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| Cinnamon Sprite |
I'm hoping he's made some improvement!
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| lighthouseferret@aol.com |
Yes, how is he?
Millie
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| Sandy and the Dook City Gang |
I'm curious too.
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| Jason and Holly Harper |
Glad I'm not the only one wondering about the little guy. Sure hope he's
doing better.
Holly
"Cinnamon Sprite" <webmistress@cinnamonsprite.net> wrote in message
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> I'm hoping he's made some improvement!
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| Brian S. |
Sorry for not posting about him. I finally got out for the 4th to have a
little fun. He no longer will eat any treats. He is being fed, not forced
fed per se. He gets 3 feedings and still has kibble in the cage which seems
to grow smaller and a water bowl and a bottle. He has not found the bottle
so i catch him drinking the from the bowl from time to time.
He is on Metacam (once a day) and cipro two times a day. He does not sleep
in the hammy, he sleeps on tshirts and sweat shirts now and only goes to the
bottom level to go to the bathroom, there is a tent there as well but i have
not seen him in there as of late.
I fear as though he is loosing strength in his hind quarters which would be
the mystery thing. As of now it is a support thing, i am not sure if as of
yet what is is and either does my vet. Hopefully the diags from the
pathologist will come back. i had the biopsy done and he hasnt been the same
since but he does not have cancer. it seems that the white blood cells are
high and they went off to a pathologist for more results..
he is on another med for his stomach in case there was stress,
metatranzionale (sp) and i need to get more of that. Does anytone know if
that is really helpful at all?
I am pulling for this guy. He is blind still and I don't think that is
helping this situation.
thanks everyone.
brian s.
"Jason and Holly Harper" <jhharper@tm.net> wrote in message
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> Glad I'm not the only one wondering about the little guy. Sure hope he's
> doing better.
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> Holly
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> "Cinnamon Sprite" <webmistress@cinnamonsprite.net> wrote in message
> news:1120439849.989527.113430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> I'm hoping he's made some improvement!
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| Joan |
Prayers and good thoughts for Buster from here.
Brian S. wrote:
> Sorry for not posting about him. I finally got out for the 4th to have a
> little fun. He no longer will eat any treats. He is being fed, not forced
> fed per se. He gets 3 feedings and still has kibble in the cage which seems
> to grow smaller and a water bowl and a bottle. He has not found the bottle
> so i catch him drinking the from the bowl from time to time.
>
> He is on Metacam (once a day) and cipro two times a day. He does not sleep
> in the hammy, he sleeps on tshirts and sweat shirts now and only goes to the
> bottom level to go to the bathroom, there is a tent there as well but i have
> not seen him in there as of late.
>
> I fear as though he is loosing strength in his hind quarters which would be
> the mystery thing. As of now it is a support thing, i am not sure if as of
> yet what is is and either does my vet. Hopefully the diags from the
> pathologist will come back. i had the biopsy done and he hasnt been the same
> since but he does not have cancer. it seems that the white blood cells are
> high and they went off to a pathologist for more results..
>
> he is on another med for his stomach in case there was stress,
> metatranzionale (sp) and i need to get more of that. Does anytone know if
> that is really helpful at all?
>
> I am pulling for this guy. He is blind still and I don't think that is
> helping this situation.
>
>
> thanks everyone.
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> brian s.
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> "Jason and Holly Harper" <jhharper@tm.net> wrote in message
> news:Uplye.1826$Q75.281124@newshog.newsread.com...
> > Glad I'm not the only one wondering about the little guy. Sure hope he's
> > doing better.
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> > Holly
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> > "Cinnamon Sprite" <webmistress@cinnamonsprite.net> wrote in message
> > news:1120439849.989527.113430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> I'm hoping he's made some improvement!
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> >
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| Paul E. Jamison |
"Brian S." <deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Sorry for not posting about him. I finally got out for the 4th to have a
> little fun. He no longer will eat any treats. He is being fed, not forced
> fed per se. He gets 3 feedings and still has kibble in the cage which
seems
> to grow smaller and a water bowl and a bottle. He has not found the bottle
> so i catch him drinking the from the bowl from time to time.
>
> He is on Metacam (once a day) and cipro two times a day. He does not
sleep
> in the hammy, he sleeps on tshirts and sweat shirts now and only goes to
the
> bottom level to go to the bathroom, there is a tent there as well but i
have
> not seen him in there as of late.
>
> I fear as though he is loosing strength in his hind quarters which would
be
> the mystery thing. As of now it is a support thing, i am not sure if as of
> yet what is is and either does my vet. Hopefully the diags from the
> pathologist will come back. i had the biopsy done and he hasnt been the
same
> since but he does not have cancer. it seems that the white blood cells are
> high and they went off to a pathologist for more results..
>
> he is on another med for his stomach in case there was stress,
> metatranzionale (sp) and i need to get more of that. Does anytone know if
> that is really helpful at all?
>
> I am pulling for this guy. He is blind still and I don't think that is
> helping this situation.
>
> thanks everyone.
>
Thinking good thoughts for Buster.
Paul
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"Who reads, learns, lives the Ferret Way becomes keeper
of light, ennobling outer worlds from one within."
- a prophecy from the Ancients
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| Jason and Holly Harper |
Poor little guy. :( Give him some love from us.
And please, let us know what the pathologist finds out.
Holly
"Brian S." <deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:OZGdnQaiMPHE3FffRVn-ow@comcast.com...
> Sorry for not posting about him. I finally got out for the 4th to have a
> little fun. He no longer will eat any treats. He is being fed, not forced
> fed per se. He gets 3 feedings and still has kibble in the cage which
> seems to grow smaller and a water bowl and a bottle. He has not found the
> bottle so i catch him drinking the from the bowl from time to time.
>
> He is on Metacam (once a day) and cipro two times a day. He does not
> sleep in the hammy, he sleeps on tshirts and sweat shirts now and only
> goes to the bottom level to go to the bathroom, there is a tent there as
> well but i have not seen him in there as of late.
>
> I fear as though he is loosing strength in his hind quarters which would
> be the mystery thing. As of now it is a support thing, i am not sure if as
> of yet what is is and either does my vet. Hopefully the diags from the
> pathologist will come back. i had the biopsy done and he hasnt been the
> same since but he does not have cancer. it seems that the white blood
> cells are high and they went off to a pathologist for more results..
>
> he is on another med for his stomach in case there was stress,
> metatranzionale (sp) and i need to get more of that. Does anytone know if
> that is really helpful at all?
>
> I am pulling for this guy. He is blind still and I don't think that is
> helping this situation.
>
>
> thanks everyone.
>
> brian s.
>
> "Jason and Holly Harper" <jhharper@tm.net> wrote in message
> news:Uplye.1826$Q75.281124@newshog.newsread.com...
>> Glad I'm not the only one wondering about the little guy. Sure hope he's
>> doing better.
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>> Holly
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>> "Cinnamon Sprite" <webmistress@cinnamonsprite.net> wrote in message
>> news:1120439849.989527.113430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> I'm hoping he's made some improvement!
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| lighthouseferret@aol.com |
Buster will stay in my thoughts and prayers.
Millie
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| bluedolphinoh69 |
I wish you and Buster the best, Brian! Tanya
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| myself |
Sounds like Buster is tough. Good wishes for your baby always.
Myself
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| Cinnamon Sprite |
Brian S. wrote:
> he is on another med for his stomach in case there was stress,
> metatranzionale (sp) and i need to get more of that. Does anytone know if
> that is really helpful at all?
Metronidazole, also called Flagyl, is an antibacterial medication
commonly used for treating intestinal problems in ferrets. It's
supposed to be very effective though it's extremely bitter tasting, so
it can be difficult getting it into the ferret.
I'm sorry there hasn't been any improvement yet, Brian. How long will
it be before the path results are in? Hopefully they'll be helpdful!
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| Brian S. |
Thanks everyone. Thanks......... The path results should be in by the end of
this week. They already had one path from the biopsy and it was nothing more
than high white blood cell count with a note on it that it is the mystery
disease. Not 100% but there was a note on there so another cbc was done and
it was slightly higher with the white blood cells, so they were sent over
again. As I said they should be back this week. I suppose I will get the
mettronidazole again, he takes that well but the real one he hates is the
cipro. it is foul and i can even smell it from the syringe.
On top of all of this he is blind. What a difference from being a young kid,
jumping all over the place to seeing this. All I can say is that he is
gaining weight. so maybe I should cut back on the high calorie stuff and try
to get him more kibble, which i have seen him do. Sad part is that he is
hooked on the chicken and gravy and a little cream mixed in.
Once again thanks for everyones thoughts and help. i can only support him
and try to get him better along with the vet..
thanks for your thoughts.
brian
"Cinnamon Sprite" <webmistress@cinnamonsprite.net> wrote in message
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> Brian S. wrote:
>> he is on another med for his stomach in case there was stress,
>> metatranzionale (sp) and i need to get more of that. Does anytone know if
>> that is really helpful at all?
>
> Metronidazole, also called Flagyl, is an antibacterial medication
> commonly used for treating intestinal problems in ferrets. It's
> supposed to be very effective though it's extremely bitter tasting, so
> it can be difficult getting it into the ferret.
>
> I'm sorry there hasn't been any improvement yet, Brian. How long will
> it be before the path results are in? Hopefully they'll be helpdful!
>
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On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:37:21 -0400, "Brian S." <deadhead73@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Thanks everyone. Thanks......... The path results should be in by the end of
>this week. They already had one path from the biopsy and it was nothing more
>than high white blood cell count with a note on it that it is the mystery
>disease. Not 100% but there was a note on there so another cbc was done and
>it was slightly higher with the white blood cells, so they were sent over
>again. As I said they should be back this week. I suppose I will get the
>mettronidazole again, he takes that well but the real one he hates is the
>cipro. it is foul and i can even smell it from the syringe.
Can you post cbc data here or on FHL? [too many idiots wasting
bandwidth here at the moment]. Ferrets seem to universally hate cipro
and flagyl. Metro's kind of boring but if they'll take it and it does
the job then I'd let it go. How 'bout an eye/saliva culture or stool
sample? Seems to me you might want to know what you're fighting before
fighting it. Keflex is broad spectrum. Not bad as a last shot. Just
throwing out ideas... Folks on FHL will know more.
>On top of all of this he is blind.
Cataracts..or no?
>What a difference from being a young kid,
>jumping all over the place to seeing this. All I can say is that he is
>gaining weight. so maybe I should cut back on the high calorie stuff and try
>to get him more kibble, which i have seen him do. Sad part is that he is
>hooked on the chicken and gravy and a little cream mixed in.
Sounds like you're doing fine. If he's gaining weight you're gaining
ground. Weaning him from soup back to kibble is the next step. Took me
6 weeks once to get Mike from syringe to finger to bowl to feed trough
(kibble). He lived another 8 years.
Check the cbc details and let us know.
>Once again thanks for everyones thoughts and help. i can only support him
>and try to get him better along with the vet..
>
>thanks for your thoughts.
>
>brian
Hang in there Brian. It's a pita, but seeing them recover is worth
every minute,
swamp
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"Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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| Brian S. |
the first cbc was fine, than they did the biop which came back high with
white blood so than they sent out another, i don't have that yet. I just
know they said it was high and i never thought of getting the figure off
them. I will call and have them fax it. can you throw me the link to fhl?
as far as stool it is about 2 a day and it is a little more black than
usual. but the vet had done a culture on him last week and said it was ok.
the two or maybe three that come out are, as i think a result of the chicken
and cream. I will take another over there. everytime they check his temp he
passes one and it looks good.
eyesight was confirmed in a dark room where they do in house xray developing
etc. he sees some shadows perhaps, but most of the sensory comes with the
guard hairs (that is what i call them) by his mouth area. Anything further
away he does not realize.
as for now i hope i can get him more stable and get him to use his hind
quarters more. he uses them and than after 30 seconds is ready for a nap. it
is taxing.
i know it is hard on him. he doesnt like snacks or toys now. just the basics
of life. as long as he is licking the syringe and getting a drink while i am
asleep, as well as, looking when i say Buster than certainly I am going to
do whatever it is I can.
brian
"swamp" <swamp92@> wrote in message
news:6qmmc1p6kq11v9u1rm8lm8jiq947poanag@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:37:21 -0400, "Brian S." <deadhead73@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Thanks everyone. Thanks......... The path results should be in by the end
>>of
>>this week. They already had one path from the biopsy and it was nothing
>>more
>>than high white blood cell count with a note on it that it is the mystery
>>disease. Not 100% but there was a note on there so another cbc was done
>>and
>>it was slightly higher with the white blood cells, so they were sent over
>>again. As I said they should be back this week. I suppose I will get the
>>mettronidazole again, he takes that well but the real one he hates is the
>>cipro. it is foul and i can even smell it from the syringe.
>
> Can you post cbc data here or on FHL? [too many idiots wasting
> bandwidth here at the moment]. Ferrets seem to universally hate cipro
> and flagyl. Metro's kind of boring but if they'll take it and it does
> the job then I'd let it go. How 'bout an eye/saliva culture or stool
> sample? Seems to me you might want to know what you're fighting before
> fighting it. Keflex is broad spectrum. Not bad as a last shot. Just
> throwing out ideas... Folks on FHL will know more.
>
>>On top of all of this he is blind.
>
> Cataracts..or no?
>
>>What a difference from being a young kid,
>>jumping all over the place to seeing this. All I can say is that he is
>>gaining weight. so maybe I should cut back on the high calorie stuff and
>>try
>>to get him more kibble, which i have seen him do. Sad part is that he is
>>hooked on the chicken and gravy and a little cream mixed in.
>
> Sounds like you're doing fine. If he's gaining weight you're gaining
> ground. Weaning him from soup back to kibble is the next step. Took me
> 6 weeks once to get Mike from syringe to finger to bowl to feed trough
> (kibble). He lived another 8 years.
>
> Check the cbc details and let us know.
>
>>Once again thanks for everyones thoughts and help. i can only support him
>>and try to get him better along with the vet..
>>
>>thanks for your thoughts.
>>
>>brian
>
> Hang in there Brian. It's a pita, but seeing them recover is worth
> every minute,
>
> swamp
>
> --
>
> "Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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You go Buster.
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| Daring_daisy_do |
Oh Brian. Bless your heart. Buster is still in my thoughts and
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Lynn-
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On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:20:06 -0400, "Brian S." <deadhead73@comcast.net>
wrote:
>the first cbc was fine, than they did the biop which came back high with
>white blood so than they sent out another, i don't have that yet. I just
>know they said it was high and i never thought of getting the figure off
>them. I will call and have them fax it. can you throw me the link to fhl?
Sure:
mailto:ferrethealth-digest-subscribe@smartgroups.com
If you're paying for the cbc you're certainly entitled to a copy of
its results. I'd insist on it.
>as far as stool it is about 2 a day and it is a little more black than
>usual. but the vet had done a culture on him last week and said it was ok.
>the two or maybe three that come out are, as i think a result of the chicken
>and cream. I will take another over there. everytime they check his temp he
>passes one and it looks good.
Hmm. Mine have presented somewhat "blonder" stools when they're
getting heavy cream. The consistency firms up as they get well. That's
when I start moving them back to their regular diet.
>eyesight was confirmed in a dark room where they do in house xray developing
>etc. he sees some shadows perhaps, but most of the sensory comes with the
>guard hairs (that is what i call them) by his mouth area. Anything further
>away he does not realize.
As others have said, ferrets aren't nearly as dependent on eyesight as
we are. For that matter, none of mine have had good eyeballs even when
they were young and healthy.
>as for now i hope i can get him more stable and get him to use his hind
>quarters more. he uses them and than after 30 seconds is ready for a nap. it
>is taxing.
When he's feeling better he'll start using his rear wheels more. Mike
was off his for almost 2 months, then came back strong. Hind end
paresis is one of the first presentations in a sick ferret.
>i know it is hard on him. he doesnt like snacks or toys now. just the basics
>of life. as long as he is licking the syringe and getting a drink while i am
>asleep, as well as, looking when i say Buster than certainly I am going to
>do whatever it is I can.
I don't know much about this "mystery" disease, only what I've read on
the FHL and Mike J's website. Sounds like another virus.. just what we
need... but manageable w/ enough tlc.
Give Buster a scritch for me,
swamp
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"Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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Oh Brina. Bless your heart. Buster is still in my thoughts and
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Lynn-
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| Brian S. |
You got it Swamp.. hanks for the info... He is still in there but as I said
sick. I mean i am not sure at this point it is sicker? The only thing is
that the stools are not blonder but then again he is eating more kibble at
times.
From what I read most don't make the mystery disease and the biop the vet
sent out had a note on it that it might be that but not sure. My only
concern at this moment is that his normal breathing would be like 1,
1000....2, 1000....... 3, 1000... then they went to a compression of like 1,
1000 or 1, 1000 and a half. now they only half a click. Before the vet said
it was ok at 1, 1000 and a half but it is faster now so i suppose another
visit should be warranted.
brian
"swamp" <swamp92@> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:20:06 -0400, "Brian S." <deadhead73@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>the first cbc was fine, than they did the biop which came back high with
>>white blood so than they sent out another, i don't have that yet. I just
>>know they said it was high and i never thought of getting the figure off
>>them. I will call and have them fax it. can you throw me the link to fhl?
>
> Sure:
>
> mailto:ferrethealth-digest-subscribe@smartgroups.com
>
> If you're paying for the cbc you're certainly entitled to a copy of
> its results. I'd insist on it.
>
>>as far as stool it is about 2 a day and it is a little more black than
>>usual. but the vet had done a culture on him last week and said it was ok.
>>the two or maybe three that come out are, as i think a result of the
>>chicken
>>and cream. I will take another over there. everytime they check his temp
>>he
>>passes one and it looks good.
>
> Hmm. Mine have presented somewhat "blonder" stools when they're
> getting heavy cream. The consistency firms up as they get well. That's
> when I start moving them back to their regular diet.
>
>>eyesight was confirmed in a dark room where they do in house xray
>>developing
>>etc. he sees some shadows perhaps, but most of the sensory comes with the
>>guard hairs (that is what i call them) by his mouth area. Anything further
>>away he does not realize.
>
> As others have said, ferrets aren't nearly as dependent on eyesight as
> we are. For that matter, none of mine have had good eyeballs even when
> they were young and healthy.
>
>>as for now i hope i can get him more stable and get him to use his hind
>>quarters more. he uses them and than after 30 seconds is ready for a nap.
>>it
>>is taxing.
>
> When he's feeling better he'll start using his rear wheels more. Mike
> was off his for almost 2 months, then came back strong. Hind end
> paresis is one of the first presentations in a sick ferret.
>
>>i know it is hard on him. he doesnt like snacks or toys now. just the
>>basics
>>of life. as long as he is licking the syringe and getting a drink while i
>>am
>>asleep, as well as, looking when i say Buster than certainly I am going to
>>do whatever it is I can.
>
> I don't know much about this "mystery" disease, only what I've read on
> the FHL and Mike J's website. Sounds like another virus.. just what we
> need... but manageable w/ enough tlc.
>
> Give Buster a scritch for me,
>
> swamp
>
> --
>
> "Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:23:59 -0400, "Brian S." <deadhead73@comcast.net>
wrote:
>You got it Swamp.. hanks for the info... He is still in there but as I said
>sick. I mean i am not sure at this point it is sicker? The only thing is
>that the stools are not blonder but then again he is eating more kibble at
>times.
>
>From what I read most don't make the mystery disease and the biop the vet
>sent out had a note on it that it might be that but not sure. My only
>concern at this moment is that his normal breathing would be like 1,
>1000....2, 1000....... 3, 1000... then they went to a compression of like 1,
>1000 or 1, 1000 and a half. now they only half a click. Before the vet said
>it was ok at 1, 1000 and a half but it is faster now so i suppose another
>visit should be warranted.
Cripes Brian, I constantly wonder when I'm crossing the line. Vets
know way more about animals than I do. However, I know that a typical
ferret heart rate is 200 b/m. Sounds like bump bump bump..bump 1000...
bump bump bump.. 2000. First time I heard it I thought the ferret was
having an attack.
swamp
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"Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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I wasn't talking about the actual heart rate as that sounds like what you
said to be right. i was talking about the lung compressions that i can see,
also see his nostrils flare if that helps any. not even a 1000.. just up
down up down.. nostrils flaring as fast.
brian s.
"swamp" <swamp92@> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:23:59 -0400, "Brian S." <deadhead73@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>You got it Swamp.. hanks for the info... He is still in there but as I
>>said
>>sick. I mean i am not sure at this point it is sicker? The only thing is
>>that the stools are not blonder but then again he is eating more kibble at
>>times.
>>
>>From what I read most don't make the mystery disease and the biop the vet
>>sent out had a note on it that it might be that but not sure. My only
>>concern at this moment is that his normal breathing would be like 1,
>>1000....2, 1000....... 3, 1000... then they went to a compression of like
>>1,
>>1000 or 1, 1000 and a half. now they only half a click. Before the vet
>>said
>>it was ok at 1, 1000 and a half but it is faster now so i suppose another
>>visit should be warranted.
>
> Cripes Brian, I constantly wonder when I'm crossing the line. Vets
> know way more about animals than I do. However, I know that a typical
> ferret heart rate is 200 b/m. Sounds like bump bump bump..bump 1000...
> bump bump bump.. 2000. First time I heard it I thought the ferret was
> having an attack.
>
> swamp
>
> --
>
> "Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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