten. Shortly before
death, lesions appeared around and in their noses and mouths,
indicating oral/nasal infection. It is common for lesions to appear at
the original infecting bite location in the advanced stage of the
disease. There was a similar case in St. Louis where a woman routinely
cleaned up bat droppings outside her office. Humans will sometimes
shed the virus in their tears, but I've never heard of it in ferrets.
afaik, the only way ferrets (and animals other than bats) can transmit
is thru a bite.
While it's true that any *mammal* (w/ the possible exception of water
mammals) can transmit the disease, ferrets are an extremely poor
vector. They typically die before the virus reaches saliva even when
they contract the "mad" form of the disease.
Thus, I would argue that my stance is more realistic than "relaxed,"
and as long as folks in Maryland are alive, I continue to maintain
that there is no documented case of a ferret ever transmitting the
disease to another animal.
>swamp wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:41:22 GMT, "Jason and Holly Harper"
>> <jhharper@tm.net> wrote:
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>> >Hmm...seems a little unusual. But to the best of my knowledge no you cannot
>> >give your own rabies vaccine. I believe that has to be administered by a
>> >vet for it to accepted by law.
>>
>> That is absolutely, 100%, guaranteed correct. In the US, ferrets must
>> be given Imrab-3 (Merial) yearly by a licensed DVM 90+ days after
>> birth or PH authorities will give it zero value. It probably lasts
>> longer, but there are no studies to support that assertion.
>>
>> >You really should pick up Ferrets for
>> >Dummies by Kim Schilling. It's a ferret bible and I know most if not all
>> >here would recommend you read it. :)
>>
>> Once again, I'll decline from recommending one book over another if
>> ya'all don't mind, but I agree every new owner should buy at least one
>> of them.
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>> >Holly
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>> >"Amy Cooper" <Amy.Cooper@Charter.net> wrote in message
>> >news:W9XBe.106$JO3.8@fe04.lga...
>> >>I just got off the phone with my local vet. The lady I spoke with said
>> >>they do distemper but not rabies. That doesnt make since to me. Does
>> >>anyone know if I am able to do it myself? Ive always gavedone my cats
>> >>there own distemper shots. Wow, I am learning a lot in this news group.
>> >>Thanks in advance for everyones help and thanks for all the kindness I have
>> >>got from you all
>>
>> Ferrets rarely get rabies, and when they do, they rarely shed the
>> disease. It typically kills them before the virus reaches saliva.
>> There isn't a single documented case of a ferret transmitting rabies
>> to another animal. Ever.
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>> >> Amy
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>> swamp
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>> "Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
swamp
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"Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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