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| AnotherBirdLover |
When given the choice between pellets and Nutri Berries, my green cheek
eats about 80% Nutri Berries and 15% pellets, 5% table food (wheat
bread, oranges, apples, white rice).
>From the Lafeber's website it appears the Nutri Berries are design to
be a pellet replacement altogeather. I was wondering if any of you have
strong opinions about Nutri Berries.
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| Alex Clayton |
"AnotherBirdLover" <Jeremy.Deats@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> When given the choice between pellets and Nutri Berries, my green cheek
> eats about 80% Nutri Berries and 15% pellets, 5% table food (wheat
> bread, oranges, apples, white rice).
>
>>From the Lafeber's website it appears the Nutri Berries are design to
> be a pellet replacement altogeather. I was wondering if any of you have
> strong opinions about Nutri Berries.
>
I use them off and on. The birds seem to like them for a while, then get
tired of them so I stop for a while. I store them in bags, so have tossed
the package. If they are made with the same stuff as in pellets, I don't see
how it could be any different than pellets though. Just pellets with a
different flavor I guess?
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| AnotherBirdLover |
I Got a response from a vet today; know opnions vary, since
Nutri-Berries were developed by a Avian Vet, but none the less- the vet
recommended keeping him on the Nutri-Berries for the time being
"because he seems to like them so much... we don't want to do anything
that might stop him from eating", she recommends phasing him over to a
primary pellet diet around six months of age and cutting the
Nutri-Berries back to 10-15% and maybe 5% other "treat".
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| xpenenyx@earthlink.net |
On 1 Jun 2005 05:57:02 -0700, "AnotherBirdLover"
<Jeremy.Deats@gmail.com> wrote:
>When given the choice between pellets and Nutri Berries, my green cheek
>eats about 80% Nutri Berries and 15% pellets, 5% table food (wheat
>bread, oranges, apples, white rice).
>
>>From the Lafeber's website it appears the Nutri Berries are design to
>be a pellet replacement altogeather. I was wondering if any of you have
>strong opinions about Nutri Berries.
Nutri-Berries equal bird candy. Though they claim minimum waste I've
found with my AG that it exactly the opposite.
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| AnotherBirdLover |
But there is disagreement on this. Nutri-berries were created by an
Avian vet to be a "staple diet" and not only as a treat.
I'm not one to argue with the aviculture community which it seems by
large agrees pellets are the way to go, but in the wild birds don't eat
pellets and they manage to stay alive. Pellets have a sweat taste too
(try one). I don't mean to spark a giant thread on this (I've read
those already) and I do plan to transition Kadin to pellets as the ver
suggest around six months.
-Jeremy
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| Joanne |
"AnotherBirdLover" <Jeremy.Deats@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> But there is disagreement on this. Nutri-berries were created by an
> Avian vet to be a "staple diet" and not only as a treat.
>
> I'm not one to argue with the aviculture community which it seems by
> large agrees pellets are the way to go, but in the wild birds don't eat
> pellets and they manage to stay alive. Pellets have a sweat taste too
> (try one). I don't mean to spark a giant thread on this (I've read
> those already) and I do plan to transition Kadin to pellets as the ver
> suggest around six months.
>
> -Jeremy
Aren't Nutriberries seed meats rolled in honey, or something similar?
When I wean a baby pyrrhura from formula to food, I start with Fruit Loops
to get their attention. When they begin to recognize food as something they
can pick up and eat, we move to Cheerios and walnuts. As soon as possible
we introduce 5-veggie frozen mixed vegetables (corn, carrots, peas, green
beans and lima beans). Fruits of all sorts beginning with banana is given.
Before a bird goes home, we've offered as much variety of food as we can
cram into the short time we have them. This way, their willingness to eat
everything is strong.
When a breeder is breeding for volume rather than savoring each baby and the
baby experience, I'm sure they are limited in how they deal with food and
everything else.
If Kadin were mine, I'd begin the food variety now. You can offer food,
pellets and everything good for him. As long as he eats (and pyrruhuras are
great eaters), waiting until 6-months of age is allowing him to become more
set in his current eating habits and tastes.
Just my opinion.
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| Sprite |
"Joanne" <Joanne@jobirdnest.com> wrote in
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> "AnotherBirdLover" <Jeremy.Deats@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1117762711.901254.317220@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> But there is disagreement on this. Nutri-berries were created by an
>> Avian vet to be a "staple diet" and not only as a treat.
>>
>> I'm not one to argue with the aviculture community which it seems by
>> large agrees pellets are the way to go, but in the wild birds don't
>> eat pellets and they manage to stay alive. Pellets have a sweat taste
>> too (try one). I don't mean to spark a giant thread on this (I've
>> read those already) and I do plan to transition Kadin to pellets as
>> the ver suggest around six months.
>>
>> -Jeremy
>
> Aren't Nutriberries seed meats rolled in honey, or something similar?
>
> When I wean a baby pyrrhura from formula to food, I start with Fruit
> Loops to get their attention. When they begin to recognize food as
> something they can pick up and eat, we move to Cheerios and walnuts.
> As soon as possible we introduce 5-veggie frozen mixed vegetables
> (corn, carrots, peas, green beans and lima beans). Fruits of all
> sorts beginning with banana is given. Before a bird goes home, we've
> offered as much variety of food as we can cram into the short time we
> have them. This way, their willingness to eat everything is strong.
>
> When a breeder is breeding for volume rather than savoring each baby
> and the baby experience, I'm sure they are limited in how they deal
> with food and everything else.
>
> If Kadin were mine, I'd begin the food variety now. You can offer
> food, pellets and everything good for him. As long as he eats (and
> pyrruhuras are great eaters), waiting until 6-months of age is
> allowing him to become more set in his current eating habits and
> tastes.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
Loki loves his pellets... except for the red or orange ones which all get
thrown out back for the wild birds :P Picky little imp! Ive been buying
more natural pellets lately (no colors). He also has seeds and 2 recipes
the breeder gave me a birdie corn bread and a rice/grain/veggie mix I
make every month or so and freeze in small containers until needed.
Those are his regulars.
He also raids my dinner plate often as well :) My favorite was a batch
of home made veggie fried rice I had just made a big bowl of. Loki ran
full speed from my shoulder, down to the bowl, nabbed a piece of yellow
squash and immediately ran back up to my shoulder. He never paused along
the way, it was hilarious! At that time, I had never given him yellow
squash. Maybe he thought it was a HUGE pice of corn or something.
Curiously, he doesn't seem to like nutri berries *shrug* I thought they
would be a nice training treat. Instead I use grapes or small apple
pieces. He will be anyone's friend for a grape!
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| Phil Jarvis |
xpenenyx@earthlink.net wrote:
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> Nutri-Berries equal bird candy. Though they claim minimum waste I've
> found with my AG that it exactly the opposite.
I'm no expert but I have to agree with this. Unless your bird is
*supposed* to be on a seed diet, surely these things are bird candy
since they're mostly seeds.
If you've got any species prone to fatty liver disease and such,
seeds should be limited.
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| Gloria Carr |
"Joanne" <Joanne@jobirdnest.com> wrote in message
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> Aren't Nutriberries seed meats rolled in honey, or something similar?
Not honey, but there was some sugar-related ingredients, as well as some
stuff I recognized as vitamin and protein supplements. Number 1 ingredient
was seed, though. I didn't think to compare it to other pellet brands.
Personally I don't really see the point. I did ween my first cockatiel from
a seed-only diet to one with pellets and later fruits and vegitables using
Nutriberries, but later I did the same just as easily with my
then-20-year-old newly adopted 'teil without using Nutriberries. My birds
always wasted the Nutriberries, they'd take a bite and dump it on the floor,
right through the grate.
Gloria
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