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| Mamabird |
I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small bare
spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a heavy
molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some feathers.
I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they itch.
I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out the
gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put some in
his water too?
TIA!
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| Michele Maynard |
Mama, my breeder recommends spray Benadryl for these situations. Easily
accessible and bird safe!
"Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message
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> I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small bare
> spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a heavy
> molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some feathers.
> I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they itch.
> I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out the
> gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put some in
> his water too?
> TIA!
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> Mama
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| High Flight |
Mamabird <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> says...
> I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small bare
> spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a heavy
> molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some feathers.
> I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they itch.
> I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out the
> gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put some in
> his water too?
Take him to an avian vet.
Jack
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| Toucanldy |
>From: "Mamabird" iluvbirds.@directlink..com
I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small bare
>spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a heavy
>molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some feathers.
>I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they itch.
>I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out the
>gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put some in
>his water too?
>TIA!
Just wanted to mention that one of the symptoms of giardia, is feather
plucking.
Regards
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| Mamabird |
> "Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message
> news:uspfb.662$gA1.374@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small
bare
> > spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a
heavy
> > molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some
feathers.
> > I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they
itch.
> > I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out
the
> > gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put some
in
> > his water too?
> > TIA!
"Michele Maynard" <throwthebook@rottenspammers.com> wrote in message
news:mtqfb.308$ai3.48510241@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> Mama, my breeder recommends spray Benadryl for these situations. Easily
> accessible and bird safe!
>
Thanks. I have to go to the pharmacy on Mon. anyway so will pick some up.
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| Mamabird |
"High Flight" <jac@apk.net> wrote in message
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> Mamabird <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> says...
> > I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small
bare
> > spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a
heavy
> > molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some
feathers.
> > I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they
itch.
> > I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out
the
> > gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put some
in
> > his water too?
>
> Take him to an avian vet.
>
> Jack
Eeeeeemmmm... I think that's a little premature. You know I'll take him if
he needs to go, but (to me) itchies don't constitute an emergency.
I think I'll try the Benadryl spray first.
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| Mamabird |
"Toucanldy" <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "Mamabird" iluvbirds.@directlink..com
> I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small bare
> >spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a
heavy
> >molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some
feathers.
> >I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they itch.
> >I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out the
> >gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put some in
> >his water too?
> >TIA!
>
> Just wanted to mention that one of the symptoms of giardia, is feather
> plucking.
>
> Regards
Yes! This occurred to me last night as well. Problem: I'm too weak right
now to start them on another round of treatment. It takes a lot of energy
to towel and give meds to 16 birds, (and disinfect 12 cages!) especially
when there's no one to help. :(
*I* have to get well before I can do anything for them. I'm really in a bad
situation...
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| Loren Coe |
In article <neqfb.935$gA1.425@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Mamabird wrote:
> Forgot to mention - there are a few new feathers coming in in those bare > places.
just a wild ass guess from an amateur, if you did something to distract him? maybe
a mirror, or a companion? let him stay out of the cage? whatever... good luck, --Loren
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| High Flight |
Mamabird <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> says...
>> > I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small
> bare
>> > spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a
> heavy
>> > molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some
> feathers.
>> > I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they
> itch.
>> > I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out
> the
>> > gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put some
> in
>> > his water too?
>>
>> Take him to an avian vet.
>>
>> Jack
>
> Eeeeeemmmm... I think that's a little premature.
What if you're wrong?
> You know I'll take him if he needs to go, but (to me) itchies don't
> constitute an emergency.
Again, what if you're wrong? And why involve a vet only in emergencies?
> I think I'll try the Benadryl spray first.
Why not at least CALL your avian vet and get HIS opinion? Who's better
qualified to make a diagnosis and treat, or recommend a treatment, than
your own vet, who knows you and your birds?
Jack
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| Digital_Cowboy |
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"High Flight" <jac@apk.net> wrote in message
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> Mamabird <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> says...
> >> > I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small
> > bare
> >> > spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a
> > heavy
> >> > molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some
> > feathers.
> >> > I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they
> > itch.
> >> > I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out
> > the
> >> > gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put some
> > in
> >> > his water too?
> >>
> >> Take him to an avian vet.
> >>
> >> Jack
> >
> > Eeeeeemmmm... I think that's a little premature.
>
> What if you're wrong?
Exactly given that ALL birds are "experts" at concealing
injuries/illness (so as NOT to be "forced" out of the flock) it isn't a bad
idea to take your birds to the vet on a regular basis just as you would a
child. That way IF your bird is starting to develop an illness you'll know
about it and will be able to treat it.
I have a Peachfaced Lovebird that I recently took to the vets after my
beloved 'Tiel of 11 yrs had passed away and the vet discovered that he had
had a slight viral infection. Fortunatly he wasn't yet sheading said
infection in his droppings. He gave me some medicine to give him, and it
cleared him right up. BUT had I not TAKEN him to the vet's for a Well Bird
check-up I would have never known about this infection.
>
>
> > You know I'll take him if he needs to go, but (to me) itchies don't
> > constitute an emergency.
>
> Again, what if you're wrong? And why involve a vet only in emergencies?
See my response above.
>
>
> > I think I'll try the Benadryl spray first.
>
> Why not at least CALL your avian vet and get HIS opinion? Who's better
> qualified to make a diagnosis and treat, or recommend a treatment, than
> your own vet, who knows you and your birds?
That would at lest would be the prudent thing to do.
>
Herman F. Ebeling Jr.
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| Noah Sark |
"Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message
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> "Toucanldy" <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031004094207.11891.00000220@mb-m03.aol.com...
> >
> > >From: "Mamabird" iluvbirds.@directlink..com
> > I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small bare
> > >spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a
> heavy
> > >molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some
> feathers.
> > >I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they
itch.
> > >I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out
the
> > >gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put some
in
> > >his water too?
> > >TIA!
> >
> > Just wanted to mention that one of the symptoms of giardia, is feather
> > plucking.
> >
> > Regards
>
> Yes! This occurred to me last night as well. Problem: I'm too weak right
> now to start them on another round of treatment. It takes a lot of energy
> to towel and give meds to 16 birds, (and disinfect 12 cages!) especially
> when there's no one to help. :(
> *I* have to get well before I can do anything for them. I'm really in a
bad
> situation...
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> Mama
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QUIT BITCHIN' ABOUT BEING WEAK AND HAVING NO HELP OR "HAVING TO GET WELL" OR
FIND THE BIRDS A HOME WHERE THEY WILL BE PROPERLY CARED FOR !!! HAVING MORE
PETS THAN YOU ARE ABLE TO CARE FOR IS TANTAMOUNT TO ABUSE!!!!
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| Mamabird |
"High Flight" <jac@apk.net> wrote in message
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> Mamabird <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> says...
> >> > I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small
> > bare
> >> > spots on his chest and tummy. <snip>
> >>
> >> Take him to an avian vet.
> >>
> >> Jack
> >
> > Eeeeeemmmm... I think that's a little premature.
>
> What if you're wrong?
If I'm wrong I'll have to live with the guilt, because right now there's
absolutely nothing I can do about it.
> > You know I'll take him if he needs to go, but (to me) itchies don't
> > constitute an emergency.
>
> Again, what if you're wrong? And why involve a vet only in emergencies?
I don't think I'm wrong.
An emergency to me is a bird exhibiting *any* signs of unknown illness.
Since we already know that the birds are considered the source of my
Giardia infection (both my MD and the Vet agree on this) I'm not alarmed
that one of them is showing a known symptom of the infection. If it was
something non-Giardia related, THAT, to me, would be an emergency.
I'm on my third round of Flagyl. The birds and the house dogs have been
treated twice and will be treated at least once more. It's very difficult
to get rid of.
> > I think I'll try the Benadryl spray first.
>
> Why not at least CALL your avian vet and get HIS opinion? Who's better
> qualified to make a diagnosis and treat, or recommend a treatment, than
> your own vet, who knows you and your birds?
He's already treating them, Jack. He's giving them Flagyl for Giardia. I
just have to get well enough to get them through their next treatment. The
only thing I can do now is try and relieve Sidekick's itchiness until I can
do that.
I have a whole battery of tests coming up this week, plus doctor's
appointments, and on Thurs. a surgical procedure that's going to put me out
of commission for at least for 48 hours. WHAT do you want me to do?
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| Mamabird |
"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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> "High Flight" <jac@apk.net> wrote in message
> news:blpjqg$cvn$1@plonk.apk.net...
> > Mamabird <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> says...
> > >> > I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some
small
> > > bare
> > >> > spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of
a
> > > heavy
> > >> > molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some
> > > feathers.
> > >> > I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they
> > > itch.
> > >> > I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze
out
> > > the
> > >> > gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put
some
> > > in
> > >> > his water too?
> > >>
> > >> Take him to an avian vet.
> > >>
> > >> Jack
> > >
> > > Eeeeeemmmm... I think that's a little premature.
> >
> > What if you're wrong?
>
> Exactly given that ALL birds are "experts" at concealing
> injuries/illness (so as NOT to be "forced" out of the flock) it isn't a
bad
> idea to take your birds to the vet on a regular basis just as you would a
> child. That way IF your bird is starting to develop an illness you'll
know
> about it and will be able to treat it.
>
> I have a Peachfaced Lovebird that I recently took to the vets after
my
> beloved 'Tiel of 11 yrs had passed away and the vet discovered that he
had
> had a slight viral infection. Fortunatly he wasn't yet sheading said
> infection in his droppings. He gave me some medicine to give him, and it
> cleared him right up. BUT had I not TAKEN him to the vet's for a Well
Bird
> check-up I would have never known about this infection.
>
> >
> >
> > > You know I'll take him if he needs to go, but (to me) itchies don't
> > > constitute an emergency.
> >
> > Again, what if you're wrong? And why involve a vet only in
emergencies?
>
> See my response above.
>
> >
> >
> > > I think I'll try the Benadryl spray first.
> >
> > Why not at least CALL your avian vet and get HIS opinion? Who's better
> > qualified to make a diagnosis and treat, or recommend a treatment, than
> > your own vet, who knows you and your birds?
>
> That would at lest would be the prudent thing to do.
Cowboy,
You know nothing of my situation and nothing of my experience with birds. I
appreciate your advice but you're preaching to the choir.
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| Mamabird |
"Noah Sark" <Ndawg@theark.com> wrote in message
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> "Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message
> news:H0Cfb.1308$Qy2.191@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > "Toucanldy" <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20031004094207.11891.00000220@mb-m03.aol.com...
> > >
> > > >From: "Mamabird" iluvbirds.@directlink..com
> > > I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small
bare
> > > >spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a
> > heavy
> > > >molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some
> > feathers.
> > > >I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they
> itch.
> > > >I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out
> the
> > > >gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put
some
> in
> > > >his water too?
> > > >TIA!
> > >
> > > Just wanted to mention that one of the symptoms of giardia, is
feather
> > > plucking.
> > >
> > > Regards
> >
> > Yes! This occurred to me last night as well. Problem: I'm too weak
right
> > now to start them on another round of treatment. It takes a lot of
energy
> > to towel and give meds to 16 birds, (and disinfect 12 cages!)
especially
> > when there's no one to help. :(
> > *I* have to get well before I can do anything for them. I'm really in a
> bad
> > situation...
> QUIT BITCHIN' ABOUT BEING WEAK AND HAVING NO HELP OR "HAVING TO GET WELL"
OR
> FIND THE BIRDS A HOME WHERE THEY WILL BE PROPERLY CARED FOR !!! HAVING
MORE
> PETS THAN YOU ARE ABLE TO CARE FOR IS TANTAMOUNT TO ABUSE!!!!
Ah... the king/queen of exclamation points is back!!!!!!!!!
Let's see... this is your fifth post here and every one of them has been to
YELL !!!!!!! insults and accusations!!!!! at me and call me a bitch!!!!!!
Exactly what have I ever done to you?!!!!
Did Ravl send you to post this latest tirade?!!!! You're obviously too
immature to think for yourself!!!!!!
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Noah,
The current situation that the writer finds themself in could very well
be an illness that has recently hit them, and that under "normal"
circumstances they are able to adequately deal with all of their birds.
To make the statement that you did without knowing the whole story is
very irresponsible, and could end up with you looking like the bad guy
instead of someone who has the best interests of the birds at heart.
The better thing to do would be to offer to help them IF:
a) you are able
b) you and the writer live in the same area
Herman
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> "Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message
> news:H0Cfb.1308$Qy2.191@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > "Toucanldy" <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20031004094207.11891.00000220@mb-m03.aol.com...
> > >
> > > >From: "Mamabird" iluvbirds.@directlink..com
> > > I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small
bare
> > > >spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a
> > heavy
> > > >molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some
> > feathers.
> > > >I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they
> itch.
> > > >I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out
> the
> > > >gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put some
> in
> > > >his water too?
> > > >TIA!
> > >
> > > Just wanted to mention that one of the symptoms of giardia, is feather
> > > plucking.
> > >
> > > Regards
> >
> > Yes! This occurred to me last night as well. Problem: I'm too weak right
> > now to start them on another round of treatment. It takes a lot of
energy
> > to towel and give meds to 16 birds, (and disinfect 12 cages!) especially
> > when there's no one to help. :(
> > *I* have to get well before I can do anything for them. I'm really in a
> bad
> > situation...
> > --
> > Mama
> > ~^~^~^~ Visit Mamabird's Nest: <http://iluvbirds.tripod.com/> And My
> > Photo Albums at: <http://photos.yahoo.com/iluvbirdz>
> > ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
> QUIT BITCHIN' ABOUT BEING WEAK AND HAVING NO HELP OR "HAVING TO GET WELL"
OR
> FIND THE BIRDS A HOME WHERE THEY WILL BE PROPERLY CARED FOR !!! HAVING
MORE
> PETS THAN YOU ARE ABLE TO CARE FOR IS TANTAMOUNT TO ABUSE!!!!
>
>
>
>
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"Mama,"
True, I don't know the whole story behind your current situation. But
isn't there someone whom could help you out while you yourself are
recovering?
Herman
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> "Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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> > "High Flight" <jac@apk.net> wrote in message
> > news:blpjqg$cvn$1@plonk.apk.net...
> > > Mamabird <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> says...
> > > >> > I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some
> small
> > > > bare
> > > >> > spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out
of
> a
> > > > heavy
> > > >> > molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some
> > > > feathers.
> > > >> > I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like
they
> > > > itch.
> > > >> > I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze
> out
> > > > the
> > > >> > gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put
> some
> > > > in
> > > >> > his water too?
> > > >>
> > > >> Take him to an avian vet.
> > > >>
> > > >> Jack
> > > >
> > > > Eeeeeemmmm... I think that's a little premature.
> > >
> > > What if you're wrong?
> >
> > Exactly given that ALL birds are "experts" at concealing
> > injuries/illness (so as NOT to be "forced" out of the flock) it isn't a
> bad
> > idea to take your birds to the vet on a regular basis just as you would
a
> > child. That way IF your bird is starting to develop an illness you'll
> know
> > about it and will be able to treat it.
> >
> > I have a Peachfaced Lovebird that I recently took to the vets after
> my
> > beloved 'Tiel of 11 yrs had passed away and the vet discovered that he
> had
> > had a slight viral infection. Fortunatly he wasn't yet sheading said
> > infection in his droppings. He gave me some medicine to give him, and
it
> > cleared him right up. BUT had I not TAKEN him to the vet's for a Well
> Bird
> > check-up I would have never known about this infection.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > You know I'll take him if he needs to go, but (to me) itchies don't
> > > > constitute an emergency.
> > >
> > > Again, what if you're wrong? And why involve a vet only in
> emergencies?
> >
> > See my response above.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think I'll try the Benadryl spray first.
> > >
> > > Why not at least CALL your avian vet and get HIS opinion? Who's
better
> > > qualified to make a diagnosis and treat, or recommend a treatment,
than
> > > your own vet, who knows you and your birds?
> >
> > That would at lest would be the prudent thing to do.
>
> Cowboy,
> You know nothing of my situation and nothing of my experience with birds.
I
> appreciate your advice but you're preaching to the choir.
> --
> Mama
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> > Cowboy,
> > You know nothing of my situation and nothing of my experience with
birds.
> I
> > appreciate your advice but you're preaching to the choir.
> > --
"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:Ln4gb.53476$lZ6.8452292@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>
> "Mama,"
>
> True, I don't know the whole story behind your current situation.
But
> isn't there someone whom could help you out while you yourself are
> recovering?
>
> Herman
All I have is my 81 year old mother and my 'almost ex' husband. My mom
can't help with the birds because they don't like her and I'm afraid she'll
get bitten. The 'almost ex' comes out every morning and does the morning
feeding and paper changing, but I have to feed all the cats/dogs/birds
every afternoon. (He was doing both but can only come mornings now.)
My mom is driving me to all my appointments, but the avian vet is almost 60
miles away on the Interstate. She is afraid to drive on a busy Interstate
and I wouldn't let her anyway.
I'll just have to get through this best I can and do what I can for my
babies until I'm well again.
Thank you for your concern...
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| oldmolly |
"Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message
news:2S3gb.4308$gA1.1262@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> "High Flight" <jac@apk.net> wrote in message
> news:blpjqg$cvn$1@plonk.apk.net...
> > Mamabird <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> says...
> > >> > I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small
> > > bare
> > >> > spots on his chest and tummy. <snip>
> > >>
> > >> Take him to an avian vet.
> > >>
> > >> Jack
> > >
> > > Eeeeeemmmm... I think that's a little premature.
> >
> > What if you're wrong?
>
> If I'm wrong I'll have to live with the guilt, because right now there's
> absolutely nothing I can do about it.
>
> > > You know I'll take him if he needs to go, but (to me) itchies don't
> > > constitute an emergency.
> >
> > Again, what if you're wrong? And why involve a vet only in emergencies?
>
> I don't think I'm wrong.
> An emergency to me is a bird exhibiting *any* signs of unknown illness.
> Since we already know that the birds are considered the source of my
> Giardia infection (both my MD and the Vet agree on this) I'm not alarmed
> that one of them is showing a known symptom of the infection. If it was
> something non-Giardia related, THAT, to me, would be an emergency.
> I'm on my third round of Flagyl. The birds and the house dogs have been
> treated twice and will be treated at least once more. It's very difficult
> to get rid of.
>
> > > I think I'll try the Benadryl spray first.
> >
> > Why not at least CALL your avian vet and get HIS opinion? Who's better
> > qualified to make a diagnosis and treat, or recommend a treatment, than
> > your own vet, who knows you and your birds?
>
> He's already treating them, Jack. He's giving them Flagyl for Giardia. I
> just have to get well enough to get them through their next treatment. The
> only thing I can do now is try and relieve Sidekick's itchiness until I
can
> do that.
> I have a whole battery of tests coming up this week, plus doctor's
> appointments, and on Thurs. a surgical procedure that's going to put me
out
> of commission for at least for 48 hours. WHAT do you want me to do?
> --
Do nothing mama. You are not wonderwoman. Get yourself well first because
quite simply *you* are the most important person in your life.
If you don't get well, your pets and family will suffer in the long term.
In the short term, they will be able to make do.
(((((((((MB)))))))))
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| oldmolly |
"Noah Sark" <Ndawg@theark.com> wrote in message
news:3f80b5da_3@corp.newsgroups.com...
> > ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
> QUIT BITCHIN' ABOUT BEING WEAK AND HAVING NO HELP OR "HAVING TO GET WELL"
OR
> FIND THE BIRDS A HOME WHERE THEY WILL BE PROPERLY CARED FOR !!! HAVING
MORE
> PETS THAN YOU ARE ABLE TO CARE FOR IS TANTAMOUNT TO ABUSE!!!!
Oh *do* go away you ignorant little ****. And try to find the caps lock
button on your computer dear as it looks as though you are shouting. Hmm,
what was the old saying about empty vessels making the most noise?
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"oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:Tbdgb.7956$QH3.3554@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net...
>
> "Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message
> news:2S3gb.4308$gA1.1262@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > "High Flight" <jac@apk.net> wrote in message
> > news:blpjqg$cvn$1@plonk.apk.net...
> > > [...]
> > > Why not at least CALL your avian vet and get HIS opinion? Who's
better
> > > qualified to make a diagnosis and treat, or recommend a treatment,
than
> > > your own vet, who knows you and your birds?
> >
> > He's already treating them, Jack. He's giving them Flagyl for Giardia.
I
> > just have to get well enough to get them through their next treatment.
The
> > only thing I can do now is try and relieve Sidekick's itchiness until I
> can
> > do that.
> > I have a whole battery of tests coming up this week, plus doctor's
> > appointments, and on Thurs. a surgical procedure that's going to put me
> out
> > of commission for at least for 48 hours. WHAT do you want me to do?
> > --
> Do nothing mama. You are not wonderwoman. Get yourself well first because
> quite simply *you* are the most important person in your life.
> If you don't get well, your pets and family will suffer in the long
term.
> In the short term, they will be able to make do.
> (((((((((MB)))))))))
(((((((((oldmolly)))))))))
Thanks! That's exactly the way I look at it, too.
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| Crossfire |
"Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message
news:Bs4gb.4398$gA1.3104@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> "Noah Sark" <Ndawg@theark.com> wrote in message
> news:3f80b5da_3@corp.newsgroups.com...
> >
> > "Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message
> > news:H0Cfb.1308$Qy2.191@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > "Toucanldy" <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20031004094207.11891.00000220@mb-m03.aol.com...
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Mamabird" iluvbirds.@directlink..com
> > > > I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small
> bare
> > > > >spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of
a
> > > heavy
> > > > >molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some
> > > feathers.
> > > > >I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they
> > itch.
> > > > >I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze
out
> > the
> > > > >gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put
> some
> > in
> > > > >his water too?
> > > > >TIA!
> > > >
> > > > Just wanted to mention that one of the symptoms of giardia, is
> feather
> > > > plucking.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > >
> > > Yes! This occurred to me last night as well. Problem: I'm too weak
> right
> > > now to start them on another round of treatment. It takes a lot of
> energy
> > > to towel and give meds to 16 birds, (and disinfect 12 cages!)
> especially
> > > when there's no one to help. :(
> > > *I* have to get well before I can do anything for them. I'm really in
a
> > bad
> > > situation...
>
> > QUIT BITCHIN' ABOUT BEING WEAK AND HAVING NO HELP OR "HAVING TO GET
WELL"
> OR
> > FIND THE BIRDS A HOME WHERE THEY WILL BE PROPERLY CARED FOR !!! HAVING
> MORE
> > PETS THAN YOU ARE ABLE TO CARE FOR IS TANTAMOUNT TO ABUSE!!!!
>
> Ah... the king/queen of exclamation points is back!!!!!!!!!
> Let's see... this is your fifth post here and every one of them has been
to
> YELL !!!!!!! insults and accusations!!!!! at me and call me a bitch!!!!!!
> Exactly what have I ever done to you?!!!!
> Did Ravl send you to post this latest tirade?!!!! You're obviously too
> immature to think for yourself!!!!!!
> --
> Mama
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>
I don't know how your financial situation is (none of my business), but
could you possibly afford a sort of petsitter to help you until you are on
your feet again? Perhaps your vet could refer someone or could actually
send a trusted employee out to assess the bird. I know I would feel
comfortable with several of the techs at my vet's office coming to my home.
Just a thought....
I do hope you are feeling better soon and that your bird is ok.
Laurie E.
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| High Flight |
Mamabird <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> says...
>> > I think I'll try the Benadryl spray first.
>>
>> Why not at least CALL your avian vet and get HIS opinion? Who's better
>> qualified to make a diagnosis and treat, or recommend a treatment, than
>> your own vet, who knows you and your birds?
>
> He's already treating them, Jack. He's giving them Flagyl for Giardia. I
> just have to get well enough to get them through their next treatment. The
> only thing I can do now is try and relieve Sidekick's itchiness until I can
> do that.
> I have a whole battery of tests coming up this week, plus doctor's
> appointments, and on Thurs. a surgical procedure that's going to put me out
> of commission for at least for 48 hours. WHAT do you want me to do?
I would just again suggest calling him, and reciting the original
paragraph you posted here, and see what he recommends.
Jack
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| Mamabird |
"Crossfire" <ih8jnkmail@nomysterymeat.com> wrote in message
news:3f800226_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>
> "Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message
> news:Bs4gb.4398$gA1.3104@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > > > Toucanldy wrote...
> > > > > Just wanted to mention that one of the symptoms of giardia, is
> > feather
> > > > > plucking.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Yes! This occurred to me last night as well. Problem: I'm too weak
> > right
> > > > now to start them on another round of treatment. It takes a lot of
> > energy
> > > > to towel and give meds to 16 birds, (and disinfect 12 cages!)
> > especially
> > > > when there's no one to help. :(
> > > > *I* have to get well before I can do anything for them. I'm really
in
> a
> > > bad
> > > > situation...
> >
> I don't know how your financial situation is (none of my business), but
> could you possibly afford a sort of petsitter to help you until you are
on
> your feet again? Perhaps your vet could refer someone or could actually
> send a trusted employee out to assess the bird. I know I would feel
> comfortable with several of the techs at my vet's office coming to my
home.
> Just a thought....
> I do hope you are feeling better soon and that your bird is ok.
> Laurie E.
Hi Laurie,
I live in a very small town and there are no pet sitters. I've called most
of the local vets in the past and none of them could refer anyone. Oddly
enough, my sister pet sits... but unfortunately, she lives in another
state! LOL
My avian vet is in a large town nearly 60 miles away (no avian vets
locally), so sending out a tech wouldn't be feasible.
My divorce will be final on Wed. so I'm going to be on a fixed income...
and the medical bills are piling up!
Your ideas are sound, and very much appreciated, but they won't work for my
situation.
I'm sure Sidekick will be fine, as will the others, once we get this
Giardia problem cleared up. Hopefully soon!
Many thanks for your kind thoughts...
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| Phil Foreskin |
"Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message news:<uspfb.662$gA1.374@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
> I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small bare
> spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a heavy
> molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some feathers.
> I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they itch.
> I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out the
> gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put some in
> his water too?
> TIA!
I hope your bird drops dead, you bird-loving freak. Go get a real
pet...an AKC registered dog, asshole.
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| Toucanldy |
>Subject: Re: Itchy Conure
>From: foreskin@familyworship.net (Phil Foreskin)
>I hope your bird drops dead, you bird-loving freak. Go get a real
>pet...an AKC registered dog, asshole.
Why don't you pull that foreskin over your head, then you'll be a real
dickhead.
Regards
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| Mamabird |
> >Subject: Re: Itchy Conure
> >From: foreskin@familyworship.net (Phil Foreskin)
> <snip>
"Toucanldy" <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote in message...
> Why don't you pull that foreskin over your head, then you'll be a real
> dickhead.
>
> Regards
GASP!!! TCL said a naughty! <G>
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| Debbie Krug |
"Toucanldy" <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031007085031.02306.00000317@mb-m01.aol.com...
> >Subject: Re: Itchy Conure
> >From: foreskin@familyworship.net (Phil Foreskin)
>
> >I hope your bird drops dead, you bird-loving freak. Go get a real
> >pet...an AKC registered dog, asshole.
>
> Why don't you pull that foreskin over your head, then you'll be a real
> dickhead.
>
> Regards
TCL!!! I am surprised at you, but that was too funny.
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Hey Phil, who yanked your chain? Obviously you do not know the whole story
of what has been going on with this "case."
Hermans
"Phil Foreskin" <foreskin@familyworship.net> wrote in message
news:912f5f5a.0310070359.dfdf9b4@posting.google.com...
> "Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message
news:<uspfb.662$gA1.374@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
> > I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small bare
> > spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a
heavy
> > molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some
feathers.
> > I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they itch.
> > I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out the
> > gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put some in
> > his water too?
> > TIA!
>
> I hope your bird drops dead, you bird-loving freak. Go get a real
> pet...an AKC registered dog, asshole.
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Good one ToucanLady.
Herman
"Toucanldy" <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Subject: Re: Itchy Conure
> >From: foreskin@familyworship.net (Phil Foreskin)
>
> >I hope your bird drops dead, you bird-loving freak. Go get a real
> >pet...an AKC registered dog, asshole.
>
> Why don't you pull that foreskin over your head, then you'll be a real
> dickhead.
>
> Regards
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| Crossfire |
"Phil Foreskin" <foreskin@familyworship.net> wrote in message
news:912f5f5a.0310070359.dfdf9b4@posting.google.com...
> "Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message
news:<uspfb.662$gA1.374@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
> > I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small bare
> > spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a
heavy
> > molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some
feathers.
> > I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they itch.
> > I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out the
> > gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put some in
> > his water too?
> > TIA!
>
> I hope your bird drops dead, you bird-loving freak. Go get a real
> pet...an AKC registered dog, asshole.
Is this your signature? Because it isn't very creative when you use the
same retort at least 3 times to different people. Especially when you
advise people in the UK to get an American Kennel Club dog. Why don't you
and your little buddies go back to humping legs in your dog newsgroup?
Don't bother telling me to get a real pet, because I have dogs already.
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| Crossfire |
"Mamabird" <spam@goaway.com> wrote in message
news:s_ogb.517$av5.0@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> "Crossfire" <ih8jnkmail@nomysterymeat.com> wrote in message
> news:3f800226_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >
> > "Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message
> > news:Bs4gb.4398$gA1.3104@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > > > > Toucanldy wrote...
> > > > > > Just wanted to mention that one of the symptoms of giardia, is
> > > feather
> > > > > > plucking.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes! This occurred to me last night as well. Problem: I'm too weak
> > > right
> > > > > now to start them on another round of treatment. It takes a lot of
> > > energy
> > > > > to towel and give meds to 16 birds, (and disinfect 12 cages!)
> > > especially
> > > > > when there's no one to help. :(
> > > > > *I* have to get well before I can do anything for them. I'm really
> in
> > a
> > > > bad
> > > > > situation...
> > >
> > I don't know how your financial situation is (none of my business), but
> > could you possibly afford a sort of petsitter to help you until you are
> on
> > your feet again? Perhaps your vet could refer someone or could actually
> > send a trusted employee out to assess the bird. I know I would feel
> > comfortable with several of the techs at my vet's office coming to my
> home.
> > Just a thought....
> > I do hope you are feeling better soon and that your bird is ok.
> > Laurie E.
>
> Hi Laurie,
> I live in a very small town and there are no pet sitters. I've called most
> of the local vets in the past and none of them could refer anyone. Oddly
> enough, my sister pet sits... but unfortunately, she lives in another
> state! LOL
> My avian vet is in a large town nearly 60 miles away (no avian vets
> locally), so sending out a tech wouldn't be feasible.
> My divorce will be final on Wed. so I'm going to be on a fixed income...
> and the medical bills are piling up!
> Your ideas are sound, and very much appreciated, but they won't work for
my
> situation.
> I'm sure Sidekick will be fine, as will the others, once we get this
> Giardia problem cleared up. Hopefully soon!
>
> Many thanks for your kind thoughts...
> --
> Mama
> ~^~^~^~ Visit Mamabird's Nest: <http://iluvbirds.tripod.com/> And My
> Photo Albums at: <http://photos.yahoo.com/iluvbirdz>
> ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
>
>
Well, I tried....I do hope all goes well for you tomorrow. As a former
recipient of spousal spit, I do support the recommendation that you try to
seek out some form of counseling as I did. If you can't afford it,though, I
could recommend some good books to read to help. Once tomorrow is over, I'm
sure your mental state will be better and that just could help your physical
condition to some degree. Best wishes for your big day!
Laurie E.
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| oldmolly |
"Toucanldy" <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031007085031.02306.00000317@mb-m01.aol.com...
> >Subject: Re: Itchy Conure
> >From: foreskin@familyworship.net (Phil Foreskin)
>
> >I hope your bird drops dead, you bird-loving freak. Go get a real
> >pet...an AKC registered dog, asshole.
>
> Why don't you pull that foreskin over your head, then you'll be a real
> dickhead.
>
> Regards
ROFLMAO!!!!!
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| James Mayer |
On 7 Oct 2003 04:59:05 -0700, foreskin@familyworship.net (Phil
Foreskin) wrote:
>"Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message news:<uspfb.662$gA1.374@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
>> I just this evening noticed that my Dusky, Sidekick, has some small bare
>> spots on his chest and tummy. All the birds are just coming out of a heavy
>> molt, so I didn't realize he's apparently been pulling out some feathers.
>> I watched him for awhile and he's chewing at those spots like they itch.
>> I have some Aloe Vera gelcaps here... wondering if I can squeeze out the
>> gel and rub it on his "itchies?" And would it do any good to put some in
>> his water too?
>> TIA!
>
>I hope your bird drops dead, you bird-loving freak. Go get a real
>pet...an AKC registered dog, asshole.
Is your cousin Richard Cranium?
I wonder how your Shi Tzu would fare against the Siberian I had?
2 minutes, maybe?
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"James Mayer" <jfma@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message >
> I wonder how your Shi Tzu would fare against the Siberian I had?
> 2 minutes, maybe?
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Dog fighting is not something to joke about. Besides I *have* a shih-tzu
and she has more guts than sense . She will even start a fight with my giant
schnauzer.
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