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| dreamark@gmail.com |
My wife and I just bought a Quaker (Noki-noki, named by our 2 year
old:-) and are excited to get him his new home (we're currently using a
loaner cage from the breeder). We've pretty much settled on a King
Cage, 26x20, but haven't decided on the color. My wife likes white
because it blends in with our home better, but we've heard white is a
bear to keep clean. I like the black w/silver, but worry that it will
stick out against our off-white walls. We've also heard that certain
colors (e.g. white?) may make it harder to see our bird when he's in
the cage.
Does anyone have any advice or a strong opinion about optimal cage
color? Any advice or personal experiences would be greatly
appreciated, including if you think the King Cage also isn't the best
choice for a cage.
Thanks!
Mark
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| BLL-bird lover lady |
Mark,
I don't know anything about the King Cage. I have often heard that
birds don't like black cages (also round cages).
I have to agree with you wife on a white cage (especially if it blends
in with your home). White, black or any other color, bird poop is bird
"poop". Cleaning the cage will be the same job no matter what color it
is. There is a product called "Poop Off" made especially for bird
"poop". They have a web site www.lifesgreatproducts.com. You might
want to contact them. The product is not that expensive and works
great. I get mine from the dealer where I get my parrot food and
supplies..it's around 9-20$ for about a 32oz spray bottle (I think).
I have a B/G macaw in a very large white cage and a grey-cheek parakeet
(not a parakeet--a little similar to a quaker) in a smaller (18X24)
white cage. The grey-cheek's cage is not a problem. They usually
"poop" where they sit or hang on the side of the cage. So watch where
you put the perches...not above the water or feed dishes!
Definitely white would be more attractive, look cleaner (even when a
little dirty) and your bird would probably like it better and look
better in it.
Hope I've helped....Good luck and keep posted as to the outcome of your
"crisis".
BLL bird lover lady
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| gamin |
dreamark@gmail.com wrote:
> My wife and I just bought a Quaker (Noki-noki, named by our 2 year
> old:-) and are excited to get him his new home (we're currently using a
> loaner cage from the breeder). We've pretty much settled on a King
> Cage, 26x20, but haven't decided on the color. My wife likes white
> because it blends in with our home better, but we've heard white is a
> bear to keep clean. I like the black w/silver, but worry that it will
> stick out against our off-white walls. We've also heard that certain
> colors (e.g. white?) may make it harder to see our bird when he's in
> the cage.
>
> Does anyone have any advice or a strong opinion about optimal cage
> color? Any advice or personal experiences would be greatly
> appreciated, including if you think the King Cage also isn't the best
> choice for a cage.
>
I find it harder to "see" the bird in white cages. I have
my eclectus in the black and silver Kings cage and am very
happy with its appearance. I have light colored wall paper
and don't notice a problem.
Janet Levy
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| Rayzorblades |
"BLL-bird lover lady" <lhoyman2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Mark,
>
> I don't know anything about the King Cage. I have often heard that
> birds don't like black cages (also round cages).
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>
Yet another pathetic " I heard" post. There is nothing wrong with black, it
is much easier to see your birds through black wire. That's why exhibition
cages are painted black on the outside.
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| BLL-bird lover lady |
OK OK Maybe I am incorrect. I have no problem seeing my "kids" in
their white cages, and I have one of the largest birds and one of the
smallest birds. Even when I had nanday conures and a sun conure in a
white cage there was no problem seeing them....ofcourse you would hear
them first too!
All I know is white looks cleaner and I find my birds seem happier in
white and they have be subjected to both colors black and white.
Mark, have you thought of a silver or gold tone cage? They are
extremely attractive and the paint won't "wear" off. Believe me even
the powdered baked on paint will "wear" off thanks to beaks.
Try looking in some parrot books and see what color cages the birds are
in. BirdTalk magazine would be an excellent source.
All the bird shows I have gone to have some black cages but most of
them are not black. These bird shows are in Atlanta (4-6 a year).
BirdTalk has a schedule of bird shows throughout the US. Bird shows
are an excellent source of information, discounted cages, toys and food
from many many breeders and suppliers. I recommend going to one if you
live in an area where there is going to be one.
BLL
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| Linda Ambrose |
dreamark@gmail.com wrote:
> We've also heard that certaincolors (e.g. white?) may make it harder to see our bird when he's in
> the cage.
Speaking for myself, I find white bars to be distracting and
annoying. I'm more "aware" of the bars.
> Does anyone have any advice or a strong opinion about optimal cage
> color? Any advice or personal experiences would be greatly
> appreciated, including if you think the King Cage also isn't the best
> choice for a cage.
With the exception of a couple of brass cages (which can tarnish over
time), all my cages have dark bars ... ranging from medium to dark blue.
I find the dark bars don't "hit me in the eyes" like the white bars.
Having said this, colour is a personal matter, of course. I've seen
cages with coloured bars, some of which are very attractive ... like
light and dark green, dark red, dark blue, brown flecked with gold. I
think whatever colour cage you and your wife choose will be fine with
your new Quaker. Buy the largest cage you can afford. Make sure it's
well built, sturdy, easy to clean, with cups strategically placed.
Although I don't own any King cages, I've heard people sing their
praises. I have Hagen, Ferplast, and Gold Nest cages and have been very
pleased with these.
> Thanks!
Hope this helps. I've had my Quaker, Kato, close to eleven years now
and he's a real character. Hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy
mine. Good luck!
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Linda
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| dkrug |
dreamark@gmail.com wrote:
> My wife and I just bought a Quaker (Noki-noki, named by our 2 year
> old:-) and are excited to get him his new home (we're currently using a
> loaner cage from the breeder). We've pretty much settled on a King
> Cage, 26x20, but haven't decided on the color. My wife likes white
> because it blends in with our home better, but we've heard white is a
> bear to keep clean. I like the black w/silver, but worry that it will
> stick out against our off-white walls. We've also heard that certain
> colors (e.g. white?) may make it harder to see our bird when he's in
> the cage.
>
> Does anyone have any advice or a strong opinion about optimal cage
> color? Any advice or personal experiences would be greatly
> appreciated, including if you think the King Cage also isn't the best
> choice for a cage.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
>
My U2 is in a white cage and my CAG is in a dark green cage. I would not
own another dark color cage. The birds both produce dander which shows
up extremely well on a dark green cage. My walls are white so the white
cage sort of blends. I think that the white cage shows dirt less over
all. The dark cage needs dusting daily or it looks dirty. JMO
Debbie, Dusty(CAG) and Casperella(U2)
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| Rayzorblades |
"BLL-bird lover lady" <lhoyman2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> OK OK Maybe I am incorrect. I have no problem seeing my "kids" in
> their white cages, and I have one of the largest birds and one of the
> smallest birds. Even when I had nanday conures and a sun conure in a
> white cage there was no problem seeing them....ofcourse you would hear
> them first too!
> All I know is white looks cleaner and I find my birds seem happier in
> white and they have be subjected to both colors black and white.
>
> Mark, have you thought of a silver or gold tone cage? They are
> extremely attractive and the paint won't "wear" off. Believe me even
> the powdered baked on paint will "wear" off thanks to beaks.
>
> Try looking in some parrot books and see what color cages the birds are
> in. BirdTalk magazine would be an excellent source.
>
> All the bird shows I have gone to have some black cages but most of
> them are not black. These bird shows are in Atlanta (4-6 a year).
> BirdTalk has a schedule of bird shows throughout the US. Bird shows
> are an excellent source of information, discounted cages, toys and food
> from many many breeders and suppliers. I recommend going to one if you
> live in an area where there is going to be one.
>
> BLL
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Bird Exhibition cages are not pet bird cages, they are mainly a box with a
wire front. The inside is painted white, green, blue (depending on species)
and the outside including the bars black. Some canary show cages are all
wire but still painted black, it makes it easier for judges to see the
birds.
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| BLL-bird lover lady |
You are probably correct...I don't know about exhibitions.
The bird shows I go to are not judging the birds they are merely
breeders and vendors there to display and market their "goodies". The
cutest display I ever saw was where someone had their babies in a
cage(whte) with bumper pads and toys just like you would expect any
"baby" to be in.
BLL
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| BLL-bird lover lady |
AMEN to that! It's kind of like dandruff on a dark sweater.
BLL
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| Rayzorblades |
"BLL-bird lover lady" <lhoyman2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You are probably correct...I don't know about exhibitions.
> The bird shows I go to are not judging the birds they are merely
> breeders and vendors there to display and market their "goodies". The
> cutest display I ever saw was where someone had their babies in a
> cage(whte) with bumper pads and toys just like you would expect any
> "baby" to be in.
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> BLL
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Birds are Birds not babies. Substituting a bird for a baby or child is very
sad indeed.
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| BLL-bird lover lady |
If birds are not ever babies what are they.? When someone displays
baby birds should they be treated just like adults birds? No, no, no I
didn't mean adult birds, I meant to say just like birds.
Have you ever gone to a bird show or do you only go to exhibitions
where the birds are judged?
I go to bird shows because the breeders there are directly involved in
the care and upbringing of the recently hatched "birds".....BABY
BIRDS!!!! as well as adult and breeder birds. I used the word
"babies" to show just exactly who some breeders treat their
"birds"...with love and spoiling them.
Should I throw my B&G macaws dearly beloved stuffed animals (which alot
of birds like) out because the are toys made for children?
How did you get the name Rayzorblades or should I even ask?
BLL I got my name because I love birds
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| dreamark@gmail.com |
Hi -- I'm the guy who posted the original message. No offense to
"Razorblades" but I'd really appreciate it if we could keep this on
topic. Your posts have largely been criticisms of the semantics of
others messages and aren't really helpful towards answering my original
questions (e.g. you addressing the use of the word "babies"). Again,
I'm not trying to sound offensive -- we just really need some advice
and deeply appreciate the opinions and experiences of everyone who has
posted. I would very much appreciate if you want to contribute an
opinion at that level -- if not, I'd respectfully ask that you share
your criticisms somewhere else, even at the individual level if you
feel that strongly about it.
Also, please know that I understand what everyone posts is an opinion
and isn't necessarily the authoritative word on a given topic. It
doesn't invalidate their experience or opinion -- in fact, the more
people share their thoughts, the more helpful it is to us in making our
decision. The tone with which you've been judging people's opinions
isn't helpful and at best has come across (at least to me) as
contentious and condescending.
Thanks again to all those who have shared -- we're still undecided and
continue to appreciate whatever insight any of you have.
Mark
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| M. Chandler |
We're bringing home a Meyers in a few weeks, and we've opted for a
chromed cage. The cage manu offers black or white powdercoat, or brass
or chrome finishes. Cleaning chrome (or brass) is easier, in my
experience. It's also a fairly neutral color, decor-wise. The Meyers,
however, its a bit brighter in color than a Quaker, so your mileage may
vary.
--
Mark Chandler
Superior, CO
http://www.MileHighSkates.com
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| Rayzorblades |
"BLL-bird lover lady" <lhoyman2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105033861.125326.221420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> If birds are not ever babies what are they.? When someone displays
> baby birds should they be treated just like adults birds? No, no, no I
> didn't mean adult birds, I meant to say just like birds.
> Have you ever gone to a bird show or do you only go to exhibitions
> where the birds are judged?
> I go to bird shows because the breeders there are directly involved in
> the care and upbringing of the recently hatched "birds".....BABY
> BIRDS!!!! as well as adult and breeder birds. I used the word
> "babies" to show just exactly who some breeders treat their
> "birds"...with love and spoiling them.
> Should I throw my B&G macaws dearly beloved stuffed animals (which alot
> of birds like) out because the are toys made for children?
>
> How did you get the name Rayzorblades or should I even ask?
> BLL I got my name because I love birds
>
Egg, Chick, Bird. Idiot.
I breed birds and have done for over 20 years, I have also exhibited my
birds until 5 years ago. My birds are treated like birds 24/7.
Birds are never babies, and shouldn't be treated like them.
At the bird sales you attend, do they sell unweaned birds?
Do you have children? I ask because you don't seem to differentiate between
a chick and a baby.
And as for my sig, are you stupid enough to think it's my real name?
Did you give yourself your sig? How does it prove you love birds?
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| Rayzorblades |
<dreamark@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1105041266.629431.149020@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hi -- I'm the guy who posted the original message. No offense to
> "Razorblades" but I'd really appreciate it if we could keep this on
> topic. Your posts have largely been criticisms of the semantics of
> others messages and aren't really helpful towards answering my original
> questions (e.g. you addressing the use of the word "babies"). Again,
> I'm not trying to sound offensive -- we just really need some advice
> and deeply appreciate the opinions and experiences of everyone who has
> posted. I would very much appreciate if you want to contribute an
> opinion at that level -- if not, I'd respectfully ask that you share
> your criticisms somewhere else, even at the individual level if you
> feel that strongly about it.
>
>
This is Usenet mark, I will post whatever and whenever I wish, whether it's
what you want to hear or not. You don't have to read my post's, do you?
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| BLL-bird lover lady |
Yes, they sell unweaned birds at the Bird Shows I attend. You can get
them with up to four feedings a day. These Bird Shows are listed in
Bird Talk Magazine so I would not consider them bird sales.
I guess baby in the bird world here is an affectionate terminology
I have always seen birds advertised as "hand-fed babies". I guess
these breeders care.
I have seen other items you have posted so I know where you get your
name. I really would appreciate it if you could tone down you
language. From what I have heard there are rules of conduct associated
with use of the Google Groups.
Yes, I love birds and I used my BLL as my signature because most of my
friends know I really care about birds.
BLL
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| Rayzorblades |
"BLL-bird lover lady" <lhoyman2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105221911.282227.48250@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Yes, they sell unweaned birds at the Bird Shows I attend. You can get
> them with up to four feedings a day. These Bird Shows are listed in
> Bird Talk Magazine so I would not consider them bird sales.
> I guess baby in the bird world here is an affectionate terminology
>
> I have always seen birds advertised as "hand-fed babies". I guess
> these breeders care.
>
> I have seen other items you have posted so I know where you get your
> name. I really would appreciate it if you could tone down you
> language. From what I have heard there are rules of conduct associated
> with use of the Google Groups.
>
> Yes, I love birds and I used my BLL as my signature because most of my
> friends know I really care about birds.
>
> BLL
>
Do you think it's ok to sell unweaned birds?
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| BLL-bird lover lady |
Why not? If you are experienced, it can be a bonding time. Ofcourse
you need to know what you are doing and what to look for but yes I
think it is ok to sell unweaned birds. Especially those with maybe 2
feedings a day.
Lets all stick to the subject of the author. From what I have read
from him, he would like to keep these comments directly on the subject.
Let's have some respect for him. He has asked for input to his
question and not our output on everything else including snide smart
alect remarks.
Thanks and have a wonderful day.
BLL
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| Deputy Dog |
Are you what they call a Moderator?
"BLL-bird lover lady" <lhoyman2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Why not? If you are experienced, it can be a bonding time. Ofcourse
> you need to know what you are doing and what to look for but yes I
> think it is ok to sell unweaned birds. Especially those with maybe 2
> feedings a day.
>
> Lets all stick to the subject of the author. From what I have read
> from him, he would like to keep these comments directly on the subject.
> Let's have some respect for him. He has asked for input to his
> question and not our output on everything else including snide smart
> alect remarks.
>
> Thanks and have a wonderful day.
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> BLL
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| Wheeler |
Yes, if the buyer can prove to me that they know how to feed properly. I
sell unweaned birds every year. I also buy unweaned birds when adding to my
flocks.
Bob Wheeler
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A few new features and new pictures.
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> Do you think it's ok to sell unweaned birds?
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| Wheeler |
Generally it is more acceptable to call them chicks but hey baby birds
works, it's the happy bappy fid freaks that drive me up a wall. I raise
birds not fids, my pets are birds not bappies.
Bob W
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A few new features and new pictures.
http://www.onemorebird.com/
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"BLL-bird lover lady" <lhoyman2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105221911.282227.48250@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Yes, they sell unweaned birds at the Bird Shows I attend. You can get
> them with up to four feedings a day. These Bird Shows are listed in
> Bird Talk Magazine so I would not consider them bird sales.
> I guess baby in the bird world here is an affectionate terminology
>
> I have always seen birds advertised as "hand-fed babies". I guess
> these breeders care.
>
> I have seen other items you have posted so I know where you get your
> name. I really would appreciate it if you could tone down you
> language. From what I have heard there are rules of conduct associated
> with use of the Google Groups.
>
> Yes, I love birds and I used my BLL as my signature because most of my
> friends know I really care about birds.
>
> BLL
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| LadyTech |
"BLL-bird lover lady" <lhoyman2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Why not? If you are experienced, it can be a bonding time.
Ofcourse
> you need to know what you are doing and what to look for but yes I
> think it is ok to sell unweaned birds. Especially those with maybe
2
> feedings a day.
>
> Lets all stick to the subject of the author. From what I have read
> from him, he would like to keep these comments directly on the
subject.
Are you the moderator in this group?
> Let's have some respect for him. He has asked for input to his
> question and not our output on everything else including snide smart
> alect remarks.
>
> Thanks and have a wonderful day.
>
> BLL
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