| Phil Jarvis |
Spring is coming and soon I hope to take my bird for a walk.
This is a new experience for me, though whether it's new for my adopted
bird I don't know.
His wings are clipped, and I live in a country setting.
The bird is missing toes on one leg and doesn't have the best grip.
(A red-lored amazon).
So I'm wrestling with the following issues and hoping for advice.
- Since the bird is not sure footed because of his disability, I'm
trying to figure out how
to perch him for the walk. Depending on what I wear, he can slide
easily off my shoulder very easily.
That's probably mostly my problem, I build all kinds of perches and stuff
custom for the bird's disability (which I think is recent, prior to his
adoption, since he isn't robust in dealing with his disability yet,
but maybe he never will be). Still, maybe somebody has an idea.
(I read about other 1-legged birds that are very resourceful, but mine
isn't among them)
- The bird's wings are clipped. But even so, I don't want him
catching a good breeze, or getting knocked off by the breeze
of an oncoming truck and flying into the truck. So what kind of birdy
leashes/harnesses do people use?
My bird does NOT like to be handled beyond the basics of transporting
him from point a to b, so I expect I've got a fight on my
hand either way until he gets used to it, but I'm looking for the least
traumatic way to leash him so that if he falls off my shoulder or perch,
he won't fall into the road. I usually towel him for toenail clipping,
that might work for leashing too.
I haven't seen any bird leashes and the like at any bird stores near me.
Is there something like a lanyard I could just attach to his leg?
Obviously the whole thing is fraught with problems and maybe it isn't
advisable. If I didn't think the bird might enjoy the experience of
walking down a country dirt road tremendously, I wouldn't contemplate it
at all. He definitely likes the stimulation of a ride in the car, I'm
thinking he'll like this even better, seeing all the other wildlife,
wind in the trees, etc. But I need to make it safe for him.
Advice appreciated.
No email replies please, you can assume the one you see on the post is
invalid (to avoid spam).
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| Anonny Moose |
"Phil Jarvis" <philj2xNoSpamx@sybase.com> wrote in message
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> I haven't seen any bird leashes and the like at any bird stores near me.
> Is there something like a lanyard I could just attach to his leg?
>
You could check into jesses or anklets as used in falconry. Any organization
near you that uses wild birds in educational presentations you could contact
for help on this?
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| toucanldy@aol.com |
Phil Jarvis wrote:
> I haven't seen any bird leashes and the like at any bird stores near
me.
> Is there something like a lanyard I could just attach to his leg?
Do not attach anything to his leg, because if he tries to jump off your
shoulder, he will be hanging by his leg, and this could cause injury to
the leg.
Check out this harness.
http://www.naturechest.com/feattetbirha.html
Regards
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| Alex Clayton |
"Phil Jarvis" <philj2xNoSpamx@sybase.com> wrote in message
news:Uoudnejpscbm-qHfRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> Spring is coming and soon I hope to take my bird for a walk.
> This is a new experience for me, though whether it's new for my adopted
> bird I don't know.
>
> His wings are clipped, and I live in a country setting.
> The bird is missing toes on one leg and doesn't have the best grip.
> (A red-lored amazon).
>
> So I'm wrestling with the following issues and hoping for advice.
>
> - Since the bird is not sure footed because of his disability, I'm trying
> to figure out how
> to perch him for the walk. Depending on what I wear, he can slide
> easily off my shoulder very easily.
>
> That's probably mostly my problem, I build all kinds of perches and stuff
> custom for the bird's disability (which I think is recent, prior to his
> adoption, since he isn't robust in dealing with his disability yet,
> but maybe he never will be). Still, maybe somebody has an idea.
> (I read about other 1-legged birds that are very resourceful, but mine
> isn't among them)
>
> - The bird's wings are clipped. But even so, I don't want him
> catching a good breeze, or getting knocked off by the breeze
> of an oncoming truck and flying into the truck. So what kind of birdy
> leashes/harnesses do people use?
>
> My bird does NOT like to be handled beyond the basics of transporting him
> from point a to b, so I expect I've got a fight on my
> hand either way until he gets used to it, but I'm looking for the least
> traumatic way to leash him so that if he falls off my shoulder or perch,
> he won't fall into the road. I usually towel him for toenail clipping,
> that might work for leashing too.
>
> I haven't seen any bird leashes and the like at any bird stores near me.
> Is there something like a lanyard I could just attach to his leg?
>
>
>
> Obviously the whole thing is fraught with problems and maybe it isn't
> advisable. If I didn't think the bird might enjoy the experience of
> walking down a country dirt road tremendously, I wouldn't contemplate it
> at all. He definitely likes the stimulation of a ride in the car, I'm
> thinking he'll like this even better, seeing all the other wildlife, wind
> in the trees, etc. But I need to make it safe for him.
>
> Advice appreciated.
>
> No email replies please, you can assume the one you see on the post is
> invalid (to avoid spam).
They make a harness leash system for birds, BUT they have mixed results. I
tried one many years ago for my BCC. It was impossible. Once it was finally
on him he was too scared to move. When I bought my first Macaw I trained him
to wear one while he was young and it worked real well, but you had to make
sure you put it on him regularly or it would be a battle getting it on. When
I bought the Macaw we have now I did the same thing, he was only six months
old so it did not take long to get him to wear it, but after one winter not
using it it was a battle trying to get it on again the next spring. I
finally gave up on it, and just watch him closely when we are outside. I
would NOT recommend one of the leg restraints on a clipped bird.
--
Success always occurs in private, and failure in full view.
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| Tom Cretain |
I've seen small cages rigged up as backpacks and strapped on. The bird
can be let out anytime you stop somewhere and feel safe.
Phil Jarvis wrote:
> Spring is coming and soon I hope to take my bird for a walk.
> This is a new experience for me, though whether it's new for my adopted
> bird I don't know.
>
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| asificare |
"Anonny Moose" <nospam@leavemealone.com> wrote in message
news:113oqujiq1r654b@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Phil Jarvis" <philj2xNoSpamx@sybase.com> wrote in message
> news:Uoudnejpscbm-qHfRVn-ig@comcast.com...
>> I haven't seen any bird leashes and the like at any bird stores near me.
>> Is there something like a lanyard I could just attach to his leg?
>>
>
> You could check into jesses or anklets as used in falconry. Any
> organization near you that uses wild birds in educational presentations
> you could contact for help on this?
>
More idiotic advice. A bird of prey's legs are much stronger than a parrots.
Putting jesses or anklets on a parrot is a sure way to injure it.
Would you put jesses or anklets on your own bird Anonny Moose?
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| asificare |
Leave him at home, why would you want to take the bird for a walk? It
doesn't benefit the bird.
>
"Phil Jarvis" <philj2xNoSpamx@sybase.com> wrote in message
news:Uoudnejpscbm-qHfRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> Spring is coming and soon I hope to take my bird for a walk.
> This is a new experience for me, though whether it's new for my adopted
> bird I don't know.
>
> His wings are clipped, and I live in a country setting.
> The bird is missing toes on one leg and doesn't have the best grip.
> (A red-lored amazon).
>
> So I'm wrestling with the following issues and hoping for advice.
>
> - Since the bird is not sure footed because of his disability, I'm trying
> to figure out how
> to perch him for the walk. Depending on what I wear, he can slide
> easily off my shoulder very easily.
>
> That's probably mostly my problem, I build all kinds of perches and stuff
> custom for the bird's disability (which I think is recent, prior to his
> adoption, since he isn't robust in dealing with his disability yet,
> but maybe he never will be). Still, maybe somebody has an idea.
> (I read about other 1-legged birds that are very resourceful, but mine
> isn't among them)
>
> - The bird's wings are clipped. But even so, I don't want him
> catching a good breeze, or getting knocked off by the breeze
> of an oncoming truck and flying into the truck. So what kind of birdy
> leashes/harnesses do people use?
>
> My bird does NOT like to be handled beyond the basics of transporting him
> from point a to b, so I expect I've got a fight on my
> hand either way until he gets used to it, but I'm looking for the least
> traumatic way to leash him so that if he falls off my shoulder or perch,
> he won't fall into the road. I usually towel him for toenail clipping,
> that might work for leashing too.
>
> I haven't seen any bird leashes and the like at any bird stores near me.
> Is there something like a lanyard I could just attach to his leg?
>
>
>
> Obviously the whole thing is fraught with problems and maybe it isn't
> advisable. If I didn't think the bird might enjoy the experience of
> walking down a country dirt road tremendously, I wouldn't contemplate it
> at all. He definitely likes the stimulation of a ride in the car, I'm
> thinking he'll like this even better, seeing all the other wildlife, wind
> in the trees, etc. But I need to make it safe for him.
>
> Advice appreciated.
>
> No email replies please, you can assume the one you see on the post is
> invalid (to avoid spam).
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| Anonny Moose |
"asificare" <asif.icare@nothing.net> wrote in message
news:Qzd%d.222$gL2.119@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>
> "Anonny Moose" <nospam@leavemealone.com> wrote in message
> news:113oqujiq1r654b@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "Phil Jarvis" <philj2xNoSpamx@sybase.com> wrote in message
>> news:Uoudnejpscbm-qHfRVn-ig@comcast.com...
>>> I haven't seen any bird leashes and the like at any bird stores near me.
>>> Is there something like a lanyard I could just attach to his leg?
>>>
>>
>> You could check into jesses or anklets as used in falconry. Any
>> organization near you that uses wild birds in educational presentations
>> you could contact for help on this?
>>
> More idiotic advice. A bird of prey's legs are much stronger than a
> parrots. Putting jesses or anklets on a parrot is a sure way to injure it.
> Would you put jesses or anklets on your own bird Anonny Moose?
>
>
Before you call my suggestion (not advice) idiotic why don't you explain the
physiology behind your declaration that birds of prey have stronger legs
than parrots and then tell me how jesses would injure the bird. I will tell
you that I have used anklets on one of my parrots without incident or
injury.
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| Phil Jarvis |
Tom Cretain wrote:
> I've seen small cages rigged up as backpacks and strapped on. The bird
> can be let out anytime you stop somewhere and feel safe.
That's an interesting idea, and would solve a dual issue for the bird
with regard to his disability (more stable perching environment).
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| asificare |
"Anonny Moose" <nospam@leavemealone.com> wrote in message
news:113r8j14t5hk73d@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>
> Before you call my suggestion (not advice) idiotic why don't you explain
> the physiology behind your declaration that birds of prey have stronger
> legs than parrots and then tell me how jesses would injure the bird. I
> will tell you that I have used anklets on one of my parrots without
> incident or injury.
>
Birds of prey's legs are designed for attacking and killing, parrots aren't.
You are an idiot to use anklets on a parrot and extremely lucky you haven't
injured your bird.
Any more idiotic advice? Do you use a hood on your parrot when you take it
outside? Do you free fly it?
Keep your dangerous and idiotic advise to yourself and you may save other
peoples birds from unnecessary injury.
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| Curtis |
Hello,
"Phil Jarvis" <philj2xNoSpamx@sybase.com> wrote in message
news:Uoudnejpscbm-qHfRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> - The bird's wings are clipped. But even so, I don't want him
> catching a good breeze, or getting knocked off by the breeze
> of an oncoming truck and flying into the truck. So what kind of birdy
> leashes/harnesses do people use?
We use a Feather Teather harness on our Cockatoo and Quaker. The Cockatoo
loves it, the Quaker is grouchy about anything, kind of like some people on
this news group :-), but she still loves to go outside. I would not take
them outside (not in a cage) without some type of harness and constant
supervision.
To see one go to http://www.smithpet.com/CgAcc.htm click on perches, then
scroll down (left hand column towards the bottom).
For my birds it works great. However, you may have problems if your bird
does not like being handled. It is fast to put on but does have to go under
the bird's wings.
The feather teather is basically a modified cat/small dog harness. There
are three clips so it clips on, not slides on like a regular cat/dog
harness.
If your bird really has problems being handled and can't perch well,
consider taking it for a walk in a carrier. Use a cat carrier that has lots
of view ports or screens. The bird can see out but can stand on the bottom
of the box. Not as "out" as other options but the bird does get to see new
things and still remains protected.
Curtis
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| ME |
"Curtis" <the.curtis.smith@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:-tGdnTaMv5Jqc9_fRVn-2Q@comcast.com...
>>
> If your bird really has problems being handled and can't perch well,
> consider taking it for a walk in a carrier. Use a cat carrier that has
> lots of view ports or screens. The bird can see out but can stand on the
> bottom of the box. Not as "out" as other options but the bird does get to
> see new things and still remains protected.
>
> Curtis
>
A better option is NOT to take your bird outside, unless you view your bird
as a status symbol and you like to show off.
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| Curtis |
"Nicole" <merkuri@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1111364491.454543.321130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> You could use a backpack-cage like one of these:
>
> http://bird-supplies.com/index.asp?...TS&Category=417
>
> I've heard people recommend the Adventure Packs. A good place to get
> them would be here, it costs a bit less and comes in more colors than
> most online places offer:
> http://www.claviaryonline.com/adventurepack.html
I got one of the Adventure Packs - very bad design. The openings in the
backpack part were smaller than the cage door! You would have to put the
bird in the cage first and then struggle to get the cloth backpack over the
cage (and it was a struggle that included having to turn the cage upsidedown
to get the pack over the cage). The cage door could not be opened with the
backpack on it.
The place I bought it from refused to take it back - saying it was a design
problem, not their fault, that it didn't work.
I haven't tried the other brands but I do NOT recomend getting an Adventure
Pack.
Curtis
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| Curtis |
Hello,
"ME" <ME.me@nothere.net> wrote in message
news:khC0e.616$2j2.224@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
> A better option is NOT to take your bird outside, unless you view your
> bird as a status symbol and you like to show off.
I prefer to view my birds as companions that would like to be with me and as
intelligent creatures who would like to experience more than the inside of a
cage/house.
Curtis
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| Nicole |
The door is not meant to be opened through the holes, those are
windows. The door is meant to face the way your walking. It lies
against the cushioning on your back. I believe that part comes down
without needing to remove the covering. There are some pictures here
to prove it can be opened while the cover is still on:
http://www.flyingsouth.com/index.as...on=Custom&ID=15
Even if the door was meant to face to the sides, I think it would be
better to face the door against your back anyway. That way any escape
artist birdies couldn't possibly open the door and fly away without you
knowing. Well, unless they could somehow muscle the cage away from
your body and unfasten the cover. A that point, though, you'd probably
notice.
You still have to take the backpack off and do a little unfastening to
get the door open, but you don't have to remove the cover completely.
--Nicole
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| Curtis |
"Nicole" <merkuri@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1111763888.821815.74840@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> The door is not meant to be opened through the holes, those are
> windows. The door is meant to face the way your walking. It lies
> against the cushioning on your back.
Mine had no opening that would work that way (I tried). Maybe I got a
defective one that they forgot to put the opening in or it was incorrectly
sized. :-) But the only way mine would go together required removing the
entire cover to open the cage.
Curtis
> I believe that part comes down
> without needing to remove the covering. There are some pictures here
> to prove it can be opened while the cover is still on:
>
> http://www.flyingsouth.com/index.as...on=Custom&ID=15
>
> Even if the door was meant to face to the sides, I think it would be
> better to face the door against your back anyway. That way any escape
> artist birdies couldn't possibly open the door and fly away without you
> knowing. Well, unless they could somehow muscle the cage away from
> your body and unfasten the cover. A that point, though, you'd probably
> notice.
>
> You still have to take the backpack off and do a little unfastening to
> get the door open, but you don't have to remove the cover completely.
>
> --Nicole
>
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| Alex Clayton |
"Curtis" <the.curtis.smith@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:5vmdnTRWy5sBG97fRVn-sg@comcast.com...
> Hello,
>
> "ME" <ME.me@nothere.net> wrote in message
> news:khC0e.616$2j2.224@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
>> A better option is NOT to take your bird outside, unless you view your
>> bird as a status symbol and you like to show off.
>
> I prefer to view my birds as companions that would like to be with me and
> as intelligent creatures who would like to experience more than the inside
> of a cage/house.
>
> Curtis
>
You're responding to one of the resident trolls. He just wants attention. If
you try to reason with him he will go on forever. desperately needs
attention to make up for what Mom and Dad did to him. <shrug>
--
Success always occurs in private, and failure in full view.
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| usaclipandtether |
And your bird has the intelligence to tell you it would like to have it's
wings mutilated so you can show it off to the world?
>
"Curtis" <the.curtis.smith@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:5vmdnTRWy5sBG97fRVn-sg@comcast.com...
> Hello,
>
> "ME" <ME.me@nothere.net> wrote in message
> news:khC0e.616$2j2.224@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
>> A better option is NOT to take your bird outside, unless you view your
>> bird as a status symbol and you like to show off.
>
> I prefer to view my birds as companions that would like to be with me and
> as intelligent creatures who would like to experience more than the inside
> of a cage/house.
>
> Curtis
>
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| usaclipandtether |
"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eKZ0e.4397$H06.1962@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > You're responding to one of the resident trolls. He just wants
> > attention. If
> you try to reason with him he will go on forever. desperately needs
> attention to make up for what Mom and Dad did to him. <shrug>
> --
>
>
Typical bull**** response alex. I don't crave attention, I happen to believe
in letting birds lead a happy and natural life. Not to be mutilated and
paraded in front of strangers.Bird is a living creature not a fashion
accessory.
I don't want people to reason with me or to try to justify their need to
mutilate their birds, to treat them like children or feed them an unnatural
diet out of laziness.
And what do you think my parents did to me alex?
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| Nicole |
You could use a backpack-cage like one of these:
http://bird-supplies.com/index.asp?...TS&Category=417
I've heard people recommend the Adventure Packs. A good place to get
them would be here, it costs a bit less and comes in more colors than
most online places offer:
http://www.claviaryonline.com/adventurepack.html
Another thing you may have to worry about when taking your bird outside
(depending on where you live) is the West Nile virus. The Adventure
Packs above come with optional mosquito netting (the second link throws
in the netting for free).
Oh, by the way, birds of prey use their legs to catch their prey.
Parrots, being prey birds and mostly herbivores, don't need to catch
anything. Their legs just need to hold them up, not grasp and hold
fleeing animals. Therefore it goes to reason that birds of prey would
have stronger legs. Just using a little logic, I don't actually know
much about birds of prey.
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| David G Fisher |
Lot's of good advice in this thread, but I just want to say to be careful
about dogs running up to you and the bird. Make sure you can protect the
bird.
Dave
"Phil Jarvis" <philj2xNoSpamx@sybase.com> wrote in message
news:Uoudnejpscbm-qHfRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> Spring is coming and soon I hope to take my bird for a walk.
> This is a new experience for me, though whether it's new for my adopted
> bird I don't know.
>
> His wings are clipped, and I live in a country setting.
> The bird is missing toes on one leg and doesn't have the best grip.
> (A red-lored amazon).
>
> So I'm wrestling with the following issues and hoping for advice.
>
> - Since the bird is not sure footed because of his disability, I'm
> trying to figure out how
> to perch him for the walk. Depending on what I wear, he can slide
> easily off my shoulder very easily.
>
> That's probably mostly my problem, I build all kinds of perches and stuff
> custom for the bird's disability (which I think is recent, prior to his
> adoption, since he isn't robust in dealing with his disability yet,
> but maybe he never will be). Still, maybe somebody has an idea.
> (I read about other 1-legged birds that are very resourceful, but mine
> isn't among them)
>
> - The bird's wings are clipped. But even so, I don't want him
> catching a good breeze, or getting knocked off by the breeze
> of an oncoming truck and flying into the truck. So what kind of birdy
> leashes/harnesses do people use?
>
> My bird does NOT like to be handled beyond the basics of transporting
> him from point a to b, so I expect I've got a fight on my
> hand either way until he gets used to it, but I'm looking for the least
> traumatic way to leash him so that if he falls off my shoulder or perch,
> he won't fall into the road. I usually towel him for toenail clipping,
> that might work for leashing too.
>
> I haven't seen any bird leashes and the like at any bird stores near me.
> Is there something like a lanyard I could just attach to his leg?
>
>
>
> Obviously the whole thing is fraught with problems and maybe it isn't
> advisable. If I didn't think the bird might enjoy the experience of
> walking down a country dirt road tremendously, I wouldn't contemplate it
> at all. He definitely likes the stimulation of a ride in the car, I'm
> thinking he'll like this even better, seeing all the other wildlife,
> wind in the trees, etc. But I need to make it safe for him.
>
> Advice appreciated.
>
> No email replies please, you can assume the one you see on the post is
> invalid (to avoid spam).
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| Alex Clayton |
"David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
news:O8ydndMLArqOvNrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
> Lot's of good advice in this thread, but I just want to say to be careful
> about dogs running up to you and the bird. Make sure you can protect the
> bird.
>
> Dave
>
>
That's easy enough to take care of. I take precautions about loose dogs
whether I am walking alone, with my bird, or with my dog. Everyone should.
There is always some moron who allows their dog to run free.
--
Stupidity should be painful
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| Phil Jarvis |
Thanks everyone for the links and suggestions.
The west nile virus topic was also very interest and suggests that once
the mosquitos are out a properly protected enclosure may be worthwhile.
Dogs don't fluster the bird, but it's good to make sure I'm watching
them for jumping up on me.
The smithpets.com (or whatever it was) site doesn't work well with the
mozilla browser
(particularly the perches page), but the email contact address for the
site bounced when I attempted to let them know of the problem.
Weather's warming up, we'll see how it goes.
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| usamistreatbirds |
"David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
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> Lot's of good advice in this thread, but I just want to say to be careful
> about dogs running up to you and the bird. Make sure you can protect the
> bird.
>
> Dave
>
>
Even better advice, leave your bird at home then you dont have to worry
about anything running up to your bird.
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| David G Fisher |
"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
> news:O8ydndMLArqOvNrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
> > Lot's of good advice in this thread, but I just want to say to be
careful
> > about dogs running up to you and the bird. Make sure you can protect the
> > bird.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
>
> That's easy enough to take care of. I take precautions about loose dogs
> whether I am walking alone, with my bird, or with my dog. Everyone should.
> There is always some moron who allows their dog to run free.
> --
> Stupidity should be painful
I'm 37, and I've never had a problem with a single dog (they shouldn't be
loose for their own safety of course). A bird though could get scared by a
roaming dog.
Dave
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| Alex Clayton |
"David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> I'm 37, and I've never had a problem with a single dog (they shouldn't be
> loose for their own safety of course). A bird though could get scared by a
> roaming dog.
>
> Dave
>
>
In almost all jurisdictions dogs are required not to be loose. Your claim of
never having a problem with a dog does not make all the people who get bit
daily feel any better about the bite. As I said I ALWAYS carry protection
from stray dogs whether I have a bird with me or my own dog, who is very
small. A couple times I have had some close calls with the stray dogs owner
when they get mad that you ran their dog off. Small children are often the
victims of this also. Unfortunately the dogs owners are seldom held
accountable for their stupidity. It's a shame the dog has to suffer because
the owner is a moron, but that's life.
--
Things get better with age. I'm approaching magnificent!!
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| Deputy Dog |
"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2J12e.1415$x4.701@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> "David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
> news:_N2dnVfWypIBHdXfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
> >
> > I'm 37, and I've never had a problem with a single dog (they shouldn't
be
> > loose for their own safety of course). A bird though could get scared by
a
> > roaming dog.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
>
> In almost all jurisdictions dogs are required not to be loose. Your claim
of
> never having a problem with a dog does not make all the people who get bit
> daily feel any better about the bite. As I said I ALWAYS carry protection
> from stray dogs whether I have a bird with me or my own dog, who is very
> small. A couple times I have had some close calls with the stray dogs
owner
> when they get mad that you ran their dog off. Small children are often the
> victims of this also. Unfortunately the dogs owners are seldom held
> accountable for their stupidity. It's a shame the dog has to suffer
because
> the owner is a moron, but that's life.
> --
> Things get better with age. I'm approaching magnificent!!
>
>
I also carry when I walk the dog, be it protection from other dogs running
loose or the two legged type.
Dave
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| David G Fisher |
"Deputy Dog" <dave@[removethis]sibbett.com> wrote in message
news:cg32e.13821$Go4.11027@trnddc05...
>
> "Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2J12e.1415$x4.701@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > "David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:_N2dnVfWypIBHdXfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
> > >
> > > I'm 37, and I've never had a problem with a single dog (they shouldn't
> be
> > > loose for their own safety of course). A bird though could get scared
by
> a
> > > roaming dog.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> >
> > In almost all jurisdictions dogs are required not to be loose. Your
claim
> of
> > never having a problem with a dog does not make all the people who get
bit
> > daily feel any better about the bite. As I said I ALWAYS carry
protection
> > from stray dogs whether I have a bird with me or my own dog, who is very
> > small. A couple times I have had some close calls with the stray dogs
> owner
> > when they get mad that you ran their dog off. Small children are often
the
> > victims of this also. Unfortunately the dogs owners are seldom held
> > accountable for their stupidity. It's a shame the dog has to suffer
> because
> > the owner is a moron, but that's life.
> > --
> > Things get better with age. I'm approaching magnificent!!
> >
> >
> I also carry when I walk the dog, be it protection from other dogs running
> loose or the two legged type.
>
> Dave
The two of you are saying you carry guns to protect yourselves from dogs?
Are you ******* kidding me?
Dave
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| LT |
David G Fisher wrote:
> "Deputy Dog" <dave@[removethis]sibbett.com> wrote in message
> news:cg32e.13821$Go4.11027@trnddc05...
>
>>"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:2J12e.1415$x4.701@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>
>>>"David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
>>>news:_N2dnVfWypIBHdXfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>>I'm 37, and I've never had a problem with a single dog (they shouldn't
>>
>>be
>>
>>>>loose for their own safety of course). A bird though could get scared
>
> by
>
>>a
>>
>>>>roaming dog.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>In almost all jurisdictions dogs are required not to be loose. Your
>
> claim
>
>>of
>>
>>>never having a problem with a dog does not make all the people who get
>
> bit
>
>>>daily feel any better about the bite. As I said I ALWAYS carry
>
> protection
>
>>>from stray dogs whether I have a bird with me or my own dog, who is very
>>>small. A couple times I have had some close calls with the stray dogs
>>
>>owner
>>
>>>when they get mad that you ran their dog off. Small children are often
>
> the
>
>>>victims of this also. Unfortunately the dogs owners are seldom held
>>>accountable for their stupidity. It's a shame the dog has to suffer
>>
>>because
>>
>>>the owner is a moron, but that's life.
>>>--
>>>Things get better with age. I'm approaching magnificent!!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I also carry when I walk the dog, be it protection from other dogs running
>>loose or the two legged type.
>>
>>Dave
>
>
> The two of you are saying you carry guns to protect yourselves from dogs?
>
> Are you ******* kidding me?
>
> Dave
>
>
Ditto!!!
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| usamistreatbirds |
"David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
news:6JWdnboFvvldSdXfRVn-3g@comcast.com...
>
> The two of you are saying you carry guns to protect yourselves from dogs?
>
> Are you ******* kidding me?
>
> Dave
>
>
Americans eh, they carry birds around too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Alex Clayton |
"David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
news:6JWdnboFvvldSdXfRVn-3g@comcast.com...
>
>> Dave
>
> The two of you are saying you carry guns to protect yourselves from dogs?
>
> Are you ******* kidding me?
>
I do carry a gun always, as is legal for me here. For dogs I always carry
O.C. and often a collapsible night stick. The O.C. has rarely been needed,
normally just showing the dog the can stops the problem. Don't know if it's
because the dog knows what it is, (I doubt that) or it's because the dog
senses there is trouble (this would be my guess) but a couple times I have
had to spray one and it worked very well, and does no damage to the dog. Now
a couple times some irate moron owner would come racing out to the street to
confront me about his dog. Back before the days of cell phones the gun would
be the only way to end the problem if it got to that point, fortunately it
never has. The last time it happened I just pulled out my cell and told the
screaming moron if he would like I would be glad to call the police for him
and wait for them to arrive. He declined and went inside with his dog. I had
not even sprayed the dog just showed the dog the can of O.C. and it backed
off, the owner seemed quite upset that I had "threatened" his mutt. <shrug>
Bottom line is almost every time some person (normally a kid) is mauled
here the owner (moron) of the dog almost ALWAYS has some lame excuse. It's
NEVER their fault. As I said it's a shame some dog has to suffer because
their owner is a moron, but that's life. I am not going to get bit, or pay
some huge vet bills because some moron lets his dog run free. Now if this
causes you some "distress", take a pill.
--
Stupidity should be painful
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| Deputy Dog |
"David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
news:6JWdnboFvvldSdXfRVn-3g@comcast.com...
>
> "Deputy Dog" <dave@[removethis]sibbett.com> wrote in message
> news:cg32e.13821$Go4.11027@trnddc05...
> >
> > "Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:2J12e.1415$x4.701@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > "David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:_N2dnVfWypIBHdXfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
> > > >
> > > > I'm 37, and I've never had a problem with a single dog (they
shouldn't
> > be
> > > > loose for their own safety of course). A bird though could get
scared
> by
> > a
> > > > roaming dog.
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > In almost all jurisdictions dogs are required not to be loose. Your
> claim
> > of
> > > never having a problem with a dog does not make all the people who get
> bit
> > > daily feel any better about the bite. As I said I ALWAYS carry
> protection
> > > from stray dogs whether I have a bird with me or my own dog, who is
very
> > > small. A couple times I have had some close calls with the stray dogs
> > owner
> > > when they get mad that you ran their dog off. Small children are often
> the
> > > victims of this also. Unfortunately the dogs owners are seldom held
> > > accountable for their stupidity. It's a shame the dog has to suffer
> > because
> > > the owner is a moron, but that's life.
> > > --
> > > Things get better with age. I'm approaching magnificent!!
> > >
> > >
> > I also carry when I walk the dog, be it protection from other dogs
running
> > loose or the two legged type.
> >
> > Dave
>
> The two of you are saying you carry guns to protect yourselves from dogs?
>
> Are you ******* kidding me?
>
> Dave
>
>
Dave,
I carry a gun for protection, whether it be from the dregs of society or a
dog or what ever. I live in a area where it's considered kool to have pit
bulls(and fight them). They frequently get loose and run the neiborhood. Not
to be smart but have you ever had an angry pitbull come after ya? It ain't
fun, they can seriously maim or kill a grown man.
Dave
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| Nicole |
Odd. Well, to be honest I don't own one, but it looks from the
pictures that it would be easy to get the bird out. Maybe you had an
older model, or maybe I'm looking at the pictures wrong. I've just
heard many good things about them, and that sounds like a serious
problem that I would've heard about by now.
I guess this is a classic case of "buyer beware." ;)
--Nicole
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| usamistreatbirds |
"Deputy Dog" <dave@[removethis]sibbett.com> wrote in message
news:ASj2e.36675$oa6.12171@trnddc07...
>
>>>
>> The two of you are saying you carry guns to protect yourselves from dogs?
>> Are you ******* kidding me?
>> Dave
> Dave,
>
> I carry a gun for protection, whether it be from the dregs of society or a
> dog or what ever. I live in a area where it's considered kool to have pit
> bulls(and fight them). They frequently get loose and run the neiborhood.
> Not
> to be smart but have you ever had an angry pitbull come after ya? It ain't
> fun, they can seriously maim or kill a grown man.
>
> Dave
>
>
Typical american paranoia, deranged gun carrying idiots.
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| usamistreatbirds |
"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:qbf2e.7137$H06.4937@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> "David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
> news:6JWdnboFvvldSdXfRVn-3g@comcast.com...
>>
>>> Dave
>>
>> The two of you are saying you carry guns to protect yourselves from dogs?
>>
>> Are you ******* kidding me?
>>
>
> I do carry a gun always, as is legal for me here. For dogs I always carry
> O.C. and often a collapsible night stick. The O.C. has rarely been needed,
> normally just showing the dog the can stops the problem. Don't know if
> it's because the dog knows what it is, (I doubt that) or it's because the
> dog senses there is trouble (this would be my guess) but a couple times I
> have had to spray one and it worked very well, and does no damage to the
> dog. Now a couple times some irate moron owner would come racing out to
> the street to confront me about his dog. Back before the days of cell
> phones the gun would be the only way to end the problem if it got to that
> point, fortunately it never has. The last time it happened I just pulled
> out my cell and told the screaming moron if he would like I would be glad
> to call the police for him and wait for them to arrive. He declined and
> went inside with his dog. I had not even sprayed the dog just showed the
> dog the can of O.C. and it backed off, the owner seemed quite upset that I
> had "threatened" his mutt. <shrug>
> Bottom line is almost every time some person (normally a kid) is mauled
> here the owner (moron) of the dog almost ALWAYS has some lame excuse. It's
> NEVER their fault. As I said it's a shame some dog has to suffer because
> their owner is a moron, but that's life. I am not going to get bit, or pay
> some huge vet bills because some moron lets his dog run free. Now if this
> causes you some "distress", take a pill.
> --
> Stupidity should be painful
>
>
Stupidity is a gun wielding, paranoid american taking his bird for a walk.
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| Deputy Dog |
"usamistreatbirds" <usamistreat.birds@hereonthe.net> wrote in message
news:Q7u2e.43$VN1.2@newsfe1-
> Typical american paranoia, deranged gun carrying idiots.
>
>
This coming from a attention starved Troll...................wow it really
holds water. How many times have you changed your moniker parameters just to
escape our bozo bins Ray?
Dave
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| usamistreatbirds |
"Deputy Dog" <dave@[removethis]sibbett.com> wrote in message
news:Wfz2e.23178$Ax.15532@trnddc04...
>
> "usamistreatbirds" <usamistreat.birds@hereonthe.net> wrote in message
> news:Q7u2e.43$VN1.2@newsfe1-
>> Typical american paranoia, deranged gun carrying idiots.
>>
>>
>
> This coming from a attention starved Troll...................wow it really
> holds water. How many times have you changed your moniker parameters just
> to
> escape our bozo bins Ray?
>
> Dave
>
>
You couldnt be more wrong dd. I am NOT Ray but do know him very well.
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| LT |
usamistreatbirds wrote:
>>
>
> Typical american paranoia, deranged gun carrying idiots.
>
>
Not every american carrys a gun. I would never EVER have one in my
house! There are places over here where it is very dangerous and it
is neccessary to carry one, but again, I wouldn't.
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| Andrew Neilson |
One thing our "American Basher" seems to forget. The United States is
largely responsible for the world being as free as it is. Americans have
fought and died so that other people could have the right to be prejudiced,
narrow-minded fools. No matter what happens in the world, America is there.
When even her greatest enemies are struck with disaster and calamity, who
does the world look to? The USA. Americans are not paranoid nor are they
deranged. They are a practical, fair minded folk. They are generous and
forgiving. They are industrious and hardworking. They care deeply about
their rights and freedoms and guard them carefully. For those of you who
wish to deride Americans, just take a moment to review history and realize
where you might be now if it wasn't for this wonderful people and great
nation. Those who deride America and hurl insults are simple reacting out
of childish jealousy. Those who hate American and her citizens also hate
freedom and liberty. They would take away our right to choose and force us
to accept their warped view of how things should be. If you hate America,
then you are a kindred spirit to Osama Bin Laden and his cohorts.
One more thing. I am a Canadian.
A Soviet General Secretary was asked once if they would consider invading
the US. The reply was that invasion would be very impractical, if not
impossible, because all her citizens were too well armed.
Now THAT is freedom!
"LT" <beenswindled@notbyyou.invalid> wrote in message
news:114p3qlho9j8icf@corp.supernews.com...
> usamistreatbirds wrote:
> >>
> >
> > Typical american paranoia, deranged gun carrying idiots.
> >
> >
> Not every american carrys a gun. I would never EVER have one in my
> house! There are places over here where it is very dangerous and it
> is neccessary to carry one, but again, I wouldn't.
>
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| w.g.s.hamm |
"Andrew Neilson" <net_stuff@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:d2k8m2$8l3$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU...
> One thing our "American Basher" seems to forget. The United States is
> largely responsible for the world being as free as it is. Americans have
> fought and died so that other people could have the right to be
prejudiced,
> narrow-minded fools. No matter what happens in the world, America is
there.
> When even her greatest enemies are struck with disaster and calamity, who
> does the world look to? The USA. Americans are not paranoid nor are they
> deranged. They are a practical, fair minded folk. They are generous and
> forgiving. They are industrious and hardworking. They care deeply about
> their rights and freedoms and guard them carefully. For those of you who
> wish to deride Americans, just take a moment to review history and realize
> where you might be now if it wasn't for this wonderful people and great
> nation. Those who deride America and hurl insults are simple reacting out
> of childish jealousy. Those who hate American and her citizens also hate
> freedom and liberty. They would take away our right to choose and force
us
> to accept their warped view of how things should be. If you hate America,
> then you are a kindred spirit to Osama Bin Laden and his cohorts.
Oh don't be so bloody silly. What a load of utter twaddle. You have been
reading too muchj propoganda.
>
> One more thing. I am a Canadian.
Commiserations then.....eh.
>
> A Soviet General Secretary was asked once if they would consider invading
> the US. The reply was that invasion would be very impractical, if not
> impossible, because all her citizens were too well armed.
>
> Now THAT is freedom!
Yawn
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| David G Fisher |
Nonsense.
For example (thanks Alex), americans love to say they saved the world from
the Nazis, but it was really the Russians. Russia lost 20 million troops,
the u.s. only 200,000. Britain fought the war single-handedly after France
fell. France went to war against the Nazis, where was the u.s.?
Hollwood nonsense has brainwashed a few generations.
Dave
"Andrew Neilson" <net_stuff@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:d2k8m2$8l3$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU...
> One thing our "American Basher" seems to forget. The United States is
> largely responsible for the world being as free as it is. Americans have
> fought and died so that other people could have the right to be
prejudiced,
> narrow-minded fools. No matter what happens in the world, America is
there.
> When even her greatest enemies are struck with disaster and calamity, who
> does the world look to? The USA. Americans are not paranoid nor are they
> deranged. They are a practical, fair minded folk. They are generous and
> forgiving. They are industrious and hardworking. They care deeply about
> their rights and freedoms and guard them carefully. For those of you who
> wish to deride Americans, just take a moment to review history and realize
> where you might be now if it wasn't for this wonderful people and great
> nation. Those who deride America and hurl insults are simple reacting out
> of childish jealousy. Those who hate American and her citizens also hate
> freedom and liberty. They would take away our right to choose and force
us
> to accept their warped view of how things should be. If you hate America,
> then you are a kindred spirit to Osama Bin Laden and his cohorts.
>
> One more thing. I am a Canadian.
>
> A Soviet General Secretary was asked once if they would consider invading
> the US. The reply was that invasion would be very impractical, if not
> impossible, because all her citizens were too well armed.
>
> Now THAT is freedom!
>
>
>
> "LT" <beenswindled@notbyyou.invalid> wrote in message
> news:114p3qlho9j8icf@corp.supernews.com...
> > usamistreatbirds wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > > Typical american paranoia, deranged gun carrying idiots.
> > >
> > >
> > Not every american carrys a gun. I would never EVER have one in my
> > house! There are places over here where it is very dangerous and it
> > is neccessary to carry one, but again, I wouldn't.
> >
>
>
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| Alex Clayton |
"David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
news:MuydnVGTAs9hKNDfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
> Nonsense.
>
> For example (thanks Alex), americans love to say they saved the world from
> the Nazis, but it was really the Russians. Russia lost 20 million troops,
> the u.s. only 200,000. Britain fought the war single-handedly after France
> fell. France went to war against the Nazis, where was the u.s.?
>
> Hollwood nonsense has brainwashed a few generations.
>
> Dave
>
Thanks Alex?? Dave do you have someone read these groups to you? Maybe you
should see if you can go back to school and learn how to read for yourself?
As for your "history lesson", you should be able to sue the school you
went to if they gave you a diploma. You are a GREAT example of the problem
with public education here though.
--
Stupidity should be painful
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| Wheeler |
My grandfather would love to hear that the French and English "did it all"
oh yeah with the help of the Russians. Yeup what were you doing in Europe
granddad,,,,?
Bob W
--
Check out our web site,
A few new features and new pictures.
http://www.onemorebird.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parrotletsandfun/
"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
> news:MuydnVGTAs9hKNDfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>> Nonsense.
>>
>> For example (thanks Alex), americans love to say they saved the world
>> from
>> the Nazis, but it was really the Russians. Russia lost 20 million troops,
>> the u.s. only 200,000. Britain fought the war single-handedly after
>> France
>> fell. France went to war against the Nazis, where was the u.s.?
>>
>> Hollwood nonsense has brainwashed a few generations.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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| David G Fisher |
"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Ehk3e.3422$x4.55@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> "David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
> news:MuydnVGTAs9hKNDfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
> > Nonsense.
> >
> > For example (thanks Alex), americans love to say they saved the world
from
> > the Nazis, but it was really the Russians. Russia lost 20 million
troops,
> > the u.s. only 200,000. Britain fought the war single-handedly after
France
> > fell. France went to war against the Nazis, where was the u.s.?
> >
> > Hollwood nonsense has brainwashed a few generations.
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> Thanks Alex?? Dave do you have someone read these groups to you? Maybe you
> should see if you can go back to school and learn how to read for
yourself?
> As for your "history lesson", you should be able to sue the school you
> went to if they gave you a diploma. You are a GREAT example of the problem
> with public education here though.
> --
> Stupidity should be painful
Point out what's incorrect genius.
Dave
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| usamistreatbirds |
"Andrew Neilson" <net_stuff@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:d2k8m2$8l3$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU...
> One thing our "American Basher" seems to forget. The United States is
> largely responsible for the world being as free as it is. Americans have
> fought and died so that other people could have the right to be
> prejudiced,
> narrow-minded fools. No matter what happens in the world, America is
> there.
> When even her greatest enemies are struck with disaster and calamity, who
> does the world look to? The USA. Americans are not paranoid nor are they
> deranged. They are a practical, fair minded folk. They are generous and
> forgiving. They are industrious and hardworking. They care deeply about
> their rights and freedoms and guard them carefully. For those of you who
> wish to deride Americans, just take a moment to review history and realize
> where you might be now if it wasn't for this wonderful people and great
> nation. Those who deride America and hurl insults are simple reacting out
> of childish jealousy. Those who hate American and her citizens also hate
> freedom and liberty. They would take away our right to choose and force
> us
> to accept their warped view of how things should be. If you hate America,
> then you are a kindred spirit to Osama Bin Laden and his cohorts.
>
> One more thing. I am a Canadian.
>
> A Soviet General Secretary was asked once if they would consider invading
> the US. The reply was that invasion would be very impractical, if not
> impossible, because all her citizens were too well armed.
>
> Now THAT is freedom!
>
>
>
What a load of bollocks.
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| Laurie |
Thank you for that Andrew!
"Andrew Neilson" <net_stuff@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:d2k8m2$8l3$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU...
> One thing our "American Basher" seems to forget. The United States is
> largely responsible for the world being as free as it is. Americans have
> fought and died so that other people could have the right to be
> prejudiced,
> narrow-minded fools. No matter what happens in the world, America is
> there.
> When even her greatest enemies are struck with disaster and calamity, who
> does the world look to? The USA. Americans are not paranoid nor are they
> deranged. They are a practical, fair minded folk. They are generous and
> forgiving. They are industrious and hardworking. They care deeply about
> their rights and freedoms and guard them carefully. For those of you who
> wish to deride Americans, just take a moment to review history and realize
> where you might be now if it wasn't for this wonderful people and great
> nation. Those who deride America and hurl insults are simple reacting out
> of childish jealousy. Those who hate American and her citizens also hate
> freedom and liberty. They would take away our right to choose and force
> us
> to accept their warped view of how things should be. If you hate America,
> then you are a kindred spirit to Osama Bin Laden and his cohorts.
>
> One more thing. I am a Canadian.
>
> A Soviet General Secretary was asked once if they would consider invading
> the US. The reply was that invasion would be very impractical, if not
> impossible, because all her citizens were too well armed.
>
> Now THAT is freedom!
>
>
>
> "LT" <beenswindled@notbyyou.invalid> wrote in message
> news:114p3qlho9j8icf@corp.supernews.com...
>> usamistreatbirds wrote:
>> >>
>> >
>> > Typical american paranoia, deranged gun carrying idiots.
>> >
>> >
>> Not every american carrys a gun. I would never EVER have one in my
>> house! There are places over here where it is very dangerous and it
>> is neccessary to carry one, but again, I wouldn't.
>>
>
>
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| usamistreatbirds |
"Laurie" <iamhere@home.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you for that Andrew!
>
>
Brainwashed!
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| Deputy Dog |
Hucker is that you?
"usamistreatbirds" <usamistreat.birds@hereonthe.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Laurie" <iamhere@home.com> wrote in message
> news:ROl3e.3503$x4.3453@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > Thank you for that Andrew!
> >
> >
> Brainwashed!
>
>
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| Andrew Neilson |
ooooo, I guess I got greased out on that one....
Keep yapping, your stupidity is showing.....
"usamistreatbirds" <usamistreat.birds@hereonthe.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Andrew Neilson" <net_stuff@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:d2k8m2$8l3$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU...
> > One thing our "American Basher" seems to forget. The United States is
> > largely responsible for the world being as free as it is. Americans
have
> > fought and died so that other people could have the right to be
> > prejudiced,
> > narrow-minded fools. No matter what happens in the world, America is
> > there.
> > When even her greatest enemies are struck with disaster and calamity,
who
> > does the world look to? The USA. Americans are not paranoid nor are
they
> > deranged. They are a practical, fair minded folk. They are generous
and
> > forgiving. They are industrious and hardworking. They care deeply
about
> > their rights and freedoms and guard them carefully. For those of you
who
> > wish to deride Americans, just take a moment to review history and
realize
> > where you might be now if it wasn't for this wonderful people and great
> > nation. Those who deride America and hurl insults are simple reacting
out
> > of childish jealousy. Those who hate American and her citizens also
hate
> > freedom and liberty. They would take away our right to choose and force
> > us
> > to accept their warped view of how things should be. If you hate
America,
> > then you are a kindred spirit to Osama Bin Laden and his cohorts.
> >
> > One more thing. I am a Canadian.
> >
> > A Soviet General Secretary was asked once if they would consider
invading
> > the US. The reply was that invasion would be very impractical, if not
> > impossible, because all her citizens were too well armed.
> >
> > Now THAT is freedom!
> >
> >
> >
> What a load of bollocks.
>
>
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| Dave Bugg |
usamistreatbirds wrote:
> Brainwashed!
Brainless!
--
Dave
Dave's Pit-Smoked Bar-B-Que
http://davebbq.com/
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| Laurie |
"Dave Bugg" <davebugg2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:upp3e.1595$8B1.1101@fe06.lga...
> usamistreatbirds wrote:
>
>> Brainwashed!
>
> Brainless!
>
> --
> Dave
> Dave's Pit-Smoked Bar-B-Que
> http://davebbq.com/
LOL I guess the brainless, toothless, inbred Brits are the only ones in the
world with the ability to think for themselves! The rest of us are
brainwashed. This is why we have a democracy, while they still live under
the leadership of an inbred, completely dysfunctional royal family. Go
figure
Laurie
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| David G Fisher |
"Laurie" <iamhere@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave Bugg" <davebugg2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:upp3e.1595$8B1.1101@fe06.lga...
> > usamistreatbirds wrote:
> >
> >> Brainwashed!
> >
> > Brainless!
> >
> > --
> > Dave
> > Dave's Pit-Smoked Bar-B-Que
> > http://davebbq.com/
>
> LOL I guess the brainless, toothless, inbred Brits are the only ones in
the
> world with the ability to think for themselves! The rest of us are
> brainwashed. This is why we have a democracy, while they still live under
> the leadership of an inbred, completely dysfunctional royal family. Go
> figure
> Laurie
Hey Laurie, the whole world sees the u.s. as a bunch of fat assed, shallow,
stupid, ignorant fools who don't have a clue what's going on beyond our own
borders.
We're a mess within our own borders.
They are laughing at us.
They have no respect for us.
They're right about us.
You keep waving that flag though.
Dave
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| usamistreatbirds |
"Deputy Dog" <dave@[removethis]sibbett.com> wrote in message
news:Itm3e.6166$Fh2.3079@trnddc04...
> Hucker is that you?
>
>
>
Idiot, is that you?
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| usamistreatbirds |
"Andrew Neilson" <net_stuff@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:d2ksnf$in5$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU...
> ooooo, I guess I got greased out on that one....
>
> Keep yapping, your stupidity is showing.....
>
>
Keep replying, your stupidity has been confirmed.
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| usamistreatbirds |
"Dave Bugg" <davebugg2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:upp3e.1595$8B1.1101@fe06.lga...
> usamistreatbirds wrote:
>
>> Brainwashed!
>
> Brainless!
>
>
Ok, you are brainless as well. Thanks for your honesty.
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| usamistreatbirds |
"Laurie" <iamhere@home.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> LOL I guess the brainless, toothless, inbred Brits are the only ones in
> the world with the ability to think for themselves! The rest of us are
> brainwashed. This is why we have a democracy, while they still live under
> the leadership of an inbred, completely dysfunctional royal family. Go
> figure
> Laurie
>
And that confirms your stupidity too, the royal family are not a leadership.
We have a democratic government who run the UK, the usa followed our lead
and became a democracy when we gave you cowboys your country to you. Why
dont you give the country back to its rightful owners? The Indians.
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| Alex Clayton |
"Laurie" <iamhere@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave Bugg" <davebugg2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:upp3e.1595$8B1.1101@fe06.lga...
>> usamistreatbirds wrote:
>>
>>> Brainwashed!
>>
>> Brainless!
>>
>> --
>> Dave
>> Dave's Pit-Smoked Bar-B-Que
>> http://davebbq.com/
>
> LOL I guess the brainless, toothless, inbred Brits are the only ones in
> the world with the ability to think for themselves! The rest of us are
> brainwashed. This is why we have a democracy, while they still live under
> the leadership of an inbred, completely dysfunctional royal family. Go
> figure
> Laurie
>
I always get a good laugh out the fact that the USA with ALL these HORRIBLE
problems we have has to constantly turn away thousands of people from the
"enlightened" countries. These "much better" countries are full of people
who want only one thing in life, to be able to move to the US, wonder why?
Must be because it's sooooo damn bad here huh? LOL.
--
Things get better with age. I'm approaching magnificent!!
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| Stroud |
On 2-Apr-2005, "Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I always get a good laugh out the fact that the USA with ALL these
> HORRIBLE
> problems we have has to constantly turn away thousands of people from the
> "enlightened" countries. These "much better" countries are full of people
> who want only one thing in life, to be able to move to the US, wonder why?
>
> Must be because it's sooooo damn bad here huh? LOL.
> --
You've been brainwashed again. The only prospective immigrants you have to
turn away are starving Africans and hispanic/native Americans from backward
countries south of your borders. they get through anyway and are marrying
your kids to stay in the country. Have you not noticed how US surnames are
no longer predominantly Italian, Irish and northern European but are
changing
solidly to Spanish. It all bodes well for your future. (I don't think)
Birdman
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| sgk |
"Stroud" <Birdman@alcatraz.SF.Ca> wrote in message
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<snip>
> Have you not noticed how US surnames are
> no longer predominantly Italian, Irish and northern European but
> are
> changing
> solidly to Spanish. It all bodes well for your future. (I don't
> think)
> Birdman
So now we're taking shots at Hispanics.
I envy you. Arrogance, stupidity *and* bigotry all rolled into one
tidy little dungheap; how convenient.
---Stash
"Political Correctness is just inverted McCarthyism."
-- Dennis Miller
SPAM FILTER:
You'd have to be out of YourMind to send me email.
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| Deputy Dog |
"David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
news:VMKdnaXcnt8BLdPfRVn-vw@comcast.com...
>
> "Laurie" <iamhere@home.com> wrote in message
> news:X4y3e.2071$EE2.1728@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> > "Dave Bugg" <davebugg2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:upp3e.1595$8B1.1101@fe06.lga...
> > > usamistreatbirds wrote:
> > >
> > >> Brainwashed!
> > >
> > > Brainless!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dave
> > > Dave's Pit-Smoked Bar-B-Que
> > > http://davebbq.com/
> >
> > LOL I guess the brainless, toothless, inbred Brits are the only ones in
> the
> > world with the ability to think for themselves! The rest of us are
> > brainwashed. This is why we have a democracy, while they still live
under
> > the leadership of an inbred, completely dysfunctional royal family. Go
> > figure
> > Laurie
>
> Hey Laurie, the whole world sees the u.s. as a bunch of fat assed,
shallow,
> stupid, ignorant fools who don't have a clue what's going on beyond our
own
> borders.
>
> We're a mess within our own borders.
>
> They are laughing at us.
>
> They have no respect for us.
>
> They're right about us.
>
> You keep waving that flag though.
>
> Dave
>
>
You know Dave you may be right about a few of those things, but all things
considered there is no where else I'd rather live and no place I'd be
prouder to be a citizen of. I've been around the world several times and
lived most of my life overseas(UN brat) but still no other place I'd rather
call home. Problems and all.
Dave
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| Alex Clayton |
"Stroud" <Birdman@alcatraz.SF.Ca> wrote in message
news:WM6dnXPHGJPhbtPfRVn-pg@is.co.za...
>
>> --
>
> You've been brainwashed again. The only prospective immigrants you have to
> turn away are starving Africans and hispanic/native Americans from
> backward
> countries south of your borders. they get through anyway and are marrying
> your kids to stay in the country. Have you not noticed how US surnames are
> no longer predominantly Italian, Irish and northern European but are
> changing
> solidly to Spanish. It all bodes well for your future. (I don't think)
> Birdman
ROTFLMAO!!
This guy is posting from South Africa, so we must have someone who wants
to be in the US, but can't get in. My guess would be "Larry don't call me
Lawrence". Still mad that you could not get that green card by conning some
American to wed you huh Larry? No problem, you can stay in SA where you are
SOOOOO happy. LOL
--
Stupidity should be painful
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| Starlight |
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:50:26 -0500, "Andrew Neilson"
<net_stuff@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>A Soviet General Secretary was asked once if they would consider invading
>the US. The reply was that invasion would be very impractical, if not
>impossible, because all her citizens were too well armed.
>
Well, he was wrong, but if it kept him from invading the US, so be it.
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| Starlight |
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:33:15 GMT, "Stroud" <Birdman@alcatraz.SF.Ca>
wrote:
>
>You've been brainwashed again. The only prospective immigrants you have to
>turn away are starving Africans and hispanic/native Americans from backward
>countries south of your borders.
My daughter is involved with immigration law. You are incorrect in
your statement.
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| Stroud |
On 2-Apr-2005, "sgk" <sgk@YourMind.neo.rr.com> wrote:
> So now we're taking shots at Hispanics.
No, not racial potshots at them just potshots at their preferred methods
of generating income. If you want to term that "profiling", then feel free.
Even your own police are party to that practice. Whilst it might not be
100% PC, it certainly IS practical. The majority of your coke dealers
are definitely not WASPs.
Birdman
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| Stroud |
On 3-Apr-2005, "Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This guy is posting from South Africa, so we must have someone who wants
> to be in the US, but can't get in. My guess would be "Larry don't call me
> Lawrence".
You can call me by whatever name you want if it makes you happy.
I don't know the person you are referring to but with my university
degree I could have qualified to emigrate to the US any time I desired.
Fortunately I am still in 100% posession of all my mental faculties
and have never suffered that abberation.
Birdman.
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| usamistreatbirds |
"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>
> I always get a good laugh out the fact that the USA with ALL these
> HORRIBLE problems we have has to constantly turn away thousands of people
> from the "enlightened" countries. These "much better" countries are full
> of people who want only one thing in life, to be able to move to the US,
> wonder why? Must be because it's sooooo damn bad here huh? LOL.
> --
>
>
I've been to the usa many times, its always great to get home to the UK
though.
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| usamistreatbirds |
"Stroud" <Birdman@alcatraz.SF.Ca> wrote in message
news:36SdndbZrLC3NNLfRVn-qw@is.co.za...
>
> On 3-Apr-2005, "Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> This guy is posting from South Africa, so we must have someone who wants
>> to be in the US, but can't get in. My guess would be "Larry don't call me
>> Lawrence".
>
> You can call me by whatever name you want if it makes you happy.
> I don't know the person you are referring to but with my university
> degree I could have qualified to emigrate to the US any time I desired.
> Fortunately I am still in 100% posession of all my mental faculties
> and have never suffered that abberation.
> Birdman.
>
>
Nice one.
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| Dave Bugg |
David G Fisher wrote:
> Hey Laurie, the whole world sees the u.s. as a bunch of fat assed,
> shallow, stupid, ignorant fools who don't have a clue what's going on
> beyond our own borders.
Yawn.
--
Dave
Dave's Pit-Smoked Bar-B-Que
http://davebbq.com/
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