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| Nefrodar |
Hi there
Our grey tiel is subject to abnormally long beaks. We trim it for him as
often as necessary. We have cuddlebones, wooden toys, mineral blocks, treat
sticks (nutrition).
Usually, we're dealing with the upper beak. Lately, the lower beak has grown
such that the mouth alignment is off. Imagine your lower jaw thrust forward,
lower teeth ahead of your upper teeth and then, over a bit to your left.
That is where the point of the lower beak is sitting.
We have an appointment with a vet to trim the beak so he can at least eat
properly. I don't feel confident enough to do it myself. In the meantime,
any thoughts as to why the beak abnormality? Kidneys? Liver?
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| NewsUser |
Liver disease? PBFD? Tumor?
"Nefrodar" <nefrodar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi there
>
> Our grey tiel is subject to abnormally long beaks. We trim it for him as
> often as necessary. We have cuddlebones, wooden toys, mineral blocks,
treat
> sticks (nutrition).
>
> Usually, we're dealing with the upper beak. Lately, the lower beak has
grown
> such that the mouth alignment is off. Imagine your lower jaw thrust
forward,
> lower teeth ahead of your upper teeth and then, over a bit to your left.
> That is where the point of the lower beak is sitting.
>
> We have an appointment with a vet to trim the beak so he can at least eat
> properly. I don't feel confident enough to do it myself. In the meantime,
> any thoughts as to why the beak abnormality? Kidneys? Liver?
>
>
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| Shannon |
Really?! My cockatiel's beak has done that since he was weaned... I've
never taken him to the vet for it though, I hope it's not a serious matter,
we just trim it every month.
Shannon
"NewsUser" <nospam@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Liver disease? PBFD? Tumor?
>
> "Nefrodar" <nefrodar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ewAVa.584907$Vi5.14459343@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > Hi there
> >
> > Our grey tiel is subject to abnormally long beaks. We trim it for him as
> > often as necessary. We have cuddlebones, wooden toys, mineral blocks,
> treat
> > sticks (nutrition).
> >
> > Usually, we're dealing with the upper beak. Lately, the lower beak has
> grown
> > such that the mouth alignment is off. Imagine your lower jaw thrust
> forward,
> > lower teeth ahead of your upper teeth and then, over a bit to your left.
> > That is where the point of the lower beak is sitting.
> >
> > We have an appointment with a vet to trim the beak so he can at least
eat
> > properly. I don't feel confident enough to do it myself. In the
meantime,
> > any thoughts as to why the beak abnormality? Kidneys? Liver?
> >
> >
>
>
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| High Flight |
Nefrodar <nefrodar@hotmail.com> says...
> We have cuddlebones,
How many do you need? :P
Jack
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| Mamabird |
You should never have to trim the beak regularly on any healthy bird. You
need to take your tiel to an avian vet to see if there's a problem.
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"Shannon" <shannon@schwabalaw.com> wrote in message
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> Really?! My cockatiel's beak has done that since he was weaned... I've
> never taken him to the vet for it though, I hope it's not a serious
matter,
> we just trim it every month.
>
> Shannon
>
> "NewsUser" <nospam@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:vidms6ssd7tmb4@corp.supernews.com...
> > Liver disease? PBFD? Tumor?
> >
> > "Nefrodar" <nefrodar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ewAVa.584907$Vi5.14459343@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > Hi there
> > >
> > > Our grey tiel is subject to abnormally long beaks. We trim it for him
as
> > > often as necessary. We have cuddlebones, wooden toys, mineral blocks,
> > treat
> > > sticks (nutrition).
> > >
> > > Usually, we're dealing with the upper beak. Lately, the lower beak
has
> > grown
> > > such that the mouth alignment is off. Imagine your lower jaw thrust
> > forward,
> > > lower teeth ahead of your upper teeth and then, over a bit to your
left.
> > > That is where the point of the lower beak is sitting.
> > >
> > > We have an appointment with a vet to trim the beak so he can at least
> eat
> > > properly. I don't feel confident enough to do it myself. In the
> meantime,
> > > any thoughts as to why the beak abnormality? Kidneys? Liver?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| NewsUser |
You should definitely have the bird checked by an avian vet. Are you feeding
an all seed diet?
"Shannon" <shannon@schwabalaw.com> wrote in message
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> Really?! My cockatiel's beak has done that since he was weaned... I've
> never taken him to the vet for it though, I hope it's not a serious
matter,
> we just trim it every month.
>
> Shannon
>
> "NewsUser" <nospam@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:vidms6ssd7tmb4@corp.supernews.com...
> > Liver disease? PBFD? Tumor?
> >
> > "Nefrodar" <nefrodar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ewAVa.584907$Vi5.14459343@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > Hi there
> > >
> > > Our grey tiel is subject to abnormally long beaks. We trim it for him
as
> > > often as necessary. We have cuddlebones, wooden toys, mineral blocks,
> > treat
> > > sticks (nutrition).
> > >
> > > Usually, we're dealing with the upper beak. Lately, the lower beak has
> > grown
> > > such that the mouth alignment is off. Imagine your lower jaw thrust
> > forward,
> > > lower teeth ahead of your upper teeth and then, over a bit to your
left.
> > > That is where the point of the lower beak is sitting.
> > >
> > > We have an appointment with a vet to trim the beak so he can at least
> eat
> > > properly. I don't feel confident enough to do it myself. In the
> meantime,
> > > any thoughts as to why the beak abnormality? Kidneys? Liver?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| oldmolly |
"Nefrodar" <nefrodar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi there
>
> Our grey tiel is subject to abnormally long beaks. We trim it for him as
> often as necessary. We have cuddlebones, wooden toys, mineral blocks,
treat
> sticks (nutrition).
Cuttlefish bone is not really hard enough to wear a beak down.Note, it
isn't a cuddlebone ;0)
This beak growth is totally abnormal and I would be taking the bird to a
vet for some blood tests to check liver function among other things.
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| oldmolly |
"High Flight" <jac@apk.net> wrote in message
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> Nefrodar <nefrodar@hotmail.com> says...
> > We have cuddlebones,
>
> How many do you need? :P
>
I think I need a cuddle, the dogs can have the bones.
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| High Flight |
oldmolly <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> says...
>> > We have cuddlebones,
>>
>> How many do you need? :P
>
> I think I need a cuddle, the dogs can have the bones.
Try alt.cuddle Believe it.......... or not.
Jack
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| ^^ Bex ^^ |
On 29 Jul 2003 22:09:11 GMT, High Flight <jac@apk.net> wrote:
>oldmolly <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> says...
>>> > We have cuddlebones,
>>>
>>> How many do you need? :P
>>
>> I think I need a cuddle, the dogs can have the bones.
>
>Try alt.cuddle Believe it.......... or not.
I've seen that, it's not as bad as the good morning one!
Bex
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| Nefrodar |
Thanks for all your input. Rather than responding to each person, I'll say
here that we took "Farley" to the vet today. His beak was trimmed, both top
and bottom. Looks much better. Doesn't have that "tusk". Vet says liver
function is not responsible. Vets says monitor beak over the next month or
two.
I agree that one shouldn't have to trim their tiel's beaks but that's only
my opinion.
I forgot to mention that he has a companion tiel, "Kirby" (another male);
kind of like brothers.This why we have more than one cuddlebone. They insist
on being together but they sometimes fight . Kirby doesn't require the
maintenance that Farley does. He has the same nutrition and lifestyle as
Farley. I don't know their actual ages but I believe Farley is above 10 yrs
old and Kirby is much younger. Maybe old age is responsible? Kirby does seem
to have more youthful energy.
"Nefrodar" <nefrodar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi there
>
> Our grey tiel is subject to abnormally long beaks. We trim it for him as
> often as necessary. We have cuddlebones, wooden toys, mineral blocks,
treat
> sticks (nutrition).
>
> Usually, we're dealing with the upper beak. Lately, the lower beak has
grown
> such that the mouth alignment is off. Imagine your lower jaw thrust
forward,
> lower teeth ahead of your upper teeth and then, over a bit to your left.
> That is where the point of the lower beak is sitting.
>
> We have an appointment with a vet to trim the beak so he can at least eat
> properly. I don't feel confident enough to do it myself. In the meantime,
> any thoughts as to why the beak abnormality? Kidneys? Liver?
>
>
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| oldmolly |
"Nefrodar" <nefrodar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for all your input. Rather than responding to each person, I'll say
> here that we took "Farley" to the vet today. His beak was trimmed, both
top
> and bottom. Looks much better. Doesn't have that "tusk". Vet says liver
> function is not responsible.
Unless the vet took a blood test, he cannot say that for sure. You can't
tell by looking at the beak.
Vets says monitor beak over the next month or
> two.
>
> I agree that one shouldn't have to trim their tiel's beaks but that's only
> my opinion.
Not only your opinion, it's a fact :0)
>
> I forgot to mention that he has a companion tiel, "Kirby" (another male);
> kind of like brothers.This why we have more than one cuddlebone.
Or cuttlefish bone?
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| Laurie |
"Nefrodar" <nefrodar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Vet says liver
> function is not responsible.
Just curious...did the vet say that liver function is not responsible in
*this* case, and he knows that from tests that he ran on your bird...or that
liver function cannot possibly cause an overgrown beak? If it's the latter,
I would find another vet, preferable one who specializes in birds, as he's
sorely mistaken.
Laurie
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| Nefrodar |
Actually, he isn't our regular vet. All the other avian vets, including our
own, are simultaneously on vacation. However, Farley has improved already.
He is able to eat better and is showing all the positive things that go
along with that i.e. energy, alertness. To your question, I can only speak
for our bird's condition, not in general, and no, no blood tests were done.
"Laurie" <notinthislifetime@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "Nefrodar" <nefrodar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:zlXVa.564942$ro6.12837108@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> Vet says liver
> > function is not responsible.
>
> Just curious...did the vet say that liver function is not responsible in
> *this* case, and he knows that from tests that he ran on your bird...or
that
> liver function cannot possibly cause an overgrown beak? If it's the
latter,
> I would find another vet, preferable one who specializes in birds, as he's
> sorely mistaken.
>
> Laurie
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| Nefrodar |
Thanks again for your reply and concern.
Farley's actually doing ok now. He has more energy and is now chirping more
than ever. Strange that that was all he needed... Sometimes, it is just that
simple.
"Laurie" <notinthislifetime@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "Nefrodar" <nefrodar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5nBWa.581350$3C2.14805734@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > Actually, he isn't our regular vet. All the other avian vets, including
> our
> > own, are simultaneously on vacation. However, Farley has improved
already.
> > He is able to eat better and is showing all the positive things that go
> > along with that i.e. energy, alertness. To your question, I can only
speak
> > for our bird's condition, not in general, and no, no blood tests were
> done.
>
> They would be able to tell if there's liver disease or problems if they
did
> a blood test...and then start some treatment. It's better to get to the
> root of the problem than to just keep trimming his beak. Liver disease
will
> shorten his life.
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