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| Jeff Fox |
Newbie ferret parents.
We want to give our ferret treats sometimes but want them to be safe
and healthy.
What's good and what's not?
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| Vampkel |
there are a ton of treats on the market made specifically for ferrets. They'll
be in the ferret aisle of your pet store near their food.
they also enjoy raisins and banana.
when mine was little he'd eat other fruit with me, like peaches, but he no
longer goes for much else.
also when he was little he'd go crazy for chocolate! once in a while i'd treat
him to an m&m or a lick of something sweet, but u really aren't supposed to do
that:)
--kel
"A new dress doesn't get you anywhere; its the life you're living in the
dress."
--Diana Vreeland
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| ex WGS Hamm |
"Vampkel" <vampkel@aol.com> wrote in message
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> there are a ton of treats on the market made specifically for ferrets.
They'll
> be in the ferret aisle of your pet store near their food.
>
> they also enjoy raisins and banana.
>
> when mine was little he'd eat other fruit with me, like peaches, but he no
> longer goes for much else.
>
> also when he was little he'd go crazy for chocolate! once in a while i'd
treat
> him to an m&m or a lick of something sweet, but u really aren't supposed
to do
> that:)
Don't give your ferret fruit. They cannot digest it properly. They need
mainly meat and meat treats or special ferret treats. Chocolate is poisonous
so never give that either. I suggest you buy a book called 'ferrets for
dummies' and go to www.ferretcentral.org for more info on safe treats.
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Many folks give a plain (unsweetened) Cheerio now and then for a treat.
Also, many treats for cats are acceptable if they are chicken based.
Ferrets are carnivores, which means their systems are meant to eat meat, not
treats with sugar and definitely nothing that would cause blockages (like
dried foods of any kinds, dried fruits included, even tho many supposed
'ferret treats' contain dried fruits in them - those are dangerous to your
ferret. Other 'healthy' treats are a bit of Ferretone - but only a
little...to stretch it further and be able to give them a little more, you
can mix it half and half with pure virgin olive oil (which they also like)
so they don't overdose on Vitamins A and D, which the body cannot eliminate
if they get too much of it. The only 'treats' my kids really get are
chicken-based cat treats (average only one at a time maybe twice a week), a
teaspoon of pure vaseline with several drops of ferretone in it for flavor
(which acts as a hairball remedy - something your ferret needs anyway) a
couple times a week, and a few licks of ferretone - a vitamin supplement
(which they don't REALLY need if you have them on a quality ferret food - do
NOT use store brands of cat food for your ferret's diet) a few times a week.
If you feed your ferret junk food like some folks seem to insist on doing,
you are not doing your ferret a favor and may even cause him health problems
down the road. Better to "treat" your ferret by giving him one on one
playtime and your attention and love/snuggles. No real purpose is
accomplished by giving them food that is either not digested or does not
provide any nutrition to them. JMHO tho.......
jumpingmouse, kylie & gilbert
"ex WGS Hamm" <alpha.bitchREMOVETHIS@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> "Vampkel" <vampkel@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> there are a ton of treats on the market made specifically for ferrets.
> They'll
>> be in the ferret aisle of your pet store near their food.
>>
>> they also enjoy raisins and banana.
>>
>> when mine was little he'd eat other fruit with me, like peaches, but he
>> no
>> longer goes for much else.
>>
>> also when he was little he'd go crazy for chocolate! once in a while i'd
> treat
>> him to an m&m or a lick of something sweet, but u really aren't supposed
> to do
>> that:)
> Don't give your ferret fruit. They cannot digest it properly. They need
> mainly meat and meat treats or special ferret treats. Chocolate is
> poisonous
> so never give that either. I suggest you buy a book called 'ferrets for
> dummies' and go to www.ferretcentral.org for more info on safe treats.
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>
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| LinTK |
"Jeff Fox" <jfox@airmail.net> wrote in message
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> Newbie ferret parents.
> We want to give our ferret treats sometimes but want them to be safe
> and healthy.
> What's good and what's not?
We give our ferrets tartar control cat treats (as harder food is better for
their teeth than soft foods), although they also enjoy the 8-in-1 chicken
flavor FerretBites, which are soft.
A lot of people recommend duck soup as an occasional treat, as they may need
to get used to it if they become sick, have surgery, or have anything else
happen where they might need a soft, high calorie diet. There are tons of
duck soup recipes out there. I use stage 2 chicken or turkey baby food,
mixed w/ a little heavy whipping cream, & a touch of FerreTone for taste, &
some ground up kibble if they'll tolerate it. If they haven't been eating &
need their appetite jump-started, I replace the baby food w/ Hill's
Prescription Diet A/D canned food (available only from your vet, & designed
as an appetite stimulant). If they get used to this as an occasional treat
when they're healthy, it'll be a lot easier to feed it to them if they get
sick later on.
Lin, Ariel, Oberon, Max, & Puck
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| Russell Prater |
Jeff Fox wrote:
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> Newbie ferret parents.
> We want to give our ferret treats sometimes but want them to be safe
> and healthy.
> What's good and what's not?
Ferretone, mixed 1 part to 2 parts of extra virgin olive oil or Wesson
carnuba oil. You can give up to a teaspoon of the mix. Ferretvite, give
an inch. Raisins, cut in half. Give one or two. Their regular kibble fed
from your hand.
--
Russ, Booger, Bonnie & Clyde
russellprater@worldnet.att.net
URA Redneck if you have a refrigerator just for beer.
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| Vampkel |
> Don't give your ferret fruit. They cannot digest it properly. They need
>mainly meat and meat treats or special ferret treats. Chocolate is poisonous
>so never give that either.
my ferret is a happy 7 year old. i think he's doing OK.
--kel
"A new dress doesn't get you anywhere; its the life you're living in the
dress."
--Diana Vreeland
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| ex WGS Hamm |
"Vampkel" <vampkel@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > Don't give your ferret fruit. They cannot digest it properly. They need
> >mainly meat and meat treats or special ferret treats. Chocolate is
poisonous
> >so never give that either.
>
> my ferret is a happy 7 year old. i think he's doing OK.
> --kel
I am sad that you regard giving dangerous treats so flippantly. The facts
remain that fruit and chocolate IS bad for your ferret. It obviously
survives in *spite* of your feeding regime. Ferrets cannot tolerate the
theobromide in chocolate. It can give them a heart attack. That is a fact.
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| Vampkel |
Xref: 127.0.0.1 alt.pets.ferrets:171000
>> my ferret is a happy 7 year old. i think he's doing OK.
>> --kel
> I am sad that you regard giving dangerous treats so flippantly. The facts
>remain that fruit and chocolate IS bad for your ferret. It obviously
>survives in *spite* of your feeding regime. Ferrets cannot tolerate the
>theobromide in chocolate. It can give them a heart attack. That is a fact.
>
agreed. he hasn't eaten it tho in like, 5 years. gimme a break!
--kel
"A new dress doesn't get you anywhere; its the life you're living in the
dress."
--Diana Vreeland
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| Russell Prater |
ex WGS Hamm wrote:
> Ferrets cannot tolerate the
> theobromide in chocolate. It can give them a heart attack. That is a fact.
I have seen references to DOGS and theobromide. I have never seen any
reference to ferrets and theobromine. Do you have a reference for
ferrets and theobromide that I could look up?
--
Russ, Booger, Bonnie & Clyde
russellprater@worldnet.att.net
URA Redneck if you have a 1 to 10 warning system for your gas attacks.
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| Russell Prater |
ex WGS Hamm wrote:
> Ferrets cannot tolerate the
> theobromide in chocolate. It can give them a heart attack. That is a fact.
I have seen references to DOGS and theobromide. I have never seen any
reference to ferrets and theobromine. Do you have a reference for
ferrets and theobromide that I could look up?
--
Russ, Booger, Bonnie & Clyde
russellprater@worldnet.att.net
URA Redneck if you have a 1 to 10 warning system for your gas attacks.
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| ex WGS Hamm |
"Russell Prater" <russellprater@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> ex WGS Hamm wrote:
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> > Ferrets cannot tolerate the
> > theobromide in chocolate. It can give them a heart attack. That is a
fact.
>
> I have seen references to DOGS and theobromide. I have never seen any
> reference to ferrets and theobromine. Do you have a reference for
> ferrets and theobromide that I could look up?
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...theobromide+fer
rets
HTH
not many animals or birds can tolerate chocolate. I don't know of any as a
matter of fact.
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Dang, I'm GLAD I'm not a dog, cat, bird or ferret............I'd DIE without
chocolate!!! roflol
I agree with molly on this one and don't give any of my pets chocolate. Why
take the chance when there are plenty of other high protein snacks out there
that are known to be healthy for them.
In spite of all warnings about cigarette smoking, my mom used to brag that
she had smoked for 55 years and didn't have cancer, so how could it be that
bad for her. That was when she was a very spry, active, and beautiful 73
year old. She never lived to be 74. She died 12 days after she was
diagnosed - of lung cancer.
Moral of the story: Yes, today they may eat it and be fine, maybe even
tomorrow and the next day, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have the
potential to kill them.
Prolly a bad analogy, but it was the best I have. Today I don't smoke and
I don't give my ferrets or my dog chocolate. Then again, we all have to
die of something, so life is a trade-off any way you take it and we all end
up dead in the end anyway.
jumpingmouse, kylie & gilbert
On the lighter side: (as my husband says "there's nothing in this world
that's more aggravating than a born again Christian or an ex-smoker") LOL
"ex WGS Hamm" <alpha.bitchREMOVETHIS@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> "Russell Prater" <russellprater@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>> ex WGS Hamm wrote:
>>
>> > Ferrets cannot tolerate the
>> > theobromide in chocolate. It can give them a heart attack. That is a
> fact.
>>
>> I have seen references to DOGS and theobromide. I have never seen any
>> reference to ferrets and theobromine. Do you have a reference for
>> ferrets and theobromide that I could look up?
>
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...theobromide+fer
> rets
> HTH
> not many animals or birds can tolerate chocolate. I don't know of any as a
> matter of fact.
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| Jason and Holly Harper |
What about a born again Christian AND an ex-smoker? That's my mommy....now
don't you pity me? ;-)
Holly
<jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Dang, I'm GLAD I'm not a dog, cat, bird or ferret............I'd DIE
without
> chocolate!!! roflol
>
> I agree with molly on this one and don't give any of my pets chocolate.
Why
> take the chance when there are plenty of other high protein snacks out
there
> that are known to be healthy for them.
>
> In spite of all warnings about cigarette smoking, my mom used to brag that
> she had smoked for 55 years and didn't have cancer, so how could it be
that
> bad for her. That was when she was a very spry, active, and beautiful 73
> year old. She never lived to be 74. She died 12 days after she was
> diagnosed - of lung cancer.
>
> Moral of the story: Yes, today they may eat it and be fine, maybe even
> tomorrow and the next day, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have the
> potential to kill them.
>
> Prolly a bad analogy, but it was the best I have. Today I don't smoke
and
> I don't give my ferrets or my dog chocolate. Then again, we all have to
> die of something, so life is a trade-off any way you take it and we all
end
> up dead in the end anyway.
>
> jumpingmouse, kylie & gilbert
> On the lighter side: (as my husband says "there's nothing in this world
> that's more aggravating than a born again Christian or an ex-smoker") LOL
>
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| MC |
Never been proven that chocolate is poisonous to ferrets. Dogs, yes,
fuzzballs, no.
Little bits of chocolate or fruit (not raisins..can cause blockages) are not
gonna hurt your ferret. (The key here is: LITTLE BIT, as in
smidgens...etc.)
It is NOT a good idea to feed large amounts of anything 'sweet' to a ferret,
as has been stated...they are obligate carnivors and do not digest sugars
properly.
MC
"ex WGS Hamm" <alpha.bitchREMOVETHIS@virgin.net> wrote in message
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Chocolate is poisonous
> so never give that either. I suggest you buy a book called 'ferrets for
> dummies' and go to www.ferretcentral.org for more info on safe treats.
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| MC |
Humans can tolerate chocolate just fine. As can ferrets. My crew has
polished off a 1/2 pound of M&M's and the only side effect was colored
stools. (No, I didn't give them to them, the brats stole the bag when we
weren't looking....and then enjoyed it when we weren't around to hear the
bag crinkling!)
Again, I do wish to stress, the sugar is bad in large amounts.
MC
> not many animals or birds can tolerate chocolate. I don't know of any as a
> matter of fact.
>
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| Russell Prater |
ex WGS Hamm wrote:
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...theobromide+fer
> rets
> HTH
> not many animals or birds can tolerate chocolate. I don't know of any as a
> matter of fact.
That is what I thought. There are no studies that show how toxic
theobromine is to a ferret.
"Chocolate
Bruce S. Levine, DVM and Dr. Fred Soifer, DVM cannot recommend chocolate
as a safe treat. Chocolate
contains a caffeine-like substance called theobromine that dogs are
particularly sensitive to. No definitive
studies exist at this time to determine how toxic theobromine is to
ferrets."
Still, they don't need it and better treats are available.
--
Russ, Booger, Bonnie & Clyde
russellprater@worldnet.att.net
URA Redneck if you put "horns" on your new bride's pictures.
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 23:17:44 GMT, "Jason and Holly Harper"
<jhharper@tm.net> wrote:
>> jumpingmouse, kylie & gilbert
>> On the lighter side: (as my husband says "there's nothing in this world
>> that's more aggravating than a born again Christian or an ex-smoker") LOL
>What about a born again Christian AND an ex-smoker? That's my mommy....now
>don't you pity me? ;-)
My "pity vote" goes to a client of mine w/ a Jewish mother and
Colombian wife. Says he alternates between "oy vey" and "Dios mio"
*every single day*.
>Holly
swamp
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"Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:42:43 GMT, "ex WGS Hamm"
<alpha.bitchREMOVETHIS@virgin.net> wrote:
>http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...theobromide+fer
>rets
> HTH
>not many animals or birds can tolerate chocolate. I don't know of any as a
>matter of fact.
They can "all" tolerate chocolate in small amounts, but I agree there
are better treats for our pets.
My question to you is, given the nature of Ma Nature, there must be
*some* animal in the South American forests which eats cacao beans.
When nature offers, an opportunist takes.
Eucalyptus leaves are terrible unless you're a koala,
swamp
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"Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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| Rico Tico |
"swamp" <swamp92@> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:42:43 GMT, "ex WGS Hamm"
> <alpha.bitchREMOVETHIS@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>
>http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...=theobromide+fe
r
> >rets
> > HTH
> >not many animals or birds can tolerate chocolate. I don't know of any as
a
> >matter of fact.
>
> They can "all" tolerate chocolate in small amounts, but I agree there
> are better treats for our pets.
>
> My question to you is, given the nature of Ma Nature, there must be
> *some* animal in the South American forests which eats cacao beans.
> When nature offers, an opportunist takes.
I rekon that's were we (humans) come in. Since our friends in South
American can get it to us, and the monkeys never knew what a good thing was
in the first place, she must put it there for *our* taking?! Now if them
monekys ever DO find out what a fix chocolate can be, we best shore up the
borders 'round fudge shops.
>
> Eucalyptus leaves are terrible unless you're a koala,
A chinese fella in town fixes a eucalyptus and menthol oil mix for folks for
upper respiratory inhalation therapy (heated).
See sum stuff can be made for our shared good with aminals! But I don't
believe in animal testing, sum of that stuff is way bad what they do.
Rico's Gpa
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> swamp
>
> --
>
> "Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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| ex WGS Hamm |
"MC" <MC@ProgressiveSystemsInc.org> wrote in message
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> Never been proven that chocolate is poisonous to ferrets. Dogs, yes,
> fuzzballs, no.
>
> Little bits of chocolate or fruit (not raisins..can cause blockages) are
not
> gonna hurt your ferret. (The key here is: LITTLE BIT, as in
> smidgens...etc.)
The problem is that a lot of people have no idea what 'a little bit' or
'moderation' means. If they did, there would not be so many enormously fat
children about.
I would say that if parents are content to kill their own children by
degrees they are hardly likely to be sensible about feeding their pets.
>
> It is NOT a good idea to feed large amounts of anything 'sweet' to a
ferret,
> as has been stated...they are obligate carnivors and do not digest sugars
> properly.
eggzackerly.
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| Jason and Holly Harper |
LOL! :) Ok...he's got me beat. ;-)
Holly
"swamp" <swamp92@> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 23:17:44 GMT, "Jason and Holly Harper"
> <jhharper@tm.net> wrote:
>
> >> jumpingmouse, kylie & gilbert
> >> On the lighter side: (as my husband says "there's nothing in this
world
> >> that's more aggravating than a born again Christian or an ex-smoker")
LOL
>
> >What about a born again Christian AND an ex-smoker? That's my
mommy....now
> >don't you pity me? ;-)
>
> My "pity vote" goes to a client of mine w/ a Jewish mother and
> Colombian wife. Says he alternates between "oy vey" and "Dios mio"
> *every single day*.
>
> >Holly
>
> swamp
>
> --
>
> "Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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| Jason and Holly Harper |
I was considering posting that "Boy...I'm sure MC has an opinion on this
topic..." and sure enough.... :)
Holly
"MC" <MC@ProgressiveSystemsInc.org> wrote in message
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> Humans can tolerate chocolate just fine. As can ferrets. My crew has
> polished off a 1/2 pound of M&M's and the only side effect was colored
> stools. (No, I didn't give them to them, the brats stole the bag when we
> weren't looking....and then enjoyed it when we weren't around to hear the
> bag crinkling!)
>
> Again, I do wish to stress, the sugar is bad in large amounts.
>
> MC
> > not many animals or birds can tolerate chocolate. I don't know of any as
a
> > matter of fact.
> >
> >
>
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 03:05:48 GMT, "Rico Tico"
<ReecohTeecoh@FerretWorld.net> wrote:
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>"swamp" <swamp92@> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:42:43 GMT, "ex WGS Hamm"
>> <alpha.bitchREMOVETHIS@virgin.net> wrote:
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>>http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...=theobromide+fe
>r
>> >rets
>> > HTH
>> >not many animals or birds can tolerate chocolate. I don't know of any as
>a
>> >matter of fact.
>>
>> They can "all" tolerate chocolate in small amounts, but I agree there
>> are better treats for our pets.
>>
>> My question to you is, given the nature of Ma Nature, there must be
>> *some* animal in the South American forests which eats cacao beans.
>> When nature offers, an opportunist takes.
>
>I rekon that's were we (humans) come in. Since our friends in South
>American can get it to us, and the monkeys never knew what a good thing was
>in the first place, she must put it there for *our* taking?! Now if them
>monekys ever DO find out what a fix chocolate can be, we best shore up the
>borders 'round fudge shops.
Unlikely, given that cacao trees survived for 100s of millions of
years before we humans entered the picture. Should we drop out of it,
maybe the monkeys will take our place. Capuchino, anyone?
>> Eucalyptus leaves are terrible unless you're a koala,
>
>A chinese fella in town fixes a eucalyptus and menthol oil mix for folks for
>upper respiratory inhalation therapy (heated).
We're pretty clever about extracting essences, but sustenance is a
physiological issue. W/o the gut of a koala, eating eucalyptus leaves
make you sick. Oleander too...
>See sum stuff can be made for our shared good with aminals! But I don't
>believe in animal testing, sum of that stuff is way bad what they do.
I disagree, however apf isn't the place to discuss these things.
>Rico's Gpa
Back to ferrets,
swamp
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"Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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| Azzy |
<not many animals or birds can tolerate chocolate. I don't know of any as a
matter of fact>
I know this is off topic, but rats can have chocolate. They may be the only
animals besides humans who can, I don't know. I do know that if your rat has
the sniffles a chocolate chip will help open his air passages.
Ok, back to ferrets
Azzy
--
The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four Americans
is suffering from some sort of mental illness.
(Think of your three best friends, if they're okay, then it's you.)
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> "Russell Prater" <russellprater@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> > ex WGS Hamm wrote:
> >
> > > Ferrets cannot tolerate the
> > > theobromide in chocolate. It can give them a heart attack. That is a
> fact.
> >
> > I have seen references to DOGS and theobromide. I have never seen any
> > reference to ferrets and theobromine. Do you have a reference for
> > ferrets and theobromide that I could look up?
>
>
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...theobromide+fer
> rets
> HTH
> not many animals or birds can tolerate chocolate. I don't know of any as a
> matter of fact.
>
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| MC |
Welp..there are lot of 'opinions' about raising ferrets. Some are good,
some are bad, some have good basis of fact, some are snake oil...
My opinions are simply based on what I have learned through life about
husbandry...I grew up on a horse ranch in Tucson, Arizona.....If we, as
caretakers for our companions, can approximate their existence in the world,
(Even though they are domesticated, they have instincts...even humans have
instincts!) we will have a much healthier animal. I figure the vets and old
ranch hands knew more about it than I, so...I have always tried to follow
these guidelines....Keep their minds active, don't be so anal about what
they eat as supplements to their regular diet, and give them plenty of mind
focused exercise, (Like stalking and killing a mouse) I should have a
healthier animal. Must work....almost all of my ferrets, from all farms and
locals around the world, live to 10 years of age. Yes, I have had 2 adrenal
cases....My little rescue that came to me two years ago at, what I am
guessing to be around 6, and my son's MF boy, Garret. Garret lived to 10
1/2 BTW, after losing both of his adrenals in two different
surgeries...little rescue girl is still with me....and 1 unknown early death
at 6..Tuzigoot, a New Zealand charmer. One of my boys even lived to over
11.
So yes, I have opinions, and I hope everyone else does too. And I do love
it when most are expressed here...Swamp's, Russell's, Paul's, (Some of his
reading choice's are not mine! HEH!) Bob C's, Old Molly (Yes Molly, I do
respect your opinions!) Kat's, Cap's, Sam's, Lin's, and everyone's! I learn
so much from reading here, and the FML, and the various forums I am on....
I have no idea why I am so blessed with long lived ferrets............just
have some opinions.....
MC, The Rude One
"Jason and Holly Harper" <jhharper@tm.net> wrote in message
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> I was considering posting that "Boy...I'm sure MC has an opinion on this
> topic..." and sure enough.... :)
>
> Holly
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"swamp" <swamp92@> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 03:05:48 GMT, "Rico Tico"
> <ReecohTeecoh@FerretWorld.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"swamp" <swamp92@> wrote in message
> >news:59pgn09kkvg9sd8pq9p39humrqes88t6vd@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:42:43 GMT, "ex WGS Hamm"
> >> <alpha.bitchREMOVETHIS@virgin.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
>
>>http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...q=theobromide+f
e
> >r
> >> >rets
> >> > HTH
> >> >not many animals or birds can tolerate chocolate. I don't know of any
as
> >a
> >> >matter of fact.
> >>
> >> They can "all" tolerate chocolate in small amounts, but I agree there
> >> are better treats for our pets.
> >>
> >> My question to you is, given the nature of Ma Nature, there must be
> >> *some* animal in the South American forests which eats cacao beans.
> >> When nature offers, an opportunist takes.
> >
> >I rekon that's were we (humans) come in. Since our friends in South
> >American can get it to us, and the monkeys never knew what a good thing
was
> >in the first place, she must put it there for *our* taking?! Now if
them
> >monekys ever DO find out what a fix chocolate can be, we best shore up
the
> >borders 'round fudge shops.
>
> Unlikely, given that cacao trees survived for 100s of millions of
> years before we humans entered the picture. Should we drop out of it,
> maybe the monkeys will take our place. Capuchino, anyone?
Is we that old already?...hmmpf! I suppose I could take the prejuxposition
of tobacco ... look how long that was around before we found out how it
could be tested on animals for our pleasure.
See it ain't so much that we lost a rabbit cuz the ladies pregnant...it's
how many rabbits the baby can hunt in a lifetime.
expresso pah lah heez.
>
> >> Eucalyptus leaves are terrible unless you're a koala,
> >
> >A chinese fella in town fixes a eucalyptus and menthol oil mix for folks
for
> >upper respiratory inhalation therapy (heated).
>
> We're pretty clever about extracting essences, but sustenance is a
> physiological issue. W/o the gut of a koala, eating eucalyptus leaves
> make you sick. Oleander too...
and hemlock. Being of the society does not make one immune.
>
> >See sum stuff can be made for our shared good with aminals! But I don't
> >believe in animal testing, sum of that stuff is way bad what they do.
>
> I disagree, however apf isn't the place to discuss these things.
Oh I'd like to think we can talk about yarn at the hardware...it's a free
country.
Rico's Gpa
>
> Back to ferrets,
yes...
>
> swamp
>
> --
>
> "Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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So, looks to me like we've come full circle..........just feed the wabbits
to the ferrets for treats! ;-)
"Rico Tico" <ReecohTeecoh@FerretWorld.net> wrote in message
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>
> "swamp" <swamp92@> wrote in message
> news:qkfjn0ltmskarra0sv6vubgaloh0akd154@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 03:05:48 GMT, "Rico Tico"
>> <ReecohTeecoh@FerretWorld.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"swamp" <swamp92@> wrote in message
>> >news:59pgn09kkvg9sd8pq9p39humrqes88t6vd@4ax.com...
>> >> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:42:43 GMT, "ex WGS Hamm"
>> >> <alpha.bitchREMOVETHIS@virgin.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>>http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...q=theobromide+f
> e
>> >r
>> >> >rets
>> >> > HTH
>> >> >not many animals or birds can tolerate chocolate. I don't know of any
> as
>> >a
>> >> >matter of fact.
>> >>
>> >> They can "all" tolerate chocolate in small amounts, but I agree there
>> >> are better treats for our pets.
>> >>
>> >> My question to you is, given the nature of Ma Nature, there must be
>> >> *some* animal in the South American forests which eats cacao beans.
>> >> When nature offers, an opportunist takes.
>> >
>> >I rekon that's were we (humans) come in. Since our friends in South
>> >American can get it to us, and the monkeys never knew what a good thing
> was
>> >in the first place, she must put it there for *our* taking?! Now if
> them
>> >monekys ever DO find out what a fix chocolate can be, we best shore up
> the
>> >borders 'round fudge shops.
>>
>> Unlikely, given that cacao trees survived for 100s of millions of
>> years before we humans entered the picture. Should we drop out of it,
>> maybe the monkeys will take our place. Capuchino, anyone?
>
> Is we that old already?...hmmpf! I suppose I could take the
> prejuxposition
> of tobacco ... look how long that was around before we found out how it
> could be tested on animals for our pleasure.
> See it ain't so much that we lost a rabbit cuz the ladies pregnant...it's
> how many rabbits the baby can hunt in a lifetime.
>
>
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