Google

pet-manual.co.uk | | Archive > Pet newsgroups > rec.pets.birds

 
First Budgie - CLICK HERE for the Pet Manual Forum Home Page
Ed Lukoski
We just brought our first bird, a baby budgie, allegedly male, home
yesterday afternoon.

He seems a little shocked right now. No chirping, and not very
animated. Spends a lot of time clinging to the bars at the back of
his cage. We're letting him sort of relax with his cage located in a
quiet corner to get used to our home, and I suppose we'll need to
expect him to take a couple of days to warm up to his new
surroundings. I did see him take seeds from his dish late last night,
though he seems to be ignoring the small bits of cherries and
strawberries I've left for him. I'm hoping that the fact that he's
eating at all is a good sign.

But my sister's birds chirp and peep all the time and seem to have a
generally more animated demeanor. Is it too soon for me to start
worrying about his behavior? Or is it reasonable to expect he'll need
a little more "chillin' time" before he's feeling his right self?

Also, I'm curious about trimming the flight feathers. He was clipped
at the shop, and I'm wondering how frequently this might need to be
repeated?

I have him in a relatively plain little cage right now. Just the
plain-jane $20 wire cage. I'm working at assembling a much more
elaborate home for him with all sorts of neat toys and perches and a
bathtub and all that. I'm leaving him in the plainer cage for now,
because I don't want to keep pestering and alarming him as I add
accessories and build up his fancier home. Should I be in a hurry to
get him into his new digs, or can (should) I take a few days to
acquire toys and putz with the furnishings?
Ed Lukoski
^^ Bex ^^ <bex@darkwave.org.uk> wrote in message news:<rvo7ivs3onhooisjs7vr0lslh3d5qskj26@4ax.com>...
> On 27 Jul 2003 07:02:23 -0700, elukoski@prohealthcare.com (Ed Lukoski)
> wrote:
>
> >We just brought our first bird, a baby budgie, allegedly male, home
> >yesterday afternoon.
> >
> >He seems a little shocked right now. No chirping, and not very
> >animated. Spends a lot of time clinging to the bars at the back of
> >his cage. We're letting him sort of relax with his cage located in a
> >quiet corner to get used to our home, and I suppose we'll need to
> >expect him to take a couple of days to warm up to his new
> >surroundings. I did see him take seeds from his dish late last night,
> >though he seems to be ignoring the small bits of cherries and
> >strawberries I've left for him. I'm hoping that the fact that he's
> >eating at all is a good sign.

>
> I'd try giving him a bit of lettuce (haven't seen many turn down lettuce)
> or a millet spray, and while he's munching talk to him softly and tell him
> how great he is. Putting a mirror in may help, nothings as scary when you
> have company.


Yup, he's going absolutely berzerko over the millet spray. He took a
nip at a slice from a strawberry, but ignored it after it fell to the
bottom of his cage. He doesn't seem interested in the lettuce, but I
suspect NOTHING could compete with that millet spray.

Should I just leave it in there till it's gone, or is it a "treat"
that I should remove in the morning when I clean his cage?

>
> >But my sister's birds chirp and peep all the time and seem to have a
> >generally more animated demeanor. Is it too soon for me to start
> >worrying about his behavior? Or is it reasonable to expect he'll need
> >a little more "chillin' time" before he's feeling his right self?

>
> He will be happy once he stops being scared. You'd be worried to if you
> were in his place.
>
> >Also, I'm curious about trimming the flight feathers. He was clipped
> >at the shop, and I'm wondering how frequently this might need to be
> >repeated?

>
> Wing clipping is mean imho. Neither of my budgies had it done and they
> were/are good flyers and perfect weight. Just make sure you cover
> reflective surfaces like windows.


The breeder recommended it (bird was already clipped anyway) and I may
tolerate the practice till I'm much more able to handle him. It was
quite challenging for me to pick him up the couple of times I needed
to, and I can't imagine how much more difficult it might be if the wee
beastie were a skilled flier. With my luck, if he does have the knack
for learning speech, his first phrase might be "Gotcha ya little
b*stard!"

How long will it take for those feathers to grow back?

>
> >I have him in a relatively plain little cage right now. Just the
> >plain-jane $20 wire cage. I'm working at assembling a much more
> >elaborate home for him with all sorts of neat toys and perches and a
> >bathtub and all that. I'm leaving him in the plainer cage for now,
> >because I don't want to keep pestering and alarming him as I add
> >accessories and build up his fancier home. Should I be in a hurry to
> >get him into his new digs, or can (should) I take a few days to
> >acquire toys and putz with the furnishings?


> Try not to overwhelm him. Introduce one new thing at a time and remember
> that space is more valuable than toys, he'll probably only like certain
> ones. He wont be nervous for long, just until he feel secure about this
> being his new surroundings. Birds can get sick if stressed out too much so
> take it slowly, you'll have years with him so there's no rush.


He's looking a lit more chipper today. I decided to remove about half
of the furnishings I had acquired for the new, larger cage and we
moved him in there earlier today. With the weather being as horrid as
it is I was hard-pressed to provide diversion for my 4 1/2 year-old,
and the cage project did the trick. I'm thinking space may be more
important to him than furnishings, and I can introduce new stuff in
the future to break the monotony.

I also re-located the cage where there's a wall behind it, I read that
that may help him to feel more secure.

> Aww, I love budgies *grin*
>
> Bex
> __________________________________________________
__________________
>
> Pray for that day when you'll leave behind the grey
> Pray for that day when your feet could walk on different soil
>
> http://www.darkwave.org.uk/~bex
> @ update: 14/12/02 @

Starlight
On 27 Jul 2003 07:02:23 -0700, elukoski@prohealthcare.com (Ed Lukoski)
wrote:

From my experience, having owned 5 budgies, he needs time to relax and
get use to a new home. Give him a few weeks....you'll wonder why you
ever thought he was too quiet. ;)

If it were me, I would get him into his permanent cage as soon as
possible. You'll start at step one again when you move him to his
new digs. Budgies really don't need loads of toys like some other
birds. My budgies love their little mirrored perches, where I can
put an occasional treat, or their round mirror with the bell at the
bottom, and a couple toys with bells at the bottom so they can play
and bop. :) Different sized perches, made of different materials,
are good too.

As for foods...in time he will try new things. It takes time for them
to trust new foods. A wet romaine lettuce leaf, clipped to the bars
of the cage, may be inviting.

Spend time just sitting in the room where he is, move slowly, sing,
talk to him, talk to yourself while near him, play music, and soon
he'll be right at home, chirping and budgie-ing around. :)
Becky

^^ Bex ^^
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 23:43:00 GMT, Starlight <homehealth_rnDELETE@yahoo.com>
wrote:


>Spend time just sitting in the room where he is, move slowly, sing,
>talk to him, talk to yourself while near him, play music, and soon
>he'll be right at home, chirping and budgie-ing around. :)


Mine loves it when I sing, I bet my neighbours don't though!

I have a lovely day with Magic the budgie today, lots of talking nose to
beak and he was all cuddly. He's not very tame and since Houdini died he's
let me get closer, he seems to be so pleased for the attention, bless im.

Bex
__________________________________________________
__________________

Pray for that day when you'll leave behind the grey
Pray for that day when your feet could walk on different soil

http://www.darkwave.org.uk/~bex
@ update: 14/12/02 @
oldmolly

"^^ Bex ^^" <bex@darkwave.org.uk> wrote in message
news:rvo7ivs3onhooisjs7vr0lslh3d5qskj26@4ax.com...
> On 27 Jul 2003 07:02:23 -0700, elukoski@prohealthcare.com (Ed Lukoski)
> wrote:
>
> >We just brought our first bird, a baby budgie, allegedly male, home
> >yesterday afternoon.
> >
> >He seems a little shocked right now. No chirping, and not very
> >animated. Spends a lot of time clinging to the bars at the back of
> >his cage. We're letting him sort of relax with his cage located in a
> >quiet corner to get used to our home, and I suppose we'll need to
> >expect him to take a couple of days to warm up to his new
> >surroundings. I did see him take seeds from his dish late last night,
> >though he seems to be ignoring the small bits of cherries and
> >strawberries I've left for him. I'm hoping that the fact that he's
> >eating at all is a good sign.

>
> I'd try giving him a bit of lettuce (haven't seen many turn down lettuce)
> or a millet spray, and while he's munching talk to him softly and tell him
> how great he is. Putting a mirror in may help, nothings as scary when you
> have company.
>
> >But my sister's birds chirp and peep all the time and seem to have a
> >generally more animated demeanor. Is it too soon for me to start
> >worrying about his behavior? Or is it reasonable to expect he'll need
> >a little more "chillin' time" before he's feeling his right self?

>
> He will be happy once he stops being scared. You'd be worried to if you
> were in his place.
>
> >Also, I'm curious about trimming the flight feathers. He was clipped
> >at the shop, and I'm wondering how frequently this might need to be
> >repeated?

>
> Wing clipping is mean imho. Neither of my budgies had it done and they
> were/are good flyers and perfect weight. Just make sure you cover
> reflective surfaces like windows.
>
> >I have him in a relatively plain little cage right now. Just the
> >plain-jane $20 wire cage. I'm working at assembling a much more
> >elaborate home for him with all sorts of neat toys and perches and a
> >bathtub and all that. I'm leaving him in the plainer cage for now,
> >because I don't want to keep pestering and alarming him as I add
> >accessories and build up his fancier home. Should I be in a hurry to
> >get him into his new digs, or can (should) I take a few days to
> >acquire toys and putz with the furnishings?

>
> Try not to overwhelm him. Introduce one new thing at a time and remember
> that space is more valuable than toys, he'll probably only like certain
> ones. He wont be nervous for long, just until he feel secure about this
> being his new surroundings. Birds can get sick if stressed out too much

so
> take it slowly, you'll have years with him so there's no rush.
>
> Aww, I love budgies *grin*
>
> Bex
>

How are you getting on with your budgie Bex? Getting the med's down him ok?


---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 24/07/03


^^ Bex ^^
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:31:48 +0100, "oldmolly" <oldmolly@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>> Aww, I love budgies *grin*
>>
>> Bex
>>

> How are you getting on with your budgie Bex? Getting the med's down him ok?


He's doing so well, I'm so pleased. He's taking the meds himself via his
drinking water (this took a while because he was convinced it would taste
of that horrid Baytril). Tonight for example he asked to come out when I
got in from work, and did several laps of the living room and a lot of
chattering and hopping about on my arm. Magic and I are waiting until his
antibiotic course is over to find him a new friend. It must be lonely when
you are used to constant company. The only set back we had was I had to
remove the Pollys Perches, as he rubbed his nose sore on them trying to
scratch the itch from his liver chucking out toxins. It's healing up well
now.

Thanks for asking :)

Bex
__________________________________________________
__________________

Pray for that day when you'll leave behind the grey
Pray for that day when your feet could walk on different soil

http://www.darkwave.org.uk/~bex
@ update: 14/12/02 @
^^ Bex ^^
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 00:37:53 GMT, "Mamabird" <iluvbirdz.@directlink.net>
wrote:

>"^^ Bex ^^" <bex@darkwave.org.uk> wrote in message
>news:5ep8ivs5clslg2c33kukkijj2no1r2msub@4ax.com...
>>
>> Mine loves it when I sing, I bet my neighbours don't though!
>>
>> I have a lovely day with Magic the budgie today, lots of talking nose to
>> beak and he was all cuddly. He's not very tame and since Houdini died

>he's
>> let me get closer, he seems to be so pleased for the attention, bless im.
>>
>> Bex

>
>Sounds wonderful, Bex. How's Magic's health now - is he doing better? Bless
>him, indeed!


He's doing well thank you, very bright and bouncy, I think he's very glad
that he doesn't feel so ill anymore.

>I had a nice day with my birdies too. I spent all afternoon just hanging
>out with them, playing, snuggling and tickling. And they each got a new
>toy!
>Even Safari, my very shy CAG, ventured out of his cage. I leave all the
>cage doors open while I'm feeding and cleaning up their room everyday, but
>he rarely gets up the nerve to come out. Today he did, and he even let me
>tickle his ears a little.
>
>I turned the radio up and we 'boogied' for awhile too. Yep, very
>satisfying... good quality time spent with my babies.


Houdini liked to dance with me but Magic thinks I'm a nutter I think!

Aww, birds are such great company, I'd love to have a parrot one day. Once
I buy a house (hopefully this year) I'm planning on getting Magic some
mates. I hear it's best to keep species native to the same part of the
world, is that true? Would a tiel get on with my budgie? Wasn't thinking
same cage but same room?

I'm just a bit question woman aren't I?!

Bex
__________________________________________________
__________________

Pray for that day when you'll leave behind the grey
Pray for that day when your feet could walk on different soil

http://www.darkwave.org.uk/~bex
@ update: 14/12/02 @
Laurie

"^^ Bex ^^" <bex@darkwave.org.uk> wrote in message
news:n68bivof6tpsimpi93hoaubq4tf9capl19@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 00:37:53 GMT, "Mamabird" <iluvbirdz.@directlink.net>
> wrote:
> He's doing well thank you, very bright and bouncy, I think he's very glad
> that he doesn't feel so ill anymore.
>
> Aww, birds are such great company, I'd love to have a parrot one day.

Once
> I buy a house (hopefully this year) I'm planning on getting Magic some
> mates. I hear it's best to keep species native to the same part of the
> world, is that true? Would a tiel get on with my budgie? Wasn't thinking
> same cage but same room?
>
> I'm just a bit question woman aren't I?!
>
> Bex


So glad to hear Magic's feeling better Bex! I sympathize with you having to
medicate him...I still can't get MacDaddy to take his Milk Thistle without
stressing him out. I'm sneaking it into his fresh foods now, hoping he'll
get some of it at least.

As for Budgies and Tiels together...well, let's just say MacDaddy is a
little budgie bully and wants to be in their face all the time, and they
just want to get away from the little blue booger! Mel will sometimes sing
to Mac and follow him around, but mostly he's fleeing from him. It's only
been a few months so I imagine Mel & Mollie will get used to him <hope,
hope>
for now, they're mostly trying to get away from him.

Laurie


David G Fisher

"Ed Lukoski" <elukoski@prohealthcare.com> wrote in message
news:31d3eaac.0307271345.6d889765@posting.google.com...
> ^^ Bex ^^ <bex@darkwave.org.uk> wrote in message

news:<rvo7ivs3onhooisjs7vr0lslh3d5qskj26@4ax.com>...
> > On 27 Jul 2003 07:02:23 -0700, elukoski@prohealthcare.com (Ed Lukoski)
> > wrote:
> >
> > >We just brought our first bird, a baby budgie, allegedly male, home
> > >yesterday afternoon.
> > >
> > >He seems a little shocked right now. No chirping, and not very
> > >animated. Spends a lot of time clinging to the bars at the back of
> > >his cage. We're letting him sort of relax with his cage located in a
> > >quiet corner to get used to our home, and I suppose we'll need to
> > >expect him to take a couple of days to warm up to his new
> > >surroundings. I did see him take seeds from his dish late last night,
> > >though he seems to be ignoring the small bits of cherries and
> > >strawberries I've left for him. I'm hoping that the fact that he's
> > >eating at all is a good sign.

> >
> > I'd try giving him a bit of lettuce (haven't seen many turn down

lettuce)
> > or a millet spray, and while he's munching talk to him softly and tell

him
> > how great he is. Putting a mirror in may help, nothings as scary when

you
> > have company.

>
> Yup, he's going absolutely berzerko over the millet spray. He took a
> nip at a slice from a strawberry, but ignored it after it fell to the
> bottom of his cage. He doesn't seem interested in the lettuce, but I
> suspect NOTHING could compete with that millet spray.


Substitute kale for the lettuce. Lettuce has little nutritional value at
all. Kale is an excellent source of calcium for a bird. Parsley as well. Try
clipping them to the side of the cage near a perch. Sometimes birds will eat
things that are clipped to the side of the cage, but not when they are put
in their bowl. Who knows why. It may take weeks before they try it as well
so you'll have to keep trying.

Dave


Alex Clayton
"^^ Bex ^^" <bex@darkwave.org.uk> wrote in message
news:n68bivof6tpsimpi93hoaubq4tf9capl19@4ax.com...
> Aww, birds are such great company, I'd love to have a parrot one day.

Once
> I buy a house (hopefully this year) I'm planning on getting Magic some
> mates. I hear it's best to keep species native to the same part of the
> world, is that true? Would a tiel get on with my budgie? Wasn't thinking
> same cage but same room?
>
> I'm just a bit question woman aren't I?!
>
> Bex
> __________________________________________________
__________________


Often Tiels and Budgies can be caged together as long as the have room.
Normally if there is any problem at all it's the Budgie picking on the
larger Tiel. Many pet stores cage both together no problem. Of course this
does not automatically mean it will always work. As in Laurie's case there
may be some aggression, but often they get along great, as long as there is
plenty of room.

--
"Things get better with age, I'm approaching magnificent"!


^^ Bex ^^
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:01:42 +0100, "oldmolly" <oldmolly@ntlworld.com>
wrote:


>> He's doing so well, I'm so pleased. He's taking the meds himself via his
>> drinking water (this took a while because he was convinced it would taste
>> of that horrid Baytril). Tonight for example he asked to come out when I
>> got in from work, and did several laps of the living room and a lot of
>> chattering and hopping about on my arm. Magic and I are waiting until his
>> antibiotic course is over to find him a new friend. It must be lonely

>when
>> you are used to constant company. The only set back we had was I had to
>> remove the Pollys Perches, as he rubbed his nose sore on them trying to
>> scratch the itch from his liver chucking out toxins. It's healing up well
>> now.
>>
>> Thanks for asking :)
>>

>Where are you Bex?? I have a little hand reared budgie here which I named
>'Boogie', which is looking for a nice new home. I would be happy to let you
>have him.


Erdington near Birmingham, where are you?

Bex
__________________________________________________
__________________

Pray for that day when you'll leave behind the grey
Pray for that day when your feet could walk on different soil

http://www.darkwave.org.uk/~bex
@ update: 14/12/02 @
Loren Coe
In article <31d3eaac.0307271345.6d889765@posting.google.com>, Ed Lukoski wrote:
> ^^ Bex ^^ <bex@darkwave.org.uk> wrote in message news:<rvo7ivs3onhooisjs7vr0lslh3d5qskj26@4ax.com>...
>> On 27 Jul 2003 07:02:23 -0700, elukoski@prohealthcare.com (Ed Lukoski)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >We just brought our first bird, a baby budgie, allegedly male, home
>> >yesterday afternoon.
>> >

>>[......]


>> I'd try giving him a bit of lettuce (haven't seen many turn down lettuce)
>> or a millet spray, and while he's munching talk to him softly and tell him
>> how great he is. Putting a mirror in may help, nothings as scary when you
>> have company.

>
> Yup, he's going absolutely berzerko over the millet spray. He took a


what is it? my pair of 'tiels go for Dallas grass (like quack grass),
seeds, stalk and leaves. --Loren

> nip at a slice from a strawberry, but ignored it after it fell to the
> bottom of his cage. He doesn't seem interested in the lettuce, but I
> suspect NOTHING could compete with that millet spray.
>
> Should I just leave it in there till it's gone, or is it a "treat"
> that I should remove in the morning when I clean his cage?
>
>>
>> >But my sister's birds chirp and peep all the time and seem to have a
>> >generally more animated demeanor. Is it too soon for me to start
>> >worrying about his behavior? Or is it reasonable to expect he'll need
>> >a little more "chillin' time" before he's feeling his right self?

>>
>> He will be happy once he stops being scared. You'd be worried to if you
>> were in his place.
>>
>> >Also, I'm curious about trimming the flight feathers. He was clipped
>> >at the shop, and I'm wondering how frequently this might need to be
>> >repeated?

>>
>> Wing clipping is mean imho. Neither of my budgies had it done and they
>> were/are good flyers and perfect weight. Just make sure you cover
>> reflective surfaces like windows.

>
> The breeder recommended it (bird was already clipped anyway) and I may
> tolerate the practice till I'm much more able to handle him. It was
> quite challenging for me to pick him up the couple of times I needed
> to, and I can't imagine how much more difficult it might be if the wee
> beastie were a skilled flier. With my luck, if he does have the knack
> for learning speech, his first phrase might be "Gotcha ya little
> b*stard!"
>
> How long will it take for those feathers to grow back?
>
>>
>> >I have him in a relatively plain little cage right now. Just the
>> >plain-jane $20 wire cage. I'm working at assembling a much more
>> >elaborate home for him with all sorts of neat toys and perches and a
>> >bathtub and all that. I'm leaving him in the plainer cage for now,
>> >because I don't want to keep pestering and alarming him as I add
>> >accessories and build up his fancier home. Should I be in a hurry to
>> >get him into his new digs, or can (should) I take a few days to
>> >acquire toys and putz with the furnishings?

>
>> Try not to overwhelm him. Introduce one new thing at a time and remember
>> that space is more valuable than toys, he'll probably only like certain
>> ones. He wont be nervous for long, just until he feel secure about this
>> being his new surroundings. Birds can get sick if stressed out too much so
>> take it slowly, you'll have years with him so there's no rush.

>
> He's looking a lit more chipper today. I decided to remove about half
> of the furnishings I had acquired for the new, larger cage and we
> moved him in there earlier today. With the weather being as horrid as
> it is I was hard-pressed to provide diversion for my 4 1/2 year-old,
> and the cage project did the trick. I'm thinking space may be more
> important to him than furnishings, and I can introduce new stuff in
> the future to break the monotony.
>
> I also re-located the cage where there's a wall behind it, I read that
> that may help him to feel more secure.
>
>> Aww, I love budgies *grin*
>>
>> Bex
>> __________________________________________________
__________________
>>
>> Pray for that day when you'll leave behind the grey
>> Pray for that day when your feet could walk on different soil
>>
>> http://www.darkwave.org.uk/~bex
>> @ update: 14/12/02 @

AZKalEl
Two of my favorite birds, BJ the female grey cockatiel and Rico the
male budgie shared a cage for years. They were both super tame, and
my BJ was so sweet and loved a scratch on the head. One day Rico was
climbing on her cage and she leaned over, like she always does for a
head scratch, and he started preening her through the bars. Well he
moved in with her that day and they were inseperable! From time to
time they even had some, ahem, "romantic encounters"! They lived
together for years until Rico had some type of seizure. He held on
for a few days and then died. BJ, about 15 years old, died a few
months later. Even though she was bonded to me, I can't help but
think it was from missing Rico!

(Before Rico, Tosh the Orange Winged Amazon was enamoured of BJ, she
must have been one hot birdie! He'd sing and dance in front of her
for hours. Never let them be free together though, couldn't take the
chance.)

Well that's my sappy story, so yes, it can work! (Careful though,
this one instance doesn't speak for all!)

Kal-El
Nancy
I too have my first budgie. Its been about 6 weeks, and everyday, I am in
her (Toby's) room on the internet, searching for a job, emailing, reading
papers. We listen to the radio too. I talk to her a lot. Mostly a repetative
'Hi Toby' in that voice that we all talk to little kids with...lol

But, when I am not there, she is isolated in this room, as I have 3 cats.
They are quite skillful hunters.

Am I too impatient about the following things?

1. she only likes grocery store parakeet food- looks like mostly millet and
something that looks like grass seed. I put a small amount (a teaspoon,
sorry I don't know the metric equivalent) and then about 2x that of a
crumble. There is always fresh water, and often some bits of fruit.

She will starve rather than eat anything else except the grocerystore food,
and the millet sprays that I am using to help with training/taming.

2. I have been working with her for about 6 weeks now- she sees me on
average about 2-4 hours aday. I can hold her (after chasing her around the
room, cage) and she gradually is nipping me less, but still is scared out of
her mind - poor little heart is racing....(maybe because I have a hard time
catching her.. good thing that her nipping is puny) She will eat a couple
bits of millet whilst I am holding her, and also, she will come to the open
door of the cage and eat millet ravenously whilst I hold it between my
fingers. I though by now she would be a little tamer.

I feel so sorry for her that I am contemplating getting another bird, (and
consequently another cage that is more cat proof -I just didn't want to
stress her with a new home, being a single bird, and 3 cats salivating) and
giving up on having a little buddy sitting on my shoulder, trying to rip off
my earrings, and talking to me in whatever language.

Any advise? Am I too impatient?

She was from a chain pet store here in the States, and I thought she was
young based on the lines on her head going right down to the beak.

She can fly pretty well for having clipped wings. I want her to have all of
her full flight feathers- I have a large tree branch in the opposite corner
of the room that she flutters over to, and then climbs up the little ladder
to the lower branches, and then sits there so proud of herself.

She stayed at a friend's house, very briefly, as I was employed at the time
and on a business trip. She had no problem fluttering over to the
cockatiel's cage and sitting on top like queen of the hill. They didn't know
what to make of her, so they would sit on top of her cage and look at her!
It was too funny.

Nancy


"Ed Lukoski" <elukoski@prohealthcare.com> wrote in message
news:31d3eaac.0307270602.5064d9f9@posting.google.com...
> We just brought our first bird, a baby budgie, allegedly male, home
> yesterday afternoon.
>
> He seems a little shocked right now. No chirping, and not very
> animated. Spends a lot of time clinging to the bars at the back of
> his cage. We're letting him sort of relax with his cage located in a
> quiet corner to get used to our home, and I suppose we'll need to
> expect him to take a couple of days to warm up to his new
> surroundings. I did see him take seeds from his dish late last night,
> though he seems to be ignoring the small bits of cherries and
> strawberries I've left for him. I'm hoping that the fact that he's
> eating at all is a good sign.
>
> But my sister's birds chirp and peep all the time and seem to have a
> generally more animated demeanor. Is it too soon for me to start
> worrying about his behavior? Or is it reasonable to expect he'll need
> a little more "chillin' time" before he's feeling his right self?
>
> Also, I'm curious about trimming the flight feathers. He was clipped
> at the shop, and I'm wondering how frequently this might need to be
> repeated?
>
> I have him in a relatively plain little cage right now. Just the
> plain-jane $20 wire cage. I'm working at assembling a much more
> elaborate home for him with all sorts of neat toys and perches and a
> bathtub and all that. I'm leaving him in the plainer cage for now,
> because I don't want to keep pestering and alarming him as I add
> accessories and build up his fancier home. Should I be in a hurry to
> get him into his new digs, or can (should) I take a few days to
> acquire toys and putz with the furnishings?



^^ Bex ^^
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 23:26:14 GMT, "Nancy" <ndonahue12@adelphia.net> wrote:

>I feel so sorry for her that I am contemplating getting another bird, (and
>consequently another cage that is more cat proof -I just didn't want to
>stress her with a new home, being a single bird, and 3 cats salivating) and
>giving up on having a little buddy sitting on my shoulder, trying to rip off
>my earrings, and talking to me in whatever language.
>
>Any advise? Am I too impatient?


Yes I think you are. My birdie Houdini (no longer with us) was a bugger to
start off with, she bit hard (drew blood) and hated being touched, after a
year she was sitting on my hand, running up my arms to perch on my
shoulder, singing to me and dancing with me.

Persevere, it doesn't matter if you get a partner bird for her, she will
still love you if you have formed a bond first.

Bex
__________________________________________________
__________________

Pray for that day when you'll leave behind the grey
Pray for that day when your feet could walk on different soil

http://www.darkwave.org.uk/~bex
@ update: 14/12/02 @
High Flight
Nancy <ndonahue12@adelphia.net> says...
> But, when I am not there, she is isolated in this room, as I have 3 cats.
> They are quite skillful hunters.


Strike one.


> 2. I have been working with her for about 6 weeks now- she sees me on
> average about 2-4 hours aday. I can hold her (after chasing her around the
> room, cage) and she gradually is nipping me less, but still is scared out of
> her mind - poor little heart is racing....(maybe because I have a hard time
> catching her.. good thing that her nipping is puny) She will eat a couple
> bits of millet whilst I am holding her, and also, she will come to the open
> door of the cage and eat millet ravenously whilst I hold it between my
> fingers. I though by now she would be a little tamer.


Strike two. You don't tame a bird by terrorizing it.


> I feel so sorry for her that I am contemplating getting another bird, (and
> consequently another cage that is more cat proof -I just didn't want to
> stress her with a new home, being a single bird, and 3 cats salivating) and
> giving up on having a little buddy sitting on my shoulder, trying to rip off
> my earrings, and talking to me in whatever language.


Strike three. You've demonstrated that you have no business owning a
budgie.

Redeem yourself and find her a better home.


> Any advise?


You advise by offering advice.

Jack

--
aka Keet Visit my web page at http://junior.apk.net/~jac/
^^ Bex ^^
On 6 Aug 2003 00:41:05 GMT, High Flight <jac@apk.net> wrote:

>Nancy <ndonahue12@adelphia.net> says...
>> But, when I am not there, she is isolated in this room, as I have 3 cats.
>> They are quite skillful hunters.

>
>Strike one.
>
>
>> 2. I have been working with her for about 6 weeks now- she sees me on
>> average about 2-4 hours aday. I can hold her (after chasing her around the
>> room, cage) and she gradually is nipping me less, but still is scared out of
>> her mind - poor little heart is racing....(maybe because I have a hard time
>> catching her.. good thing that her nipping is puny) She will eat a couple
>> bits of millet whilst I am holding her, and also, she will come to the open
>> door of the cage and eat millet ravenously whilst I hold it between my
>> fingers. I though by now she would be a little tamer.

>
>Strike two. You don't tame a bird by terrorizing it.
>
>
>> I feel so sorry for her that I am contemplating getting another bird, (and
>> consequently another cage that is more cat proof -I just didn't want to
>> stress her with a new home, being a single bird, and 3 cats salivating) and
>> giving up on having a little buddy sitting on my shoulder, trying to rip off
>> my earrings, and talking to me in whatever language.

>
>Strike three. You've demonstrated that you have no business owning a
>budgie.


I don't think that's fair at all. Everyone has to learn, she's asking
advice, which shows she's not ignorant (or she'd just leave the bird to
it).

I don't think that sort of attitude was necessary, you could have helped by
giving constructive criticism rather than just damning her for her
mistakes.

I'm not at all sure I'd have a bird with so many cats since you can't
really expect that cats to deny their instinct to hunt, I think you'd have
to be very fastidious as to checking where the cats were (ie out of the
room) before you let budgie have a fly around.

Bex
__________________________________________________
__________________

Pray for that day when you'll leave behind the grey
Pray for that day when your feet could walk on different soil

http://www.darkwave.org.uk/~bex
@ update: 14/12/02 @
Nancy
Thank you for your advice. You obviously feel quite strongly about it, to
the point of religious intolerance.

Finding a new home has been also an option that I have been struggling with.

Also thank you for pointing out my spelling error. I saw it myself, just as
I hit the send button. It was also quite considerate for you not to point
out my other composition mistakes: fragmented sentences, run on sentences,
and the like. You probably cut me some slack as this is an informal forum
and I am obviously writing about a matter that I am struggling with.

"High Flight" <jac@apk.net> wrote in message
news:bgpir1$duc$1@plonk.apk.net...
> Nancy <ndonahue12@adelphia.net> says...
> > But, when I am not there, she is isolated in this room, as I have 3

cats.
> > They are quite skillful hunters.

>
> Strike one.
>
>
> > 2. I have been working with her for about 6 weeks now- she sees me on
> > average about 2-4 hours aday. I can hold her (after chasing her around

the
> > room, cage) and she gradually is nipping me less, but still is scared

out of
> > her mind - poor little heart is racing....(maybe because I have a hard

time
> > catching her.. good thing that her nipping is puny) She will eat a

couple
> > bits of millet whilst I am holding her, and also, she will come to the

open
> > door of the cage and eat millet ravenously whilst I hold it between my
> > fingers. I though by now she would be a little tamer.

>
> Strike two. You don't tame a bird by terrorizing it.
>
>
> > I feel so sorry for her that I am contemplating getting another bird,

(and
> > consequently another cage that is more cat proof -I just didn't want to
> > stress her with a new home, being a single bird, and 3 cats salivating)

and
> > giving up on having a little buddy sitting on my shoulder, trying to rip

off
> > my earrings, and talking to me in whatever language.

>
> Strike three. You've demonstrated that you have no business owning a
> budgie.
>
> Redeem yourself and find her a better home.
>
>
> > Any advise?

>
> You advise by offering advice.
>
> Jack
>
> --
> aka Keet Visit my web page at http://junior.apk.net/~jac/



Lurker

"^^ Bex ^^" <bex@darkwave.org.uk> wrote in message
news:u9m1jvkpc5vh9trq4lgg81e1re7utit809@4ax.com...
> On 6 Aug 2003 00:41:05 GMT, High Flight <jac@apk.net> wrote:
>
> >Nancy <ndonahue12@adelphia.net> says...
> >> But, when I am not there, she is isolated in this room, as I have 3

cats.
> >> They are quite skillful hunters.

> >
> >Strike one.
> >
> >
> >> 2. I have been working with her for about 6 weeks now- she sees me on
> >> average about 2-4 hours aday. I can hold her (after chasing her around

the
> >> room, cage) and she gradually is nipping me less, but still is scared

out of
> >> her mind - poor little heart is racing....(maybe because I have a hard

time
> >> catching her.. good thing that her nipping is puny) She will eat a

couple
> >> bits of millet whilst I am holding her, and also, she will come to the

open
> >> door of the cage and eat millet ravenously whilst I hold it between my
> >> fingers. I though by now she would be a little tamer.

> >
> >Strike two. You don't tame a bird by terrorizing it.
> >
> >
> >> I feel so sorry for her that I am contemplating getting another bird,

(and
> >> consequently another cage that is more cat proof -I just didn't want to
> >> stress her with a new home, being a single bird, and 3 cats salivating)

and
> >> giving up on having a little buddy sitting on my shoulder, trying to

rip off
> >> my earrings, and talking to me in whatever language.

> >
> >Strike three. You've demonstrated that you have no business owning a
> >budgie.

>
> I don't think that's fair at all. Everyone has to learn, she's asking
> advice, which shows she's not ignorant (or she'd just leave the bird to
> it).
>
> I don't think that sort of attitude was necessary, you could have helped

by
> giving constructive criticism rather than just damning her for her
> mistakes.
>
> I'm not at all sure I'd have a bird with so many cats since you can't
> really expect that cats to deny their instinct to hunt, I think you'd have
> to be very fastidious as to checking where the cats were (ie out of the
> room) before you let budgie have a fly around.
>
> Bex


Well said Bex!!! Jack has been that way forever. He is "tolerated", I
assume, by the need for comparison.
> __________________________________________________
__________________
>
> Pray for that day when you'll leave behind the grey
> Pray for that day when your feet could walk on different soil
>
> http://www.darkwave.org.uk/~bex
> @ update: 14/12/02 @





-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
-----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----
Loren Coe
In article <oq6Ya.9848$jg.2738659@news1.news.adelphia.net>, Nancy wrote:
> Thank you for your advice. You obviously feel quite strongly about it, to
> the point of religious intolerance.
>
> Finding a new home has been also an option that I have been struggling with.
>
> Also thank you for pointing out my spelling error. I saw it myself, just as
> I hit the send button. It was also quite considerate for you not to point
> out my other composition mistakes: fragmented sentences, run on sentences,
> and the like. You probably cut me some slack as this is an informal forum
> and I am obviously writing about a matter that I am struggling with.


Jack does come across as a bit of nitwit, doesn't he? --Loren

>
> "High Flight" <jac@apk.net> wrote in message
> news:bgpir1$duc$1@plonk.apk.net...
>> Nancy <ndonahue12@adelphia.net> says...
>> > But, when I am not there, she is isolated in this room, as I have 3

> cats.
>> > They are quite skillful hunters.

>>
>> Strike one.
>>
>>
>> > 2. I have been working with her for about 6 weeks now- she sees me on
>> > average about 2-4 hours aday. I can hold her (after chasing her around

> the
>> > room, cage) and she gradually is nipping me less, but still is scared

> out of
>> > her mind - poor little heart is racing....(maybe because I have a hard

> time
>> > catching her.. good thing that her nipping is puny) She will eat a

> couple
>> > bits of millet whilst I am holding her, and also, she will come to the

> open
>> > door of the cage and eat millet ravenously whilst I hold it between my
>> > fingers. I though by now she would be a little tamer.

>>
>> Strike two. You don't tame a bird by terrorizing it.
>>
>>
>> > I feel so sorry for her that I am contemplating getting another bird,

> (and
>> > consequently another cage that is more cat proof -I just didn't want to
>> > stress her with a new home, being a single bird, and 3 cats salivating)

> and
>> > giving up on having a little buddy sitting on my shoulder, trying to rip

> off
>> > my earrings, and talking to me in whatever language.

>>
>> Strike three. You've demonstrated that you have no business owning a
>> budgie.
>>
>> Redeem yourself and find her a better home.
>>
>>
>> > Any advise?

>>
>> You advise by offering advice.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> --
>> aka Keet Visit my web page at http://junior.apk.net/~jac/

>
>

oldmolly

"Loren Coe" <loren@netnews.attbi.com> wrote in message
news:UHKZa.83802$Vt6.28550@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
> In article <oq6Ya.9848$jg.2738659@news1.news.adelphia.net>, Nancy wrote:
> > Thank you for your advice. You obviously feel quite strongly about it,

to
> > the point of religious intolerance.
> >
> > Finding a new home has been also an option that I have been struggling

with.
> >
> > Also thank you for pointing out my spelling error. I saw it myself, just

as
> > I hit the send button. It was also quite considerate for you not to

point
> > out my other composition mistakes: fragmented sentences, run on

sentences,
> > and the like. You probably cut me some slack as this is an informal

forum
> > and I am obviously writing about a matter that I am struggling with.

>
> Jack does come across as a bit of nitwit, doesn't he? --Loren
>

Do you actually have any birds Loren?



---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/03


lcoe
oldmolly <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> "Loren Coe" <loren@netnews.attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:UHKZa.83802$Vt6.28550@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
>> In article <oq6Ya.9848$jg.2738659@news1.news.adelphia.net>, Nancy wrote:
>> > Thank you for your advice. You obviously feel quite strongly about it,

> to
>> > the point of religious intolerance.
>> >
>> > Finding a new home has been also an option that I have been struggling

> with.
>> >
>> > Also thank you for pointing out my spelling error. I saw it myself, just

> as

[......]>>
>> Jack does come across as a bit of nitwit, doesn't he? --Loren
>>

> Do you actually have any birds Loren?


yes, but i didn't know that was a requirment for posting, certainly
not for responding to a twit. --Loren


> ---
> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/03





"At Last... Dog Training That's Guaranteed To Teach You How To STOP your Dog's Behavior Problems Quickly And Easily!"
 

Learn How To Quickly And Easily Train Your Doggie To Be Well Behaved At All Times
 

 

Powered by: Search Engine Indexer and vBulletin v2.3.0
Copyright © 2000 - 2002, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited