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| anangrymouse |
I bought a pair of red faced love birds in a pet store. Big mistake. They
were not hand raised.
They are terrified of my hands. Seems like they were grabbed too much
before I got them.
If I put my hands anywhere near them, they start screaming and flapping
violently around in terror.
So when I talk to them I put my hands in my pockets or behind my back.
The feathers of their wings were trimmed so at first they could not fly well
and I let them out
so they could sit on top of the cage which I placed by a large mirror..
They totalled the lamp
shade while they were toasting their bottoms on the light bulb. (Why do all
birds total lampshades?)
They are not as afraid of me when they are out of the cage, but when I go to
talk to them,
they usually climb down the back of the cage so the bars are between me and
them.
They started talking almost right away. They expect to be let out of the
cage when I come home.
They scream if they don't like the menu. They have done many things which
make it clear they
understand what I want them to do. They understand that it is bad to chew
wallpaper off the
wall and they will be punished by my shutting off the lights and making them
go in the cage. They
know what go in the cage means. However, they are just not friendly and
very scary.
I have had them about 3 months. They have grown much larger so they must
have been
very young when I got them.
They are running around on top of the cage upstairs right now, twittering
"pretty birdie,"
jumping off and on the frame of the totalled lampshade, looking in the
mirror and chewing on a millet branch.
How do I tame them?
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| oldmolly |
"anangrymouse" <angrymouse@mousehole.org> wrote in message
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> I bought a pair of red faced love birds in a pet store. Big mistake. They
> were not hand raised.
>
> They are terrified of my hands. Seems like they were grabbed too much
> before I got them.
> If I put my hands anywhere near them, they start screaming and flapping
> violently around in terror.
> So when I talk to them I put my hands in my pockets or behind my back.
>
> The feathers of their wings were trimmed so at first they could not fly
well
> and I let them out
> so they could sit on top of the cage which I placed by a large mirror..
> They totalled the lamp
> shade while they were toasting their bottoms on the light bulb. (Why do
all
> birds total lampshades?)
>
> They are not as afraid of me when they are out of the cage, but when I go
to
> talk to them,
> they usually climb down the back of the cage so the bars are between me
and
> them.
>
> They started talking almost right away. They expect to be let out of the
> cage when I come home.
> They scream if they don't like the menu. They have done many things which
> make it clear they
> understand what I want them to do. They understand that it is bad to chew
> wallpaper off the
> wall and they will be punished by my shutting off the lights and making
them
> go in the cage. They
> know what go in the cage means. However, they are just not friendly and
> very scary.
>
> I have had them about 3 months. They have grown much larger so they must
> have been
> very young when I got them.
>
> They are running around on top of the cage upstairs right now, twittering
> "pretty birdie,"
> jumping off and on the frame of the totalled lampshade, looking in the
> mirror and chewing on a millet branch.
>
> How do I tame them?
>
>
Birds do *not* kniow it is bad to chew wallpaper. Birds need to chew and
your punishing them for doing what comes naturally is unkind.You should be
ensuring that they are unable to get into situations which are dangerous for
them. Wallpaper paste is toxix, the lamp bulb could have burned them, they
may have chewed the flex.
You bought, on impulse, a pair of aviary birds. You appear to have done
little or no research into bird care and lovebirds. Take it from me, you
will never tame them. I don't believe that they talk either, sorry.This
statement in particular:
"They have done many things which
make it clear they
understand what I want them to do."
Makes me wonder why on earth you got these birds. It appears as though you
simply want them so that they can perform tricks, or talk, or keep you
amused in some way . I doubt very much that 2 scared, probably not hand
reared lovebirds, would talk and somehow 'know' what you want them to do.
(whatever *that* may be).
I suggest you rethink the situation, do an awful lot of reading about how
to care for your birds, and lovebirds in general. Don't expect anything of
them, simply enjoy them for the intelligent living things they are. In time,
they might become less afraid of you. In the meantime, it is your duty to
care for them and to ensure that they cannot get into a situation which
might harm them.
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| Steve |
"anangrymouse" <angrymouse@mousehole.org> wrote in message
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> I bought a pair of red faced love birds in a pet store. Big mistake. They
> were not hand raised.
Find a new home for them.
>
>
> How do I tame them?
>
>
While I don't believe that these birds are untamable, I do not believe that
you are capable of what it would take to do the job.
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Steve
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| Digital_Cowboy |
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Welp, I see that not much has changed (NOT that I expcted it to). Old Molly
instead of asking questions and offering advice goes stright to insults and
assuming facts NOT presented by the poster.
| Birds do *not* kniow it is bad to chew wallpaper. Birds need to chew and your
punishing them for doing what comes naturally is unkind.
Have you not ever punished a dog for chewing on a shoe, table leg, etc??? I
guess punishing them for doing so is just as "unkind" as it is to punish a bird
for chewing on something "inappropriate.
| "You should be ensuring that they are unable to get into situations which are
dangerous for them.
Which is the reason that people CLIP their birds wings. . .
| Wallpaper paste is toxix, the lamp bulb could have burned them, they may have
chewed the flex. You bought, on impulse, a pair of aviary birds.
What makes you so cocksure that it was an "impulse" purchase, or that they
were a pair of aviary birds??? Just because they hadn't been hand reared
DOESN'T mean that they're aviary birds. . .They could have seen the birds in a
shop where they were being poorly taken care of, and thought that they
| You appear to have done little or no research into bird care and lovebirds.
What makes you so sure that said poster hasn't done any research? They
could have and run into people such as yourself i.e. people who make assumptions
without knowing all of the fact? And who instead of offering help start with
the insults and accusations.
| Take it from me, you will never tame them. I don't believe that they talk
either, sorry.
I do believe that if I am not mistaken that I've seen posters who have said
that their lovebirds do talk. As well as IF I am NOT mistaken the poster said
that they've started to talk almost immediately.
| This statement in particular:
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| "They have done many things which make it clear they understand what I want
them to do."
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| Makes me wonder why on earth you got these birds.
As stated above maybe JUST maybe they were in a much worse situation and the
person thought that they were rescuing them?
| It appears as though you simply want them so that they can perform tricks, or
talk, or keep you amused in some way.
Uh, where did the person make any statements that even remotely suggest
that???
| I doubt very much that 2 scared, probably not hand reared lovebirds, would
talk and somehow 'know' what you want them to do. (whatever *that* may be). I
suggest you rethink the situation, do an awful lot of reading about how to care
for your birds, and lovebirds in general. Don't expect anything of them, simply
enjoy them for the intelligent living things they are. In time, they might
become less afraid of you. In the meantime, it is your duty to care for them and
to ensure that they cannot get into a situation which might harm them.
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"Steve" <mister(yathatsme)jynx@onehotmail.com> wrote in message
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| "anangrymouse" <angrymouse@mousehole.org> wrote in message
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| > I bought a pair of red faced love birds in a pet store. Big mistake. They
were not hand raised.
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| Find a new home for them.
Just who the bloody hell are you to tell someone that they should find a new
home for them??? Why DON'T you try asking some constructive questions???
|
| > How do I tame them?
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| While I don't believe that these birds are untamable, I do not believe that
you are capable of what it would take to do the job.
Do you always jump to conclusions about people and what they are and aren't
capable of???
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| Steve
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| S G |
I'm usually just a 'Lurker' but I had to to say "BRAVO" Steve! That is
the very reason I don't post at any of these places, you get treated
like your stupid and are not capable of taking care of your birds from
people that do not even know you!
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| Loren Coe |
In article <qpadnfrdxKqS11ii4p2dnA@comcast.com>, anangrymouse wrote:
> I bought a pair of red faced love birds in a pet store. Big mistake. They
> were not hand raised.
>
> They are terrified of my hands. Seems like they were grabbed too much ...>
> They are not as afraid of me when they are out of the cage, but when I go to
> talk to them,
> they usually climb down the back of the cage so the bars are between me and
> them. >
> They started talking almost right away. They expect to be let out of the
> cage when I come home. ....>
> I have had them about 3 months. They have grown much larger so they must
> have been > very young when I got them. ....> > How do I tame them?
there have been some helpful suggestions about this situation, not necessarily
specific to species. if you can use google or dogpile, try to find them. within
the past 6mos were some good ones.
one suggestion is to free them in a small room, like a closet and sit with them
to show that you are not going to harm them. the reason they seem friendlier when
out of the cage is that you become a "protector', especially when they are on the
floor. they seem to tolerate your standing quite close, but still spook when offered
a finger.
the use of gloves was discussed (prompted recently by myself) and seems to be a point
of discussion. i cannot recommend for or against gloves right now.
anyhoo, good luck! --Loren
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| High Flight |
S G <familyjpgs@webtv.net> says...
> I'm usually just a 'Lurker' but I had to to say "BRAVO" Steve! That is
> the very reason I don't post at any of these places,
Grow up. Nobody's forcing you to read every post.
> you get treated like your stupid
^^^^
Hmmm.
Jack
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| Birds do *not* kniow it is bad to chew wallpaper. Birds need to chew and
| your punishing them for doing what comes naturally is unkind.You should be
| ensuring that they are unable to get into situations which are dangerous for
| them. Wallpaper paste is toxix, the lamp bulb could have burned them, they
| may have chewed the flex.
| You bought, on impulse, a pair of aviary birds. You appear to have done
| little or no research into bird care and lovebirds. Take it from me, you
| will never tame them. I don't believe that they talk either, sorry.This
| statement in particular:
|
| "They have done many things which
| make it clear they
| understand what I want them to do."
|
| Makes me wonder why on earth you got these birds. It appears as though you
| simply want them so that they can perform tricks, or talk, or keep you
| amused in some way . I doubt very much that 2 scared, probably not hand
| reared lovebirds, would talk and somehow 'know' what you want them to do.
| (whatever *that* may be).
| I suggest you rethink the situation, do an awful lot of reading about how
| to care for your birds, and lovebirds in general. Don't expect anything of
| them, simply enjoy them for the intelligent living things they are. In time,
| they might become less afraid of you. In the meantime, it is your duty to
| care for them and to ensure that they cannot get into a situation which
| might harm them.
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OM,
IF non-hand fed birds are "so" hard to "tame" then how come my new 'tiel who
WASN'T a hand fed bird is right tame and friendly???
DC
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| Noah Sark |
SHUT YER PIEHOLE, TINKERBELL!!! NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO BE HERE!!!
"High Flight" <jac@apk.net> wrote in message
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> S G <familyjpgs@webtv.net> says...
> > I'm usually just a 'Lurker' but I had to to say "BRAVO" Steve! That is
> > the very reason I don't post at any of these places,
>
> Grow up. Nobody's forcing you to read every post.
>
>
> > you get treated like your stupid
> ^^^^
> Hmmm.
>
> Jack
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> --
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| Steve |
"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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^at least you know it.
> OM,
>
> IF non-hand fed birds are "so" hard to "tame" then how come my new
'tiel who
> WASN'T a hand fed bird is right tame and friendly???
>
> DC
The phrase "hard to tame" does not (as you seem to think) mean impossible to
tame. Besides that, lovebirds are a far different animal than cockatiels.
A non tame lovebird will take a hell of a lot more effort than a cockatiel
and two lovebirds housed together will be even more challenging.
--
Steve
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| Steve |
"S G" <familyjpgs@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> I'm usually just a 'Lurker' but I had to to say "BRAVO" Steve [DC]! That
is
> the very reason I don't post at any of these places, you get treated
> like your [you're] stupid and are not capable of taking care of your birds
from
> people that do not even know you!
>
Or is it because you lack confidence in your abilities because you know that
you are nothing but a moron?
--
Steve
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| Steve |
"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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>
> Just who the bloody hell are you to tell someone that they should find
a new
> home for them??? Why DON'T you try asking some constructive questions???
>
I didn't say that he "should" find them a new home. It was merely a
suggestion based on his ignorance.
>
> Do you always jump to conclusions about people and what they are and
aren't
> capable of???
No. But often time I do. Especially when people buy things when they have
no idea what they are buying or how to deal with it.
Next.
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Steve
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"Steve" <mister(yathatsme)jynx@tohmail.com> wrote in message
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| "Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
| news:z5Cxb.299119$pT1.98726@twister.nyc.rr.com...
| ^at least you know it.
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| > OM,
| >
| > IF non-hand fed birds are "so" hard to "tame" then how come my new 'tiel
who WASN'T a hand fed bird is right tame and friendly???
| >
| > DC
|
| The phrase "hard to tame" does not (as you seem to think) mean impossible to
tame. Besides that, lovebirds are a far different animal than cockatiels. A
non tame | lovebird will take a hell of a lot more effort than a cockatiel and
two lovebirds housed together will be even more challenging.
|
| --
Steve,
You're not telling me anything that I don't already know. About lovebirds
that is. I've got one, and I know what they can be like.
And again it looks as IF you are jumping to the conclusion, that the person
who was asking for advice concerning their lovebirds isn't up to the challenge.
DC
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"Steve" <mister(yathatsme)jynx@tohmail.com> wrote in message
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| "S G" <familyjpgs@webtv.net> wrote in message
| news:28508-3FC68449-248@storefull-2334.public.lawson.webtv.net...
| > I'm usually just a 'Lurker' but I had to to say "BRAVO" Steve [DC]! That is
the very reason I don't post at any of these places, you get treated like your
[you're] stupid and are not capable of taking care of your birds from people
that do not even know you!
| >
|
| Or is it because you lack confidence in your abilities because you know that
you are nothing but a moron?
No, more likely than not it's because they have come to know that the "know
it all element" such as yourself will find fault with EVERY little thing that
they ask or try to say. And they just don't want to have to put up with "your"
BS.
DC
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"Steve" <mister(yathatsme)jynx@tohmail.com> wrote in message
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| "Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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| >
| > Just who the bloody hell are you to tell someone that they should find
| a new
| > home for them??? Why DON'T you try asking some constructive questions???
| >
|
| I didn't say that he "should" find them a new home. It was merely a
| suggestion based on his ignorance.
Hmm, "Find a new home for them." DOESN'T sound like a "suggestion" it
sounds as IF you are flat out telling them to find a new home for their birds.
|
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| >
| > Do you always jump to conclusions about people and what they are and
aren't capable of???
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| No. But often time I do. Especially when people buy things when they have no
idea what they are buying or how to deal with it.
Ok, so which is it??? Either you do, or you don't? From your response "But
often time I do" it sounds as if you do make it a habit to jump to conclusions
about people. . .And again what makes you so cocksure that this person had no
idea as to what they were buying/getting into??? Have you ever considered
asking constructive questions BEFORE you start to "attack and/or insult" a
person who has posted a question???
For all you know there could have been a VERY good reason why they choose to
purchase those two birds at that particular time.
DC
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Anangrymouse,
IF ya don't mind my asking, what prompted you to purchase that particular
pair of lovebirds, and what is your past experience with lovebirds and/or
parrots in general?
DC
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| Wheeler |
Teils are easy, I do have a few wild caught (older) Amanzons and Senegals I
would love to see some brave soul make, "tame and friendly". I will supply
iodine and bandaids.........
Bob W
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>
> IF non-hand fed birds are "so" hard to "tame" then how come my new
'tiel who
> WASN'T a hand fed bird is right tame and friendly???
>
> DC
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| Steve |
">
> You're not telling me anything that I don't already know. About
lovebirds
> that is. I've got one, and I know what they can be like.
>
Then why are you trying to compare your 'tiel to a pair of lovebirds?
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Steve
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"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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> "Steve" <mister(yathatsme)jynx@tohmail.com> wrote in message
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> | "S G" <familyjpgs@webtv.net> wrote in message
> | news:28508-3FC68449-248@storefull-2334.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> | > I'm usually just a 'Lurker' but I had to to say "BRAVO" Steve [DC]!
That is
> the very reason I don't post at any of these places, you get treated like
your
> [you're] stupid and are not capable of taking care of your birds from
people
> that do not even know you!
> | >
> |
> | Or is it because you lack confidence in your abilities because you know
that
> you are nothing but a moron?
>
> No, more likely than not it's because they have come to know that the
"know
> it all element" such as yourself will find fault with EVERY little thing
that
> they ask or try to say. And they just don't want to have to put up with
"your"
> BS.
>
> DC
Got any facts to back that up?
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Steve
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| Steve |
"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hmm, "Find a new home for them." DOESN'T sound like a "suggestion" it
> sounds as IF you are flat out telling them to find a new home for their
birds.
>
Read it any way you want.
They'll end up in a different home anyway. Most birds do, especially when
they are not what the buyer expected.
> | >
> | > Do you always jump to conclusions about people and what they are
and
> aren't capable of???
> |
> | No. But often time I do. Especially when people buy things when they
have no
> idea what they are buying or how to deal with it.
>
> Ok, so which is it??? Either you do, or you don't?
"Do you always...?"
Always? No.
Less than always / more than never? Yes.
Not that difficult of a concept. It seems you can't even comprehend your
own questions.
> From your response "But
> often time I do" it sounds as if you do make it a habit to jump to
conclusions
> about people. . .
Yep, it sure does look that way.
But why bother accusing me of something I just admitted? What purpose does
that serve?
> And again what makes you so cocksure that this person had no
> idea as to what they were buying/getting into???
He bought the things several months ago and is only now asking questions.
If he thought he could tame the birds he was wrong. If he had known what he
was getting into, he wouldn't have waited so long to ask for the help he
needs.
> Have you ever considered
> asking constructive questions BEFORE you start to "attack and/or insult" a
> person who has posted a question???
>
Yes. But then I come to my senses and say the right thing.
> For all you know there could have been a VERY good reason why they
choose to
> purchase those two birds at that particular time.
>
Reasons have little to do with abilities or knowing what you'll be getting
yourself into.
> DC
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> >
> >
> Birds do *not* kniow it is bad to chew wallpaper. Birds need to chew and
> your punishing them for doing what comes naturally is unkind.
He turns off the friggin lights. Oooh, he should be ashamed of himself and
turn himself in to the local law enforcement agency for animal cruelty.
--
Steve
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| Steve |
"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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> Anangrymouse,
>
> IF ya don't mind my asking, what prompted you to purchase that
particular
> pair of lovebirds, and what is your past experience with lovebirds and/or
> parrots in general?
>
> DC
Two days after the initial post and after responding to the thread seven
times during those days, you decide to ask this.
Obviously your priorities are to first argue as much as possible then try to
sound as if you give a ****.
That's nice.
--
Steve
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| Mamabird |
"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve" <mister(yathatsme)jynx@tohmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8f7c2acad0c2c4f5a3824652206a7925@news.teranews.com...
> | <snip>
> | "Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
> | news:n1uxb.142086$ri.20008686@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> | > Do you always jump to conclusions about people and what they are
and
> aren't capable of???
> |
> | No. But often time I do. Especially when people buy things when they
have no
> idea what they are buying or how to deal with it.
>
> Ok, so which is it??? Either you do, or you don't? From your
response "But
> often time I do" it sounds as if you do make it a habit to jump to
conclusions
> about people. . .And again what makes you so cocksure that this person
had no
> idea as to what they were buying/getting into??? Have you ever
considered
> asking constructive questions BEFORE you start to "attack and/or insult"
a
> person who has posted a question???
>
> For all you know there could have been a VERY good reason why they
choose to
> purchase those two birds at that particular time.
Here's the first sentence of the OP's post. It doesn't sound to me like
they had a VERY good reason... more like they're regretting their purchase
and, as 'Steve' said, they have no idea how to deal with it.
"I bought a pair of red faced love birds in a pet store. Big mistake. They
were not hand raised."
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| "Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
| news:ubLxb.301952$pT1.65148@twister.nyc.rr.com...
| >
| > "Steve" <mister(yathatsme)jynx@tohmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:465c023dc8034b0c9909358fada12ac8@news.teranews.com...
| > |
| > | "S G" <familyjpgs@webtv.net> wrote in message
| > | news:28508-3FC68449-248@storefull-2334.public.lawson.webtv.net...
| > | > I'm usually just a 'Lurker' but I had to to say "BRAVO" Steve [DC]! That
is the very reason I don't post at any of these places, you get treated like
your [you're] stupid and are not capable of taking care of your birds from
people that do not even know you!
| > | >
| > |
| > | Or is it because you lack confidence in your abilities because you know
that you are nothing but a moron?
| >
| > No, more likely than not it's because they have come to know that the
"know it all element" such as yourself will find fault with EVERY little thing
that they ask or try to say. And they just don't want to have to put up with
"your" BS.
| >
| > DC
|
| Got any facts to back that up?
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Steve,
Yeah, the way that you've been responding to most if not all of these
various posts.
DC
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| "Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
| news:yCLxb.302147$pT1.15081@twister.nyc.rr.com...
| >
| > Hmm, "Find a new home for them." DOESN'T sound like a "suggestion" it
sounds as IF you are flat out telling them to find a new home for their birds.
| >
|
| Read it any way you want.
| They'll end up in a different home anyway. Most birds do, especially when
they are not what the buyer expected.
You don't know that for sure.
|
| > | >
| > | > Do you always jump to conclusions about people and what they are and
aren't capable of???
| > |
| > | No. But often time I do. Especially when people buy things when they
have no idea what they are buying or how to deal with it.
| >
| > Ok, so which is it??? Either you do, or you don't?
|
|
| "Do you always...?"
| Always? No.
| Less than always / more than never? Yes.
| Not that difficult of a concept. It seems you can't even comprehend your own
questions.
It sounds as if you do more often then not. Guess ya never heard the old
saying about "assuming" things. . .
|
| > From your response "But often time I do" it sounds as if you do make it a
habit to jump to conclusions about people. . .
|
| Yep, it sure does look that way.
| But why bother accusing me of something I just admitted? What purpose does
that serve?
|
| > And again what makes you so cocksure that this person had no idea as to what
they were buying/getting into???
|
| He bought the things several months ago and is only now asking questions. If
he thought he could tame the birds he was wrong. If he had known what he was
getting into, he wouldn't have waited so long to ask for the help he needs.
Sorry, but I hardly consider 3 months to be "several" months ago. . .And he
may only just now be asking questions on-line. . .
|
| > Have you ever considered asking constructive questions BEFORE you start to
"attack and/or insult" a person who has posted a question???
| >
|
| Yes. But then I come to my senses and say the right thing.
Oh, so the "right" thing to say/do is to attack/insult a person instead of
asking constructive questions in order to obtain more information???
|
| > For all you know there could have been a VERY good reason why they
choose to purchase those two birds at that particular time.
| >
|
| Reasons have little to do with abilities or knowing what you'll be getting
yourself into.
Oh, so IF they were somewhere, where they aren't treated with love, care and
respect it is better to leave them there???
DC
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| "Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
| news:zCLxb.302148$pT1.207471@twister.nyc.rr.com...
| > Anangrymouse,
| >
| > IF ya don't mind my asking, what prompted you to purchase that
particular pair of lovebirds, and what is your past experience with lovebirds
and/or parrots in general?
| >
| > DC
|
| Two days after the initial post and after responding to the thread seven times
during those days, you decide to ask this. Obviously your priorities are to
first argue as much as possible then try to sound as if you give a ****. That's
nice.
No, more like I've gotten tired of your contemptuous treatment of this
person and seeing that noone else is actually asking constructive questions. . .
DC
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How old are you Steve? And does your mommy know your playing on the
puter?
Your about the rudest little bast**d I've seen post in quite a while.
I did not say anything about you...just that I did not agree with you,
get over it...
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| Steve |
"0 0" <familyjpgs@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> How old are you Steve? And does your mommy know your playing on the
> puter?
37 and I don't know how my Mommy could possibly know I'm "playing" on the
'puter unless she's been trying to call me.
> Your about the rudest little bast**d I've seen post in quite a while.
>
Thanks, I appreciate the compliment. I guess you ain't ever been to
rec.pets.birds in the last half dozen or so years.
> I did not say anything about you...just that I did not agree with you,
> get over it...
>
Where? what? when? Nevermind, I don't know nor care what you are talking
about.
Take your own advice and get over it.
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| Steve |
"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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> |
> | Read it any way you want.
> | They'll end up in a different home anyway. Most birds do, especially
when
> they are not what the buyer expected.
>
> You don't know that for sure.
That's right. The odds are equally good that they will die very young due
mostly to a bad diet.
>
> |
> | > | >
> | > | > Do you always jump to conclusions about people and what they
are and
> aren't capable of???
> | > |
> | > | No. But often time I do. Especially when people buy things when
they
> have no idea what they are buying or how to deal with it.
> | >
> | > Ok, so which is it??? Either you do, or you don't?
> |
> |
> | "Do you always...?"
> | Always? No.
> | Less than always / more than never? Yes.
> | Not that difficult of a concept. It seems you can't even comprehend
your own
> questions.
>
> It sounds as if you do more often then not. Guess ya never heard the
old
> saying about "assuming" things. . .
You're just full of old sayings - among other things.
> |
> | He bought the things several months ago and is only now asking
questions. If
> he thought he could tame the birds he was wrong. If he had known what he
was
> getting into, he wouldn't have waited so long to ask for the help he
needs.
>
> Sorry, but I hardly consider 3 months to be "several" months ago. .
..And he
> may only just now be asking questions on-line. . .
So. He is still as clueless as he was when he bought the things.
Zero progress in three months says it all.
>
> |
> | > Have you ever considered asking constructive questions BEFORE you
start to
> "attack and/or insult" a person who has posted a question???
> | >
> |
> | Yes. But then I come to my senses and say the right thing.
>
> Oh, so the "right" thing to say/do is to attack/insult a person
instead of
> asking constructive questions in order to obtain more information???
Yep, but my insults aren't really insulting, so what do you care?
>
> |
> | > For all you know there could have been a VERY good reason why they
> choose to purchase those two birds at that particular time.
> | >
> |
> | Reasons have little to do with abilities or knowing what you'll be
getting
> yourself into.
>
> Oh, so IF they were somewhere, where they aren't treated with love,
care and
> respect it is better to leave them there???
>
> DC
That's not at all what I said. Your comprehension skills really f ckin'
suck.
Let's say that's exactly what happened. What do his inabilities and
ignorance of what he's getting into have to do with where the birds came
from?
Besides all that, anyone who buys a bird from someone who kept the bird in
perfectly normal but less than ideal conditions comes here and gloats about
the "rescue" they performed.
--
Steve
and just why do you think that all of this ******* **** below is necessary
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"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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>
> | >
> | > No, more likely than not it's because they have come to know that
the
> "know it all element" such as yourself will find fault with EVERY little
thing
> that they ask or try to say. And they just don't want to have to put up
with
> "your" BS.
> | >
> | > DC
> |
> | Got any facts to back that up?
> |
> | --
> Steve,
>
> Yeah, the way that you've been responding to most if not all of these
> various posts.
>
> DC
How is the way I've been responding a fact that indicates how people think?
--
Steve
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| Steve |
"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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> |
> | Two days after the initial post and after responding to the thread seven
times
> during those days, you decide to ask this. Obviously your priorities are
to
> first argue as much as possible then try to sound as if you give a ****.
That's
> nice.
>
> No, more like I've gotten tired of your contemptuous treatment of this
> person and seeing that noone else is actually asking constructive
questions. . .
>
> DC
I had only one response to the original poster.
Here are both things that I said in that reply:
1"Find a new home for them."
A mere suggestion.
2"While I don't believe that these birds are untamable, I do not believe
that you are capable of what it would take to do the job."
Just my opinion. There is a world of difference between saying that I don't
think he can and saying that he can't.
There was no contempt. The contempt came later and it was for you.
People aren't asking questions because you turned this into a circus act.
If you'd have just let me say what I had to say and leave it at that, this
whole thread could have been full of useful advice from the people who can
ignore me. I know that many people here could give the guy some of the
information that he's asking for, but they tend to stay away when the ****
starts flying. NOTHING that you've said has been of any use to anyone.
--
Steve
Why is it that no matter how many times I tell people to just ignore me,
they just can't do it?
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| oldmolly |
"Wheeler" <rivercst@pacifier.com> wrote in message
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> Teils are easy, I do have a few wild caught (older) Amanzons and Senegals
I
> would love to see some brave soul make, "tame and friendly". I will
supply
> iodine and bandaids.........
>
Hmm. Last year I purchased a pair of wild caught orange winged amazons from
someone who had posted here with her sorry tale. The hen of the pair is very
calm, and will even take food from my hands. I have no doubt that she would
tame down nicely if I had her indoors as a pet.
I think it entirely depends on several things, not least the age when it
was caught.
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| oldmolly |
"Steve" <mister(yathatsme)jynx@tohmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:ZDlxb.169$PR.925@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net...
> >
> > >
> > >
> > Birds do *not* kniow it is bad to chew wallpaper. Birds need to chew
and
> > your punishing them for doing what comes naturally is unkind.
>
> He turns off the friggin lights. Oooh, he should be ashamed of himself
and
> turn himself in to the local law enforcement agency for animal cruelty.
Sometimes I wish someone would turn off *your* lights jynx mate.
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| oldmolly |
"Steve" <mister(yathatsme)jynx@tohmail.com> wrote in message
news:097a86935ed5863ef9377fc13cd621b7@news.teranews.com...
> Why is it that no matter how many times I tell people to just ignore me,
> they just can't do it?
Is there a prize if I get the correct answer?
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| Wheeler |
LOL, but my dear the Orange Wings are often mello,,,,I do have a wild caught
hen as well she would love to meet the bird tamer, VBG.
Bob W
--
Check out our web site,
A few new features and new pictures.
http://www.onemorebird.com/
"oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Wheeler" <rivercst@pacifier.com> wrote in message
> news:vsf1p6mn5cir8d@corp.supernews.com...
> > Teils are easy, I do have a few wild caught (older) Amanzons and
Senegals
> I
> > would love to see some brave soul make, "tame and friendly". I will
> supply
> > iodine and bandaids.........
> >
> Hmm. Last year I purchased a pair of wild caught orange winged amazons
from
> someone who had posted here with her sorry tale. The hen of the pair is
very
> calm, and will even take food from my hands. I have no doubt that she
would
> tame down nicely if I had her indoors as a pet.
> I think it entirely depends on several things, not least the age when it
> was caught.
>
>
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| How is the way I've been responding a fact that indicates how people think?
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| --
Steve,
Your posts are self-evident.
DC
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"Don't expect anything of
them, simply enjoy them for the intelligent living things they are. In time,
they might become less afraid of you."
Very well put !!
I'm raising 13 Fischers lovebirds (half hand fed) and all I expect is that
they are healthy and happy. Any one who expects tricks, kisses, etc. (or
"training" them) should not keep pets ... PERIOD!
"oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "anangrymouse" <angrymouse@mousehole.org> wrote in message
> news:qpadnfrdxKqS11ii4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> > I bought a pair of red faced love birds in a pet store. Big mistake.
They
> > were not hand raised.
> >
> > They are terrified of my hands. Seems like they were grabbed too much
> > before I got them.
> > If I put my hands anywhere near them, they start screaming and flapping
> > violently around in terror.
> > So when I talk to them I put my hands in my pockets or behind my back.
> >
> > The feathers of their wings were trimmed so at first they could not fly
> well
> > and I let them out
> > so they could sit on top of the cage which I placed by a large mirror..
> > They totalled the lamp
> > shade while they were toasting their bottoms on the light bulb. (Why do
> all
> > birds total lampshades?)
> >
> > They are not as afraid of me when they are out of the cage, but when I
go
> to
> > talk to them,
> > they usually climb down the back of the cage so the bars are between me
> and
> > them.
> >
> > They started talking almost right away. They expect to be let out of
the
> > cage when I come home.
> > They scream if they don't like the menu. They have done many things
which
> > make it clear they
> > understand what I want them to do. They understand that it is bad to
chew
> > wallpaper off the
> > wall and they will be punished by my shutting off the lights and making
> them
> > go in the cage. They
> > know what go in the cage means. However, they are just not friendly and
> > very scary.
> >
> > I have had them about 3 months. They have grown much larger so they
must
> > have been
> > very young when I got them.
> >
> > They are running around on top of the cage upstairs right now,
twittering
> > "pretty birdie,"
> > jumping off and on the frame of the totalled lampshade, looking in the
> > mirror and chewing on a millet branch.
> >
> > How do I tame them?
> >
> >
> Birds do *not* kniow it is bad to chew wallpaper. Birds need to chew and
> your punishing them for doing what comes naturally is unkind.You should be
> ensuring that they are unable to get into situations which are dangerous
for
> them. Wallpaper paste is toxix, the lamp bulb could have burned them, they
> may have chewed the flex.
> You bought, on impulse, a pair of aviary birds. You appear to have done
> little or no research into bird care and lovebirds. Take it from me, you
> will never tame them. I don't believe that they talk either, sorry.This
> statement in particular:
>
> "They have done many things which
> make it clear they
> understand what I want them to do."
>
> Makes me wonder why on earth you got these birds. It appears as though
you
> simply want them so that they can perform tricks, or talk, or keep you
> amused in some way . I doubt very much that 2 scared, probably not hand
> reared lovebirds, would talk and somehow 'know' what you want them to do.
> (whatever *that* may be).
> I suggest you rethink the situation, do an awful lot of reading about how
> to care for your birds, and lovebirds in general. Don't expect anything of
> them, simply enjoy them for the intelligent living things they are. In
time,
> they might become less afraid of you. In the meantime, it is your duty to
> care for them and to ensure that they cannot get into a situation which
> might harm them.
>
>
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| Guido |
Peeple, peeple !!!
We're discussing LOVEbirds !!!!
Where is the LOVE !!!!
"anangrymouse" <angrymouse@mousehole.org> wrote in message
news:qpadnfrdxKqS11ii4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> I bought a pair of red faced love birds in a pet store. Big mistake. They
> were not hand raised.
>
> They are terrified of my hands. Seems like they were grabbed too much
> before I got them.
> If I put my hands anywhere near them, they start screaming and flapping
> violently around in terror.
> So when I talk to them I put my hands in my pockets or behind my back.
>
> The feathers of their wings were trimmed so at first they could not fly
well
> and I let them out
> so they could sit on top of the cage which I placed by a large mirror..
> They totalled the lamp
> shade while they were toasting their bottoms on the light bulb. (Why do
all
> birds total lampshades?)
>
> They are not as afraid of me when they are out of the cage, but when I go
to
> talk to them,
> they usually climb down the back of the cage so the bars are between me
and
> them.
>
> They started talking almost right away. They expect to be let out of the
> cage when I come home.
> They scream if they don't like the menu. They have done many things which
> make it clear they
> understand what I want them to do. They understand that it is bad to chew
> wallpaper off the
> wall and they will be punished by my shutting off the lights and making
them
> go in the cage. They
> know what go in the cage means. However, they are just not friendly and
> very scary.
>
> I have had them about 3 months. They have grown much larger so they must
> have been
> very young when I got them.
>
> They are running around on top of the cage upstairs right now, twittering
> "pretty birdie,"
> jumping off and on the frame of the totalled lampshade, looking in the
> mirror and chewing on a millet branch.
>
> How do I tame them?
>
>
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| oldmolly |
"Guido" <somebody@msn.invalid> wrote in message
news:bqeg99$iio$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
> "Don't expect anything of
> them, simply enjoy them for the intelligent living things they are. In
time,
> they might become less afraid of you."
>
> Very well put !!
>
> I'm raising 13 Fischers lovebirds (half hand fed) and all I expect is
that
> they are healthy and happy. Any one who expects tricks, kisses, etc. (or
> "training" them) should not keep pets ... PERIOD!
>
People who *expect* anything from any pet are invariably disappointed.
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| oldmolly |
"Guido" <somebody@msn.invalid> wrote in message
news:bqegek$j1s$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
> Peeple, peeple !!!
> We're discussing LOVEbirds !!!!
>
> Where is the LOVE !!!!
>
We simply love to argue the toss lol.
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