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Manik Raina
Hi friends,

I am writing to you about a startling phenomenon i have
observed in my budgies.

My budgies are pre-adolesent and already, some of them are
showing precociousness compared to others in intelligence
and ability to observe events around them while others remain
average. I have noticed these very individuals tend to become
leaders of budgie groups later. I would love to hear from you
if you have had similar experiences where budgies have shown
certain traits from their younger days.

Manik
Kevin

"Manik Raina" <manikraina@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47a3db28.0409090107.7327de8e@posting.google.com...
> Hi friends,
>
> I am writing to you about a startling phenomenon i have
> observed in my budgies.
>
> My budgies are pre-adolesent and already, some of them are
> showing precociousness compared to others in intelligence
> and ability to observe events around them while others remain
> average. I have noticed these very individuals tend to become
> leaders of budgie groups later. I would love to hear from you
> if you have had similar experiences where budgies have shown
> certain traits from their younger days.
>
> Manik



You mean that they're not all identical? What a revelation! Do you think
you should inform the experst of this incredible discovery? The budgie
world will never be the same.


AlanWilliams

"Manik Raina" <manikraina@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47a3db28.0409090107.7327de8e@posting.google.com...
> Hi friends,
>
> I am writing to you about a startling phenomenon i have
> observed in my budgies.
>
> My budgies are pre-adolesent and already, some of them are
> showing precociousness compared to others in intelligence
> and ability to observe events around them while others remain
> average. I have noticed these very individuals tend to become
> leaders of budgie groups later. I would love to hear from you
> if you have had similar experiences where budgies have shown
> certain traits from their younger days.


IME dogs, hamsters, lovebirds and even goldfish (yes fish not finch) keep
and develop their childhood traits just like humans do. I doubt that anyone
who knows budgies would be surprised by the idea that they have
personalities that show when young.

wrt intelligence, what differences in budgies have you noticed? One of the
tests for intelligence is the ability to recognise that an image in a mirror
is "you" and not another human/bird, Almost all of my lovebirds do this;
one of those that can't displays other signs of probable mental retardation.
As budgies seem to be fascinated by mirrors (unless it's just tradition), I
guess, and it's just a guess, that most of them would fail that test.

> Manik


Alan


Toucanldy

>From: "AlanWilliams" alanrw@monemvasia.freeserve.co.uk


>As budgies seem to be fascinated by mirrors (unless it's just tradition), I
>guess, and it's just a guess, that most of them would fail that test.


Hmmm. Noted, prejudice against pigeons, and now budgies. :(

Regards
AlanWilliams

"Toucanldy" <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> >From: "AlanWilliams" alanrw@monemvasia.freeserve.co.uk

>
> >As budgies seem to be fascinated by mirrors (unless it's just tradition),

I
> >guess, and it's just a guess, that most of them would fail that test.

>
> Hmmm. Noted, prejudice against pigeons, and now budgies. :(


Well that advanced the thread a lot.

> Regards


No more.

Alan


Manik Raina
"AlanWilliams" <alanrw@monemvasia.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<chu9qm$qus$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> "Manik Raina" <manikraina@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47a3db28.0409090107.7327de8e@posting.google.com...
> > Hi friends,
> >
> > I am writing to you about a startling phenomenon i have
> > observed in my budgies.
> >
> > My budgies are pre-adolesent and already, some of them are
> > showing precociousness compared to others in intelligence
> > and ability to observe events around them while others remain
> > average. I have noticed these very individuals tend to become
> > leaders of budgie groups later. I would love to hear from you
> > if you have had similar experiences where budgies have shown
> > certain traits from their younger days.

>
> IME dogs, hamsters, lovebirds and even goldfish (yes fish not finch) keep
> and develop their childhood traits just like humans do. I doubt that anyone
> who knows budgies would be surprised by the idea that they have
> personalities that show when young.
>
> wrt intelligence, what differences in budgies have you noticed? One of the
> tests for intelligence is the ability to recognise that an image in a mirror
> is "you" and not another human/bird, Almost all of my lovebirds do this;
> one of those that can't displays other signs of probable mental retardation.
> As budgies seem to be fascinated by mirrors (unless it's just tradition), I
> guess, and it's just a guess, that most of them would fail that test.
>


Perhaps i should have been more specific, my birds are clearly segregated
into 2 groups. the leaders and the followers, even though they're the same
age. The leaders pull off stunts like bending iron bars to leave and enter
the cage when they wish, understanding when you're coming near them for with
food or just to pet them, i think one of my birds even knows the limits of
my patience and tests it by biting my hand and observing my reaction. This
contrast is to my mind quite startling , which may not be news to many of
you but is amazing nonetheless.

The second group consists of individuals who let others take the risk, though
adorable these birds merely follow the leads of other birds.

> > Manik

>
> Alan

Manik Raina
"Kevin" <misterjynx@thywillbedone.com> wrote in message news:<8Zv0d.5317$Mm2.593@hydra.nntpserver.com>...
> "Manik Raina" <manikraina@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47a3db28.0409090107.7327de8e@posting.google.com...
> > Hi friends,
> >
> > I am writing to you about a startling phenomenon i have
> > observed in my budgies.
> >
> > My budgies are pre-adolesent and already, some of them are
> > showing precociousness compared to others in intelligence
> > and ability to observe events around them while others remain
> > average. I have noticed these very individuals tend to become
> > leaders of budgie groups later. I would love to hear from you
> > if you have had similar experiences where budgies have shown
> > certain traits from their younger days.
> >
> > Manik

>
>
> You mean that they're not all identical? What a revelation! Do you think
> you should inform the experst of this incredible discovery? The budgie
> world will never be the same.


I would like to clarify if this newsgroup is a meeting ground for
budgie enthusiasts who can sometimes state something which is not
new to others or a scientific journal where only PHD's in Ornithology
can participate and must state something which is essentially new.

Though i could have been more specific i admit, and i have made
another post in this thread clarifying that, (you could read that
if you wished) i am nonetheless a little bruised by your misplaced
sarcasm.

Thought i get that straight.

Manik
Kevin

"Manik Raina" <manikraina@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47a3db28.0409141914.1fdc4866@posting.google.com...
>
> Perhaps i should have been more specific, my birds are clearly segregated
> into 2 groups. the leaders and the followers, even though they're the same
> age. The leaders pull off stunts like bending iron bars to leave and enter
> the cage when they wish, understanding when you're coming near them for
> with
> food or just to pet them, i think one of my birds even knows the limits of
> my patience and tests it by biting my hand and observing my reaction. This
> contrast is to my mind quite startling , which may not be news to many of
> you but is amazing nonetheless.
>
> The second group consists of individuals who let others take the risk,
> though
> adorable these birds merely follow the leads of other birds.
>
>> > Manik



Being more specific doesn't help you in the least. The fact that budgies
(or any bird or animal) have different personality traits is not a news
flash. The fact that these traits begin to show early in life is also
nothing new. The fact that you think it's interesting and worthy of
discussion is a testament to your ignorance. Note that this thread is a
discussion of your ignorance and not of your "discovery"



Kevin

"Manik Raina" <manikraina@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47a3db28.0409141927.19ec93bb@posting.google.com...
>
> I would like to clarify if this newsgroup is a meeting ground for
> budgie enthusiasts who can sometimes state something which is not
> new to others or a scientific journal where only PHD's in Ornithology
> can participate and must state something which is essentially new.


If you want a budgie group try alt.pets.parrots.budgerigars But don't
expect to escape me.


>
> Though i could have been more specific i admit, and i have made
> another post in this thread clarifying that, (you could read that
> if you wished)


I did read it. Being specific changed nothing.




i am nonetheless a little bruised by your misplaced
> sarcasm.


It was not misplaced.

>
> Thought i get that straight.
>
> Manik


The only thing you've accomplished is that you've assured your place in the
big book of dumb**** morons.




Digital_Cowboy

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>
> "Manik Raina" <manikraina@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47a3db28.0409141914.1fdc4866@posting.google.com...
>>
>> Perhaps i should have been more specific, my birds are clearly
>> segregated into 2 groups. the leaders and the followers, even though
>> they're the same age. The leaders pull off stunts like bending iron
>> bars to leave and enter the cage when they wish, understanding when
>> you're coming near them for with food or just to pet them, i think one
>> of my birds even knows the limits of my patience and tests it by biting
>> my hand and observing my reaction. This contrast is to my mind quite
>> startling , which may not be news to many of you but is amazing
>> nonetheless.
>>
>> The second group consists of individuals who let others take the risk,
>> though adorable these birds merely follow the leads of other birds.
>>
>>> > Manik

>
>
> Being more specific doesn't help you in the least. The fact that
> budgies (or any bird or animal) have different personality traits is not
> a news flash. The fact that these traits begin to show early in life is
> also nothing new. The fact that you think it's interesting and worthy
> of discussion is a testament to your ignorance. Note that this thread
> is a discussion of your ignorance and not of your "discovery"
>
>
>


Kevin,

One word "PLONK."

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