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| fred |
hey all , almost had my mind made on on getting my wife a maroone
bellied coure for her b-day, have been researching them for a couple
of months now. now the breeder that i was going to get one from tells
me about the quakers hes got so i sat down last night and started to
look them up, , from what i have been reading just last night, they
sure seem like a very nice bird. the reason i was leaning on the
maroon bellied counure was the noise level, as i am a shift worker, so
how would the noise level be on the quakers. and anything else anyone
can tell me that compares the two, pluses and negatives. thanks
again. fred
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| AnotherBirdLover |
The Maroone bellies are a member of the Pyrrhura species, from the best
I can tell all share the same traits (just different colors). You may
consider trying to find a Pyrrhura breeder in your area if you decide
to go with Maroone belly.
I was just recently comparing the Quaker and Pyrrhura's myself and
ended up going with another Green Cheek. I've spent hours talking with
a few people I know about this to help make my decision, one of which
has breed Quakers and Pyrrhura's at differnet points over the last 13
years.
http://www.pyrrhurabreedersassociation.com/rosifron.htm
Here is some general information:
- Lifespan:
Quakers average between 30-35 years, Pyrrhura's 25-30 years.
- Noise level:
Quakers are inconsistant when it comes to noise level, some can be very
loud some aren't so much. It depends on the bird and what it learns.
Pyrrhura's are one the quitest of companion birds you can own.
-Origin:
Both Quakers and Pyrrhura's are native to South America.
- Ability to talk:
Quakers have excellent talking capabilities.
Pyrrhura's are not such great talkers, but it seems most learn a few
words.
- Cuddle
Quakers and Pyrrhura's can both be great cuddle birds, depends on the
bird and what they learn.
- Playful/Active behavior
Pyrrhura's are a bit more active than Quakers and should have more toys
in their cage. Pyrrhura's are known to be "little clowns" and love to
dangle upside down, by one foot, etc...
- Nippy behavior
Any bird can bite, training is going to be an important factor
regardless of what you get. I've heard the Quaker can have a very hard
(painful) bite and will often break the skin. Quakers should be well
socialized and handled with/by the entire family it will be living
with, otherwise it may form agressive behavior towards some members and
bit them.
Pyrrhura's of course can bite as well, but if they are well socialized
most tend to not show agression towards people they encouter daily.
Either bird could bound to one person and appear most happy in the
company of that person.
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In my area, Quakers are the best selling companion birds next to
"normal" Parakettes (budgies) and their prices are $150-$200 for the
normal (green) colored ones. I don't have any breeders around here that
breed Blue, Yellow or Whites, but I've been told a Blue Quaker can go
for around $350 here.
Pyrrhura's range in price, the normals and maroone bellies go from
$180-$250. Cinnamon's and Yellow-sides $300-$350.
>From everything I've been told both Quakers and Pyrrhura's can make
excellent companions, so I don't know if you go go wrong either way.
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| Bird hater |
fred wrote:
> hey all , almost had my mind made on on getting my wife a maroone
> bellied coure for her b-day, have been researching them for a couple
> of months now. now the breeder that i was going to get one from tells
> me about the quakers hes got so i sat down last night and started to
> look them up, , from what i have been reading just last night, they
> sure seem like a very nice bird. the reason i was leaning on the
> maroon bellied counure was the noise level, as i am a shift worker, so
> how would the noise level be on the quakers. and anything else anyone
> can tell me that compares the two, pluses and negatives. thanks
> again. fred
Bad points:
Conures are noisey bloody things.
Good points:
Mine shuts up when hit hard around the head or thrown at pace into a
brick wall.
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| Phil Jarvis |
Bird hater wrote:
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> fred wrote:
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>>hey all , almost had my mind made on on getting my wife a maroone
>>bellied coure for her b-day, have been researching them for a couple
>>of months now. now the breeder that i was going to get one from tells
>>me about the quakers hes got so i sat down last night and started to
>>look them up, , from what i have been reading just last night, they
>>sure seem like a very nice bird. the reason i was leaning on the
>>maroon bellied counure was the noise level, as i am a shift worker, so
>>how would the noise level be on the quakers. and anything else anyone
>>can tell me that compares the two, pluses and negatives. thanks
>>again. fred
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>
> Bad points:
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> Conures are noisey bloody things.
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<speaking through hat on>
Quakers are very noisy too, but it seems to be generally agreed upon
that conures are the noisier of the two.
Personally, for the limited extent of my interaction with either, I like
the personality of Quakers, and the playfulness of conures. Tough call.
Make sure Quakers are legal in your state if you plan on getting one.
<speaking through hat off>
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| Gloria Carr |
"Phil Jarvis" <philj2xNoSpamx@sybase.com> wrote in message
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> Bird hater wrote:
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>> fred wrote:
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>>>hey all , almost had my mind made on on getting my wife a maroone
>>>bellied coure for her b-day, have been researching them for a couple
>>>of months now. now the breeder that i was going to get one from tells
>>>me about the quakers hes got so i sat down last night and started to
>>>look them up, , from what i have been reading just last night, they
>>>sure seem like a very nice bird. the reason i was leaning on the
>>>maroon bellied counure was the noise level, as i am a shift worker, so
>>>how would the noise level be on the quakers. and anything else anyone
>>>can tell me that compares the two, pluses and negatives. thanks
>>>again. fred
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>>
>> Bad points:
>>
>> Conures are noisey bloody things.
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>
> <speaking through hat on>
>
> Quakers are very noisy too, but it seems to be generally agreed upon that
> conures are the noisier of the two.
>
> Personally, for the limited extent of my interaction with either, I like
> the personality of Quakers, and the playfulness of conures. Tough call.
>
> Make sure Quakers are legal in your state if you plan on getting one.
>
> <speaking through hat off>
Maroon Bellys are actually fairly quiet. I have a Black-capped conure, which
is a close relative (same genera, different species), and while he does
trill to himself quite a bit it is not very loud. The cockatiels are louder,
actually. Quakers are not quite as noisy as a Sun Conure, but IME they are
close.
Gloria
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| AnotherBirdLover |
I'm not familure with all species, but I know there is a pretty big
difference in noise level between Pyrrhura's (Green Cheek, Maroone
Bellies, etc..) and Aratinga (Sun's, Jendays, etc..). I've been told
most Pyrrhura's make little noise (except at day break and dusk) mine
last Green Cheek was not very noisey at all. We have to Parakette's who
make much more noise than he did.
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| AnotherBirdLover |
For bird lovers the solution seems to be to own both. I'm planing to
buy a Quaker within the next six to nine months.
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| pammyT |
"Bird hater" <ps73uk@netscape.net> wrote in message
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>
> fred wrote:
> > hey all , almost had my mind made on on getting my wife a maroone
> > bellied coure for her b-day, have been researching them for a couple
> > of months now. now the breeder that i was going to get one from tells
> > me about the quakers hes got so i sat down last night and started to
> > look them up, , from what i have been reading just last night, they
> > sure seem like a very nice bird. the reason i was leaning on the
> > maroon bellied counure was the noise level, as i am a shift worker, so
> > how would the noise level be on the quakers. and anything else anyone
> > can tell me that compares the two, pluses and negatives. thanks
> > again. fred
>
> Bad points:
>
> Conures are noisey bloody things.
>
you are showing your ignorance. Not *all* conures are noisy. Mainly the
aratinga conures are loud whereas small ones like the maroon bellied and
green cheeked are not particularly.
> Good points:
>
> Mine shuts up when hit hard around the head or thrown at pace into a
> brick wall.
>
your mum should have done the same when you cried as a baby.
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| pammyT |
> Quakers are very noisy too, but it seems to be generally agreed upon
> that conures are the noisier of the two.
Wrong. not all conures are noisy. The larger aratingas, nandays and suns
are noisy.
Quakers can be bloody noisy. I have both.
>
> Personally, for the limited extent of my interaction with either, I like
> the personality of Quakers, and the playfulness of conures. Tough call.
>
both the quakers and Pyrrhura conures are playful IME. I love both of the
species. I have to admit though that quakers have a very loud alarm call ,
the small conures do not.
Quakers have a better talking ability it seems judging by mine.
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| pammyT |
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"AnotherBirdLover" <Jeremy.Deats@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not familure with all species, but I know there is a pretty big
> difference in noise level between Pyrrhura's (Green Cheek, Maroone
Maroon
> Bellies, etc..) and Aratinga (Sun's, Jendays, etc..).
Sun conures and jendays are not aratinga conures.
>I've been told
> most Pyrrhura's make little noise (except at day break and dusk) >mine
> last Green Cheek was not very noisey (noisy)at all. We have to
(two)Parakette's (parakeets) who
> make much more noise than he did.
>
:0) sorry I cannot help myself. I should have been a teacher lol.
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| AnotherBirdLover |
On the first point, Sun's and Jenday's most certainly are Aratinga's.
Even if there were some disagreement, the majority opinion obviously
classifies them as Aratinga's
Sun Conure (aka Gold caped conure)
Scientific name: Aratinga Auricapilla
Jenday Conure
Scientific name: Aratinga Jandaya
>From Dr. Matthew Vriends's book: Conures Complete Owners Manual:
ISBN: 0764110381
- also see:
The Conure Handbook by Anne C. Watkins
ISBN: 0764127837
On the web:
http://animal-world.com/encyclo/bir...ures/jenday.php
http://animal-world.com/encyclo/birds/conures/sun.php
I did mistake the spelling on Parakette (sic). Actually I think I'm
going to start calling them Budgerigar since I've heard Quakers and
(even) Conures also refered to as "Parakeet". I guess Parakeet could
apply to many species since it's translation means "small bodied
parrot"
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| Gloria Carr |
"pammyT" <fenlandfowl @talktalk.net> wrote in message
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>
>> Quakers are very noisy too, but it seems to be generally agreed upon
>> that conures are the noisier of the two.
> Wrong. not all conures are noisy. The larger aratingas, nandays and suns
> are noisy.
> Quakers can be bloody noisy. I have both.
>>
>> Personally, for the limited extent of my interaction with either, I like
>> the personality of Quakers, and the playfulness of conures. Tough call.
>>
> both the quakers and Pyrrhura conures are playful IME. I love both of the
> species. I have to admit though that quakers have a very loud alarm call ,
> the small conures do not.
> Quakers have a better talking ability it seems judging by mine.
Yeah, they do. Wesley only knows a couple words, most quakers (or quackers
as I like to call them. LOL) his age generally know much more. They can be
nippy, but so can the Pyrrhuras.
Gloria
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| pammyT |
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"AnotherBirdLover" <Jeremy.Deats@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On the first point, Sun's and Jenday's most certainly are Aratinga's.
> Even if there were some disagreement, the majority opinion obviously
> classifies them as Aratinga's
>
I stand corrected.
>
> Sun Conure (aka Gold caped conure)
> Scientific name: Aratinga Auricapilla
>
aratinga solstitialis *you* stand corrected :0)
According to 'the professional's book of conures' among others.
> Jenday Conure
> Scientific name: Aratinga Jandaya
>
> >From Dr. Matthew Vriends's book: Conures Complete Owners Manual:
> ISBN: 0764110381
>
> - also see:
> The Conure Handbook by Anne C. Watkins
> ISBN: 0764127837
>
> On the web:
> http://animal-world.com/encyclo/bir...ures/jenday.php
> http://animal-world.com/encyclo/birds/conures/sun.php
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> I did mistake the spelling on Parakette (sic). Actually I think I'm
> going to start calling them Budgerigar since I've heard Quakers and
> (even) Conures also refered to as "Parakeet". I guess Parakeet could
> apply to many species since it's translation means "small bodied
> parrot"
>
And according to a couple of mine is means 'long tailed small parrot.
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| AnotherBirdLover |
Well, between the two of us we got it right :)
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| senn |
well if you were australian aboriginals you would call them good food.
"AnotherBirdLover" <Jeremy.Deats@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Well, between the two of us we got it right :)
>
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| AnotherBirdLover |
That's right Budgerigar mean, so something like that (shiver to
think). That brings a pretty horrid vision of a Barb-BQ
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| Bird hater |
I'm quite partial to the odd Barb-BQ'd Conure, damned expensive food
though.
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| Gloria Carr |
"AnotherBirdLover" <Jeremy.Deats@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> That's right Budgerigar mean, so something like that (shiver to
> think). That brings a pretty horrid vision of a Barb-BQ
I personally I doubt it, a budgie seems to be a bit small for a meal! They'd
have to catch a whole bunch of them to get enough for a stew.
A cockatoo on the other hand...
Gloria, who prefers chicken
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| senn |
well as cruel as it is you could kebab a budgie.
and they did catch hundreds.
"Gloria Carr" <platedlizard@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "AnotherBirdLover" <Jeremy.Deats@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1117298100.476786.131630@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > That's right Budgerigar mean, so something like that (shiver to
> > think). That brings a pretty horrid vision of a Barb-BQ
>
> I personally I doubt it, a budgie seems to be a bit small for a meal!
They'd
> have to catch a whole bunch of them to get enough for a stew.
>
> A cockatoo on the other hand...
>
> Gloria, who prefers chicken
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| Wheeler |
would be tough and stringy
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"Gloria Carr" <platedlizard@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "AnotherBirdLover" <Jeremy.Deats@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1117298100.476786.131630@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> That's right Budgerigar mean, so something like that (shiver to
>> think). That brings a pretty horrid vision of a Barb-BQ
>
> I personally I doubt it, a budgie seems to be a bit small for a meal!
> They'd have to catch a whole bunch of them to get enough for a stew.
>
> A cockatoo on the other hand...
>
> Gloria, who prefers chicken
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| Gloria Carr |
"Wheeler" <rivercst@pacifier.com> wrote in message
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> would be tough and stringy
No, they'd taste like chicken! Or so we always told Joey the U2 at Bird
Gardens when he went on a screaming jag or bit someone.
Gloria
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> A few new features and new pictures.
> http://www.onemorebird.com/
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> "Gloria Carr" <platedlizard@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> "AnotherBirdLover" <Jeremy.Deats@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1117298100.476786.131630@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> That's right Budgerigar mean, so something like that (shiver to
>>> think). That brings a pretty horrid vision of a Barb-BQ
>>
>> I personally I doubt it, a budgie seems to be a bit small for a meal!
>> They'd have to catch a whole bunch of them to get enough for a stew.
>>
>> A cockatoo on the other hand...
>>
>> Gloria, who prefers chicken
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fred <f_harwood@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:990e91lneh9a6cc6r6d84aeare0i5jpo8h@4ax.com:
> hey all , almost had my mind made on on getting my wife a maroone
> bellied coure for her b-day, have been researching them for a couple
> of months now. now the breeder that i was going to get one from tells
> me about the quakers hes got so i sat down last night and started to
> look them up, , from what i have been reading just last night, they
> sure seem like a very nice bird. the reason i was leaning on the
> maroon bellied counure was the noise level, as i am a shift worker, so
> how would the noise level be on the quakers. and anything else anyone
> can tell me that compares the two, pluses and negatives. thanks
> again. fred
With some research and last minute assistance from this newsgroup I chose
a green cheek conure a few years ago. He talks a great deal. I have
learned, most of his siblings do also including one owned by a woman who
also has a quaker. She said the green cheek actually talks more than the
quaker. I chalk it up to breeding, though unfortunately the breeder I
bought him from no longer raises green cheeks :(. Conures have
absolutely stolen my heart :) He seems a bit unusual compared to other
peoples conures in that he does not seem to enjoy chewing on wood
*headscratch* The avian vet says there is nothing wrong with his beak.
It seems he would just rather fight with a bell toy than chew on any of
the wood toys I buy for him. I see a few nibbles on wood toys, but thats
about it.
He's only extremely noisy when something frightens him. Or when someone
knocks on the door lol. He's like an extra alarm/doorbell. At times
when I have been home either week-ends or ill, he's mostly quiet if I
leave his radio on. He's not silent, but I don't usually hear him if Im
trying to sleep. Sometimes if he's noisy and Im not feeling well I bring
him back to the bedroom cage. He settles down since I am in the room
with him.
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| Gloria Carr |
"Sprite" <rpb.sprite.20@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
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He seems a bit unusual compared to other
> peoples conures in that he does not seem to enjoy chewing on wood
> *headscratch* The avian vet says there is nothing wrong with his beak.
> It seems he would just rather fight with a bell toy than chew on any of
> the wood toys I buy for him. I see a few nibbles on wood toys, but thats
> about it.
That's pretty normal. Wesley, my blackcapped conure doesn't chew wood
either. Like your bird he likes to wrestle with his toys. His favorite toys
are those small plastic balls sold as cat toys. He loves those, bashes them
around the cage so much that his tail is usually messed up. I have to use
ceramic dishes because he'll dump the plastic ones and play bowling ball so
much that it litterally rattles the house. Pretty good for such a small
bird!
Gloria
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| senn |
certainly sounds like a real character.
"Gloria Carr" <platedlizard@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Sprite" <rpb.sprite.20@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
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> He seems a bit unusual compared to other
> > peoples conures in that he does not seem to enjoy chewing on wood
> > *headscratch* The avian vet says there is nothing wrong with his beak.
> > It seems he would just rather fight with a bell toy than chew on any of
> > the wood toys I buy for him. I see a few nibbles on wood toys, but
thats
> > about it.
>
> That's pretty normal. Wesley, my blackcapped conure doesn't chew wood
> either. Like your bird he likes to wrestle with his toys. His favorite
toys
> are those small plastic balls sold as cat toys. He loves those, bashes
them
> around the cage so much that his tail is usually messed up. I have to use
> ceramic dishes because he'll dump the plastic ones and play bowling ball
so
> much that it litterally rattles the house. Pretty good for such a small
> bird!
>
> Gloria
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