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Hi all, I've copied this post from a different new group that is for the UK,
I thought it might be of some interest here and if anyone at all knows of
anyone that can help, this is a desperate situation.
Michele
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"I wanted to bring this to everybody's attention because I am at a
loss what to do. Some of you may be aware of the breeder in Denmark that
breeds angora ferrets? Now I know that angora's are perhaps a contentious
issue with some but it has been bought to my attention that, due to new EU
regulations, around 950 ferrets from this farm are to be gassed if they have
not been sold by January. Let me stress that to the best of my knowledge,
the owner of the farm is devastated and is trying to find a buyer for the
ferrets outside the EU. It is my understanding that if a buyer is not found
by January then the authorities will gas the animals.
Their justification for doing so is that apparently the owner has not
granted the minimal amount of space to each ferret on the farm as specified
in these new guidelines. To comply with the new laws means needing to sell
on about 1000 ferrets. Whilst I can see the vital importance of ensuring
that each animal has enough space I am appalled that the resolution is to
murder half the animals in order to create that space.
I have been in touch with the owner of the farm and he says that he
must sell the animals in bulk and they must be exported outside the EU. I
had hoped that we in the U.K. might be able to club together and rescue some
but if not then surely there must be something we can do? Can't we alert the
international press or call together some animal rights groups to save these
poor animals? Perhaps I am being naive but it breaks my heart to think that
in two months time 950 animals are going to die an awful death because of a
new law.
I apologise in advance if any of the information here is not entirely
accurate but this is what I have been given to understand so far."
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| ex WGS Hamm |
"M" <m.nospam.pereira@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi all, I've copied this post from a different new group that is for the
UK,
> I thought it might be of some interest here and if anyone at all knows of
> anyone that can help, this is a desperate situation.
>
> Michele
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> please remove .nospam. to reply
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>
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>
>
> "I wanted to bring this to everybody's attention because I am at a
> loss what to do. Some of you may be aware of the breeder in Denmark that
> breeds angora ferrets? Now I know that angora's are perhaps a contentious
> issue with some but it has been bought to my attention that, due to new EU
> regulations, around 950 ferrets from this farm are to be gassed if they
have
> not been sold by January. Let me stress that to the best of my knowledge,
> the owner of the farm is devastated and is trying to find a buyer for the
> ferrets outside the EU. It is my understanding that if a buyer is not
found
> by January then the authorities will gas the animals.
>
> Their justification for doing so is that apparently the owner has
not
> granted the minimal amount of space to each ferret on the farm as
specified
> in these new guidelines. To comply with the new laws means needing to sell
> on about 1000 ferrets. Whilst I can see the vital importance of ensuring
> that each animal has enough space I am appalled that the resolution is to
> murder half the animals in order to create that space.
>
> I have been in touch with the owner of the farm and he says that he
> must sell the animals in bulk and they must be exported outside the EU. I
> had hoped that we in the U.K. might be able to club together and rescue
some
> but if not then surely there must be something we can do? Can't we alert
the
> international press or call together some animal rights groups to save
these
> poor animals? Perhaps I am being naive but it breaks my heart to think
that
> in two months time 950 animals are going to die an awful death because of
a
> new law.
>
> I apologise in advance if any of the information here is not
entirely
> accurate but this is what I have been given to understand so far."
>
>
>
How can anyone help you have not posted links to the griup or the breeder.
I cannot understand why they need to be out of the EU unless the breeder
wants to protect her investment and not have any breeder competition within
the EU. Certainly legally there is no barrier to ferrets coming from Denmark
to the UK and I would happily help fund the import of some of these ferrets.
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| SeaAce |
"M" <m.nospam.pereira@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:kormd.24931$P7.2439@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Hi all, I've copied this post from a different new group that is for the
UK,
> I thought it might be of some interest here and if anyone at all knows of
> anyone that can help, this is a desperate situation.
>
> Michele
> ------------------------------------
> please remove .nospam. to reply
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> "I wanted to bring this to everybody's attention because I am at a
> loss what to do. Some of you may be aware of the breeder in Denmark that
> breeds angora ferrets? Now I know that angora's are perhaps a contentious
> issue with some but it has been bought to my attention that, due to new EU
> regulations, around 950 ferrets from this farm are to be gassed if they
have
> not been sold by January. Let me stress that to the best of my knowledge,
> the owner of the farm is devastated and is trying to find a buyer for the
> ferrets outside the EU. It is my understanding that if a buyer is not
found
> by January then the authorities will gas the animals.
>
> Their justification for doing so is that apparently the owner has
not
> granted the minimal amount of space to each ferret on the farm as
specified
> in these new guidelines. To comply with the new laws means needing to sell
> on about 1000 ferrets. Whilst I can see the vital importance of ensuring
> that each animal has enough space I am appalled that the resolution is to
> murder half the animals in order to create that space.
>
> I have been in touch with the owner of the farm and he says that he
> must sell the animals in bulk and they must be exported outside the EU. I
> had hoped that we in the U.K. might be able to club together and rescue
some
> but if not then surely there must be something we can do? Can't we alert
the
> international press or call together some animal rights groups to save
these
> poor animals? Perhaps I am being naive but it breaks my heart to think
that
> in two months time 950 animals are going to die an awful death because of
a
> new law.
>
> I apologise in advance if any of the information here is not
entirely
> accurate but this is what I have been given to understand so far."
>
>
The attached link gives information about the angoras and their plight!
http://www.ferret-universe.com/angora/index.asp
John
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| Happy Camper |
"SeaAce" <neptune@sea.com> wrote in message
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> "M" <m.nospam.pereira@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:kormd.24931$P7.2439@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Hi all, I've copied this post from a different new group that is for the
> UK,
> > I thought it might be of some interest here and if anyone at all knows
of
> > anyone that can help, this is a desperate situation.
>
Very disturbing. I am in the US and would love to help but have no idea how
I can. We could taek on ferret into our household if that was a possibility
but above and beyond that not sure what I can do. Any thoughts?
HC
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| ex WGS Hamm |
"SeaAce" <neptune@sea.com> wrote in message
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> "M" <m.nospam.pereira@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:kormd.24931$P7.2439@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Hi all, I've copied this post from a different new group that is for the
> UK,
> > I thought it might be of some interest here and if anyone at all knows
of
> > anyone that can help, this is a desperate situation.
> >
> > Michele
> > ------------------------------------
> > please remove .nospam. to reply
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "I wanted to bring this to everybody's attention because I am at a
> > loss what to do. Some of you may be aware of the breeder in Denmark that
> > breeds angora ferrets? Now I know that angora's are perhaps a
contentious
> > issue with some but it has been bought to my attention that, due to new
EU
> > regulations, around 950 ferrets from this farm are to be gassed if they
> have
> > not been sold by January. Let me stress that to the best of my
knowledge,
> > the owner of the farm is devastated and is trying to find a buyer for
the
> > ferrets outside the EU. It is my understanding that if a buyer is not
> found
> > by January then the authorities will gas the animals.
> >
> > Their justification for doing so is that apparently the owner has
> not
> > granted the minimal amount of space to each ferret on the farm as
> specified
> > in these new guidelines. To comply with the new laws means needing to
sell
> > on about 1000 ferrets. Whilst I can see the vital importance of ensuring
> > that each animal has enough space I am appalled that the resolution is
to
> > murder half the animals in order to create that space.
> >
> > I have been in touch with the owner of the farm and he says that
he
> > must sell the animals in bulk and they must be exported outside the EU.
I
> > had hoped that we in the U.K. might be able to club together and rescue
> some
> > but if not then surely there must be something we can do? Can't we alert
> the
> > international press or call together some animal rights groups to save
> these
> > poor animals? Perhaps I am being naive but it breaks my heart to think
> that
> > in two months time 950 animals are going to die an awful death because
of
> a
> > new law.
> >
> > I apologise in advance if any of the information here is not
> entirely
> > accurate but this is what I have been given to understand so far."
> >
> >
> The attached link gives information about the angoras and their plight!
>
> http://www.ferret-universe.com/angora/index.asp
I saw nothing about Soren not letting them come to the UK. Gassing is the
way millions of fur ferrets die in any case. His breeding stock will not be
cuddly pets but simply breeding stock. IMHO this is purely emotional
blackmail on the part of a large scale breeder who is happy to cram breeding
ferrets into the absolute minimum of spcae and then start threatening to
kill *all* of his ferrets if he is not allowed to carry on. Why would he
kill all of his ferrets? Why not sell some pf them to other people
throughout the EU in order to reduce numbers and raise money to enlarge the
breeding cages? Quite simply because then he would not be able to have a
corner of a lucrative business.
The soft hearted people have once again been duped.
I have to say that if indeed the ferrets are kept in as bad conditions as
most fur animals are kept, then death will not be a dreadful thing for them.
Folks, when you read tales like this please do not look at your own
affectionate tame ferrets and think that this commercial breeders ferrets
are anything like yours. They are not.
The fact that he was happy selling them to an importer who knew bugger all
about ferrets and fed them on dog kibble, should tell you a lot. MONEY,£ £ £
£ $ $ $ $ $ is all he cares about.
I would not be surprised if some foolish person opened a paypal account for
other foolosh people to donate to in order to help him make his cages bigger
and thus 'save' his breeder ferrets.
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| M |
"ex WGS Hamm" <alpha.bitchREMOVETHIS@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> I have to say that if indeed the ferrets are kept in as bad conditions as
> most fur animals are kept, then death will not be a dreadful thing for
them.
Yes the ferrets are kept in terrible conditions, but so are many ferrets
that are kept as pets, that's why we have rescue centres to help these
unfortunate creatures, who take them out of poor conditions and give them a
better life, what would happen if every animal kept in bad conditions was
killed? Yes the owner of this farm is selfish and greedy and only cares
about cash, but at the end of the day there are hundreds of ferrets that
desperately need help.
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| Jim Higgins |
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:52:41 +0000 (UTC), in
<cnf719$mnv$1@sparta.btinternet.com>, "SeaAce" <neptune@sea.com>
wrote:
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>"M" <m.nospam.pereira@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:kormd.24931$P7.2439@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> Hi all, I've copied this post from a different new group that is for the
>UK,
>> I thought it might be of some interest here and if anyone at all knows of
>> anyone that can help, this is a desperate situation.
>>
>> Michele
>> ------------------------------------
>> please remove .nospam. to reply
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> "I wanted to bring this to everybody's attention because I am at a
>> loss what to do. Some of you may be aware of the breeder in Denmark that
>> breeds angora ferrets? Now I know that angora's are perhaps a contentious
>> issue with some but it has been bought to my attention that, due to new EU
>> regulations, around 950 ferrets from this farm are to be gassed if they
>have
>> not been sold by January. Let me stress that to the best of my knowledge,
>> the owner of the farm is devastated and is trying to find a buyer for the
>> ferrets outside the EU. It is my understanding that if a buyer is not
>found
>> by January then the authorities will gas the animals.
>>
>> Their justification for doing so is that apparently the owner has
>not
>> granted the minimal amount of space to each ferret on the farm as
>specified
>> in these new guidelines. To comply with the new laws means needing to sell
>> on about 1000 ferrets. Whilst I can see the vital importance of ensuring
>> that each animal has enough space I am appalled that the resolution is to
>> murder half the animals in order to create that space.
>>
>> I have been in touch with the owner of the farm and he says that he
>> must sell the animals in bulk and they must be exported outside the EU. I
>> had hoped that we in the U.K. might be able to club together and rescue
>some
>> but if not then surely there must be something we can do? Can't we alert
>the
>> international press or call together some animal rights groups to save
>these
>> poor animals? Perhaps I am being naive but it breaks my heart to think
>that
>> in two months time 950 animals are going to die an awful death because of
>a
>> new law.
>>
>>I apologise in advance if any of the information here is not
>>entirely accurate but this is what I have been given to
>>understand so far."
>
>The attached link gives information about the angoras and their plight!
>http://www.ferret-universe.com/angora/index.asp
Reading this link a bit more closely than the original author
apparently did I find:
"In 2004, a new law was passed In Europe (excluding Spain and
Portugal) to take effect January 1, 2005, headed by an Animal
Rights group that mandates all ferrets bred for pets (those being
bred for fur were excluded) must be housed in cages substantially
larger than what has been customarily used. A large majority of
breeders, including Soren are simply unable to comply with this
new law, as they do not have enough land to house the quantity
and sizes of cages needed, nor the means to fund such an
expansion. This law driven and headed by the Animal Rights group
to be effective January 1, 2005, provides no alternatives but to
comply or have their entire stock of ferrets gassed to death
(that was a better option in their eyes). Soren is not sitting by
idly, allowing his angora ferrets to simply be killed. He is
receiving and evaluating offers from Holland and other countries
who have the space to abide by this new law, as well as from some
of the large breeders in the US. If Soren can not place all his
angora ferrets by the first of the year, 99.9% he will be
provided an extension to do so. Depending on the outcome, this
could also mean the end of the true Danish Angora ferret in the
US."
The key words being "If Soren can not place all his angora
ferrets by the first of the year, 99.9% he will be provided an
extension to do so."
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| ex WGS Hamm |
"M" <m.nospam.pereira@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "ex WGS Hamm" <alpha.bitchREMOVETHIS@virgin.net> wrote in message
> news:FdImd.82$5y3.27@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> > I have to say that if indeed the ferrets are kept in as bad conditions
as
> > most fur animals are kept, then death will not be a dreadful thing for
> them.
>
> Yes the ferrets are kept in terrible conditions, but so are many ferrets
> that are kept as pets, that's why we have rescue centres to help these
> unfortunate creatures, who take them out of poor conditions and give them
a
> better life, what would happen if every animal kept in bad conditions was
> killed? Yes the owner of this farm is selfish and greedy and only cares
> about cash, but at the end of the day there are hundreds of ferrets that
> desperately need help.
>
>
I don't believe they do I'm afraid. They are not pets and were never
destined to be pets. Once their short breeding life was over they would have
been gassed. It is sad, but animals die every day and I think your efforts
might be better directed at helping pet ferrets who are in real misery in
your own country wherever that might be, and not helping a welathy
commercial breeder who is not really bothered whether they die. They will be
gassed in a few months or a year or so in anycase as he replaces worn out
breeder stock with fresh blood.
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