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NaDeana
Has anyone here ever order an aviary cage from Wingz, Avian Products??

www.kwcages.com

I am looking for whether they are reputable or not, what the service was
like ect... I got screwed over a while ago by a cage co. and I have learned
my lesson. Research saves money!

I am thinking of ordering an aviary cage (indoor) 6 x 8 x 6 for my little
munchkins ( 8 tiels) that have made quick work of the window sill, moldings,
drywall, lino flooring (they chewed a hole right in the middle of the room!)
and anything else their little beaks can chew in their room. I'm not
complaining, but my fiance is fed up with fixing what they destroy. Right
now they are housed in an 8 x 10 room and are free to roam so it won't be
that big of a change and they can climb all of the avairy walls. I would
like to have them in something that they can't destroy once we move into our
new house.

Thanks in advance.
NaDeana


Ian
Hi NaDeana
Even though I am in the UK, I'd be very loathe allowing any Bird having
un-supervised access to a normal room.
As you mentioned they have chewed window sills, mouldings, drywall, lino etc
all the mouldings and sills would probably have some type of wood
preservative in, and the drywall and lino would almost certainly have
un-preferred ingredients in. So many things can literally poison Birds,
never mind the obvious pitfalls like cables, moulded light fittings etc and
almost any painted surfaces.
I wouldn't worry so much immediately about what they can destroy as what
could destroy them. I met somebody only yesterday at the Vets, who had lost
3 birds out of 30+ to them having unlimited access to a room, chewing paint
was actually the culprit, and he only had them in there for 2 days whilst
building a new outside aviary for them.
Maybe you should ask you're Fiancé nicely if he'd consider building them
something temporary (make sure any timber is untreated!!) until you actually
buy one, it could be a lot safer for them even in the short term. Some tree
cuttings would be a good quickstop to them chewing all and sundry, but
please check what type of trees are suitable and make sure the branches are
free of leaves etc and well washed twice or even three times before letting
them loose on them. Good luck in your search for the indoor cage though.
Ian

"NaDeana" <nadeana@GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:T30hb.50115$pl3.28937@pd7tw3no...
> Has anyone here ever order an aviary cage from Wingz, Avian Products??
>
> www.kwcages.com
>
> I am looking for whether they are reputable or not, what the service was
> like ect... I got screwed over a while ago by a cage co. and I have

learned
> my lesson. Research saves money!
>
> I am thinking of ordering an aviary cage (indoor) 6 x 8 x 6 for my little
> munchkins ( 8 tiels) that have made quick work of the window sill,

moldings,
> drywall, lino flooring (they chewed a hole right in the middle of the

room!)
> and anything else their little beaks can chew in their room. I'm not
> complaining, but my fiance is fed up with fixing what they destroy. Right
> now they are housed in an 8 x 10 room and are free to roam so it won't be
> that big of a change and they can climb all of the avairy walls. I would
> like to have them in something that they can't destroy once we move into

our
> new house.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> NaDeana
>
>



NaDeana
Trust me, I am well aware. My cockatiels are my life. The moldings are fine
for them to chew, they are not treated. There is nothing in the room with
them other than what I have put in there for them. It is a bird room. No
wires, they do not chew paint and the paint that is on the walls is
non-toxic anyway. There is one area where there was only drywall and they
ate a hole in it. When it was noticed, it was taken care of. They are
absolutely fine in their room alone. They have lived in there for over a
year and they are healthy, 100%. Thank you for your advice, but I am not a
newcomer to this ng, and to be frank, I know my stuff when it comes to
cockatiels. :)



"Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi NaDeana
> Even though I am in the UK, I'd be very loathe allowing any Bird having
> un-supervised access to a normal room.
> As you mentioned they have chewed window sills, mouldings, drywall, lino

etc
> all the mouldings and sills would probably have some type of wood
> preservative in, and the drywall and lino would almost certainly have
> un-preferred ingredients in. So many things can literally poison Birds,
> never mind the obvious pitfalls like cables, moulded light fittings etc

and
> almost any painted surfaces.
> I wouldn't worry so much immediately about what they can destroy as what
> could destroy them. I met somebody only yesterday at the Vets, who had

lost
> 3 birds out of 30+ to them having unlimited access to a room, chewing

paint
> was actually the culprit, and he only had them in there for 2 days whilst
> building a new outside aviary for them.
> Maybe you should ask you're Fiancé nicely if he'd consider building them
> something temporary (make sure any timber is untreated!!) until you

actually
> buy one, it could be a lot safer for them even in the short term. Some

tree
> cuttings would be a good quickstop to them chewing all and sundry, but
> please check what type of trees are suitable and make sure the branches

are
> free of leaves etc and well washed twice or even three times before

letting
> them loose on them. Good luck in your search for the indoor cage though.
> Ian
>
> "NaDeana" <nadeana@GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:T30hb.50115$pl3.28937@pd7tw3no...
> > Has anyone here ever order an aviary cage from Wingz, Avian Products??
> >
> > www.kwcages.com
> >
> > I am looking for whether they are reputable or not, what the service was
> > like ect... I got screwed over a while ago by a cage co. and I have

> learned
> > my lesson. Research saves money!
> >
> > I am thinking of ordering an aviary cage (indoor) 6 x 8 x 6 for my

little
> > munchkins ( 8 tiels) that have made quick work of the window sill,

> moldings,
> > drywall, lino flooring (they chewed a hole right in the middle of the

> room!)
> > and anything else their little beaks can chew in their room. I'm not
> > complaining, but my fiance is fed up with fixing what they destroy.

Right
> > now they are housed in an 8 x 10 room and are free to roam so it won't

be
> > that big of a change and they can climb all of the avairy walls. I would
> > like to have them in something that they can't destroy once we move into

> our
> > new house.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > NaDeana
> >
> >

>
>



Digital_Cowboy

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Ian,

I'd even go as far as baking any tree branches in an oven at, at least 350
degrees (176.6667 Celsius) for at least a half an hour. I would also say that
it is more important to make sure that there are no poisons, fungus, bacteria,
or the like on the branches then leaves. As well as making sure that the
branches are not infested with any kind of insect.

Which IF one has baked the branches in the oven as above I would have to
think that all but those insects that have traits like the "common" cockroach
would be killed.

Herman
"Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:mB2hb.1045$Ec6.893@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
| Hi NaDeana
| Even though I am in the UK, I'd be very loathe allowing any Bird having
| un-supervised access to a normal room.
| As you mentioned they have chewed window sills, mouldings, drywall, lino etc
| all the mouldings and sills would probably have some type of wood
| preservative in, and the drywall and lino would almost certainly have
| un-preferred ingredients in. So many things can literally poison Birds,
| never mind the obvious pitfalls like cables, moulded light fittings etc and
| almost any painted surfaces.
| I wouldn't worry so much immediately about what they can destroy as what
| could destroy them. I met somebody only yesterday at the Vets, who had lost
| 3 birds out of 30+ to them having unlimited access to a room, chewing paint
| was actually the culprit, and he only had them in there for 2 days whilst
| building a new outside aviary for them.
| Maybe you should ask you're Fiancé nicely if he'd consider building them
| something temporary (make sure any timber is untreated!!) until you actually
| buy one, it could be a lot safer for them even in the short term. Some tree
| cuttings would be a good quickstop to them chewing all and sundry, but
| please check what type of trees are suitable and make sure the branches are
| free of leaves etc and well washed twice or even three times before letting
| them loose on them. Good luck in your search for the indoor cage though.
| Ian
|
| "NaDeana" <nadeana@GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote in message
| news:T30hb.50115$pl3.28937@pd7tw3no...
| > Has anyone here ever order an aviary cage from Wingz, Avian Products??
| >
| > www.kwcages.com
| >
| > I am looking for whether they are reputable or not, what the service was
| > like ect... I got screwed over a while ago by a cage co. and I have
| learned
| > my lesson. Research saves money!
| >
| > I am thinking of ordering an aviary cage (indoor) 6 x 8 x 6 for my little
| > munchkins ( 8 tiels) that have made quick work of the window sill,
| moldings,
| > drywall, lino flooring (they chewed a hole right in the middle of the
| room!)
| > and anything else their little beaks can chew in their room. I'm not
| > complaining, but my fiance is fed up with fixing what they destroy. Right
| > now they are housed in an 8 x 10 room and are free to roam so it won't be
| > that big of a change and they can climb all of the avairy walls. I would
| > like to have them in something that they can't destroy once we move into
| our
| > new house.
| >
| > Thanks in advance.
| > NaDeana
| >
| >
|
|
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NaDeana
Nope, some organisms, like the eggs of roundworms, resist heat. Nothing is
full proof.


"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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> Ian,
>
> I'd even go as far as baking any tree branches in an oven at, at least

350
> degrees (176.6667 Celsius) for at least a half an hour. I would also say

that
> it is more important to make sure that there are no poisons, fungus,

bacteria,
> or the like on the branches then leaves. As well as making sure that the
> branches are not infested with any kind of insect.
>
> Which IF one has baked the branches in the oven as above I would have

to
> think that all but those insects that have traits like the "common"

cockroach
> would be killed.
>
> Herman
> "Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:mB2hb.1045$Ec6.893@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> | Hi NaDeana
> | Even though I am in the UK, I'd be very loathe allowing any Bird having
> | un-supervised access to a normal room.
> | As you mentioned they have chewed window sills, mouldings, drywall, lino

etc
> | all the mouldings and sills would probably have some type of wood
> | preservative in, and the drywall and lino would almost certainly have
> | un-preferred ingredients in. So many things can literally poison Birds,
> | never mind the obvious pitfalls like cables, moulded light fittings etc

and
> | almost any painted surfaces.
> | I wouldn't worry so much immediately about what they can destroy as what
> | could destroy them. I met somebody only yesterday at the Vets, who had

lost
> | 3 birds out of 30+ to them having unlimited access to a room, chewing

paint
> | was actually the culprit, and he only had them in there for 2 days

whilst
> | building a new outside aviary for them.
> | Maybe you should ask you're Fiancé nicely if he'd consider building them
> | something temporary (make sure any timber is untreated!!) until you

actually
> | buy one, it could be a lot safer for them even in the short term. Some

tree
> | cuttings would be a good quickstop to them chewing all and sundry, but
> | please check what type of trees are suitable and make sure the branches

are
> | free of leaves etc and well washed twice or even three times before

letting
> | them loose on them. Good luck in your search for the indoor cage though.
> | Ian
> |
> | "NaDeana" <nadeana@GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote in message
> | news:T30hb.50115$pl3.28937@pd7tw3no...
> | > Has anyone here ever order an aviary cage from Wingz, Avian Products??
> | >
> | > www.kwcages.com
> | >
> | > I am looking for whether they are reputable or not, what the service

was
> | > like ect... I got screwed over a while ago by a cage co. and I have
> | learned
> | > my lesson. Research saves money!
> | >
> | > I am thinking of ordering an aviary cage (indoor) 6 x 8 x 6 for my

little
> | > munchkins ( 8 tiels) that have made quick work of the window sill,
> | moldings,
> | > drywall, lino flooring (they chewed a hole right in the middle of the
> | room!)
> | > and anything else their little beaks can chew in their room. I'm not
> | > complaining, but my fiance is fed up with fixing what they destroy.

Right
> | > now they are housed in an 8 x 10 room and are free to roam so it won't

be
> | > that big of a change and they can climb all of the avairy walls. I

would
> | > like to have them in something that they can't destroy once we move

into
> | our
> | > new house.
> | >
> | > Thanks in advance.
> | > NaDeana
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
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Ian
sorry NaDeana, I wasn't trying to preach to the converted, just read your
post and was alarmed :-)
Good luck in your cage search again
Ian
"NaDeana" <nadeana@GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:tF3hb.51197$pl3.34963@pd7tw3no...
> Trust me, I am well aware. My cockatiels are my life. The moldings are

fine
> for them to chew, they are not treated. There is nothing in the room with
> them other than what I have put in there for them. It is a bird room. No
> wires, they do not chew paint and the paint that is on the walls is
> non-toxic anyway. There is one area where there was only drywall and they
> ate a hole in it. When it was noticed, it was taken care of. They are
> absolutely fine in their room alone. They have lived in there for over a
> year and they are healthy, 100%. Thank you for your advice, but I am not a
> newcomer to this ng, and to be frank, I know my stuff when it comes to
> cockatiels. :)
>
>
>
> "Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:mB2hb.1045$Ec6.893@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Hi NaDeana
> > Even though I am in the UK, I'd be very loathe allowing any Bird having
> > un-supervised access to a normal room.
> > As you mentioned they have chewed window sills, mouldings, drywall, lino

> etc
> > all the mouldings and sills would probably have some type of wood
> > preservative in, and the drywall and lino would almost certainly have
> > un-preferred ingredients in. So many things can literally poison Birds,
> > never mind the obvious pitfalls like cables, moulded light fittings etc

> and
> > almost any painted surfaces.
> > I wouldn't worry so much immediately about what they can destroy as what
> > could destroy them. I met somebody only yesterday at the Vets, who had

> lost
> > 3 birds out of 30+ to them having unlimited access to a room, chewing

> paint
> > was actually the culprit, and he only had them in there for 2 days

whilst
> > building a new outside aviary for them.
> > Maybe you should ask you're Fiancé nicely if he'd consider building them
> > something temporary (make sure any timber is untreated!!) until you

> actually
> > buy one, it could be a lot safer for them even in the short term. Some

> tree
> > cuttings would be a good quickstop to them chewing all and sundry, but
> > please check what type of trees are suitable and make sure the branches

> are
> > free of leaves etc and well washed twice or even three times before

> letting
> > them loose on them. Good luck in your search for the indoor cage though.
> > Ian
> >
> > "NaDeana" <nadeana@GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:T30hb.50115$pl3.28937@pd7tw3no...
> > > Has anyone here ever order an aviary cage from Wingz, Avian Products??
> > >
> > > www.kwcages.com
> > >
> > > I am looking for whether they are reputable or not, what the service

was
> > > like ect... I got screwed over a while ago by a cage co. and I have

> > learned
> > > my lesson. Research saves money!
> > >
> > > I am thinking of ordering an aviary cage (indoor) 6 x 8 x 6 for my

> little
> > > munchkins ( 8 tiels) that have made quick work of the window sill,

> > moldings,
> > > drywall, lino flooring (they chewed a hole right in the middle of the

> > room!)
> > > and anything else their little beaks can chew in their room. I'm not
> > > complaining, but my fiance is fed up with fixing what they destroy.

> Right
> > > now they are housed in an 8 x 10 room and are free to roam so it won't

> be
> > > that big of a change and they can climb all of the avairy walls. I

would
> > > like to have them in something that they can't destroy once we move

into
> > our
> > > new house.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > > NaDeana
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



Steve

"NaDeana" <nadeana@GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:pn5hb.51387$6C4.10956@pd7tw1no...
> Nope, some organisms, like the eggs of roundworms, resist heat. Nothing is
> full proof.
>


or fool proof.


--
* Steve *


tiels_r_cool

"NaDeana" <nadeana@GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:T30hb.50115$pl3.28937@pd7tw3no...
> Has anyone here ever order an aviary cage from Wingz, Avian Products??
>
> www.kwcages.com
>
> I am looking for whether they are reputable or not, what the service was
> like ect... I got screwed over a while ago by a cage co. and I have

learned
> my lesson. Research saves money!
>
> I am thinking of ordering an aviary cage (indoor) 6 x 8 x 6 for my little
> munchkins ( 8 tiels) that have made quick work of the window sill,

moldings,
> drywall, lino flooring (they chewed a hole right in the middle of the

room!)
> and anything else their little beaks can chew in their room. I'm not
> complaining, but my fiance is fed up with fixing what they destroy. Right
> now they are housed in an 8 x 10 room and are free to roam so it won't be
> that big of a change and they can climb all of the avairy walls. I would
> like to have them in something that they can't destroy once we move into

our
> new house.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> NaDeana
>
>


You need toys, toys toys toys toys toys toys, I have so many toys and things
for them to chew my moldings are fine and everything else is fine, toys and
chewy toys and sisal rope and lots of hemp rope do the trick for me. My
babies are really spoiled.


NaDeana
Yeah, that's what I meant!

"Steve" <mynameis_mj@notasecret.com> wrote in message
news:48940ffb859388cb6e0ffea700f4590d@news.meganetnews.com...
>
> "NaDeana" <nadeana@GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:pn5hb.51387$6C4.10956@pd7tw1no...
> > Nope, some organisms, like the eggs of roundworms, resist heat. Nothing

is
> > full proof.
> >

>
> or fool proof.
>
>
> --
> * Steve *
>
>



NaDeana
I have toys toys toys. I make my own, they have too many I think.

"tiels_r_cool" <erector@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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>
> "NaDeana" <nadeana@GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:T30hb.50115$pl3.28937@pd7tw3no...
> > Has anyone here ever order an aviary cage from Wingz, Avian Products??
> >
> > www.kwcages.com
> >
> > I am looking for whether they are reputable or not, what the service was
> > like ect... I got screwed over a while ago by a cage co. and I have

> learned
> > my lesson. Research saves money!
> >
> > I am thinking of ordering an aviary cage (indoor) 6 x 8 x 6 for my

little
> > munchkins ( 8 tiels) that have made quick work of the window sill,

> moldings,
> > drywall, lino flooring (they chewed a hole right in the middle of the

> room!)
> > and anything else their little beaks can chew in their room. I'm not
> > complaining, but my fiance is fed up with fixing what they destroy.

Right
> > now they are housed in an 8 x 10 room and are free to roam so it won't

be
> > that big of a change and they can climb all of the avairy walls. I would
> > like to have them in something that they can't destroy once we move into

> our
> > new house.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > NaDeana
> >
> >

>
> You need toys, toys toys toys toys toys toys, I have so many toys and

things
> for them to chew my moldings are fine and everything else is fine, toys

and
> chewy toys and sisal rope and lots of hemp rope do the trick for me. My
> babies are really spoiled.
>
>



mdfloyd
There are lots of cages and toys and other neat stuff for sale at
www.scritches.com -- good deals, too!

_________________________
www.scritches.com
everything but the bird
_________________________

"NaDeana" <nadeana@GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote in message news:<T30hb.50115$pl3.28937@pd7tw3no>...
> Has anyone here ever order an aviary cage from Wingz, Avian Products??
>
> www.kwcages.com
>
> I am looking for whether they are reputable or not, what the service was
> like ect... I got screwed over a while ago by a cage co. and I have learned
> my lesson. Research saves money!
>
> I am thinking of ordering an aviary cage (indoor) 6 x 8 x 6 for my little
> munchkins ( 8 tiels) that have made quick work of the window sill, moldings,
> drywall, lino flooring (they chewed a hole right in the middle of the room!)
> and anything else their little beaks can chew in their room. I'm not
> complaining, but my fiance is fed up with fixing what they destroy. Right
> now they are housed in an 8 x 10 room and are free to roam so it won't be
> that big of a change and they can climb all of the avairy walls. I would
> like to have them in something that they can't destroy once we move into our
> new house.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> NaDeana

NaDeana
Bad mdfloyd, BAD! You can't show me those websites! I feel the urge to buy
birdie stuff....no resist! RESIST!


"mdfloyd" <mdfloyd@qx.net> wrote in message
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> There are lots of cages and toys and other neat stuff for sale at
> www.scritches.com -- good deals, too!
>
> _________________________
> www.scritches.com
> everything but the bird
> _________________________
>
> "NaDeana" <nadeana@GOTTATAKETHISOUTshaw.ca> wrote in message

news:<T30hb.50115$pl3.28937@pd7tw3no>...
> > Has anyone here ever order an aviary cage from Wingz, Avian Products??
> >
> > www.kwcages.com
> >
> > I am looking for whether they are reputable or not, what the service was
> > like ect... I got screwed over a while ago by a cage co. and I have

learned
> > my lesson. Research saves money!
> >
> > I am thinking of ordering an aviary cage (indoor) 6 x 8 x 6 for my

little
> > munchkins ( 8 tiels) that have made quick work of the window sill,

moldings,
> > drywall, lino flooring (they chewed a hole right in the middle of the

room!)
> > and anything else their little beaks can chew in their room. I'm not
> > complaining, but my fiance is fed up with fixing what they destroy.

Right
> > now they are housed in an 8 x 10 room and are free to roam so it won't

be
> > that big of a change and they can climb all of the avairy walls. I would
> > like to have them in something that they can't destroy once we move into

our
> > new house.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > NaDeana



Ian
Hi
Not wanting to appear a spoilsport/partypooper or anything, and not claiming
to be an Avian Expert by any means. Interesting site, but ..... and a BIG
but, although lots of the 'Toys' claim to be bird safe, after looking at
just a few I know there is no way on this earth that Poppet (even still
recovering) would be safe with the majority of these toys.... any sort of
wool/leather strands would be down her throat in a flash (yes, I do know how
notorious Lovie's can be) but the toys with Plastic Beads on? Sorry, that is
a nightmare waiting to happen, she loves plastic and WILL chew through it
almost in an instant! :-(
Do your Birds chew through plastic this quick? I've seen/discovered her in
the past chew through speaker cable in such a short time, that by the time
I've got to her and taken her off she'd have been fried if it had been a
mains cable.
Still an interesting site with some very interesting stuff.
Ian


"mdfloyd" <mdfloyd@qx.net> wrote in message
news:cd1ac0f9.0310100412.5389f4c2@posting.google.com...
> There are lots of cages and toys and other neat stuff for sale at
> www.scritches.com -- good deals, too!
>
> _________________________
> www.scritches.com
> everything but the bird
> _________________________




Digital_Cowboy

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Ian,

My Neo is also a voracious chewer. He's chewed a hole into the insulation
on my hands-free kit for my cell phone. And I am sure that IF he had access to
a powercord I'd have one fried Lovebird. . .

Herman
"Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:meEhb.100$7n3.61@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
| Hi
| Not wanting to appear a spoilsport/partypooper or anything, and not claiming
| to be an Avian Expert by any means. Interesting site, but ..... and a BIG
| but, although lots of the 'Toys' claim to be bird safe, after looking at
| just a few I know there is no way on this earth that Poppet (even still
| recovering) would be safe with the majority of these toys.... any sort of
| wool/leather strands would be down her throat in a flash (yes, I do know how
| notorious Lovie's can be) but the toys with Plastic Beads on? Sorry, that is
| a nightmare waiting to happen, she loves plastic and WILL chew through it
| almost in an instant! :-(
| Do your Birds chew through plastic this quick? I've seen/discovered her in
| the past chew through speaker cable in such a short time, that by the time
| I've got to her and taken her off she'd have been fried if it had been a
| mains cable.
| Still an interesting site with some very interesting stuff.
| Ian
|
|
| "mdfloyd" <mdfloyd@qx.net> wrote in message
| news:cd1ac0f9.0310100412.5389f4c2@posting.google.com...
| > There are lots of cages and toys and other neat stuff for sale at
| > www.scritches.com -- good deals, too!
| >
| > _________________________
| > www.scritches.com
| > everything but the bird
| > _________________________
|
|
|
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Ian
Herman

I know exactly what you mean, Po-Po and Poppet use to regularly chew the
plastic curtain pole, curtains, lampshades, wooden picture frames(quickly
shoood away !) and virtually anything else they could get hold of and they
were only let out when we were there. Poppet is very very fond of seed
sticks, and even though they're only ever there for a day or two she
regularly chews at the plastic clip at the top ... she can only just reach
it so never manages much damage. I have also had her get a hold of my
thumbnail(long as I use to play bass guitar) and has managed to leave a hole
in it or even broken it sometimes and God help you if they get hold of
finger flesh, especially the flesh between you thumb and forefinger....
OUCH!! and we have the scars too.

"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:mFGhb.31514$pv6.10733@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>
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> Hash: SHA1
>
> Ian,
>
> My Neo is also a voracious chewer. He's chewed a hole into the

insulation
> on my hands-free kit for my cell phone. And I am sure that IF he had

access to
> a powercord I'd have one fried Lovebird. . .
>
> Herman
> "Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:meEhb.100$7n3.61@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> | Hi
> | Not wanting to appear a spoilsport/partypooper or anything, and not

claiming
> | to be an Avian Expert by any means. Interesting site, but ..... and a

BIG
> | but, although lots of the 'Toys' claim to be bird safe, after looking at
> | just a few I know there is no way on this earth that Poppet (even still
> | recovering) would be safe with the majority of these toys.... any sort

of
> | wool/leather strands would be down her throat in a flash (yes, I do know

how
> | notorious Lovie's can be) but the toys with Plastic Beads on? Sorry,

that is
> | a nightmare waiting to happen, she loves plastic and WILL chew through

it
> | almost in an instant! :-(
> | Do your Birds chew through plastic this quick? I've seen/discovered her

in
> | the past chew through speaker cable in such a short time, that by the

time
> | I've got to her and taken her off she'd have been fried if it had been a
> | mains cable.
> | Still an interesting site with some very interesting stuff.
> | Ian
> |
> |
> | "mdfloyd" <mdfloyd@qx.net> wrote in message
> | news:cd1ac0f9.0310100412.5389f4c2@posting.google.com...
> | > There are lots of cages and toys and other neat stuff for sale at
> | > www.scritches.com -- good deals, too!
> | >
> | > _________________________
> | > www.scritches.com
> | > everything but the bird
> | > _________________________
> |
> |
> |
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Digital_Cowboy

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Iah,

Yep, Neo LOVES to chew any and all of my fingernails, my chain,
my earring, or whatever he can get his beak on. . .I've picked up a
few scars from my 'Tiels, but so far none from Neo. . .

He also loves to chew papertowel/toiletpaper rolls, newsprint,
etc. . .And it's "funny" to watch him stick it under his tailfeathers
for "nest" building when he doesn't have either a nestbox, nor an
active nest in his cage. . .

Herman
"Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:lTGhb.1$VG3.0@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
| Herman
|
| I know exactly what you mean, Po-Po and Poppet use to regularly
| chew the plastic curtain pole, curtains, lampshades, wooden picture
| frames(quickly shoood away !) and virtually anything else they
| could get hold of and they were only let out when we were there.
| Poppet is very very fond of seed sticks, and even though they're
| only ever there for a day or two she regularly chews at the plastic
| clip at the top ... she can only just reach it so never manages
| much damage. I have also had her get a hold of my thumbnail(long as
| I use to play bass guitar) and has managed to leave a hole in it or
| even broken it sometimes and God help you if they get hold of
| finger flesh, especially the flesh between you thumb and
| forefinger.... OUCH!! and we have the scars too.
|
| "Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
| news:mFGhb.31514$pv6.10733@twister.nyc.rr.com...
| >
| > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
| > Hash: SHA1
| >
| > Ian,
| >
| > My Neo is also a voracious chewer. He's chewed a hole into the
| insulation
| > on my hands-free kit for my cell phone. And I am sure that IF he had
| access to
| > a powercord I'd have one fried Lovebird. . .
| >
| > Herman
| > "Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
| > news:meEhb.100$7n3.61@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
| > | Hi
| > | Not wanting to appear a spoilsport/partypooper or anything, and not
| claiming
| > | to be an Avian Expert by any means. Interesting site, but ..... and a
| BIG
| > | but, although lots of the 'Toys' claim to be bird safe, after looking at
| > | just a few I know there is no way on this earth that Poppet (even still
| > | recovering) would be safe with the majority of these toys.... any sort
| of
| > | wool/leather strands would be down her throat in a flash (yes, I do know
| how
| > | notorious Lovie's can be) but the toys with Plastic Beads on? Sorry,
| that is
| > | a nightmare waiting to happen, she loves plastic and WILL chew through
| it
| > | almost in an instant! :-(
| > | Do your Birds chew through plastic this quick? I've seen/discovered her
| in
| > | the past chew through speaker cable in such a short time, that by the
| time
| > | I've got to her and taken her off she'd have been fried if it had been a
| > | mains cable.
| > | Still an interesting site with some very interesting stuff.
| > | Ian
| > |
| > |
| > | "mdfloyd" <mdfloyd@qx.net> wrote in message
| > | news:cd1ac0f9.0310100412.5389f4c2@posting.google.com...
| > | > There are lots of cages and toys and other neat stuff for sale at
| > | > www.scritches.com -- good deals, too!
| > | >
| > | > _________________________
| > | > www.scritches.com
| > | > everything but the bird
| > | > _________________________
| > |
| > |
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Mamabird
Hate to tell you this, cowboy, but your inexperience is showing. If your
lovebird sticks paper in its tail feathers it's NOT a HE. Only the females
use this means to transport nesting material to the nesting site.
You're welcome.
--
Mama
~^~^~^~ Visit Mamabird's Nest: <http://iluvbirds.tripod.com/> And My
Photo Albums at: <http://photos.yahoo.com/iluvbirdz>
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:tuIhb.31538$pv6.301@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>
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> Hash: SHA1
>
> Iah,
>
> Yep, Neo LOVES to chew any and all of my fingernails, my chain,
> my earring, or whatever he can get his beak on. . .I've picked up a
> few scars from my 'Tiels, but so far none from Neo. . .
>
> He also loves to chew papertowel/toiletpaper rolls, newsprint,
> etc. . .And it's "funny" to watch him stick it under his tailfeathers
> for "nest" building when he doesn't have either a nestbox, nor an
> active nest in his cage. . .
>
> Herman
> "Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:lTGhb.1$VG3.0@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> | Herman
> |
> | I know exactly what you mean, Po-Po and Poppet use to regularly
> | chew the plastic curtain pole, curtains, lampshades, wooden picture
> | frames(quickly shoood away !) and virtually anything else they
> | could get hold of and they were only let out when we were there.
> | Poppet is very very fond of seed sticks, and even though they're
> | only ever there for a day or two she regularly chews at the plastic
> | clip at the top ... she can only just reach it so never manages
> | much damage. I have also had her get a hold of my thumbnail(long as
> | I use to play bass guitar) and has managed to leave a hole in it or
> | even broken it sometimes and God help you if they get hold of
> | finger flesh, especially the flesh between you thumb and
> | forefinger.... OUCH!! and we have the scars too.
> |
> | "Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
> | news:mFGhb.31514$pv6.10733@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> | >
> | > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> | > Hash: SHA1
> | >
> | > Ian,
> | >
> | > My Neo is also a voracious chewer. He's chewed a hole into the
> | insulation
> | > on my hands-free kit for my cell phone. And I am sure that IF he had
> | access to
> | > a powercord I'd have one fried Lovebird. . .
> | >
> | > Herman
> | > "Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> | > news:meEhb.100$7n3.61@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> | > | Hi
> | > | Not wanting to appear a spoilsport/partypooper or anything, and not
> | claiming
> | > | to be an Avian Expert by any means. Interesting site, but ..... and

a
> | BIG
> | > | but, although lots of the 'Toys' claim to be bird safe, after

looking at
> | > | just a few I know there is no way on this earth that Poppet (even

still
> | > | recovering) would be safe with the majority of these toys.... any

sort
> | of
> | > | wool/leather strands would be down her throat in a flash (yes, I do

know
> | how
> | > | notorious Lovie's can be) but the toys with Plastic Beads on?

Sorry,
> | that is
> | > | a nightmare waiting to happen, she loves plastic and WILL chew

through
> | it
> | > | almost in an instant! :-(
> | > | Do your Birds chew through plastic this quick? I've seen/discovered

her
> | in
> | > | the past chew through speaker cable in such a short time, that by

the
> | time
> | > | I've got to her and taken her off she'd have been fried if it had

been a
> | > | mains cable.
> | > | Still an interesting site with some very interesting stuff.
> | > | Ian
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | "mdfloyd" <mdfloyd@qx.net> wrote in message
> | > | news:cd1ac0f9.0310100412.5389f4c2@posting.google.com...
> | > | > There are lots of cages and toys and other neat stuff for sale at
> | > | > www.scritches.com -- good deals, too!
> | > | >
> | > | > _________________________
> | > | > www.scritches.com
> | > | > everything but the bird
> | > | > _________________________
> | > |
> | > |
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"Mamabird,"

From talking with people at various pet stores, and other owners
BOTH males and FEMALES do this. And here is a snippet from the
http://www.parrotparrot.com/lovebirds/breeding.htm web site.
Also, when you put nesting material in a cage, both hens and cocks
will shred the material, but hens will tuck the material under their
wings to take them to the nesting box. Males will try to do this,
usually unsuccessfully.

Once again, there will always be exceptions to these general
characteristics.


And I can tell you that from observing Neo while he's been in
engaging in this behavior that he has NOT been successful in his
attempt, as more often then NOT as soon he moves. The strips of
paper that he has tucked under his feathers HAVE fallen out. With
maybe one or two staying tucked under his feathers.

Herman
"Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote in message
news:x3Jhb.5532$av5.1886@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
| Hate to tell you this, cowboy, but your inexperience is showing. If
| your lovebird sticks paper in its tail feathers it's NOT a HE. Only
| the females use this means to transport nesting material to the
| nesting site.
| You're welcome.
| --
| Mama
| ~^~^~^~ Visit Mamabird's Nest: <http://iluvbirds.tripod.com/> And
| My Photo Albums at: <http://photos.yahoo.com/iluvbirdz>
| ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
|
| "Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
| news:tuIhb.31538$pv6.301@twister.nyc.rr.com...
| >
| > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
| > Hash: SHA1
| >
| > Iah,
| >
| > Yep, Neo LOVES to chew any and all of my fingernails, my chain,
| > my earring, or whatever he can get his beak on. . .I've picked up a
| > few scars from my 'Tiels, but so far none from Neo. . .
| >
| > He also loves to chew papertowel/toiletpaper rolls, newsprint,
| > etc. . .And it's "funny" to watch him stick it under his tailfeathers
| > for "nest" building when he doesn't have either a nestbox, nor an
| > active nest in his cage. . .
| >
| > Herman
| > "Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
| > news:lTGhb.1$VG3.0@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
| > | Herman
| > |
| > | I know exactly what you mean, Po-Po and Poppet use to regularly
| > | chew the plastic curtain pole, curtains, lampshades, wooden picture
| > | frames(quickly shoood away !) and virtually anything else they
| > | could get hold of and they were only let out when we were there.
| > | Poppet is very very fond of seed sticks, and even though they're
| > | only ever there for a day or two she regularly chews at the plastic
| > | clip at the top ... she can only just reach it so never manages
| > | much damage. I have also had her get a hold of my thumbnail(long as
| > | I use to play bass guitar) and has managed to leave a hole in it or
| > | even broken it sometimes and God help you if they get hold of
| > | finger flesh, especially the flesh between you thumb and
| > | forefinger.... OUCH!! and we have the scars too.
| > |
| > | "Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
| > | news:mFGhb.31514$pv6.10733@twister.nyc.rr.com...
| > | >
| > | > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
| > | > Hash: SHA1
| > | >
| > | > Ian,
| > | >
| > | > My Neo is also a voracious chewer. He's chewed a hole into the
| > | insulation
| > | > on my hands-free kit for my cell phone. And I am sure that IF he had
| > | access to
| > | > a powercord I'd have one fried Lovebird. . .
| > | >
| > | > Herman
| > | > "Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
| > | > news:meEhb.100$7n3.61@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
| > | > | Hi
| > | > | Not wanting to appear a spoilsport/partypooper or anything, and not
| > | claiming
| > | > | to be an Avian Expert by any means. Interesting site, but ..... and
| a
| > | BIG
| > | > | but, although lots of the 'Toys' claim to be bird safe, after
| looking at
| > | > | just a few I know there is no way on this earth that Poppet (even
| still
| > | > | recovering) would be safe with the majority of these toys.... any
| sort
| > | of
| > | > | wool/leather strands would be down her throat in a flash (yes, I do
| know
| > | how
| > | > | notorious Lovie's can be) but the toys with Plastic Beads on?
| Sorry,
| > | that is
| > | > | a nightmare waiting to happen, she loves plastic and WILL chew
| through
| > | it
| > | > | almost in an instant! :-(
| > | > | Do your Birds chew through plastic this quick? I've seen/discovered
| her
| > | in
| > | > | the past chew through speaker cable in such a short time, that by
| the
| > | time
| > | > | I've got to her and taken her off she'd have been fried if it had
| been a
| > | > | mains cable.
| > | > | Still an interesting site with some very interesting stuff.
| > | > | Ian
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | "mdfloyd" <mdfloyd@qx.net> wrote in message
| > | > | news:cd1ac0f9.0310100412.5389f4c2@posting.google.com...
| > | > | > There are lots of cages and toys and other neat stuff for sale at
| > | > | > www.scritches.com -- good deals, too!
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _________________________
| > | > | > www.scritches.com
| > | > | > everything but the bird
| > | > | > _________________________
| > | > |
| > | > |
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jag_bcw
Who's showing their INEXPERIENCE then! *mamabird*
"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:QVKhb.69663$lZ6.10909013@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> "Mamabird,"
>
> From talking with people at various pet stores, and other owners
> BOTH males and FEMALES do this. And here is a snippet from the
> http://www.parrotparrot.com/lovebirds/breeding.htm web site.
> Also, when you put nesting material in a cage, both hens and cocks
> will shred the material, but hens will tuck the material under their
> wings to take them to the nesting box. Males will try to do this,
> usually unsuccessfully.
>
> Once again, there will always be exceptions to these general
> characteristics.
>
>
> And I can tell you that from observing Neo while he's been in
> engaging in this behavior that he has NOT been successful in his
> attempt, as more often then NOT as soon he moves. The strips of
> paper that he has tucked under his feathers HAVE fallen out. With
> maybe one or two staying tucked under his feathers.
>
> Herman
> "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote in message
> news:x3Jhb.5532$av5.1886@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> | Hate to tell you this, cowboy, but your inexperience is showing. If
> | your lovebird sticks paper in its tail feathers it's NOT a HE. Only
> | the females use this means to transport nesting material to the
> | nesting site.
> | You're welcome.
> | --
> | Mama
> | ~^~^~^~ Visit Mamabird's Nest: <http://iluvbirds.tripod.com/> And
> | My Photo Albums at: <http://photos.yahoo.com/iluvbirdz>
> | ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
> |
> | "Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
> | news:tuIhb.31538$pv6.301@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> | >
> | > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> | > Hash: SHA1
> | >
> | > Iah,
> | >
> | > Yep, Neo LOVES to chew any and all of my fingernails, my chain,
> | > my earring, or whatever he can get his beak on. . .I've picked up a
> | > few scars from my 'Tiels, but so far none from Neo. . .
> | >
> | > He also loves to chew papertowel/toiletpaper rolls, newsprint,
> | > etc. . .And it's "funny" to watch him stick it under his tailfeathers
> | > for "nest" building when he doesn't have either a nestbox, nor an
> | > active nest in his cage. . .
> | >
> | > Herman
> | > "Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> | > news:lTGhb.1$VG3.0@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> | > | Herman
> | > |
> | > | I know exactly what you mean, Po-Po and Poppet use to regularly
> | > | chew the plastic curtain pole, curtains, lampshades, wooden picture
> | > | frames(quickly shoood away !) and virtually anything else they
> | > | could get hold of and they were only let out when we were there.
> | > | Poppet is very very fond of seed sticks, and even though they're
> | > | only ever there for a day or two she regularly chews at the plastic
> | > | clip at the top ... she can only just reach it so never manages
> | > | much damage. I have also had her get a hold of my thumbnail(long as
> | > | I use to play bass guitar) and has managed to leave a hole in it or
> | > | even broken it sometimes and God help you if they get hold of
> | > | finger flesh, especially the flesh between you thumb and
> | > | forefinger.... OUCH!! and we have the scars too.
> | > |
> | > | "Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:mFGhb.31514$pv6.10733@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> | > | >
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> | > | >
> | > | > Ian,
> | > | >
> | > | > My Neo is also a voracious chewer. He's chewed a hole into

the
> | > | insulation
> | > | > on my hands-free kit for my cell phone. And I am sure that IF he

had
> | > | access to
> | > | > a powercord I'd have one fried Lovebird. . .
> | > | >
> | > | > Herman
> | > | > "Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> | > | > news:meEhb.100$7n3.61@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> | > | > | Hi
> | > | > | Not wanting to appear a spoilsport/partypooper or anything, and

not
> | > | claiming
> | > | > | to be an Avian Expert by any means. Interesting site, but .....

and
> | a
> | > | BIG
> | > | > | but, although lots of the 'Toys' claim to be bird safe, after
> | looking at
> | > | > | just a few I know there is no way on this earth that Poppet

(even
> | still
> | > | > | recovering) would be safe with the majority of these toys....

any
> | sort
> | > | of
> | > | > | wool/leather strands would be down her throat in a flash (yes, I

do
> | know
> | > | how
> | > | > | notorious Lovie's can be) but the toys with Plastic Beads on?
> | Sorry,
> | > | that is
> | > | > | a nightmare waiting to happen, she loves plastic and WILL chew
> | through
> | > | it
> | > | > | almost in an instant! :-(
> | > | > | Do your Birds chew through plastic this quick? I've

seen/discovered
> | her
> | > | in
> | > | > | the past chew through speaker cable in such a short time, that

by
> | the
> | > | time
> | > | > | I've got to her and taken her off she'd have been fried if it

had
> | been a
> | > | > | mains cable.
> | > | > | Still an interesting site with some very interesting stuff.
> | > | > | Ian
> | > | > |
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "mdfloyd" <mdfloyd@qx.net> wrote in message
> | > | > | news:cd1ac0f9.0310100412.5389f4c2@posting.google.com...
> | > | > | > There are lots of cages and toys and other neat stuff for sale

at
> | > | > | > www.scritches.com -- good deals, too!
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > _________________________
> | > | > | > www.scritches.com
> | > | > | > everything but the bird
> | > | > | > _________________________
> | > | > |
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Mamabird

I've had lovebirds for at least 12 years... even bred them for awhile and
have never seen a male attempt to carry nesting material in his feathers.
The hens always do, and it's a comical sight, since they seem oblivious to
the fact that most of their "treasure" is lost along the way.

In *my* experience only the hens do this, and the males just assist in
shredding the paper. See the links below:

http://rosecottageperth.tripod.com/olivia2.html#love
http://carolinalovebirds.iwonpages....primNavIndex=5&

"jag_bcw" <jag_bcw@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:2c0ib.457$d47.23563@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> Who's showing their INEXPERIENCE then! *mamabird*


> "Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
> news:QVKhb.69663$lZ6.10909013@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> >
> > "Mamabird,"
> >
> > From talking with people at various pet stores, and other owners
> > BOTH males and FEMALES do this. And here is a snippet from the
> > http://www.parrotparrot.com/lovebirds/breeding.htm web site.
> > Also, when you put nesting material in a cage, both hens and cocks
> > will shred the material, but hens will tuck the material under their
> > wings to take them to the nesting box. Males will try to do this,
> > usually unsuccessfully.
> >
> > Once again, there will always be exceptions to these general
> > characteristics.
> >
> >
> > And I can tell you that from observing Neo while he's been in
> > engaging in this behavior that he has NOT been successful in his
> > attempt, as more often then NOT as soon he moves. The strips of
> > paper that he has tucked under his feathers HAVE fallen out. With
> > maybe one or two staying tucked under his feathers.
> >
> > Herman
> > "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote in message
> > news:x3Jhb.5532$av5.1886@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > | Hate to tell you this, cowboy, but your inexperience is showing. If
> > | your lovebird sticks paper in its tail feathers it's NOT a HE. Only
> > | the females use this means to transport nesting material to the
> > | nesting site.
> > | You're welcome.


NaDeana
My tiels hate plastic. All of the toys I make for them are of wood and
veggie tanned leather. They shred wood like nothing.


"Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:meEhb.100$7n3.61@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Hi
> Not wanting to appear a spoilsport/partypooper or anything, and not

claiming
> to be an Avian Expert by any means. Interesting site, but ..... and a BIG
> but, although lots of the 'Toys' claim to be bird safe, after looking at
> just a few I know there is no way on this earth that Poppet (even still
> recovering) would be safe with the majority of these toys.... any sort of
> wool/leather strands would be down her throat in a flash (yes, I do know

how
> notorious Lovie's can be) but the toys with Plastic Beads on? Sorry, that

is
> a nightmare waiting to happen, she loves plastic and WILL chew through it
> almost in an instant! :-(
> Do your Birds chew through plastic this quick? I've seen/discovered her in
> the past chew through speaker cable in such a short time, that by the time
> I've got to her and taken her off she'd have been fried if it had been a
> mains cable.
> Still an interesting site with some very interesting stuff.
> Ian
>
>
> "mdfloyd" <mdfloyd@qx.net> wrote in message
> news:cd1ac0f9.0310100412.5389f4c2@posting.google.com...
> > There are lots of cages and toys and other neat stuff for sale at
> > www.scritches.com -- good deals, too!
> >
> > _________________________
> > www.scritches.com
> > everything but the bird
> > _________________________

>
>
>



Digital_Cowboy

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"MB,"

This comes from the second of the two pages that you suggested:


Both the male and female will chew at the nesting material provided but it is
the female that is more skilled at stripping the material into long strips that
she will weave into the feathers of her tail and lower back to carry to the nest
box.

In reading this I would have to say that it is safe to say/presume that the
male DOES in fact attempt to tuck nesting material up under his feathers.
Whether he is successful or not is another matter.

Herman
"Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote in message
news:VS1ib.7108$av5.1523@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
|
| I've had lovebirds for at least 12 years... even bred them for awhile and
| have never seen a male attempt to carry nesting material in his feathers.
| The hens always do, and it's a comical sight, since they seem oblivious to
| the fact that most of their "treasure" is lost along the way.
|
| In *my* experience only the hens do this, and the males just assist in
| shredding the paper. See the links below:
|
| http://rosecottageperth.tripod.com/olivia2.html#love
| http://carolinalovebirds.iwonpages....primNavIndex=5&
|
| "jag_bcw" <jag_bcw@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
| news:2c0ib.457$d47.23563@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
| > Who's showing their INEXPERIENCE then! *mamabird*
|
| > "Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
| > news:QVKhb.69663$lZ6.10909013@twister.nyc.rr.com...
| > >
| > > "Mamabird,"
| > >
| > > From talking with people at various pet stores, and other owners
| > > BOTH males and FEMALES do this. And here is a snippet from the
| > > http://www.parrotparrot.com/lovebirds/breeding.htm web site.
| > > Also, when you put nesting material in a cage, both hens and cocks
| > > will shred the material, but hens will tuck the material under their
| > > wings to take them to the nesting box. Males will try to do this,
| > > usually unsuccessfully.
| > >
| > > Once again, there will always be exceptions to these general
| > > characteristics.
| > >
| > >
| > > And I can tell you that from observing Neo while he's been in
| > > engaging in this behavior that he has NOT been successful in his
| > > attempt, as more often then NOT as soon he moves. The strips of
| > > paper that he has tucked under his feathers HAVE fallen out. With
| > > maybe one or two staying tucked under his feathers.
| > >
| > > Herman
| > > "Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote in message
| > > news:x3Jhb.5532$av5.1886@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
| > > | Hate to tell you this, cowboy, but your inexperience is showing. If
| > > | your lovebird sticks paper in its tail feathers it's NOT a HE. Only
| > > | the females use this means to transport nesting material to the
| > > | nesting site.
| > > | You're welcome.
|
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Steve

"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:NA6ib.64874$nU6.11627892@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> "MB,"
>
> This comes from the second of the two pages that you suggested:
>
>
> Both the male and female will chew at the nesting material provided but it

is
> the female that is more skilled at stripping the material into long strips

that
> she will weave into the feathers of her tail and lower back to carry to

the nest
> box.
>
> In reading this I would have to say that it is safe to say/presume

that the
> male DOES in fact attempt to tuck nesting material up under his feathers.
> Whether he is successful or not is another matter.
>
> Herman



Not safe at all.

You seem to think that it says females are better at stripping material AND
at tucking them into their tails.
What it says is that females are better than males at stripping the material
and it also says that females tuck the stuff into their tails. It says
nothing about the males tucking the stuff - probably because they don't do
it.

Comprehension is a wonderful thing. You should try it sometime. Makes life
a whole lot easier for everyone - less fun, but easier.

--
* Steve *


oldmolly

"jag_bcw" <jag_bcw@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:2c0ib.457$d47.23563@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> Who's showing their INEXPERIENCE then! *mamabird*


*you* are, by top posting.


mdfloyd
I agree that not all the toys listed on scritches.com are suitable for
all birds -- that's why it's so important that you know your bird and
what's safe for it. While my cockatiels would safely play with a toy
with plastic beads for weeks, my brown-head would manage to chew
through and swallow the same bead in a matter of minutes. Personally,
I prefer to give my birds toys with wooden parts, but again . . . I
know my birds. ;-)

--------------------
www.scritches.com
everything but the bird
--------------------

"Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:<meEhb.100$7n3.61@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>...
> Hi
> Not wanting to appear a spoilsport/partypooper or anything, and not claiming
> to be an Avian Expert by any means. Interesting site, but ..... and a BIG
> but, although lots of the 'Toys' claim to be bird safe, after looking at
> just a few I know there is no way on this earth that Poppet (even still
> recovering) would be safe with the majority of these toys.... any sort of
> wool/leather strands would be down her throat in a flash (yes, I do know how
> notorious Lovie's can be) but the toys with Plastic Beads on? Sorry, that is
> a nightmare waiting to happen, she loves plastic and WILL chew through it
> almost in an instant! :-(
> Do your Birds chew through plastic this quick? I've seen/discovered her in
> the past chew through speaker cable in such a short time, that by the time
> I've got to her and taken her off she'd have been fried if it had been a
> mains cable.
> Still an interesting site with some very interesting stuff.
> Ian
>
>
> "mdfloyd" <mdfloyd@qx.net> wrote in message
> news:cd1ac0f9.0310100412.5389f4c2@posting.google.com...
> > There are lots of cages and toys and other neat stuff for sale at
> > www.scritches.com -- good deals, too!
> >
> > _________________________
> > www.scritches.com
> > everything but the bird
> > _________________________

Ian
Yep, Poppet only gets wooden toys now, although she seems to have lost
interest in toys a bit as she's gotten older, I think she enjoys becoming a
couch potato nowadays ..... eating, TV, eating, TV, eating etc ;-)
I have made toys in the past and always found hardwood to be a much better
option...... would sure last a lot longer than softwood toys.
I do think though that scritches are a bit off-line saying that their toys
are suitable for all birds and bird safe...it is down to the individual
bird. Just hope some owners don't just buy a toy because it looks good,
without taking into account their birds habits :-)

"mdfloyd" <mdfloyd@qx.net> wrote in message
news:cd1ac0f9.0310121407.65295e41@posting.google.com...
> I agree that not all the toys listed on scritches.com are suitable for
> all birds -- that's why it's so important that you know your bird and
> what's safe for it. While my cockatiels would safely play with a toy
> with plastic beads for weeks, my brown-head would manage to chew
> through and swallow the same bead in a matter of minutes. Personally,
> I prefer to give my birds toys with wooden parts, but again . . . I
> know my birds. ;-)
>
> --------------------
> www.scritches.com
> everything but the bird
> --------------------
>
> "Ian" <lovebytes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

news:<meEhb.100$7n3.61@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>...
> > Hi
> > Not wanting to appear a spoilsport/partypooper or anything, and not

claiming
> > to be an Avian Expert by any means. Interesting site, but ..... and a

BIG
> > but, although lots of the 'Toys' claim to be bird safe, after looking at
> > just a few I know there is no way on this earth that Poppet (even still
> > recovering) would be safe with the majority of these toys.... any sort

of
> > wool/leather strands would be down her throat in a flash (yes, I do know

how
> > notorious Lovie's can be) but the toys with Plastic Beads on? Sorry,

that is
> > a nightmare waiting to happen, she loves plastic and WILL chew through

it
> > almost in an instant! :-(
> > Do your Birds chew through plastic this quick? I've seen/discovered her

in
> > the past chew through speaker cable in such a short time, that by the

time
> > I've got to her and taken her off she'd have been fried if it had been a
> > mains cable.
> > Still an interesting site with some very interesting stuff.
> > Ian
> >
> >
> > "mdfloyd" <mdfloyd@qx.net> wrote in message
> > news:cd1ac0f9.0310100412.5389f4c2@posting.google.com...
> > > There are lots of cages and toys and other neat stuff for sale at
> > > www.scritches.com -- good deals, too!
> > >
> > > _________________________
> > > www.scritches.com
> > > everything but the bird
> > > _________________________





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