| Are new carpets toxic? Help! - CLICK HERE for the Pet Manual Forum Home Page |
| gal522 |
We're having a new carpet installed only in our family room today.
That is where our Congo African Grey lives in her cage. I'm going to
move her upstairs to a travel cage for at least a day because I'm
afraid the new carpet, padding, or something used in installation may
potentially be harmful.
Is this true? The carpet is Stainmaster. If it is potentially toxic,
how long do I need to keep her upstairs in the back room and/or what
measures do I need to take?
Thanks for your help. I've researched this online not finding
anything exactly on target.
Gail
|
|
|
| Rick |
"gal522" <galations522@cox.net> wrote in message news:3f6edac0.0408231121.6e787f4c@posting.google.com...
> We're having a new carpet installed only in our family room today.
> That is where our Congo African Grey lives in her cage. I'm going to
> move her upstairs to a travel cage for at least a day because I'm
> afraid the new carpet, padding, or something used in installation may
> potentially be harmful.
>
> Is this true? The carpet is Stainmaster. If it is potentially toxic,
> how long do I need to keep her upstairs in the back room and/or what
> measures do I need to take?
>
> Thanks for your help. I've researched this online not finding
> anything exactly on target.
Let your nose be your guide. Chances are, even if you
were to ask the installers, or the manufacturers of the
carpet, pad, etc you won't get a straight answer anyway.
If you can smell something from the new carpet it's likely
formaldehyde or other outgassing. Leave windows in the
room open for a week or two, or until the smell goes
away.
Rick
|
|
|
| Chad |
gal522 wrote:
> We're having a new carpet installed only in our family room today.
> That is where our Congo African Grey lives in her cage. I'm going to
> move her upstairs to a travel cage for at least a day because I'm
> afraid the new carpet, padding, or something used in installation may
> potentially be harmful.
>
> Is this true? The carpet is Stainmaster. If it is potentially toxic,
> how long do I need to keep her upstairs in the back room and/or what
> measures do I need to take?
>
> Thanks for your help. I've researched this online not finding
> anything exactly on target.
>
> Gail
If your new carpet has a stain guard it could very well be teflon based.
If that's the case, you should know that YES, teflon is poisonous
(even to us humans).
--
Chad Kovac
Aviary Info
Site Administrator
http://www.Aviary.info
Classifieds, Photos, Chat, Web Cameras, Forums, Auctions, Leg Band
Database, Breeder Database, Recipes + More
|
|
|
| Kimberlee |
Yes!!!
Not only are the carpets themselves toxic, but the adhesive and treatments
(stainmaster) are extremely toxic!
http://www.parrotparrot.com/articles/aa060900.htm
http://www.exoticbird.com/gillian/house.html
http://www.africangreys.com/hints/alex.htm
Check out the above links, and guard your CAG's fresh air very carefully.
Good luck.
~Kimberlee
gal522 wrote:
> We're having a new carpet installed only in our family room today.
> That is where our Congo African Grey lives in her cage. I'm going to
> move her upstairs to a travel cage for at least a day because I'm
> afraid the new carpet, padding, or something used in installation may
> potentially be harmful.
>
> Is this true? The carpet is Stainmaster. If it is potentially toxic,
> how long do I need to keep her upstairs in the back room and/or what
> measures do I need to take?
>
> Thanks for your help. I've researched this online not finding
> anything exactly on target.
>
> Gail
|
|
|
| Rick |
"Chad" <netnews@_remove_me_aviary.info> wrote in message news:PyvWc.220798$eM2.90388@attbi_s51...
> gal522 wrote:
> > We're having a new carpet installed only in our family room today.
> > That is where our Congo African Grey lives in her cage. I'm going to
> > move her upstairs to a travel cage for at least a day because I'm
> > afraid the new carpet, padding, or something used in installation may
> > potentially be harmful.
> >
> > Is this true? The carpet is Stainmaster. If it is potentially toxic,
> > how long do I need to keep her upstairs in the back room and/or what
> > measures do I need to take?
> >
> > Thanks for your help. I've researched this online not finding
> > anything exactly on target.
> >
> > Gail
>
> If your new carpet has a stain guard it could very well be teflon based.
> If that's the case, you should know that YES, teflon is poisonous
> (even to us humans).
Teflon poses a threat only when it's heated to temps
beyond 500F, e.g. overheated cookware. Do a little
more research.
Rick
|
|
|
| Digital_Cowboy |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
And "Rick" <me@privacy.net> opened up and revealed to the world
news:2ovurlFfflnuU1@uni-berlin.de:
> "Chad" <netnews@_remove_me_aviary.info> wrote in message
> news:PyvWc.220798$eM2.90388@attbi_s51...
>> gal522 wrote:
>> > We're having a new carpet installed only in our family room today.
>> > That is where our Congo African Grey lives in her cage. I'm going to
>> > move her upstairs to a travel cage for at least a day because I'm
>> > afraid the new carpet, padding, or something used in installation may
>> > potentially be harmful.
>> >
>> > Is this true? The carpet is Stainmaster. If it is potentially
>> > toxic, how long do I need to keep her upstairs in the back room
>> > and/or what measures do I need to take?
>> >
>> > Thanks for your help. I've researched this online not finding
>> > anything exactly on target.
>> >
>> > Gail
>>
>> If your new carpet has a stain guard it could very well be teflon
>> based.
>> If that's the case, you should know that YES, teflon is poisonous
>> (even to us humans).
>
> Teflon poses a threat only when it's heated to temps
> beyond 500F, e.g. overheated cookware. Do a little
> more research.
>
> Rick
>
>
>
Rick,
I thought that the tempature was more like 300F.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGP 8.0.3
iQA/AwUBQSuwBB/i52nbE9vTEQKPewCfTSo+ZVTTynNCONwlK4k5sYD6BqcAn1Rn
WuOcNk124IKyRg5Vl98jpgos
=1fpZ
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
--
Digital_Cowboy
Live Long and Prosper
___________________ _-_
\==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____
\_ \ \----._________.----/
\ \ / / `-_-'
__,--`.`-'..'-_
/____ ||-
`--.____,-'
|
|
|
| Paulo |
Apparently doesnt have to get hot to be somehow toxic.
Dupont is facing a lot of probelms lately
--
Paulo
"Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2ovurlFfflnuU1@uni-berlin.de...
> "Chad" <netnews@_remove_me_aviary.info> wrote in message
news:PyvWc.220798$eM2.90388@attbi_s51...
> > gal522 wrote:
> > > We're having a new carpet installed only in our family room today.
> > > That is where our Congo African Grey lives in her cage. I'm going to
> > > move her upstairs to a travel cage for at least a day because I'm
> > > afraid the new carpet, padding, or something used in installation may
> > > potentially be harmful.
> > >
> > > Is this true? The carpet is Stainmaster. If it is potentially toxic,
> > > how long do I need to keep her upstairs in the back room and/or what
> > > measures do I need to take?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help. I've researched this online not finding
> > > anything exactly on target.
> > >
> > > Gail
> >
> > If your new carpet has a stain guard it could very well be teflon based.
> > If that's the case, you should know that YES, teflon is poisonous
> > (even to us humans).
>
> Teflon poses a threat only when it's heated to temps
> beyond 500F, e.g. overheated cookware. Do a little
> more research.
>
> Rick
>
>
|
|
|
| Alex Clayton |
"Paulo" <noemail@sorry.com> wrote in message
news:xJOWc.14250$_H5.397323@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Apparently doesnt have to get hot to be somehow toxic.
> Dupont is facing a lot of probelms lately
>
> --
Then we are all in trouble. It's all over your home from the plumbing to the
wiring. Guess we will all have to move into tents?
--
25% graduate functional illiterates. We should remove the warning labels
from everything and let nature take care of the problem.
Peter Weisbach
|
|
|
| Dave Bugg |
Paulo wrote:
> Do you have any doubts about it?
Doubts about half-truths and lies? What do you think?
|
|
|
| Dave Bugg |
Digital_Cowboy wrote:
> Rick,
>
> I thought that the tempature was more like 300F.
Nope. It has tot be at a temp of 500F or higher.
|
|
|
| Alex Clayton |
"Dave Bugg" <deebuggatcharterdotnet> wrote in message
news:10ipg1ef5bs0v85@corp.supernews.com...
> Digital_Cowboy wrote:
>
> > Rick,
> >
> > I thought that the tempature was more like 300F.
>
> Nope. It has tot be at a temp of 500F or higher.
>
>
This comes from the Celsius vs. Fahrenheit. thing. Some time back someone
posted the Celsius # and ever since then people who want to believe PTFE is
the doom of us all latched onto that # as if it was fahrenheit. Not to
mention the computer they are using is full of PTFE, but I don't see them
throwing away the PC. <shrug>
--
25% graduate functional illiterates. We should remove the warning labels
from everything and let nature take care of the problem.
Peter Weisbach
|
|
|
| Chad |
Rick wrote:
> "Chad" <netnews@_remove_me_aviary.info> wrote in message news:PyvWc.220798$eM2.90388@attbi_s51...
>
>>gal522 wrote:
>>
>>>We're having a new carpet installed only in our family room today.
>>>That is where our Congo African Grey lives in her cage. I'm going to
>>>move her upstairs to a travel cage for at least a day because I'm
>>>afraid the new carpet, padding, or something used in installation may
>>>potentially be harmful.
>>>
>>>Is this true? The carpet is Stainmaster. If it is potentially toxic,
>>>how long do I need to keep her upstairs in the back room and/or what
>>>measures do I need to take?
>>>
>>>Thanks for your help. I've researched this online not finding
>>>anything exactly on target.
>>>
>>>Gail
>>
>>If your new carpet has a stain guard it could very well be teflon based.
>> If that's the case, you should know that YES, teflon is poisonous
>>(even to us humans).
>
>
> Teflon poses a threat only when it's heated to temps
> beyond 500F, e.g. overheated cookware. Do a little
> more research.
>
> Rick
>
>
Rick, you're wrong. All of the teflon added to the carpets doesn't stay
on them. It becomes airborne and is inhaled by people and pets. Look
into it.
Teflon PANS are only a problem when over-heated.
--
Chad Kovac
Aviary Info
Site Administrator
http://www.Aviary.info
Classifieds, Photos, Chat, Web Cameras, Forums, Auctions, Leg Band
Database, Breeder Database, Recipes + More
|
|
|
| Chad |
Alex Clayton wrote:
> "Paulo" <noemail@sorry.com> wrote in message
> news:xJOWc.14250$_H5.397323@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
>>Apparently doesnt have to get hot to be somehow toxic.
>>Dupont is facing a lot of probelms lately
>>
>>--
>
>
>
> Then we are all in trouble. It's all over your home from the plumbing to the
> wiring. Guess we will all have to move into tents?
Just like Asbestos. Seemed like a good idea at the time. Teflon is the
same way. So yes, move into a tent, just be sure it's not treated for
stains first. :P
--
Chad Kovac
Aviary Info
Site Administrator
http://www.Aviary.info
Classifieds, Photos, Chat, Web Cameras, Forums, Auctions, Leg Band
Database, Breeder Database, Recipes + More
|
|
|
| Rick |
"Chad" <netnews@_remove_me_aviary.info> wrote in message news:bctXc.50494$9d6.46968@attbi_s54...
> Rick wrote:
> > "Chad" <netnews@_remove_me_aviary.info> wrote in message news:PyvWc.220798$eM2.90388@attbi_s51...
> >
> >>gal522 wrote:
> >>
> >>>We're having a new carpet installed only in our family room today.
> >>>That is where our Congo African Grey lives in her cage. I'm going to
> >>>move her upstairs to a travel cage for at least a day because I'm
> >>>afraid the new carpet, padding, or something used in installation may
> >>>potentially be harmful.
> >>>
> >>>Is this true? The carpet is Stainmaster. If it is potentially toxic,
> >>>how long do I need to keep her upstairs in the back room and/or what
> >>>measures do I need to take?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for your help. I've researched this online not finding
> >>>anything exactly on target.
> >>>
> >>>Gail
> >>
> >>If your new carpet has a stain guard it could very well be teflon based.
> >> If that's the case, you should know that YES, teflon is poisonous
> >>(even to us humans).
> >
> >
> > Teflon poses a threat only when it's heated to temps
> > beyond 500F, e.g. overheated cookware. Do a little
> > more research.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
>
> Rick, you're wrong. All of the teflon added to the carpets doesn't stay
> on them. It becomes airborne and is inhaled by people and pets. Look
> into it.
> Teflon PANS are only a problem when over-heated.
So again I ask, is there a single documented case or study
that shows people or pets can become ill from unheated
Teflon? So far all I've read are anecdotal claims.
Rick
|
|
|
| Paulo |
Well, well, well...some stuff takes years before showing signs....
I think it is just a warning to be alert
--
Paulo
"Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2p773pFhsneaU1@uni-berlin.de...
> "Chad" <netnews@_remove_me_aviary.info> wrote in message
news:bctXc.50494$9d6.46968@attbi_s54...
> > Rick wrote:
> > > "Chad" <netnews@_remove_me_aviary.info> wrote in message
news:PyvWc.220798$eM2.90388@attbi_s51...
> > >
> > >>gal522 wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>We're having a new carpet installed only in our family room today.
> > >>>That is where our Congo African Grey lives in her cage. I'm going to
> > >>>move her upstairs to a travel cage for at least a day because I'm
> > >>>afraid the new carpet, padding, or something used in installation may
> > >>>potentially be harmful.
> > >>>
> > >>>Is this true? The carpet is Stainmaster. If it is potentially
toxic,
> > >>>how long do I need to keep her upstairs in the back room and/or what
> > >>>measures do I need to take?
> > >>>
> > >>>Thanks for your help. I've researched this online not finding
> > >>>anything exactly on target.
> > >>>
> > >>>Gail
> > >>
> > >>If your new carpet has a stain guard it could very well be teflon
based.
> > >> If that's the case, you should know that YES, teflon is poisonous
> > >>(even to us humans).
> > >
> > >
> > > Teflon poses a threat only when it's heated to temps
> > > beyond 500F, e.g. overheated cookware. Do a little
> > > more research.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Rick, you're wrong. All of the teflon added to the carpets doesn't stay
> > on them. It becomes airborne and is inhaled by people and pets. Look
> > into it.
> > Teflon PANS are only a problem when over-heated.
>
> So again I ask, is there a single documented case or study
> that shows people or pets can become ill from unheated
> Teflon? So far all I've read are anecdotal claims.
>
> Rick
>
>
|
|
|
| Chad |
Rick wrote:
> "Chad" <netnews@_remove_me_aviary.info> wrote in message news:bctXc.50494$9d6.46968@attbi_s54...
>
>>Rick wrote:
>>
>>>"Chad" <netnews@_remove_me_aviary.info> wrote in message news:PyvWc.220798$eM2.90388@attbi_s51...
>>>
>>>
>>>>gal522 wrote:
>>>>If your new carpet has a stain guard it could very well be teflon based.
>>>> If that's the case, you should know that YES, teflon is poisonous
>>>>(even to us humans).
>>>
>>>
>>>Teflon poses a threat only when it's heated to temps
>>>beyond 500F, e.g. overheated cookware. Do a little
>>>more research.
>>>
>>>Rick
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Rick, you're wrong. All of the teflon added to the carpets doesn't stay
>>on them. It becomes airborne and is inhaled by people and pets. Look
>>into it.
>>Teflon PANS are only a problem when over-heated.
>
>
> So again I ask, is there a single documented case or study
> that shows people or pets can become ill from unheated
> Teflon? So far all I've read are anecdotal claims.
>
> Rick
>
>
To each his own I guess. I prefer to play it safe and steer clear of
that stuff. If you want it in your air, more power to you.
As soon as you begin to heat Teflon it releases harmful gases. Not 500
degrees.
http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Te...ne-NTP-Data.htm
It's dangerous stuff.. I don't want it near my birds. It's all over a
wide range of products but we can at least be aware of it.
--
Chad Kovac
Aviary Info
Site Administrator
http://www.Aviary.info
Classifieds, Photos, Chat, Web Cameras, Forums, Auctions, Leg Band
Database, Breeder Database, Recipes + More
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
