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| Randy W. Sims |
I think I may be taking Rascal to the vet sooner than I anticipated. And
Priss and Buster too. Rascal has had a problem finding the correct place
to use the restroom. Starting to get a little annoyed, I decided to
leave his mess where he deposited it for a few days. I was hoping he
might get the idea that it wasn't such a great place to leave his
remains of the day or that the others might get fed up and teach him.
Anyway, I haven't cleaned the cage since Thursday or Friday. Today I
went out there and found worms in his feces, from baby worms to some
that are fairly large.
I'm very ignorant about this topic. Did the worms get there before or
after being deposited? I know that as a boy I was given a couple of pit
bull pups. They both died of worms, so I'm taking it seriously. I will
try to get an appointment come morning (I'm always happier safe
than...). I guess I was hoping for some information.
If it helps the environment they live in is basically a large shop
behind the house. Or rather one room in the shop that's about 12'x16'.
The shop and the room are both insulated. I put up sheetrock and laid
carpet in there, and it is cooled by a window A/C unit on a timer (and
heated durning the winter with a elec heater with a thermostat running
full time). Despite being nearly as accomidating as a house, the room is
more prone to insects. In fact, before this came up I was doing some
research trying to find a pet friendly way to eliminate that problem.
Considering this I am hoping that the worms were laid after the poop.
I notice no symptoms whatsoever. Active. Eating. Pooping. I checked for
distended bellies (learned from TV vets treating dogs), but they seem fine.
Uhm... I'm probably leaving something out, but...
What is the precedure for detecting and treating worms? Should I worry?
How much?
Thanks,
Randy.
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The vet will need stool samples. If the stool is passed more thn 1/2 hour
before your appointment (or if you can't take it in right away after it's
passed, place it in a zip lock bag and put in the refrigerator. Mark each
bag as to which ferret it belongs to and when it was passed and collected
(collect them immeditely, not hours later after they have dried). It means
you have to watch them close for a few hours until everybody poops and you
can get it to the vet, but other than that, no biggie. It is important that
is is handled properly tho - collected right away and either delivered to
the vet or refrigerated for up to 24 hours, then delivered immediately to
vet. The vet will examine under a microscope for parasites of any kind and
let you know what they find. Not really a biggie. Do tell the vet what you
saw, tho, and ask them to check for everything.
Good luck! Let us know what you find out.
jumpingmouse, kylie & gilbert
"Randy W. Sims" <randys@thepierianspring.org> wrote in message
news:Dzwzc.25914$FC3.16356@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> I think I may be taking Rascal to the vet sooner than I anticipated. And
> Priss and Buster too. Rascal has had a problem finding the correct place
> to use the restroom. Starting to get a little annoyed, I decided to
> leave his mess where he deposited it for a few days. I was hoping he
> might get the idea that it wasn't such a great place to leave his
> remains of the day or that the others might get fed up and teach him.
> Anyway, I haven't cleaned the cage since Thursday or Friday. Today I
> went out there and found worms in his feces, from baby worms to some
> that are fairly large.
>
> I'm very ignorant about this topic. Did the worms get there before or
> after being deposited? I know that as a boy I was given a couple of pit
> bull pups. They both died of worms, so I'm taking it seriously. I will
> try to get an appointment come morning (I'm always happier safe
> than...). I guess I was hoping for some information.
>
> If it helps the environment they live in is basically a large shop
> behind the house. Or rather one room in the shop that's about 12'x16'.
> The shop and the room are both insulated. I put up sheetrock and laid
> carpet in there, and it is cooled by a window A/C unit on a timer (and
> heated durning the winter with a elec heater with a thermostat running
> full time). Despite being nearly as accomidating as a house, the room is
> more prone to insects. In fact, before this came up I was doing some
> research trying to find a pet friendly way to eliminate that problem.
> Considering this I am hoping that the worms were laid after the poop.
>
> I notice no symptoms whatsoever. Active. Eating. Pooping. I checked for
> distended bellies (learned from TV vets treating dogs), but they seem
fine.
>
> Uhm... I'm probably leaving something out, but...
>
> What is the precedure for detecting and treating worms? Should I worry?
> How much?
>
> Thanks,
> Randy.
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| ZPL |
I'm thinking those are maggots, not worms. This time of year, it can be just
a matter of hours before maggots appear. All it takes is one fly, or even
one fly egg on a surface and the cycle starts.
Trust me, I see more maggots this time of year on dead people than most
would believe.
"Randy W. Sims" <randys@thepierianspring.org> wrote in message
news:Dzwzc.25914$FC3.16356@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> I think I may be taking Rascal to the vet sooner than I anticipated. And
> Priss and Buster too. Rascal has had a problem finding the correct place
> to use the restroom. Starting to get a little annoyed, I decided to
> leave his mess where he deposited it for a few days. I was hoping he
> might get the idea that it wasn't such a great place to leave his
> remains of the day or that the others might get fed up and teach him.
> Anyway, I haven't cleaned the cage since Thursday or Friday. Today I
> went out there and found worms in his feces, from baby worms to some
> that are fairly large.
>
> I'm very ignorant about this topic. Did the worms get there before or
> after being deposited? I know that as a boy I was given a couple of pit
> bull pups. They both died of worms, so I'm taking it seriously. I will
> try to get an appointment come morning (I'm always happier safe
> than...). I guess I was hoping for some information.
>
> If it helps the environment they live in is basically a large shop
> behind the house. Or rather one room in the shop that's about 12'x16'.
> The shop and the room are both insulated. I put up sheetrock and laid
> carpet in there, and it is cooled by a window A/C unit on a timer (and
> heated durning the winter with a elec heater with a thermostat running
> full time). Despite being nearly as accomidating as a house, the room is
> more prone to insects. In fact, before this came up I was doing some
> research trying to find a pet friendly way to eliminate that problem.
> Considering this I am hoping that the worms were laid after the poop.
>
> I notice no symptoms whatsoever. Active. Eating. Pooping. I checked for
> distended bellies (learned from TV vets treating dogs), but they seem
fine.
>
> Uhm... I'm probably leaving something out, but...
>
> What is the precedure for detecting and treating worms? Should I worry?
> How much?
>
> Thanks,
> Randy.
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| Randy W. Sims |
Ruth wrote:
> Sounds like maggots. Fly larva. They are quite fond of warm moist piles of
> poop.
> White worm with a brown tip at one end? Brown casings? Very squiggly?
> If that doesn't fit the description of what you are seeing, than a trip to
> the vets is in order.
Yup, that's what they look like. It also makes more sense.
Randy.
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| Ruth |
Sounds like maggots. Fly larva. They are quite fond of warm moist piles of
poop.
White worm with a brown tip at one end? Brown casings? Very squiggly?
If that doesn't fit the description of what you are seeing, than a trip to
the vets is in order.
Ruth
"Randy W. Sims" <randys@thepierianspring.org> wrote in message
news:Dzwzc.25914$FC3.16356@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> I think I may be taking Rascal to the vet sooner than I anticipated. And
> Priss and Buster too. Rascal has had a problem finding the correct place
> to use the restroom. Starting to get a little annoyed, I decided to
> leave his mess where he deposited it for a few days. I was hoping he
> might get the idea that it wasn't such a great place to leave his
> remains of the day or that the others might get fed up and teach him.
> Anyway, I haven't cleaned the cage since Thursday or Friday. Today I
> went out there and found worms in his feces, from baby worms to some
> that are fairly large.
>
> I'm very ignorant about this topic. Did the worms get there before or
> after being deposited? I know that as a boy I was given a couple of pit
> bull pups. They both died of worms, so I'm taking it seriously. I will
> try to get an appointment come morning (I'm always happier safe
> than...). I guess I was hoping for some information.
>
> If it helps the environment they live in is basically a large shop
> behind the house. Or rather one room in the shop that's about 12'x16'.
> The shop and the room are both insulated. I put up sheetrock and laid
> carpet in there, and it is cooled by a window A/C unit on a timer (and
> heated durning the winter with a elec heater with a thermostat running
> full time). Despite being nearly as accomidating as a house, the room is
> more prone to insects. In fact, before this came up I was doing some
> research trying to find a pet friendly way to eliminate that problem.
> Considering this I am hoping that the worms were laid after the poop.
>
> I notice no symptoms whatsoever. Active. Eating. Pooping. I checked for
> distended bellies (learned from TV vets treating dogs), but they seem
fine.
>
> Uhm... I'm probably leaving something out, but...
>
> What is the precedure for detecting and treating worms? Should I worry?
> How much?
>
> Thanks,
> Randy.
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| steve robinson |
"Randy W. Sims" <randys@thepierianspring.org> wrote in message
news:Dzwzc.25914$FC3.16356@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> I think I may be taking Rascal to the vet sooner than I anticipated. And
> Priss and Buster too. Rascal has had a problem finding the correct place
> to use the restroom. Starting to get a little annoyed, I decided to
> leave his mess where he deposited it for a few days. I was hoping he
> might get the idea that it wasn't such a great place to leave his
> remains of the day or that the others might get fed up and teach him.
> Anyway, I haven't cleaned the cage since Thursday or Friday. Today I
> went out there and found worms in his feces, from baby worms to some
> that are fairly large.
>
> I'm very ignorant about this topic. Did the worms get there before or
> after being deposited? I know that as a boy I was given a couple of pit
> bull pups. They both died of worms, so I'm taking it seriously. I will
> try to get an appointment come morning (I'm always happier safe
> than...). I guess I was hoping for some information.
>
> If it helps the environment they live in is basically a large shop
> behind the house. Or rather one room in the shop that's about 12'x16'.
> The shop and the room are both insulated. I put up sheetrock and laid
> carpet in there, and it is cooled by a window A/C unit on a timer (and
> heated durning the winter with a elec heater with a thermostat running
> full time). Despite being nearly as accomidating as a house, the room is
> more prone to insects. In fact, before this came up I was doing some
> research trying to find a pet friendly way to eliminate that problem.
> Considering this I am hoping that the worms were laid after the poop.
>
> I notice no symptoms whatsoever. Active. Eating. Pooping. I checked for
> distended bellies (learned from TV vets treating dogs), but they seem
fine.
>
> Uhm... I'm probably leaving something out, but...
>
> What is the precedure for detecting and treating worms? Should I worry?
> How much?
>
> Thanks,
> Randy.
they may well be maggots randy , you really should clean them out every
day in the hot months
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| Randy W. Sims |
On 6/15/2004 8:37 AM, ZPL wrote:
> I'm thinking those are maggots, not worms. This time of year, it can be just
> a matter of hours before maggots appear. All it takes is one fly, or even
> one fly egg on a surface and the cycle starts.
They are confirmed as being maggots. I probably should have known that
<*embarrassed*>, but I saw the squiggly little things and paniced,
bypassing all reason and thought processes.
> Trust me, I see more maggots this time of year on dead people than most
> would believe.
Should I ask?
Randy.
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| Randy W. Sims |
On 6/15/2004 6:01 PM, steve robinson wrote:
> they may well be maggots randy , you really should clean them out every
> day in the hot months
Yeah, I'm back on a regular cleaning schedule now. I just thought
leaving it a couple days might give Rascal incentive to find a more
appropriate place to do his thing. That was a huge mistake. I ended up
with maggots and a cage full of filth. They tracked filth all through
the cage and into their sleeping cubes. I basically had to take the cage
apart and clean it. I ended up replacing most of the bedding because it
got filthy.
I have made some progress in getting him potty trained. I installed a
swimming pool in his favorite spot: on the top floor in their sleeping
area. Actually, it's one of those small corner litter boxes. I just
filled it with water instead of litter. -- They really like it, dunking
their heads or washing their paws.
The swimming pool did have the affect of keeping Rascal from pooping in
the sleeping quarters, but now he's pooping in the dinning room on the
second floor. Maybe I'll install a larger "swimming pool" on that level...
Randy.
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| Randy W. Sims |
jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net wrote:
> It's really easy if you just put blankies or soft cloth (t-shirts work great
> too!) anyplace you don't want them to poop. Anything that looks like a soft
> fluffy bed won't get pooped in. Works immediately. Just be sure you use
> enough that it's fluffy and cozy looking - you won't get poop.
That doesn't seem to work for Rascal. I have one of those rediculously
priced ferret blankets <http://ferretstore.com/fp-112.html> that he
pooped & peed on. I guess it could have been bad aim, but... I just need
to find something to fill that one corner that can't be easily moved.
One corner has an immovable sleeper; another has the heavy ceramic food
bowl, and the other has a hole in the floor that leads to lower level. I
just need something big to occupy that last corner so that he has no
choice but to take his lazy #$% downstairs.
Randy.
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hmmmmmmmm...........maybe one of those small, corner litterboxes???? Maybe
you should let him go ahead and win this one if he's that insistent. Maybe
he just can't hold it long enough to make it downstairs? Just an
idea........
"Randy W. Sims" <randys@thepierianspring.org> wrote in message
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> jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net wrote:
> > It's really easy if you just put blankies or soft cloth (t-shirts work
great
> > too!) anyplace you don't want them to poop. Anything that looks like a
soft
> > fluffy bed won't get pooped in. Works immediately. Just be sure you use
> > enough that it's fluffy and cozy looking - you won't get poop.
>
> That doesn't seem to work for Rascal. I have one of those rediculously
> priced ferret blankets <http://ferretstore.com/fp-112.html> that he
> pooped & peed on. I guess it could have been bad aim, but... I just need
> to find something to fill that one corner that can't be easily moved.
> One corner has an immovable sleeper; another has the heavy ceramic food
> bowl, and the other has a hole in the floor that leads to lower level. I
> just need something big to occupy that last corner so that he has no
> choice but to take his lazy #$% downstairs.
>
> Randy.
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| Nanny |
It doesn't work here either for one spot in the cage. I keep putting old
towels etc.there (don't want to ruin their good bedding there), but only
because it's easier than cleaning that spot every day.......
Nanny
"Randy W. Sims" <randys@thepierianspring.org> schreef in bericht
news:bLbAc.34807$FC3.4463@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net wrote:
> > It's really easy if you just put blankies or soft cloth (t-shirts work
great
> > too!) anyplace you don't want them to poop. Anything that looks like a
soft
> > fluffy bed won't get pooped in. Works immediately. Just be sure you use
> > enough that it's fluffy and cozy looking - you won't get poop.
>
> That doesn't seem to work for Rascal. I have one of those rediculously
> priced ferret blankets <http://ferretstore.com/fp-112.html> that he
> pooped & peed on. I guess it could have been bad aim, but... I just need
> to find something to fill that one corner that can't be easily moved.
> One corner has an immovable sleeper; another has the heavy ceramic food
> bowl, and the other has a hole in the floor that leads to lower level. I
> just need something big to occupy that last corner so that he has no
> choice but to take his lazy #$% downstairs.
>
> Randy.
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