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| Dropped 21 |
Hi -
I just got a Peach Faced Love Bird yesterday, the owner was an elderly woman
and, actually - she passed away (at age 90) it was her granddaughter that
placed the bird with me, she was terrified of the bird! So - the bird is
supposedly about 8 months old and grandma was to elderly/sick to tame and
care for her so she was locked up in a cage all this time.
I let her stay in the cage yesterday and get used to the new surroundings.
Today I gave her alot of free-time. Exploring and checking things out.
She even landed on my finger once when I held it out perch-style. I think it
was a fluke but maybe a good sign? I really want to socialize her and get
her used to & happy about being handled. the 1st time she was out there was
alot of nipping at me when I picker her up to return her to her cage. The
2nd time she was nicer.
Do you think she will become accustomed to us or would I be better off
getting her a mate and letting them hang out in the cage? I think 8 months
isn' too late, is it?
Can anyone give me some pointers on helping "tame" this birdy? Also - I have
read conflicting things on diet - any help there?
Thanks alot-
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| Vinman |
If its you intention to bond with this bird do not get it a mate. Otherwise
they will bond to each other and never to you. Also you will never hear the
end of it as lovebirds have an annoying squawk that will drive you crazy.
Just try to visit your local bird specialty store that carries love birds
and you'll see what I mean. If you want to bond with it then do give it lots
of playtime out of the cage but beware in order to "tame" it you will have
get used to clipping its wings or have someone else do it as if it flies
then it will be harder to tame and the dangers associated with flying
indoors are plentiful.
Best thing at the moment is to read up all you can about lovebirds (books,
internet sources) and make it feel as comfortable as possible in its new
surroundings! Good luck!
"Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
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> Hi -
>
> I just got a Peach Faced Love Bird yesterday, the owner was an elderly
> woman
> and, actually - she passed away (at age 90) it was her granddaughter that
> placed the bird with me, she was terrified of the bird! So - the bird is
> supposedly about 8 months old and grandma was to elderly/sick to tame and
> care for her so she was locked up in a cage all this time.
>
> I let her stay in the cage yesterday and get used to the new surroundings.
> Today I gave her alot of free-time. Exploring and checking things out.
>
> She even landed on my finger once when I held it out perch-style. I think
> it
> was a fluke but maybe a good sign? I really want to socialize her and get
> her used to & happy about being handled. the 1st time she was out there
> was
> alot of nipping at me when I picker her up to return her to her cage. The
> 2nd time she was nicer.
>
> Do you think she will become accustomed to us or would I be better off
> getting her a mate and letting them hang out in the cage? I think 8 months
> isn' too late, is it?
>
> Can anyone give me some pointers on helping "tame" this birdy? Also - I
> have
> read conflicting things on diet - any help there?
>
> Thanks alot-
>
>
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| Alex Clayton |
"Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
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> Hi -
>
> I just got a Peach Faced Love Bird yesterday, the owner was an elderly
> woman
> and, actually - she passed away (at age 90) it was her granddaughter that
> placed the bird with me, she was terrified of the bird! So - the bird is
> supposedly about 8 months old and grandma was to elderly/sick to tame and
> care for her so she was locked up in a cage all this time.
>
> I let her stay in the cage yesterday and get used to the new surroundings.
> Today I gave her alot of free-time. Exploring and checking things out.
>
> She even landed on my finger once when I held it out perch-style. I think
> it
> was a fluke but maybe a good sign? I really want to socialize her and get
> her used to & happy about being handled. the 1st time she was out there
> was
> alot of nipping at me when I picker her up to return her to her cage. The
> 2nd time she was nicer.
>
> Do you think she will become accustomed to us or would I be better off
> getting her a mate and letting them hang out in the cage? I think 8 months
> isn' too late, is it?
>
> Can anyone give me some pointers on helping "tame" this birdy? Also - I
> have
> read conflicting things on diet - any help there?
>
> Thanks alot-
>
>
With a LB, especially a new to your home LB, if all you got was "nipped" you
are well on the way to having a great pet already. These birds are notorious
for being VERY aggressive. They will take on another bird of any size. They
can, if they want, immediately draw blood. If the bird is just nipping, it
is obviously choosing not to bite.
You sound like you are doing the right things. Spend time with the bird,
several times a day. When you have to put it back in it's cage, try not to
pick it up, if you can avoid it. If you can get it to perch on a finger,
then move it back to the cage it will be a lot less scared. It takes time,
but you are already getting there. Keep us posted on how it goes.
--
25% graduate functional illiterates. We should remove the warning labels
from everything and let nature take care of the problem.
Peter Weisbach
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| Dropped 21 |
"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
> news:Ro34d.4856$3Y3.6523897@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> > Hi -
> >
> > I just got a Peach Faced Love Bird yesterday, the owner was an elderly
> > woman
> > and, actually - she passed away (at age 90) it was her granddaughter
that
> > placed the bird with me, she was terrified of the bird! So - the bird is
> > supposedly about 8 months old and grandma was to elderly/sick to tame
and
> > care for her so she was locked up in a cage all this time.
> >
> > I let her stay in the cage yesterday and get used to the new
surroundings.
> > Today I gave her alot of free-time. Exploring and checking things out.
> >
> > She even landed on my finger once when I held it out perch-style. I
think
> > it
> > was a fluke but maybe a good sign? I really want to socialize her and
get
> > her used to & happy about being handled. the 1st time she was out there
> > was
> > alot of nipping at me when I picker her up to return her to her cage.
The
> > 2nd time she was nicer.
> >
> > Do you think she will become accustomed to us or would I be better off
> > getting her a mate and letting them hang out in the cage? I think 8
months
> > isn' too late, is it?
> >
> > Can anyone give me some pointers on helping "tame" this birdy? Also - I
> > have
> > read conflicting things on diet - any help there?
> >
> > Thanks alot-
> >
> >
>
> With a LB, especially a new to your home LB, if all you got was "nipped"
you
> are well on the way to having a great pet already. These birds are
notorious
> for being VERY aggressive. They will take on another bird of any size.
They
> can, if they want, immediately draw blood. If the bird is just nipping, it
> is obviously choosing not to bite.
> You sound like you are doing the right things. Spend time with the
bird,
> several times a day. When you have to put it back in it's cage, try not to
> pick it up, if you can avoid it. If you can get it to perch on a finger,
> then move it back to the cage it will be a lot less scared. It takes time,
> but you are already getting there. Keep us posted on how it goes.
> --
> 25% graduate functional illiterates. We should remove the warning labels
> from everything and let nature take care of the problem.
> Peter Weisbach
>
>
>
Thanks
I've been pretty mellow about letting her stay out as long as she wants. She
will fly back to her cage and go inside when she's fed up with my toddler
shrieking at her. Poor birdy!
I only had her land on my finger the one time. I also held her twice and
tried to pet and snuggle her head and neck, the cockatiels love it but I
guess LBs are different LOL - she didn't hate it but it didn't have her
cooing.
I don't know if i should attempt clipping the wings myself or bring her
someplace.
right now she swoops all over - well, if i go too close or if my son runs at
her!!!
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| Alex Clayton |
"Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
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>
>
> I've been pretty mellow about letting her stay out as long as she wants.
> She
> will fly back to her cage and go inside when she's fed up with my toddler
> shrieking at her. Poor birdy!
>
> I only had her land on my finger the one time. I also held her twice and
> tried to pet and snuggle her head and neck, the cockatiels love it but I
> guess LBs are different LOL - she didn't hate it but it didn't have her
> cooing.
>
> I don't know if i should attempt clipping the wings myself or bring her
> someplace.
> right now she swoops all over - well, if i go too close or if my son runs
> at
> her!!!
>
>
If you can be 100% sure no one is going to let her get outside free flying
is fine. You have to remember if she ever gets out you will most likely
never see her alive again. If you decide to clip her it's easy to do, but
it would be good to have someone show you how once, and do so a little at a
time. You can clip a little at a time till you reduce the flying ability
enough, with out the bird just falling to the floor. Have fun, LBs can make
a great pet. They have a lot of personality.
--
25% graduate functional illiterates. We should remove the warning labels
from everything and let nature take care of the problem.
Peter Weisbach
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| Dropped 21 |
"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
> news:Ski4d.738$6X1.2075308@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> >
> >
> > I've been pretty mellow about letting her stay out as long as she wants.
> > She
> > will fly back to her cage and go inside when she's fed up with my
toddler
> > shrieking at her. Poor birdy!
> >
> > I only had her land on my finger the one time. I also held her twice and
> > tried to pet and snuggle her head and neck, the cockatiels love it but I
> > guess LBs are different LOL - she didn't hate it but it didn't have her
> > cooing.
> >
> > I don't know if i should attempt clipping the wings myself or bring her
> > someplace.
> > right now she swoops all over - well, if i go too close or if my son
runs
> > at
> > her!!!
> >
> >
>
> If you can be 100% sure no one is going to let her get outside free flying
> is fine. You have to remember if she ever gets out you will most likely
> never see her alive again. If you decide to clip her it's easy to do, but
> it would be good to have someone show you how once, and do so a little at
a
> time. You can clip a little at a time till you reduce the flying ability
> enough, with out the bird just falling to the floor. Have fun, LBs can
make
> a great pet. They have a lot of personality.
> --
> 25% graduate functional illiterates. We should remove the warning labels
> from everything and let nature take care of the problem.
> Peter Weisbach
>
>
>
She's awesome and very nice but someone else said to clip the wings if I
want to tame her. As it is if I get too close she flies off. But I had to
scoop her up and hold her to get her in her cage (in a hurry to get out of
the house) - she resisted and nipped a bit but not hard, I guess she likes
me :)
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| Vinman |
Xref: 127.0.0.1 rec.pets.birds:208620
It was I that suggested clipping her wings. What that does is make her rely
on you to finger perch her back up to a height she is comfortable with. This
will make her learn to trust you more and bond with you.
"Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
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>
> "Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:mEj4d.7208$gG4.5566@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> "Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
>> news:Ski4d.738$6X1.2075308@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
>> >
>> >
>> > I've been pretty mellow about letting her stay out as long as she
>> > wants.
>> > She
>> > will fly back to her cage and go inside when she's fed up with my
> toddler
>> > shrieking at her. Poor birdy!
>> >
>> > I only had her land on my finger the one time. I also held her twice
>> > and
>> > tried to pet and snuggle her head and neck, the cockatiels love it but
>> > I
>> > guess LBs are different LOL - she didn't hate it but it didn't have her
>> > cooing.
>> >
>> > I don't know if i should attempt clipping the wings myself or bring her
>> > someplace.
>> > right now she swoops all over - well, if i go too close or if my son
> runs
>> > at
>> > her!!!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> If you can be 100% sure no one is going to let her get outside free
>> flying
>> is fine. You have to remember if she ever gets out you will most likely
>> never see her alive again. If you decide to clip her it's easy to do,
>> but
>> it would be good to have someone show you how once, and do so a little at
> a
>> time. You can clip a little at a time till you reduce the flying ability
>> enough, with out the bird just falling to the floor. Have fun, LBs can
> make
>> a great pet. They have a lot of personality.
>> --
>> 25% graduate functional illiterates. We should remove the warning labels
>> from everything and let nature take care of the problem.
>> Peter Weisbach
>>
>>
>>
>
> She's awesome and very nice but someone else said to clip the wings if I
> want to tame her. As it is if I get too close she flies off. But I had to
> scoop her up and hold her to get her in her cage (in a hurry to get out of
> the house) - she resisted and nipped a bit but not hard, I guess she likes
> me :)
>
>
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>
> "Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:9hh4d.165$zG1.65@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> "Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
>> news:Ro34d.4856$3Y3.6523897@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
>> > Hi -
>> >
>> > I just got a Peach Faced Love Bird yesterday, the owner was an
>> > elderly woman and, actually - she passed away (at age 90) it was her
>> > granddaughter that placed the bird with me, she was terrified of the
>> > bird! So - the bird is supposedly about 8 months old and grandma was
>> > to elderly/sick to tame and care for her so she was locked up in a
>> > cage all this time.
>> >
>> > I let her stay in the cage yesterday and get used to the new
>> > surroundings. Today I gave her alot of free-time. Exploring and
>> > checking things out.
>> >
>> > She even landed on my finger once when I held it out perch-style. I
>> > think it was a fluke but maybe a good sign? I really want to
>> > socialize her and get her used to & happy about being handled. the
>> > 1st time she was out there was alot of nipping at me when I picker
>> > her up to return her to her cage. The 2nd time she was nicer.
>> >
>> > Do you think she will become accustomed to us or would I be better
>> > off getting her a mate and letting them hang out in the cage? I think
>> > 8 months isn' too late, is it?
>> >
>> > Can anyone give me some pointers on helping "tame" this birdy? Also -
>> > I have read conflicting things on diet - any help there?
>> >
>> > Thanks alot-
>> >
>> >
>>
>> With a LB, especially a new to your home LB, if all you got was
>> "nipped" you are well on the way to having a great pet already. These
>> birds are notorious for being VERY aggressive. They will take on
>> another bird of any size. They can, if they want, immediately draw
>> blood. If the bird is just nipping, it is obviously choosing not to
>> bite.
>> You sound like you are doing the right things. Spend time with the
> bird, several times a day. When you have to put it back in it's cage,
> try not to pick it up, if you can avoid it. If you can get it to perch
> on a finger, then move it back to the cage it will be a lot less scared.
> It takes time, but you are already getting there. Keep us posted on how
> it goes. --
>> 25% graduate functional illiterates. We should remove the warning
>> labels from everything and let nature take care of the problem.
>> Peter Weisbach
>>
>>
>>
>
> Thanks
>
> I've been pretty mellow about letting her stay out as long as she wants.
> She will fly back to her cage and go inside when she's fed up with my
> toddler shrieking at her. Poor birdy!
>
> I only had her land on my finger the one time. I also held her twice and
> tried to pet and snuggle her head and neck, the cockatiels love it but I
> guess LBs are different LOL - she didn't hate it but it didn't have her
> cooing.
>
> I don't know if i should attempt clipping the wings myself or bring her
> someplace. right now she swoops all over - well, if i go too close or if
> my son runs at her!!!
>
>
>
I also have both a Lovebird and a 'Tiel, and like Alex has said, they can
and will attack other birds even IF that other bird is bigger then they
are.
Mine is also I guess a little more mellow then most. As he doesn't have
the "shreik" that others have said. If yours hasn't already don't be too
surprise IF he/she tries to take a bath in his/her water cup. Mine does
this ALL the time, even when I went from a water cup to one of those
gravity type water feeders. The type that usually comes with a "matching"
seed feeder. I gave up trying to "break" mine of this habit and attached
a bird bath to it's cage. Now IF it want's to take a bath it can, and IF
it wants a drink it can do that as well.
Also as I think Alex mentioned they CAN draw blood (but then so can any of
our pets) so watch their body langage.
For the petting/snuggling mine is what I jokingly refer to as an "avian
slut." He'll let anyone and everyone pet him,
snuggle him all day long or as long as the person is willing to do it.
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> "Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> I've been pretty mellow about letting her stay out as long as she
>> wants. She
>> will fly back to her cage and go inside when she's fed up with my
>> toddler shrieking at her. Poor birdy!
>>
>> I only had her land on my finger the one time. I also held her twice
>> and tried to pet and snuggle her head and neck, the cockatiels love it
>> but I guess LBs are different LOL - she didn't hate it but it didn't
>> have her cooing.
>>
>> I don't know if i should attempt clipping the wings myself or bring her
>> someplace. right now she swoops all over - well, if i go too close or
>> if my son runs at her!!!
>>
>>
>
> If you can be 100% sure no one is going to let her get outside free
> flying is fine. You have to remember if she ever gets out you will most
> likely never see her alive again. If you decide to clip her it's easy
> to do, but it would be good to have someone show you how once, and do so
> a little at a time. You can clip a little at a time till you reduce the
> flying ability enough, with out the bird just falling to the floor. Have
> fun, LBs can make a great pet. They have a lot of personality.
Alex,
I'd say that they have enough PERSONALITY to fill a dozen Blue and Gold
Macaws
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"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
> news:Ski4d.738$6X1.2075308@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> >
> >
> > I've been pretty mellow about letting her stay out as long as she wants.
> > She
> > will fly back to her cage and go inside when she's fed up with my
toddler
> > shrieking at her. Poor birdy!
> >
> > I only had her land on my finger the one time. I also held her twice and
> > tried to pet and snuggle her head and neck, the cockatiels love it but I
> > guess LBs are different LOL - she didn't hate it but it didn't have her
> > cooing.
> >
> > I don't know if i should attempt clipping the wings myself or bring her
> > someplace.
> > right now she swoops all over - well, if i go too close or if my son
runs
> > at
> > her!!!
> >
> >
>
> If you can be 100% sure no one is going to let her get outside free flying
> is fine. You have to remember if she ever gets out you will most likely
> never see her alive again. If you decide to clip her it's easy to do, but
> it would be good to have someone show you how once, and do so a little at
a
> time. You can clip a little at a time till you reduce the flying ability
> enough, with out the bird just falling to the floor. Have fun, LBs can
make
> a great pet. They have a lot of personality.
Having a clipped bird with small kids would worry me greatly. It has
virtally no chance of escaping from a running child and could get killed by
a falling child or getting stepped on :0(
I suppose having unclipped birds with the risk of small kids allowing them
to escape is just as worrying though.
The fact that the OP admits she allows her small kid to "run at" the bird
would worry me also.
I have no faith at all in today's parents ability to protect their small
pets from unruly kids so I simply refuse to rehome to anyone with small
kids.
And yes I am a mean old nasty person, and of *course* each parent of small
kids will swear that *their* child is sweet, well behaved and wouldn't
*dream* of hurting an animal etc etc etc, and if the small pet retaliates
and takes a chunk out of the little darling's finger, the animal is deemed
'nasty' or 'mean' and if it is lucky it is rehomed, if not, either killed or
set free.
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"Vinman" <vinman@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> It was I that suggested clipping her wings. What that does is make her
rely
> on you to finger perch her back up to a height she is comfortable with.
This
> will make her learn to trust you more and bond with you.
Wow I must be amazingly talented then. None of mine is usually clipped and
most of them trust me and have bonded with me.If I walk into the large mixed
aviary all the flighted birds in there come and sit on whichever part of my
body they can get to.
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| Dropped 21 |
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>
> "Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > "Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
> > news:Ski4d.738$6X1.2075308@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> > >
> > >
> > > I've been pretty mellow about letting her stay out as long as she
wants.
> > > She
> > > will fly back to her cage and go inside when she's fed up with my
> toddler
> > > shrieking at her. Poor birdy!
> > >
> > > I only had her land on my finger the one time. I also held her twice
and
> > > tried to pet and snuggle her head and neck, the cockatiels love it but
I
> > > guess LBs are different LOL - she didn't hate it but it didn't have
her
> > > cooing.
> > >
> > > I don't know if i should attempt clipping the wings myself or bring
her
> > > someplace.
> > > right now she swoops all over - well, if i go too close or if my son
> runs
> > > at
> > > her!!!
> > >
> > >
> >
> > If you can be 100% sure no one is going to let her get outside free
flying
> > is fine. You have to remember if she ever gets out you will most likely
> > never see her alive again. If you decide to clip her it's easy to do,
but
> > it would be good to have someone show you how once, and do so a little
at
> a
> > time. You can clip a little at a time till you reduce the flying ability
> > enough, with out the bird just falling to the floor. Have fun, LBs can
> make
> > a great pet. They have a lot of personality.
> Having a clipped bird with small kids would worry me greatly. It has
> virtally no chance of escaping from a running child and could get killed
by
> a falling child or getting stepped on :0(
> I suppose having unclipped birds with the risk of small kids allowing
them
> to escape is just as worrying though.
> The fact that the OP admits she allows her small kid to "run at" the bird
> would worry me also.
> I have no faith at all in today's parents ability to protect their small
> pets from unruly kids so I simply refuse to rehome to anyone with small
> kids.
> And yes I am a mean old nasty person, and of *course* each parent of
small
> kids will swear that *their* child is sweet, well behaved and wouldn't
> *dream* of hurting an animal etc etc etc, and if the small pet retaliates
> and takes a chunk out of the little darling's finger, the animal is deemed
> 'nasty' or 'mean' and if it is lucky it is rehomed, if not, either killed
or
> set free.
>
>
My son is still learning the rules. I don't allow him to act like a maniac -
but he's 3 and he's a boy and he gets excited. He doesn't "run at" the bird,
he wants her to perch on his finger like the parakeets and cockatiels do.
Then she gets scared and flies off and he runs around after her all excited.
Don't be so quick to judge all of us horrible evil parents. This is not the
house of horrors. My son has been around birds since he was born, this is
our first time with a lovebird though.
Most of you old cranks probably grew up with a family dog who's tail you
pulled when nobody looked :-P ~~~~~~
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You got some issues! What's your point? Are you stating that all birds will
respond the way your birds do? Looks like somone is spending way too much
time with their birds! If you get the picture , she has a small child and
probably family to take care off and the bird is not her priority. She just
wants to tame it a little to the point where it is will be somewhat friendly
to the family!
Also, I don't think she has an aviary like you unless you count her house
with all the doors and windows closed an aviary!
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>
> "Vinman" <vinman@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:FQm4d.25148$YU2.9581@twister.socal.rr.com...
>> It was I that suggested clipping her wings. What that does is make her
> rely
>> on you to finger perch her back up to a height she is comfortable with.
> This
>> will make her learn to trust you more and bond with you.
>
> Wow I must be amazingly talented then. None of mine is usually clipped and
> most of them trust me and have bonded with me.If I walk into the large
> mixed
> aviary all the flighted birds in there come and sit on whichever part of
> my
> body they can get to.
>
>
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"Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
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> My son is still learning the rules. I don't allow him to act like a
maniac -
> but he's 3 and he's a boy and he gets excited. He doesn't "run at" the
bird,
Ahem. opied and pasted from one of your posts:
"> > I don't know if i should attempt clipping the wings myself or bring her
> > someplace.
> > right now she swoops all over - well, if i go too close or if my son
runs
> > at
> > her!!!"
> he wants her to perch on his finger like the parakeets and cockatiels do.
> Then she gets scared and flies off and he runs around after her all
excited.
But you already said he ran at her, now you admit he is chasing her.
> Don't be so quick to judge all of us horrible evil parents. This is not
the
> house of horrors. My son has been around birds since he was born, this is
> our first time with a lovebird though.
Well goody for you. He has been around birds all his life yet you have
never taught him not to chase or run at them.
See all parents think their kids are little darlings don't they?
>
> Most of you old cranks probably grew up with a family dog who's tail you
> pulled when nobody looked :-P ~~~~~~
>
>
I may be cranky, but nope we never had a dog and I never pulled a dogs tail
either. Had I done so it would have earned me a swift slap across the legs.
And I do have a now grown son and had he mistreated an animal he too would
have had a swift slap to the legs. He grew up with lots and lots of animals
and was taught to respect them. That was back in the olden days though when
moderate discipline wasn't considered to be child abuse.
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I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but lovebirds LOVE to crawl inside
and under things. Blankets, sofa covers, behind pillows, etc. You'de be
surprised where they get to. They will try to follow you as well. Many are
killed every year due to being sat/stepped on, door being opened into them,
etc. Some have even flown into toilets and drowned. Whatever you can
imagine, a lovebird has done.
Just be aware they will go most EVERYWHERE, and people living with them must
be very careful.
Dave
"Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
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> Hi -
>
> I just got a Peach Faced Love Bird yesterday, the owner was an elderly
woman
> and, actually - she passed away (at age 90) it was her granddaughter that
> placed the bird with me, she was terrified of the bird! So - the bird is
> supposedly about 8 months old and grandma was to elderly/sick to tame and
> care for her so she was locked up in a cage all this time.
>
> I let her stay in the cage yesterday and get used to the new surroundings.
> Today I gave her alot of free-time. Exploring and checking things out.
>
> She even landed on my finger once when I held it out perch-style. I think
it
> was a fluke but maybe a good sign? I really want to socialize her and get
> her used to & happy about being handled. the 1st time she was out there
was
> alot of nipping at me when I picker her up to return her to her cage. The
> 2nd time she was nicer.
>
> Do you think she will become accustomed to us or would I be better off
> getting her a mate and letting them hang out in the cage? I think 8 months
> isn' too late, is it?
>
> Can anyone give me some pointers on helping "tame" this birdy? Also - I
have
> read conflicting things on diet - any help there?
>
> Thanks alot-
>
>
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> I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but lovebirds LOVE to crawl
> inside and under things. Blankets, sofa covers, behind pillows, etc.
> You'de be surprised where they get to. They will try to follow you as
> well. Many are killed every year due to being sat/stepped on, door being
> opened into them, etc. Some have even flown into toilets and drowned.
> Whatever you can imagine, a lovebird has done.
>
> Just be aware they will go most EVERYWHERE, and people living with them
> must be very careful.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
David,
Sorry forgot about that. Mine LOVES to crawl inside of my shirt. I have
to say that feathers YES, claws NO. He'll
either come back out of the neck hole or out of one of my sleeves.
My Lovebird is also more of a chewer then my 'Tiel. If my Grandmother and
I are sitting at the table me reading or
surfing the Net, and she either reading or doing word puzzles she's had her
puzzle books "attacked" a number of times.
"He" usually ends up doing the nesting thing of tucking what he "shreds" up
under his tail feathers.
On the other hand, my 'Tiel isn't much of a chewer. Nor is he as
"courious" about things/spaces as my Lovebird. . .
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"David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
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> I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but lovebirds LOVE to crawl inside
> and under things. Blankets, sofa covers, behind pillows, etc. You'de be
> surprised where they get to. They will try to follow you as well. Many are
> killed every year due to being sat/stepped on, door being opened into
them,
> etc. Some have even flown into toilets and drowned. Whatever you can
> imagine, a lovebird has done.
>
> Just be aware they will go most EVERYWHERE, and people living with them
must
> be very careful.
>
> Dave
>
I agree - whenever I let a bird out I close doors to all the rooms that
would be off-limits and I never cook with a bird out!! I've heard of horror
stories with that too!
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>
> "ex WGS Hamm" <alpha.bitchREMOVETHIS@virgin.net> wrote in message
> news:bky4d.599$RM2.414@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
>>
>> Having a clipped bird with small kids would worry me greatly. It has
>> virtally no chance of escaping from a running child and could get
>> killed by a falling child or getting stepped on :0( I suppose having
>> unclipped birds with the risk of small kids allowing them to escape is
>> just as worrying though. The fact that the OP admits she allows her
>> small kid to "run at" the bird would worry me also. I have no faith at
>> all in today's parents ability to protect their small pets from unruly
>> kids so I simply refuse to rehome to anyone with small kids. And yes I
>> am a mean old nasty person, and of *course* each parent of small kids
>> will swear that *their* child is sweet, well behaved and wouldn't
>> *dream* of hurting an animal etc etc etc, and if the small pet
>> retaliates and takes a chunk out of the little darling's finger, the
>> animal is deemed 'nasty' or 'mean' and if it is lucky it is rehomed,
>> if not, either killed or set free.
Pam,
I think that it is time for you to check your meds. You don't think that
anyone BUT you and your hand picked group of
kiss ups has the ability to take care of pets, or small children. I
suppose that your child NEVER ran towards the
family pet, or pulled it's tail or anything else like that. . .
>>
>>
>
> My son is still learning the rules. I don't allow him to act like a
> maniac - but he's 3 and he's a boy and he gets excited. He doesn't "run
> at" the bird, he wants her to perch on his finger like the parakeets and
> cockatiels do. Then she gets scared and flies off and he runs around
> after her all excited. Don't be so quick to judge all of us horrible
> evil parents. This is not the house of horrors. My son has been around
> birds since he was born, this is our first time with a lovebird though.
>
> Most of you old cranks probably grew up with a family dog who's tail you
> pulled when nobody looked :-P ~~~~~~
>
>
Don't mind her, that's Pam "our" resident curmudgeon. She's of the opinion
that if someone doesn't do things according
to the "Great and Wise" Pam that they're wrong.
I am sure that with the exception of Pam and a few other "do no wrongs"
that almost everyone knew that you didn't mean
that your son "runs at" at your Lovebird in the sense that he is lunging at
it, but rather that he's chasing it in an
attempt to catch it.
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> You got some issues! What's your point? Are you stating that all birds
> will respond the way your birds do? Looks like somone is spending way
> too much time with their birds! If you get the picture , she has a small
> child and probably family to take care off and the bird is not her
> priority. She just wants to tame it a little to the point where it is
> will be somewhat friendly to the family!
>
> Also, I don't think she has an aviary like you unless you count her
> house with all the doors and windows closed an aviary!
>
>
> "ex WGS Hamm" <alpha.bitchREMOVETHIS@virgin.net> wrote in message
> news:gmy4d.601$RM2.455@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
>>
>> "Vinman" <vinman@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:FQm4d.25148$YU2.9581@twister.socal.rr.com...
>>> It was I that suggested clipping her wings. What that does is make her
>>> rely on you to finger perch her back up to a height she is comfortable
>>> with. This will make her learn to trust you more and bond with you.
>>
>> Wow I must be amazingly talented then. None of mine is usually clipped
Hey Pam, I thought you said that you DIDN'T clip your birds, now you're
saying that they aren't "usually" clipped??? Which one is it, do you clip
or don't you clip???
>> and most of them trust me and have bonded with me.If I walk into the
>> large mixed aviary all the flighted birds in there come and sit on
>> whichever part of my body they can get to.
>>
>>
>
>
>
Oh, yes let's not forget that Ms Pam knows her birds so well that she
mixes speices. Such as old world and new world parrots in the same
cage/aviary.
I am sure that it is safe to say that by the time you're done you'll have
gotten an "earfull" from Ms Pam and the
"right" way to do things.
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>
> "David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Ufidndl64c2TtM7cRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>> I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but lovebirds LOVE to crawl
>> inside and under things. Blankets, sofa covers, behind pillows, etc.
>> You'de be surprised where they get to. They will try to follow you as
>> well. Many are killed every year due to being sat/stepped on, door
>> being opened into them, etc. Some have even flown into toilets and
>> drowned. Whatever you can imagine, a lovebird has done.
>>
>> Just be aware they will go most EVERYWHERE, and people living with them
>> must be very careful.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
> I agree - whenever I let a bird out I close doors to all the rooms that
> would be off-limits and I never cook with a bird out!! I've heard of
> horror stories with that too!
>
>
>
Even if your bird(s) isn't/aren't out of their cage while you're cooking.
Cooking can still be deadly to them. If you
burn something while you're cooking the fumes can prove to be fatal. And
if you have cookware that has TeflonŽ or
similar non-stick coating. It can produce deadly fumes. Fumes that'll
effect our birds first and IF the coating gets
hot enough it'll even effect us humans. The "jury" is still out as to what
constitutes "overheating." There are those
who will say 300 degrees or 500 degrees.
All I know for sure is that I do not use TeflonŽ or similar non-stick
cookware in my house.
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"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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> And "Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> opened up and revealed to
> the world news:xoG4d.3653$6X1.6212363@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net:
>
> >
> > "David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:Ufidndl64c2TtM7cRVn-iw@comcast.com...
> >> I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but lovebirds LOVE to crawl
> >> inside and under things. Blankets, sofa covers, behind pillows, etc.
> >> You'de be surprised where they get to. They will try to follow you as
> >> well. Many are killed every year due to being sat/stepped on, door
> >> being opened into them, etc. Some have even flown into toilets and
> >> drowned. Whatever you can imagine, a lovebird has done.
> >>
> >> Just be aware they will go most EVERYWHERE, and people living with them
> >> must be very careful.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >
> > I agree - whenever I let a bird out I close doors to all the rooms that
> > would be off-limits and I never cook with a bird out!! I've heard of
> > horror stories with that too!
> >
> >
> >
>
> Even if your bird(s) isn't/aren't out of their cage while you're cooking.
> Cooking can still be deadly to them. If you
> burn something while you're cooking the fumes can prove to be fatal. And
> if you have cookware that has TeflonŽ or
> similar non-stick coating. It can produce deadly fumes. Fumes that'll
> effect our birds first and IF the coating gets
> hot enough it'll even effect us humans. The "jury" is still out as to
what
> constitutes "overheating." There are those
> who will say 300 degrees or 500 degrees.
>
> All I know for sure is that I do not use TeflonŽ or similar non-stick
> cookware in my house.
>
Yes, I'm aware of this. I also heard that candles are bad but I don't
remember why.
I was about to use the George Foreman grill and then had second thoughts. I
would imagine the non-stick coating on that would be a potential danger.
Do you know if having ventilation while cooking helps - like opeing the
window or putting on the kitchen fan?
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"Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
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>
>
> Yes, I'm aware of this. I also heard that candles are bad but I don't
> remember why.
>
> I was about to use the George Foreman grill and then had second thoughts.
> I
> would imagine the non-stick coating on that would be a potential danger.
>
> Do you know if having ventilation while cooking helps - like opeing the
> window or putting on the kitchen fan?
>
>
Scented candles are what you normally need to watch out for. The scents can
often send out stuff that can be hard on birds. Things like "carpet fresh"
are the same. In general be real careful with anything scented. Birds air
sacs work much differently that our lungs, and it makes them much more
susceptible to "stuff" in the air, especially since they can't get away from
it.
As to the PTFE (Teflon) it's in all kinds of things in your house. The
problem is burning grease or fat, no matter what you burn it in. Many people
have a hard time with C or F conversion, but the temp at which that PTFE
will out gas is way above what it would take to have the food burning real
good. If you cook with the smoke alarm as a timer, it will not make any
difference to the birds if you use stainless steel pans, they will still
die.
Of course ventilation is very good. If you have a range hood that vents to
the outside use it when you cook, and of course make sure the birds are not
in the same room as the cooking, and remember to watch it with the self
cleaning oven. It does the same thing, burns the crud and the smoke it
creates can kill.
If you REALLY care about PTFE and the facts Dupont has a site that
explains it. A lot of people like to pretend it's not there because it just
gives the facts not hype, but if you really want to know it will tell you
the truth.
--
25% graduate functional illiterates. We should remove the warning labels
from everything and let nature take care of the problem.
Peter Weisbach
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:13:16 GMT, "Dropped 21"
<NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote:
><(((*> Most of you old cranks probably grew up with a family dog who's tail you
><(((*> pulled when nobody looked :-P ~~~~~~
We had a beagle, and you don't want to know what we used to do to
his ears...
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| Dropped 21 |
<waitingforgodot@samuel.beckett> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:13:16 GMT, "Dropped 21"
> <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote:
>
> ><(((*> Most of you old cranks probably grew up with a family dog who's
tail you
> ><(((*> pulled when nobody looked :-P ~~~~~~
>
> We had a beagle, and you don't want to know what we used to do to
> his ears...
>
> Tara J. Ballance
> Montreal, Canada
Ohhh myyyyyyy!
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| Dropped 21 |
"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:65J4d.1460$zG1.683@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> "Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
> news:6FI4d.4045$6X1.6655718@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> >
> >
> > Yes, I'm aware of this. I also heard that candles are bad but I don't
> > remember why.
> >
> > I was about to use the George Foreman grill and then had second
thoughts.
> > I
> > would imagine the non-stick coating on that would be a potential danger.
> >
> > Do you know if having ventilation while cooking helps - like opeing the
> > window or putting on the kitchen fan?
> >
> >
>
> Scented candles are what you normally need to watch out for. The scents
can
> often send out stuff that can be hard on birds. Things like "carpet fresh"
> are the same. In general be real careful with anything scented. Birds air
> sacs work much differently that our lungs, and it makes them much more
> susceptible to "stuff" in the air, especially since they can't get away
from
> it.
> As to the PTFE (Teflon) it's in all kinds of things in your house. The
> problem is burning grease or fat, no matter what you burn it in. Many
people
> have a hard time with C or F conversion, but the temp at which that PTFE
> will out gas is way above what it would take to have the food burning real
> good. If you cook with the smoke alarm as a timer, it will not make any
> difference to the birds if you use stainless steel pans, they will still
> die.
> Of course ventilation is very good. If you have a range hood that vents
to
> the outside use it when you cook, and of course make sure the birds are
not
> in the same room as the cooking, and remember to watch it with the self
> cleaning oven. It does the same thing, burns the crud and the smoke it
> creates can kill.
> If you REALLY care about PTFE and the facts Dupont has a site that
> explains it. A lot of people like to pretend it's not there because it
just
> gives the facts not hype, but if you really want to know it will tell you
> the truth.
> --
> 25% graduate functional illiterates. We should remove the warning labels
> from everything and let nature take care of the problem.
> Peter Weisbach
>
>
>
Thanks for the info. i'll have to see what I can learn
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> "Dropped 21" <NoSpam@SorryCharlie.phhhttttt> wrote in message
> news:6FI4d.4045$6X1.6655718@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
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>> Yes, I'm aware of this. I also heard that candles are bad but I don't
>> remember why.
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>> I was about to use the George Foreman grill and then had second
>> thoughts. I would imagine the non-stick coating on that would be a
>> potential danger.
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>> Do you know if having ventilation while cooking helps - like opeing the
>> window or putting on the kitchen fan?
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> Scented candles are what you normally need to watch out for. The scents
> can often send out stuff that can be hard on birds. Things like "carpet
> fresh" are the same. In general be real careful with anything scented.
> Birds air sacs work much differently that our lungs, and it makes them
> much more susceptible to "stuff" in the air, especially since they can't
> get away from it.
> As to the PTFE (Teflon) it's in all kinds of things in your house. The
> problem is burning grease or fat, no matter what you burn it in. Many
> people have a hard time with C or F conversion, but the temp at which
> that PTFE will out gas is way above what it would take to have the
> food burning real good. If you cook with the smoke alarm as a timer, it
> will not make any difference to the birds if you use stainless steel
> pans, they will still die. Of course ventilation is very good. If you
> have a range hood that vents to the outside use it when you cook, and of
> course make sure the birds are not in the same room as the cooking, and
> remember to watch it with the self cleaning oven. It does the same
> thing, burns the crud and the smoke it creates can kill. If you REALLY
> care about PTFE and the facts Dupont has a site that explains it. A lot
> of people like to pretend it's not there because it just gives the facts
> not hype, but if you really want to know it will tell you the truth.
Alex,
Before I purchase anything I check to see if it has TeflonŽ or PTFE listed
I do not purchase it. As I would much rather err on the side of caution.
I think in the past that you've that there is TeflonŽ or PTFE inside of
computers, where? I've had my desktop apart so many times I can break it
down and reassemble it with my eyes closed. My laptop has also been
"broken" down for repairs, upgrades, etc. And I didn't see anything
inside of it that looked as if it had either TeflonŽ or PTFE inside of or
on it.
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> "Vinman" <vinman@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> It was I that suggested clipping her wings. What that does is make her
> rely
>> on you to finger perch her back up to a height she is comfortable with.
> This
>> will make her learn to trust you more and bond with you.
>
> Wow I must be amazingly talented then. None of mine is usually clipped and
> most of them trust me and have bonded with me.If I walk into the large
> mixed
> aviary all the flighted birds in there come and sit on whichever part of
> my
> body they can get to.
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Just watch out for pockets and long sleeves! ... <g> It seems lovebirds
especially like crawling in those places. If you've got a ponytail, they'll
undo that for you too ...
My lovie was clipped when I got her, but I let the feathers grow. Outside
the cage, she wanted nothing to do with anything that wasn't ... well ...
one of us.
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