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| dh@. |
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:26:35 -0400, +- <t@roll.com> wrote:
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>An aquaintance recently pointed me to a link to yet another wonderful idea
>brought to us by our benefactors of PETA. It's a very simple idea, that we
>should ban all owning of pets and release all these animals into the wild.
>Think of what a wonderful world that would be. First off, here's the link:
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> http://www.highlonesomeranch.com/ExoticLaw.htm
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>And yes, what a wonderful world it would be. Aside from an overabundance of
>deer due to hunting bans on them, there would be no shortage of free range
>feral cats, dogs, hamsters, goldfish, canaries and who knows what else
>frolicking in our wonderful unclutttered world. The only question is what
>to do with these expets now that they are no longer pets.
PeTA doesn't release them. PeTA kills them. If it was a worthwhile idea
for people to begin happy populations of wildlife from domestic animals, then
"ARAs" would have begun some already. But it's not. "ARAs" are not trying
to promote better lives, longer lives, more lives, rights, or anything at all for
domestic animals. "ARAs" want to *eliminate!!!* them, not help them.
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| Dutch |
<dh@.> wrote
> PeTA doesn't release them. PeTA kills them. If it was a worthwhile idea
> for people to begin happy populations of wildlife from domestic animals,
> then
> "ARAs" would have begun some already. But it's not. "ARAs" are not trying
> to promote better lives, longer lives, more lives, rights, or anything at
> all for
> domestic animals. "ARAs" want to *eliminate!!!* them, not help them.
We want to eliminate them too, so we can eat them. Do you think that we
can't see that you are equivocating between indivdual animals and livestock
species.
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| dh@. |
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:41:02 -0700, "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote:
><dh@.> wrote
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>> PeTA doesn't release them. PeTA kills them. If it was a worthwhile idea
>> for people to begin happy populations of wildlife from domestic animals,
>> then
>> "ARAs" would have begun some already. But it's not. "ARAs" are not trying
>> to promote better lives, longer lives, more lives, rights, or anything at
>> all for
>> domestic animals. "ARAs" want to *eliminate!!!* them, not help them.
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>We want to eliminate them
I know.
>too, so we can eat them.
You "ARAs"want to eliminate them so they are not killed and eaten.
>Do you think that we
>can't see that you are equivocating between indivdual animals and livestock
>species.
Because of your own extreme selfishness, you want to prevent
animals from being killed by preventing them from living....you "ARAs"
don't want them given longer lives, or better lives. What you want is
to prevent them from having any:
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"One generation and out. We have no problem with the extinction of domestic
animals. They are creations of human selective breeding...We have no ethical
obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through
selective breeding." (Wayne Pacelle, HSUS, former director of the Fund for
Animals, Animal People, May 1993)
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Tom Regan, Animal Rights Author and Philosopher, North Carolina State
University
"It is not larger, cleaner cages that justice demands...but empty cages."
(Regan, The Philosophy of Animal Rights, 1989)
http://www.agcouncil.com/leaders.htm
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From: Rudy Canoza <someguy@ph.con>
Message-ID: <dA_0e.8632$S46.7220@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>
dh wrote:
> You obviously don't want people to consider contributing
> to decent lives for livestock over the elimination objective
1. Because it's a BOGUS comparison . . .
2. Because causing animals to live is not ethically
superior to not wanting to cause animals to live.
3. Because...no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the
deliberate killing of the animals erases all of it.
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From: Rudy Canoza <someguy@ph.con>
Message-ID: <5r5Ud.7831$Ba3.3880@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>
There is no "selfishness" involved in wanting farm
animals not to exist as a step towards creating a more
just world.
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But in all the years we've been through this, you STILL have not
shown how it's ethically superior to providing billions of animals with
decent lives.
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