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Randy W. Sims
Rascal, my newest ferret, seems to me to be a little unusual in
appearance. I didn't really think much about it a first, but lately I've
been trying to figure out what color/pattern he fits in. At first glance
he looks like a silver mitt, but there are two oddities (as far as I
know): 1) the light colored areas of his coat, especially around the
neck is a very yellowish white instead of the more usuall white, and 2)
the thing that seems most unusual to me is his eyes which are crimson
(literally, they look like orbs filled with blood). From my limited
knowledge, the yellowish color and the the eyes are more typical in
albinos, but that's not possible in an otherwise silver (almost sable) mitt.

Gotta get me one a dem thar fancy picture takin' gadgets.

Whatever classification he falls in, he sure is a ball of energy. He's
extremely playfull, launching himself through the air to attack me or
one of his other playmates.

I never believed it before whey I used to read messages here that 3
ferrets are better than just one or two. It seemed that with more than 2
ferrets it would be too chaotic and that it might somehow negatively
affect their play together and with me. Boy was I wrong. Three is the
perfect number. They get more play time since if one is tired then the
other two can play. I can spend more time with each of them
individually. I can even start taking them to work with me, one at a
time, which I was reluctant to do while I had two. I couldn't manage
both, and I was unwilling to leave the other at home alone. Mostly,
though, they just play better together; It's hard to describe the
difference exactly, but they definately seem to have much more fun together.

Randy.
Treesa
"Randy W. Sims" <randys@thepierianspring.org> wrote in
news:AK4wc.5093$1s1.919@bignews4.bellsouth.net:

>
> I never believed it before whey I used to read messages here that 3
> ferrets are better than just one or two. It seemed that with more than
> 2 ferrets it would be too chaotic and that it might somehow negatively
> affect their play together and with me. Boy was I wrong. Three is the
> perfect number. They get more play time since if one is tired then the
> other two can play. I can spend more time with each of them
> individually. I can even start taking them to work with me, one at a
> time, which I was reluctant to do while I had two. I couldn't manage
> both, and I was unwilling to leave the other at home alone. Mostly,
> though, they just play better together; It's hard to describe the
> difference exactly, but they definately seem to have much more fun
> together.
>
> Randy.
>


I completely agree! I had one- thought she was lonely, so was going to get
her a playmate and ended up with two (boys)! Three is perfect (for all the
reasons you mentioned). However, have you also noticed that the waste piles
have grown exponentially? LOL

Your new one sounds unique.

Treesa (George, Gordo and Rosie)

Jason and Holly Harper
Randy,

Doesn't really sound all that odd to me. The yellowish white can just be
from the oils in the skin, sometimes it'll give white a yellowish tinge.
Although there are some ferrets that have more of a cream undercoat than
others. And there are ferrets that have ruby eyes other than albinos. My
chocolate mitt (who also has more of a yellowish bib at the moment) has ruby
eyes. :) She's gorgeous. :) Kolby who started off as a black mitt and
has since turned into a silver mitt has a bluish tinge to his eyes. I'll
have to add some new pictures to his webpage and when I do I'll post the url
so you can see what a drastic coat change he's gone through since I've had
him. :)

Holly

p.s.
And 3 is a great number. I just wish my three could get along with one
another. :) Darn those stubborn girls. ;-)

"Randy W. Sims" <randys@thepierianspring.org> wrote in message
news:AK4wc.5093$1s1.919@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> Rascal, my newest ferret, seems to me to be a little unusual in
> appearance. I didn't really think much about it a first, but lately I've
> been trying to figure out what color/pattern he fits in. At first glance
> he looks like a silver mitt, but there are two oddities (as far as I
> know): 1) the light colored areas of his coat, especially around the
> neck is a very yellowish white instead of the more usuall white, and 2)
> the thing that seems most unusual to me is his eyes which are crimson
> (literally, they look like orbs filled with blood). From my limited
> knowledge, the yellowish color and the the eyes are more typical in
> albinos, but that's not possible in an otherwise silver (almost sable)

mitt.
>
> Gotta get me one a dem thar fancy picture takin' gadgets.
>
> Whatever classification he falls in, he sure is a ball of energy. He's
> extremely playfull, launching himself through the air to attack me or
> one of his other playmates.
>
> I never believed it before whey I used to read messages here that 3
> ferrets are better than just one or two. It seemed that with more than 2
> ferrets it would be too chaotic and that it might somehow negatively
> affect their play together and with me. Boy was I wrong. Three is the
> perfect number. They get more play time since if one is tired then the
> other two can play. I can spend more time with each of them
> individually. I can even start taking them to work with me, one at a
> time, which I was reluctant to do while I had two. I couldn't manage
> both, and I was unwilling to leave the other at home alone. Mostly,
> though, they just play better together; It's hard to describe the
> difference exactly, but they definately seem to have much more fun

together.
>
> Randy.



jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net
ROFLOL.......that's so funny that you would say that. I had three male
ferrets for four years together and when I added a third, I couldn't believe
the difference!! I used to always say "Do you know the difference between
two ferrets and three ferrets? (answer) About ten pounds of poop a day!!!"

"Treesa" <lala@lala.com> wrote

>Three is perfect (for all the
> reasons you mentioned). However, have you also noticed that the waste

piles
> have grown exponentially? LOL
>



Jason and Holly Harper
Now that is true!! I don't know how one more ferret could make so much more
of a mess, but somehow they manage!! ;-)

Holly

"jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net" <jumpingmouse@kylie@xx.com> wrote in message
news:Bu8wc.21848$Tn6.6186@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> ROFLOL.......that's so funny that you would say that. I had three male
> ferrets for four years together and when I added a third, I couldn't

believe
> the difference!! I used to always say "Do you know the difference

between
> two ferrets and three ferrets? (answer) About ten pounds of poop a

day!!!"
>
> "Treesa" <lala@lala.com> wrote
>
> >Three is perfect (for all the
> > reasons you mentioned). However, have you also noticed that the waste

> piles
> > have grown exponentially? LOL
> >

>
>



Jason and Holly Harper
Ok...updated the page. Here's the link:
http://www.geocities.com/ferretgirl88/kolby.html Oh and it dawned on me,
the latest issue of Ferrets magazine has a brief description (with pictures)
of colors/patterns.

Holly

"Jason and Holly Harper" <jhharper@tm.net> wrote in message
news:058wc.2949$Hf.1694199@newshog.newsread.com...
> Randy,
>
> Doesn't really sound all that odd to me. The yellowish white can just be
> from the oils in the skin, sometimes it'll give white a yellowish tinge.
> Although there are some ferrets that have more of a cream undercoat than
> others. And there are ferrets that have ruby eyes other than albinos. My
> chocolate mitt (who also has more of a yellowish bib at the moment) has

ruby
> eyes. :) She's gorgeous. :) Kolby who started off as a black mitt and
> has since turned into a silver mitt has a bluish tinge to his eyes. I'll
> have to add some new pictures to his webpage and when I do I'll post the

url
> so you can see what a drastic coat change he's gone through since I've had
> him. :)
>
> Holly
>
> p.s.
> And 3 is a great number. I just wish my three could get along with one
> another. :) Darn those stubborn girls. ;-)
>




MC

<jumpingmouse@kylie@xx.com> wrote in message

>"Do you know the difference between
> two ferrets and three ferrets? (answer) About ten pounds of poop a

day!!!"

NO ****!


jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net
No, ****...and lots of it! LOL

"MC" <MC@ProgressiveSystemsInc.org> wrote in message
news:c9r8980j6k@news2.newsguy.com...

> NO ****!
>
>



Randy W. Sims
On 6/4/2004 10:41 PM, jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net wrote:

> No, ****...and lots of it! LOL
>
> "MC" <MC@ProgressiveSystemsInc.org> wrote in message
> news:c9r8980j6k@news2.newsguy.com...
>
>>NO ****!


That reminds me of a great book I'm currently reading, "Eats, Shoots &
Leaves"[1] by british author Lynne Truss. It's a book about punctuation
of all things. The title is a joke: It's something pandas do, but note
the comma completely changes the meaning. The book is great, and I
recommend it to everyone. It's a humorous approach to the subject
matter, and it's just a small book. It has the be the first book on
punctuation to make bestseller lists (in britain and america!).

1. <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1592400876/>
jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net
Sounds like a book that a connoisseur of the English language would
appreciate - but one that would just go over a lot of heads in the general
public? I'm always looking for books like that for my hubby, who is one
of those who would truly appreciate it. Thanks, Randy!


"Randy W. Sims" <RandyS@ThePierianSpring.org> wrote in message
news:evCdnQ-YMYg29FzdRVn_vQ@giganews.com...
> On 6/4/2004 10:41 PM, jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> > No, ****...and lots of it! LOL
> >
> > "MC" <MC@ProgressiveSystemsInc.org> wrote in message
> > news:c9r8980j6k@news2.newsguy.com...
> >
> >>NO ****!

>
> That reminds me of a great book I'm currently reading, "Eats, Shoots &
> Leaves"[1] by british author Lynne Truss. It's a book about punctuation
> of all things. The title is a joke: It's something pandas do, but note
> the comma completely changes the meaning. The book is great, and I
> recommend it to everyone. It's a humorous approach to the subject
> matter, and it's just a small book. It has the be the first book on
> punctuation to make bestseller lists (in britain and america!).
>
> 1. <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1592400876/>



Randy W. Sims
On 6/4/2004 8:03 PM, Jason and Holly Harper wrote:
> Randy,
>
> Doesn't really sound all that odd to me. The yellowish white can just be
> from the oils in the skin, sometimes it'll give white a yellowish tinge.
> Although there are some ferrets that have more of a cream undercoat than
> others. And there are ferrets that have ruby eyes other than albinos. My
> chocolate mitt (who also has more of a yellowish bib at the moment) has ruby
> eyes. :) She's gorgeous. :) Kolby who started off as a black mitt and
> has since turned into a silver mitt has a bluish tinge to his eyes. I'll
> have to add some new pictures to his webpage and when I do I'll post the url
> so you can see what a drastic coat change he's gone through since I've had
> him. :)


I guess the reason I was wondering about the eyes is that none of the
ferret books I've looked at mention red eyes other than in albinos. In
fact, most of them specifically say that for ferrets of pattern X the
eyes are dark brown or black, etc; nothing about red eyes. It just
seemed a little odd to me. But now I know that at least he's not demon
possesed or anything--No matter how he might act. ;-)

Randy.
Randy W. Sims
On 6/5/2004 2:45 AM, jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net wrote:

> Sounds like a book that a connoisseur of the English language would
> appreciate - but one that would just go over a lot of heads in the general
> public?


Not really. It reads like a good book rather than a dry textbook. (And
it's very small at only ~200 pages.) In fact, I recommend it as much for
the reading pleasure as the instructional value. Although, from some of
the emails and newsgroup messages I read, many people would benefit from
the instructional material.

Anyway, the reason I mentioned it is that the title seemed rather
fitting, and it still makes me laugh.

Randy.
Randy W. Sims
On 6/5/2004 2:45 AM, jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net wrote:

> Sounds like a book that a connoisseur of the English language would
> appreciate - but one that would just go over a lot of heads in the general
> public?


Not really. It reads like a good book rather than a dry textbook. (And
it's very small at only ~200 pages.) In fact, I recommend it as much for
the reading pleasure as the instructional value. Although, from some of
the emails and newsgroup messages I read, many people would benefit from
the instructional material.

Anyway, the reason I mentioned it is that the title seemed rather
fitting, and it still makes me laugh.

Randy.
jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net
I just looked it up and it definitely looks interesting. There was also a
link to 'other books enjoyed by folks who purchased this book" and this was
listed. I thought possibly you would be interested in it also:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...6482674-0920767




"Randy W. Sims" <RandyS@ThePierianSpring.org> wrote in message
news:40C17040.6060708@ThePierianSpring.org...
> On 6/5/2004 2:45 AM, jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> > Sounds like a book that a connoisseur of the English language would
> > appreciate - but one that would just go over a lot of heads in the

general
> > public?

>
> Not really. It reads like a good book rather than a dry textbook. (And
> it's very small at only ~200 pages.) In fact, I recommend it as much for
> the reading pleasure as the instructional value. Although, from some of
> the emails and newsgroup messages I read, many people would benefit from
> the instructional material.
>
> Anyway, the reason I mentioned it is that the title seemed rather
> fitting, and it still makes me laugh.
>
> Randy.



Randy W. Sims
On 6/5/2004 3:17 AM, jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net wrote:

> I just looked it up and it definitely looks interesting. There was also a
> link to 'other books enjoyed by folks who purchased this book" and this was
> listed. I thought possibly you would be interested in it also:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...6482674-0920767


Yeah, thanks. I'll have to add that one to my list.

Randy.
Treesa
"Randy W. Sims" <RandyS@ThePierianSpring.org> wrote in news:evCdnQ-
YMYg29FzdRVn_vQ@giganews.com:

> On 6/4/2004 10:41 PM, jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>> No, ****...and lots of it! LOL


>>>NO ****!

>
> That reminds me of a great book I'm currently reading, "Eats, Shoots &
> Leaves"[1] by british author Lynne Truss. It's a book about punctuation
> of all things. The title is a joke: It's something pandas do, but note
> the comma completely changes the meaning. The book is great, and I
> recommend it to everyone. It's a humorous approach to the subject
> matter, and it's just a small book. It has the be the first book on
> punctuation to make bestseller lists (in britain and america!).



I have this book! You're right! It is hilarious. Its more of a comical
commentary then a text on grammar. After reading it- I noticed even more
mistakes than usual. (And edit my writing before posting! lol)

Treesa
swamp
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 00:53:16 GMT, "Jason and Holly Harper"
<jhharper@tm.net> wrote:

>Ok...updated the page. Here's the link:
>http://www.geocities.com/ferretgirl88/kolby.html Oh and it dawned on me,
>the latest issue of Ferrets magazine has a brief description (with pictures)
>of colors/patterns.


There's a description of colors and patterns, w/ links to some of the
common ones, at AFA's site:

http://www.ferret.org/events/colorchart.htm

Keep in mind those are AFA judging standards only. Also, what we call
"sable" the British call "siamese."

btw - I've never heard of a non-albino w/ red eyes. Is it possible
you're seeing a retinal reflection? You have to get them under a good
light source to see the real color, which is usually somewhere between
brown and burgundy. A black sable of mine had green eyes, but every
time I tried get a photo he "red-eyed."

>Holly


-- swamp

"Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
Jason and Holly Harper
Like I said, I have Stormy with ruby (not red or pink) eyes and I have seen
a few other ferrets with ruby eyes. Most of these ferrets are bibbed, and
if I'm remembering correctly most have been chocolate mitts.

Holly

"Randy W. Sims" <RandyS@ThePierianSpring.org> wrote in message
news:o-Cdne8IkNNa8lzdRVn_vA@giganews.com...
> On 6/4/2004 8:03 PM, Jason and Holly Harper wrote:
> > Randy,
> >
> > Doesn't really sound all that odd to me. The yellowish white can just

be
> > from the oils in the skin, sometimes it'll give white a yellowish tinge.
> > Although there are some ferrets that have more of a cream undercoat than
> > others. And there are ferrets that have ruby eyes other than albinos.

My
> > chocolate mitt (who also has more of a yellowish bib at the moment) has

ruby
> > eyes. :) She's gorgeous. :) Kolby who started off as a black mitt

and
> > has since turned into a silver mitt has a bluish tinge to his eyes.

I'll
> > have to add some new pictures to his webpage and when I do I'll post the

url
> > so you can see what a drastic coat change he's gone through since I've

had
> > him. :)

>
> I guess the reason I was wondering about the eyes is that none of the
> ferret books I've looked at mention red eyes other than in albinos. In
> fact, most of them specifically say that for ferrets of pattern X the
> eyes are dark brown or black, etc; nothing about red eyes. It just
> seemed a little odd to me. But now I know that at least he's not demon
> possesed or anything--No matter how he might act. ;-)
>
> Randy.



Jason and Holly Harper
Stormy actually does have ruby eyes. I like to think that albinos have pink
or red eyes...there is a difference. The ruby is much deeper and has to
catch the light. Now when I think of a siamese ferret, I think of a sable
point (or fine point if you will). But you're right, Swamp, this is all
going by AFA standards.

Holly

"swamp" <swamp92@> wrote in message
news:bef4c05k881hm6mlhkqpoldd374iu5mku0@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 00:53:16 GMT, "Jason and Holly Harper"
> <jhharper@tm.net> wrote:
>
> >Ok...updated the page. Here's the link:
> >http://www.geocities.com/ferretgirl88/kolby.html Oh and it dawned on me,
> >the latest issue of Ferrets magazine has a brief description (with

pictures)
> >of colors/patterns.

>
> There's a description of colors and patterns, w/ links to some of the
> common ones, at AFA's site:
>
> http://www.ferret.org/events/colorchart.htm
>
> Keep in mind those are AFA judging standards only. Also, what we call
> "sable" the British call "siamese."
>
> btw - I've never heard of a non-albino w/ red eyes. Is it possible
> you're seeing a retinal reflection? You have to get them under a good
> light source to see the real color, which is usually somewhere between
> brown and burgundy. A black sable of mine had green eyes, but every
> time I tried get a photo he "red-eyed."
>
> >Holly

>
> -- swamp
>
> "Who me officer? What's a ferut. These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."





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