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Wheeler
I am confused here, help an old man out a bit will you. You obviously do
not want to learn about birds, you obviously do not want to make friends,
you obviously have nothing of value to share here,,,,,
So why do you keep coming back? Unless you enjoy being castigated one would
think you could find a more hospitable place to play.

Bob Wheeler
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Mamabird
"Wheeler" <rivercst@pacifier.com> wrote in message
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> I am confused here, help an old man out a bit will you. You obviously do
> not want to learn about birds, you obviously do not want to make friends,
> you obviously have nothing of value to share here,,,,,
> So why do you keep coming back? Unless you enjoy being castigated one

would
> think you could find a more hospitable place to play.
>
> Bob Wheeler


I think Tony came here believing that he'd blow us all away with his "vast
bird knowledge." He thought we'd all fall at his feet in awe; instead we
knocked him off his self-constructed pedestal when he started giving out
bad/dangerous information. That made him mad, and now he's hanging around
just to get revenge... and probably still hoping that somehow, someday,
he'll be recognized as the bird expert he thinks he is.
Just my opinion.

Liquid Memory
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:48:54 -0800, "Wheeler" <rivercst@pacifier.com>
wrote:

>I am confused here, help an old man out a bit will you. You obviously do
>not want to learn about birds


Good Opinion, makes me laugh. I would say the same thing to you, but
you regulars KNOW IT ALL! Anyone that has any insight at all gets
crap for the rest of the time that they are on here. And any new
users that have problems with their birds, gets called an idiot,
moron, or the ever popular, take it to an avian vet stupid. These
newsgroups were designed to try and help people, not for personal
flaming or vulgar language.

> you obviously do not want to make friends,


Make friends on here, oh yeah, that would be a good idea, then my
birds will be yelling vulgarity all day long, and calling everybody
stupid moron. At least if nothing else, I have helped these
newsgroups out alot. I get all the flame and then you answer people
more intelligently. Even the guy that starved his birds for 3 days,
got less flaming than me posting iceberg lettuce was poisonous, which
it is not. Had to research that on my own cause none of you would
provide any proof, just that I was an Idiot and Moron. Its kind of
funny how the most extreme gets almost ignored, and I get more
attention than anything else. All because I throw crap back at the
people that throw crap at me. If people would stop throwing crap my
way, then I would stop throwing it back at them.

>you obviously have nothing of value to share here,,,,,


Why would I want to share my information here, so you people can tear
it apart, rewrite it, and try to make me look like a moron. If I have
a reply to a person, I e-mail it. Alot simpler, then I don't have to
reply to posts that lead nowhere, and has no relevant information to
the original post.

>So why do you keep coming back? Unless you enjoy being castigated one would
>think you could find a more hospitable place to play.
>
>Bob Wheeler



Do you think that I am going to let a bunch of bullies, throwing
around sarcasm, scare me away from trying to help people out . You
got a warped sense of what newsgroups are supposed to be like. All I
have seen in the last few months is a bunch of castigated people
writing messages and I have been giving thief castigated attitude back
to them. If someone taught me something new that I did not know, or
was wrong on, then I told them Thanks and went on. You people keep it
going and going and going and going, so I have no choice to keep it
going. You throw crap at me and I am going to throw that crap back.
If you throw crap at me with some relevant information, then I will
look at that information, weigh it, and tell you either Thanks, I
learned something new, or give your castigated crap back with links to
information that say you are wrong and this is why. If the crap must
be a part of the message, then so be it. But I think everyone would
prefer a post where some relevant information and less crap is
preferable, this would help us to all learn something new.

Tony
Liquid Memory
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:18:33 GMT, "Mamabird"
<iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote:

>"Wheeler" <rivercst@pacifier.com> wrote in message
>news:vngok7e9hiisbe@corp.supernews.com...
>> I am confused here, help an old man out a bit will you. You obviously do
>> not want to learn about birds, you obviously do not want to make friends,
>> you obviously have nothing of value to share here,,,,,
>> So why do you keep coming back? Unless you enjoy being castigated one

>would
>> think you could find a more hospitable place to play.
>>
>> Bob Wheeler

>
>I think Tony came here believing that he'd blow us all away with his "vast
>bird knowledge." He thought we'd all fall at his feet in awe; instead we
>knocked him off his self-constructed pedestal when he started giving out
>bad/dangerous information.


Mamabird, don't place me in the foot steps of your soon to be ex. I
am in no way anywhere near him or come close to the likes of him. You
do not know me, and I have already stated numerous times that I don't
know everything and wish to learn. I am not up on my little pedestal
thinking that I am in any way smarter than you. We all have our
personal experiences and this is what most of us have to go on. If
all I get is flaming from you people and no relevant information as to
say "What so-called dangerous information that I give out." then I
won't be able to learn anything, just that you people are mean, cruel,
and definitely have no people skills.

>That made him mad, and now he's hanging around
>just to get revenge...


From my first post to now, I have been bullied by you people, and I am
not going to back down from someone like you. If you are going to be
so one sided, then prove your point, maybe I will learn, and then
again, maybe I can teach you something. I am willing to do the
research if you have a valid point, but if you want to keep spewing
your crap around, I DON'T WANT IT, and I will spew it right back at
you.

>he'll be recognized as the bird expert he thinks he is.


I will say this for the upteenth time, I AM NO BIRD EXPERT, nobody is.
There is not one person on the planet that can say they know
everything about birds. What their personalities are. How they will
react to each circumstance. What foods they will like. Or what to do
with a problem bird. Each circumstance is different and makes each
and every bird different. There are no two birds in this world that
act exactly alike, and as such, no bird is going to react the same way
in the same circumstance. This is fact and truth, you want to say I
am wrong, then you are delusional and need to seek professional help.
If I say something, it is my opinion or my experience, it is not
written in stone. So it is up to the reader to decide what in their
opinion would be right. You people that come against me are so
self-centered, and one-sided, it makes me wonder if you will ever
learn anything new, or if you will stick to your personal experiences
and say, "This is the norm for any bird, and it should be done this
way. If you do it any other way, you don't deserve to own birds."
You people need some serious help.

Tony
Stash

"Liquid Memory" <liqbbs@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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<gratuitous, self indulgent whining and semi coherent rambling snipped>

> Make friends on here, oh yeah, that would be a good idea, then my
> birds will be yelling vulgarity all day long, and calling everybody
> stupid moron.


Whilst enlightening us Philistines with your remarkable nuggets of wisdom,
perhaps you would be good enough to explain how your birds' vocabularies
could possibly be contingent on the degree of cordiality encountered by
you in this newsgroup.

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Wheeler
Do you have a dictionary, look up the word castigated, please.

Bob W

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"Liquid Memory" <liqbbs@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:3ktinv4msn6h90ft9phliqqckfpjh4b2p7@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:48:54 -0800, "Wheeler" <rivercst@pacifier.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I am confused here, help an old man out a bit will you. You obviously do
> >not want to learn about birds

>
> Good Opinion, makes me laugh. I would say the same thing to you, but
> you regulars KNOW IT ALL! Anyone that has any insight at all gets
> crap for the rest of the time that they are on here. And any new
> users that have problems with their birds, gets called an idiot,
> moron, or the ever popular, take it to an avian vet stupid. These
> newsgroups were designed to try and help people, not for personal
> flaming or vulgar language.
>
> > you obviously do not want to make friends,

>
> Make friends on here, oh yeah, that would be a good idea, then my
> birds will be yelling vulgarity all day long, and calling everybody
> stupid moron. At least if nothing else, I have helped these
> newsgroups out alot. I get all the flame and then you answer people
> more intelligently. Even the guy that starved his birds for 3 days,
> got less flaming than me posting iceberg lettuce was poisonous, which
> it is not. Had to research that on my own cause none of you would
> provide any proof, just that I was an Idiot and Moron. Its kind of
> funny how the most extreme gets almost ignored, and I get more
> attention than anything else. All because I throw crap back at the
> people that throw crap at me. If people would stop throwing crap my
> way, then I would stop throwing it back at them.
>
> >you obviously have nothing of value to share here,,,,,

>
> Why would I want to share my information here, so you people can tear
> it apart, rewrite it, and try to make me look like a moron. If I have
> a reply to a person, I e-mail it. Alot simpler, then I don't have to
> reply to posts that lead nowhere, and has no relevant information to
> the original post.
>
> >So why do you keep coming back? Unless you enjoy being castigated one

would
> >think you could find a more hospitable place to play.
> >
> >Bob Wheeler

>
>
> Do you think that I am going to let a bunch of bullies, throwing
> around sarcasm, scare me away from trying to help people out . You
> got a warped sense of what newsgroups are supposed to be like. All I
> have seen in the last few months is a bunch of castigated people
> writing messages and I have been giving thief castigated attitude back
> to them. If someone taught me something new that I did not know, or
> was wrong on, then I told them Thanks and went on. You people keep it
> going and going and going and going, so I have no choice to keep it
> going. You throw crap at me and I am going to throw that crap back.
> If you throw crap at me with some relevant information, then I will
> look at that information, weigh it, and tell you either Thanks, I
> learned something new, or give your castigated crap back with links to
> information that say you are wrong and this is why. If the crap must
> be a part of the message, then so be it. But I think everyone would
> prefer a post where some relevant information and less crap is
> preferable, this would help us to all learn something new.
>
> Tony



Dave Bugg
Liquid Memory wrote:

Absolutely nothing of consequence. The RPB resident punching bag continues
to strengthen his hold on his hard won position.


Marco & Chuck

"Liquid Memory" <liqbbs@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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<snip>

....And today's post is brought to you by the word "castigated".
:P
Marco
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jberger
"Liquid Memory" <liqbbs@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:3ktinv4msn6h90ft9phliqqckfpjh4b2p7@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:48:54 -0800, "Wheeler" <rivercst@pacifier.com>
> wrote:
> ..............
> >I am confused here, help an old man out a bit will you. You obviously do
> >not want to learn about birds

> ..............
> >So why do you keep coming back? Unless you enjoy being castigated one

would
> >think you could find a more hospitable place to play.
> >
> >Bob Wheeler

>
>
> Do you think that I am going to let a bunch of bullies, throwing
> around sarcasm, scare me away from trying to help people out . You
> got a warped sense of what newsgroups are supposed to be like. All I
> have seen in the last few months is a bunch of castigated people
> writing messages and I have been giving thief castigated attitude back
> to them. If someone taught me something new that I did not know, or
> was wrong on, then I told them Thanks and went on. You people keep it
> going and going and going and going, so I have no choice to keep it
> going. You throw crap at me and I am going to throw that crap back.
> If you throw crap at me with some relevant information, then I will
> look at that information, weigh it, and tell you either Thanks, I
> learned something new, or give your castigated crap back with links to
> information that say you are wrong and this is why. If the crap must
> be a part of the message, then so be it. But I think everyone would
> prefer a post where some relevant information and less crap is
> preferable, this would help us to all learn something new.
>
> Tony


Here's an interesting link to a website that might give us all a little
insight as to our good friend, Tony Packman:

http://www.healthyplace.com/communi...journal_18.html

To quote:
"7. Finally, the narcissist is a latent masochist. He seeks punishment,
*CASTIGATION* and ex-communication. This self-destruction is the only way to
validate powerful voices he internalized as a child ("you are a bad, rotten,
hopeless child").
As you can easily see, the narcissistic landscape is fraught with
contradictions. The Narcissist depends on people - but hates and despises
them. He wants to control them unconditionally - but is also looking to
punish himself savagely. He is terrified of persecution ("persecutory
delusions") - but seek the company of his own "persecutors" compulsively."
[emphasis added]

Mental health... do you know where your mind is at?

--Ocham



Mamabird
"Liquid Memory" <liqbbs@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:q52jnvsel27q6fnkegk3t7s6bg5rvp4l6s@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:18:33 GMT, "Mamabird"
> <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote:
>
> >"Wheeler" <rivercst@pacifier.com> wrote in message
> >news:vngok7e9hiisbe@corp.supernews.com...
> >> I am confused here, help an old man out a bit will you. You obviously

do
> >> not want to learn about birds, you obviously do not want to make

friends,
> >> you obviously have nothing of value to share here,,,,,
> >> So why do you keep coming back? Unless you enjoy being castigated one

> >would
> >> think you could find a more hospitable place to play.
> >>
> >> Bob Wheeler

> >
> >I think Tony came here believing that he'd blow us all away with his

"vast
> >bird knowledge." He thought we'd all fall at his feet in awe; instead

we
> >knocked him off his self-constructed pedestal when he started giving out
> >bad/dangerous information.

>
> Mamabird, don't place me in the foot steps of your soon to be ex. I
> am in no way anywhere near him or come close to the likes of him. You
> do not know me, and I have already stated numerous times that I don't
> know everything and wish to learn. I am not up on my little pedestal
> thinking that I am in any way smarter than you. We all have our
> personal experiences and this is what most of us have to go on. If
> all I get is flaming from you people and no relevant information as to
> say "What so-called dangerous information that I give out." then I
> won't be able to learn anything, just that you people are mean, cruel,
> and definitely have no people skills.


You're freakin' insane.
--
Mama
~^~^~^~ Visit Mamabird's Nest: <http://iluvbirds.tripod.com/> And My
Photo Albums at: <http://photos.yahoo.com/iluvbirdz>
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

Ray

"Mamabird" <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote in message
news:xcqeb.10633$NX3.6044@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> "Liquid Memory" <liqbbs@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:q52jnvsel27q6fnkegk3t7s6bg5rvp4l6s@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:18:33 GMT, "Mamabird"
> > <iluvbirds.@directlink..com> wrote:
> >
> > >"Wheeler" <rivercst@pacifier.com> wrote in message
> > >news:vngok7e9hiisbe@corp.supernews.com...
> > >> I am confused here, help an old man out a bit will you. You

obviously
> do
> > >> not want to learn about birds, you obviously do not want to make

> friends,
> > >> you obviously have nothing of value to share here,,,,,
> > >> So why do you keep coming back? Unless you enjoy being castigated

one
> > >would
> > >> think you could find a more hospitable place to play.
> > >>
> > >> Bob Wheeler
> > >
> > >I think Tony came here believing that he'd blow us all away with his

> "vast
> > >bird knowledge." He thought we'd all fall at his feet in awe; instead

> we
> > >knocked him off his self-constructed pedestal when he started giving

out
> > >bad/dangerous information.

> >
> > Mamabird, don't place me in the foot steps of your soon to be ex. I
> > am in no way anywhere near him or come close to the likes of him. You
> > do not know me, and I have already stated numerous times that I don't
> > know everything and wish to learn. I am not up on my little pedestal
> > thinking that I am in any way smarter than you. We all have our
> > personal experiences and this is what most of us have to go on. If
> > all I get is flaming from you people and no relevant information as to
> > say "What so-called dangerous information that I give out." then I
> > won't be able to learn anything, just that you people are mean, cruel,
> > and definitely have no people skills.

>
> You're freakin' insane.
> --
> Mama


He's now quoting to us what we have already told him.
Birds are individuals!! tony didnt seem to grasp that bit of info not so
long ago.
He is more than just an IDIOT, like you say Mama he is insane.
Ray
>
> ~^~^~^~ Visit Mamabird's Nest: <http://iluvbirds.tripod.com/> And My
> Photo Albums at: <http://photos.yahoo.com/iluvbirdz>
> ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
>



Ray

"jberger" <jberger@sprynet.com> wrote in message
news:bld3lb$askns$1@ID-165095.news.uni-berlin.de...
> "Liquid Memory" <liqbbs@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:3ktinv4msn6h90ft9phliqqckfpjh4b2p7@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:48:54 -0800, "Wheeler" <rivercst@pacifier.com>
> > wrote:
> > ..............
> > >I am confused here, help an old man out a bit will you. You obviously

do
> > >not want to learn about birds

> > ..............
> > >So why do you keep coming back? Unless you enjoy being castigated one

> would
> > >think you could find a more hospitable place to play.
> > >
> > >Bob Wheeler

> >
> >
> > Do you think that I am going to let a bunch of bullies, throwing
> > around sarcasm, scare me away from trying to help people out . You
> > got a warped sense of what newsgroups are supposed to be like. All I
> > have seen in the last few months is a bunch of castigated people
> > writing messages and I have been giving thief castigated attitude back
> > to them. If someone taught me something new that I did not know, or
> > was wrong on, then I told them Thanks and went on. You people keep it
> > going and going and going and going, so I have no choice to keep it
> > going. You throw crap at me and I am going to throw that crap back.
> > If you throw crap at me with some relevant information, then I will
> > look at that information, weigh it, and tell you either Thanks, I
> > learned something new, or give your castigated crap back with links to
> > information that say you are wrong and this is why. If the crap must
> > be a part of the message, then so be it. But I think everyone would
> > prefer a post where some relevant information and less crap is
> > preferable, this would help us to all learn something new.
> >
> > Tony

>
> Here's an interesting link to a website that might give us all a little
> insight as to our good friend, Tony Packman:
>
>

http://www.healthyplace.com/communi.../narcissism/jou
rnal_18.html
>
> To quote:
> "7. Finally, the narcissist is a latent masochist. He seeks punishment,
> *CASTIGATION* and ex-communication. This self-destruction is the only way

to
> validate powerful voices he internalized as a child ("you are a bad,

rotten,
> hopeless child").
> As you can easily see, the narcissistic landscape is fraught with
> contradictions. The Narcissist depends on people - but hates and despises
> them. He wants to control them unconditionally - but is also looking to
> punish himself savagely. He is terrified of persecution ("persecutory
> delusions") - but seek the company of his own "persecutors" compulsively."
> [emphasis added]
>
> Mental health... do you know where your mind is at?
>
> --Ocham
>
> Nice one..

Ray
>





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