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| Meighan Gibson |
Thanks Jacquie,
Xena is still groggy from the anaesthetic and I'm sure she is in pain. She
has not been moving much. She is responsive when I check on her. Breathing
seems fine not laboured at all. She just seems really, really tired. I did
get her to lick a few drops of water from my finger. And the vet gave her
sub q ringers post surgery so I'm not concerned with dehydration yet. I
will grab some pedialyte tomorrow while I'm at work ( great suggestion and
can't hurt to have some on hand ). She is not interested in staying awake
long enough to eat. I won't panic yet. :)
The vet said that she came out of surgery and responded well during
recovery. They were impressed with her wake time. I wish I was seeing some
of that tonight.
He sent us home with baytril sub q twice daily until the culture comes back
to confirm antibiotic choice. ( I used to work in a few vet clinics so he
chose injectable baytril as it is absorbed and used more efficiently by the
body and I can give the injections. ) He said he wouldn't normally send
them home so quickly but since they are not monitored at night she was
better off at home.
I'm wondering about pain meds. He didn't prescribe any. I don't see any
post surgery like torbugesic ( normally used in cats and dogs post abdominal
surgery ) or the like on the check out form. Are pain meds not normally
used in ferrets? I can't find any info regarding this on the web. And of
course it didn't occur to me until about an hour after the office closed for
the day. I will call in the a.m. if she is not more alert. I know pain
would keep me sleeping as long as I could. But ferrets need to wake up to
eat and drink more than we do.
Thanks again,
Meighan and a very sleepy Xena.
"jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net" <jumpingmouse@kylie@xx.com> wrote in message
news:cFZec.8345$k05.2717@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Hi Meighan:
>
> Here is a lot of information that I got from Ferret Central that talks
about
> nursing the sick or recovering ferret:
>
> http://www.ferretcentral.org/faq/part5.html#nursing
>
> You may want to pick up some Hill's A/D (or whatever your vet wants her to
> be eating) while you're at the vet's office, as it is prescription only.
> Warm a little and water it down until it's like thick broth, then put some
> on your finger and rub in her mouth a few times so she gets a taste, then
> put her nose down by it and hopefully she will eat. If not, keep feeding
it
> to her off your finger.
>
> For a hospital cage, you need a one-story, no ramps, no hammock, nothing
to
> climb up on area. Keep clean blankies (extras so she doesn't get chilled)
> You may even want to put a heating pad on very very low temperature (or
put
> a blankie between so it is no more than warm) underneath the cage on one
> side, but always leave room for her to get off it if she gets too hot.
>
> Your vet will probably encourage you to give her lots of fluids -
Pedialyte
> is great. Feed it with a syringe (no needle,of course) placed just behind
> her canines (the long teeth) and dribble it into her mouth. The secret to
> quick recovery in ferrets after surgery is keeping them well hydrated
(lots
> of fluids) and keeping them warm.
>
> I'm sure your vet will be checking her again tomorrow. If you have any
> medical questions in the meantime, be sure to call his office right away.
If
> you just have questions about care or how to make her comfortable, etc,
how
> to see if she is dehydrated, you are welcome to call me at (928)344-4651
and
> I'll try to help.
>
> Gentle hugs to your little one. Hope she recovers quickly and gets
feeling
> great real soon. You'll be surprised how quickly they snap back after the
> first day or two.
>
> jacquie, kylie & gilbert
>
>
> "Meighan Gibson" <meighanremovespam@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:NSWec.6457$2Z6.562448@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Haven't posted in awhile but have continued to read about all of your
> > ferrets. Condolences to all who have lost fuzzies.
> >
> > My little girl Xena underwent emergency surgery today for stump pyometra
> and
> > left adrenal removal ( not the emergency but took it out while she was
> > under ). The vet said he drained off the infection and flushed with
> > antibiotics and is sending a sample for culture to ensure that the right
> > antibiotics are given to prevent reoccurrence.
> >
> > The left adrenal was enlarged so he removed it as I requested that he do
> > since she was under anyway. I assume the right was fine but will not
know
> > until I speak to him directly at 4 when we pick her up.
> >
> > What is the least that I need to know when I bring her home? I have an
> > extra cage that I can keep her in ( she has two sisters ). She will be
> > going to work with me tomorrow and my boyfriend is on midnights Thursday
> so
> > she will be attended for most of 48 hours post surgery. What do I need
to
> > do to ensure her health from a ferret person's perspective? I have not
> had
> > a ferret post surgery before and just want to ensure her well being.
> >
> > Thanks so much in advance,
> > Meighan and The Girls.
> > Xena and Zora and the newest baby Emily.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Lin |
As for pain meds, it seems to depend on the ferret *&* the situation. My
Ariel definitely needed pain meds (a couple injections of torb over the
course of about 3 days) after her adrenal surgery, as well as a couple
rounds of sub-q fluids, cos her pain made her not interested in
eating/drinking the ideal amount for a couple days. On the other hand, after
her spay, & after another exploritory surgery she had about a yr ago, she
didn't seem to have much discomfort, so we didn't use anything for pain.
Best to check w/ your vet.....pain meds aren't gonna *hurt* your little one,
& they may definitely help.
Lin, Ariel, Oberon, & Max
"Meighan Gibson" <meighan@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:FD3fc.12230$vF3.1185730@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Thanks Jacquie,
>
> Xena is still groggy from the anaesthetic and I'm sure she is in pain. She
> has not been moving much. She is responsive when I check on her.
Breathing
> seems fine not laboured at all. She just seems really, really tired. I
did
> get her to lick a few drops of water from my finger. And the vet gave her
> sub q ringers post surgery so I'm not concerned with dehydration yet. I
> will grab some pedialyte tomorrow while I'm at work ( great suggestion and
> can't hurt to have some on hand ). She is not interested in staying awake
> long enough to eat. I won't panic yet. :)
>
> The vet said that she came out of surgery and responded well during
> recovery. They were impressed with her wake time. I wish I was seeing
some
> of that tonight.
>
> He sent us home with baytril sub q twice daily until the culture comes
back
> to confirm antibiotic choice. ( I used to work in a few vet clinics so he
> chose injectable baytril as it is absorbed and used more efficiently by
the
> body and I can give the injections. ) He said he wouldn't normally send
> them home so quickly but since they are not monitored at night she was
> better off at home.
>
> I'm wondering about pain meds. He didn't prescribe any. I don't see any
> post surgery like torbugesic ( normally used in cats and dogs post
abdominal
> surgery ) or the like on the check out form. Are pain meds not normally
> used in ferrets? I can't find any info regarding this on the web. And of
> course it didn't occur to me until about an hour after the office closed
for
> the day. I will call in the a.m. if she is not more alert. I know pain
> would keep me sleeping as long as I could. But ferrets need to wake up to
> eat and drink more than we do.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Meighan and a very sleepy Xena.
>
>
> "jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net" <jumpingmouse@kylie@xx.com> wrote in
message
> news:cFZec.8345$k05.2717@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > Hi Meighan:
> >
> > Here is a lot of information that I got from Ferret Central that talks
> about
> > nursing the sick or recovering ferret:
> >
> > http://www.ferretcentral.org/faq/part5.html#nursing
> >
> > You may want to pick up some Hill's A/D (or whatever your vet wants her
to
> > be eating) while you're at the vet's office, as it is prescription only.
> > Warm a little and water it down until it's like thick broth, then put
some
> > on your finger and rub in her mouth a few times so she gets a taste,
then
> > put her nose down by it and hopefully she will eat. If not, keep
feeding
> it
> > to her off your finger.
> >
> > For a hospital cage, you need a one-story, no ramps, no hammock, nothing
> to
> > climb up on area. Keep clean blankies (extras so she doesn't get
chilled)
> > You may even want to put a heating pad on very very low temperature (or
> put
> > a blankie between so it is no more than warm) underneath the cage on one
> > side, but always leave room for her to get off it if she gets too hot.
> >
> > Your vet will probably encourage you to give her lots of fluids -
> Pedialyte
> > is great. Feed it with a syringe (no needle,of course) placed just
behind
> > her canines (the long teeth) and dribble it into her mouth. The secret
to
> > quick recovery in ferrets after surgery is keeping them well hydrated
> (lots
> > of fluids) and keeping them warm.
> >
> > I'm sure your vet will be checking her again tomorrow. If you have any
> > medical questions in the meantime, be sure to call his office right
away.
> If
> > you just have questions about care or how to make her comfortable, etc,
> how
> > to see if she is dehydrated, you are welcome to call me at (928)344-4651
> and
> > I'll try to help.
> >
> > Gentle hugs to your little one. Hope she recovers quickly and gets
> feeling
> > great real soon. You'll be surprised how quickly they snap back after
the
> > first day or two.
> >
> > jacquie, kylie & gilbert
> >
> >
> > "Meighan Gibson" <meighanremovespam@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:NSWec.6457$2Z6.562448@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Haven't posted in awhile but have continued to read about all of your
> > > ferrets. Condolences to all who have lost fuzzies.
> > >
> > > My little girl Xena underwent emergency surgery today for stump
pyometra
> > and
> > > left adrenal removal ( not the emergency but took it out while she was
> > > under ). The vet said he drained off the infection and flushed with
> > > antibiotics and is sending a sample for culture to ensure that the
right
> > > antibiotics are given to prevent reoccurrence.
> > >
> > > The left adrenal was enlarged so he removed it as I requested that he
do
> > > since she was under anyway. I assume the right was fine but will not
> know
> > > until I speak to him directly at 4 when we pick her up.
> > >
> > > What is the least that I need to know when I bring her home? I have
an
> > > extra cage that I can keep her in ( she has two sisters ). She will
be
> > > going to work with me tomorrow and my boyfriend is on midnights
Thursday
> > so
> > > she will be attended for most of 48 hours post surgery. What do I
need
> to
> > > do to ensure her health from a ferret person's perspective? I have
not
> > had
> > > a ferret post surgery before and just want to ensure her well being.
> > >
> > > Thanks so much in advance,
> > > Meighan and The Girls.
> > > Xena and Zora and the newest baby Emily.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Meighan Gibson |
Thanks Lin. It's good to hear others experiences.
Meighan and Xena
"Lin" <ktnil@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
news:694fc.11855$B%4.9397@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> As for pain meds, it seems to depend on the ferret *&* the situation. My
> Ariel definitely needed pain meds (a couple injections of torb over the
> course of about 3 days) after her adrenal surgery, as well as a couple
> rounds of sub-q fluids, cos her pain made her not interested in
> eating/drinking the ideal amount for a couple days. On the other hand,
after
> her spay, & after another exploritory surgery she had about a yr ago, she
> didn't seem to have much discomfort, so we didn't use anything for pain.
>
> Best to check w/ your vet.....pain meds aren't gonna *hurt* your little
one,
> & they may definitely help.
>
> Lin, Ariel, Oberon, & Max
>
> "Meighan Gibson" <meighan@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:FD3fc.12230$vF3.1185730@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > Thanks Jacquie,
> >
> > Xena is still groggy from the anaesthetic and I'm sure she is in pain.
She
> > has not been moving much. She is responsive when I check on her.
> Breathing
> > seems fine not laboured at all. She just seems really, really tired. I
> did
> > get her to lick a few drops of water from my finger. And the vet gave
her
> > sub q ringers post surgery so I'm not concerned with dehydration yet. I
> > will grab some pedialyte tomorrow while I'm at work ( great suggestion
and
> > can't hurt to have some on hand ). She is not interested in staying
awake
> > long enough to eat. I won't panic yet. :)
> >
> > The vet said that she came out of surgery and responded well during
> > recovery. They were impressed with her wake time. I wish I was seeing
> some
> > of that tonight.
> >
> > He sent us home with baytril sub q twice daily until the culture comes
> back
> > to confirm antibiotic choice. ( I used to work in a few vet clinics so
he
> > chose injectable baytril as it is absorbed and used more efficiently by
> the
> > body and I can give the injections. ) He said he wouldn't normally send
> > them home so quickly but since they are not monitored at night she was
> > better off at home.
> >
> > I'm wondering about pain meds. He didn't prescribe any. I don't see
any
> > post surgery like torbugesic ( normally used in cats and dogs post
> abdominal
> > surgery ) or the like on the check out form. Are pain meds not normally
> > used in ferrets? I can't find any info regarding this on the web. And
of
> > course it didn't occur to me until about an hour after the office closed
> for
> > the day. I will call in the a.m. if she is not more alert. I know pain
> > would keep me sleeping as long as I could. But ferrets need to wake up
to
> > eat and drink more than we do.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Meighan and a very sleepy Xena.
> >
> >
> > "jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net" <jumpingmouse@kylie@xx.com> wrote in
> message
> > news:cFZec.8345$k05.2717@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > Hi Meighan:
> > >
> > > Here is a lot of information that I got from Ferret Central that talks
> > about
> > > nursing the sick or recovering ferret:
> > >
> > > http://www.ferretcentral.org/faq/part5.html#nursing
> > >
> > > You may want to pick up some Hill's A/D (or whatever your vet wants
her
> to
> > > be eating) while you're at the vet's office, as it is prescription
only.
> > > Warm a little and water it down until it's like thick broth, then put
> some
> > > on your finger and rub in her mouth a few times so she gets a taste,
> then
> > > put her nose down by it and hopefully she will eat. If not, keep
> feeding
> > it
> > > to her off your finger.
> > >
> > > For a hospital cage, you need a one-story, no ramps, no hammock,
nothing
> > to
> > > climb up on area. Keep clean blankies (extras so she doesn't get
> chilled)
> > > You may even want to put a heating pad on very very low temperature
(or
> > put
> > > a blankie between so it is no more than warm) underneath the cage on
one
> > > side, but always leave room for her to get off it if she gets too hot.
> > >
> > > Your vet will probably encourage you to give her lots of fluids -
> > Pedialyte
> > > is great. Feed it with a syringe (no needle,of course) placed just
> behind
> > > her canines (the long teeth) and dribble it into her mouth. The
secret
> to
> > > quick recovery in ferrets after surgery is keeping them well hydrated
> > (lots
> > > of fluids) and keeping them warm.
> > >
> > > I'm sure your vet will be checking her again tomorrow. If you have
any
> > > medical questions in the meantime, be sure to call his office right
> away.
> > If
> > > you just have questions about care or how to make her comfortable,
etc,
> > how
> > > to see if she is dehydrated, you are welcome to call me at
(928)344-4651
> > and
> > > I'll try to help.
> > >
> > > Gentle hugs to your little one. Hope she recovers quickly and gets
> > feeling
> > > great real soon. You'll be surprised how quickly they snap back after
> the
> > > first day or two.
> > >
> > > jacquie, kylie & gilbert
> > >
> > >
> > > "Meighan Gibson" <meighanremovespam@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:NSWec.6457$2Z6.562448@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Haven't posted in awhile but have continued to read about all of
your
> > > > ferrets. Condolences to all who have lost fuzzies.
> > > >
> > > > My little girl Xena underwent emergency surgery today for stump
> pyometra
> > > and
> > > > left adrenal removal ( not the emergency but took it out while she
was
> > > > under ). The vet said he drained off the infection and flushed with
> > > > antibiotics and is sending a sample for culture to ensure that the
> right
> > > > antibiotics are given to prevent reoccurrence.
> > > >
> > > > The left adrenal was enlarged so he removed it as I requested that
he
> do
> > > > since she was under anyway. I assume the right was fine but will
not
> > know
> > > > until I speak to him directly at 4 when we pick her up.
> > > >
> > > > What is the least that I need to know when I bring her home? I have
> an
> > > > extra cage that I can keep her in ( she has two sisters ). She will
> be
> > > > going to work with me tomorrow and my boyfriend is on midnights
> Thursday
> > > so
> > > > she will be attended for most of 48 hours post surgery. What do I
> need
> > to
> > > > do to ensure her health from a ferret person's perspective? I have
> not
> > > had
> > > > a ferret post surgery before and just want to ensure her well being.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks so much in advance,
> > > > Meighan and The Girls.
> > > > Xena and Zora and the newest baby Emily.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net |
Absolutely yes.......she probably needs pain meds. My vet uses torb and
it's very effective with ferrets. Some vets just don't do it for some
reason, but ferrets DO feel pain and it really stresses their whole system.
You might want to call him in the morning and insist on some pain meds at
least for the first 2-3 days. Maybe he thought she was still sleepy enuff
after surgery she didn't need it....but I bet she's really feeling it by
tonight. Awwwww...... poor baby. Good that he gave subQ's after surgery -
that's standard IF the vet is familiar with ferrets.
Best of luck with her. Hope she gets some pain meds. Don't be discouraged
that she's sleeping a lot the first couple of days. It seems like they sleep
like crazy, then before you know it they get up and pop back to themselves.
DO keep fluids and maybe some a/d in her tho to keep her strength and fluids
up.
jacquie
"Meighan Gibson" <meighan@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:FD3fc.12230$vF3.1185730@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Thanks Jacquie,
>
> Xena is still groggy from the anaesthetic and I'm sure she is in pain. She
> has not been moving much. She is responsive when I check on her.
Breathing
> seems fine not laboured at all. She just seems really, really tired. I
did
> get her to lick a few drops of water from my finger. And the vet gave her
> sub q ringers post surgery so I'm not concerned with dehydration yet. I
> will grab some pedialyte tomorrow while I'm at work ( great suggestion and
> can't hurt to have some on hand ). She is not interested in staying awake
> long enough to eat. I won't panic yet. :)
>
> The vet said that she came out of surgery and responded well during
> recovery. They were impressed with her wake time. I wish I was seeing
some
> of that tonight.
>
> He sent us home with baytril sub q twice daily until the culture comes
back
> to confirm antibiotic choice. ( I used to work in a few vet clinics so he
> chose injectable baytril as it is absorbed and used more efficiently by
the
> body and I can give the injections. ) He said he wouldn't normally send
> them home so quickly but since they are not monitored at night she was
> better off at home.
>
> I'm wondering about pain meds. He didn't prescribe any. I don't see any
> post surgery like torbugesic ( normally used in cats and dogs post
abdominal
> surgery ) or the like on the check out form. Are pain meds not normally
> used in ferrets? I can't find any info regarding this on the web. And of
> course it didn't occur to me until about an hour after the office closed
for
> the day. I will call in the a.m. if she is not more alert. I know pain
> would keep me sleeping as long as I could. But ferrets need to wake up to
> eat and drink more than we do.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Meighan and a very sleepy Xena.
>
>
> "jumpingmouse02@earthlink.net" <jumpingmouse@kylie@xx.com> wrote in
message
> news:cFZec.8345$k05.2717@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > Hi Meighan:
> >
> > Here is a lot of information that I got from Ferret Central that talks
> about
> > nursing the sick or recovering ferret:
> >
> > http://www.ferretcentral.org/faq/part5.html#nursing
> >
> > You may want to pick up some Hill's A/D (or whatever your vet wants her
to
> > be eating) while you're at the vet's office, as it is prescription only.
> > Warm a little and water it down until it's like thick broth, then put
some
> > on your finger and rub in her mouth a few times so she gets a taste,
then
> > put her nose down by it and hopefully she will eat. If not, keep
feeding
> it
> > to her off your finger.
> >
> > For a hospital cage, you need a one-story, no ramps, no hammock, nothing
> to
> > climb up on area. Keep clean blankies (extras so she doesn't get
chilled)
> > You may even want to put a heating pad on very very low temperature (or
> put
> > a blankie between so it is no more than warm) underneath the cage on one
> > side, but always leave room for her to get off it if she gets too hot.
> >
> > Your vet will probably encourage you to give her lots of fluids -
> Pedialyte
> > is great. Feed it with a syringe (no needle,of course) placed just
behind
> > her canines (the long teeth) and dribble it into her mouth. The secret
to
> > quick recovery in ferrets after surgery is keeping them well hydrated
> (lots
> > of fluids) and keeping them warm.
> >
> > I'm sure your vet will be checking her again tomorrow. If you have any
> > medical questions in the meantime, be sure to call his office right
away.
> If
> > you just have questions about care or how to make her comfortable, etc,
> how
> > to see if she is dehydrated, you are welcome to call me at (928)344-4651
> and
> > I'll try to help.
> >
> > Gentle hugs to your little one. Hope she recovers quickly and gets
> feeling
> > great real soon. You'll be surprised how quickly they snap back after
the
> > first day or two.
> >
> > jacquie, kylie & gilbert
> >
> >
> > "Meighan Gibson" <meighanremovespam@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:NSWec.6457$2Z6.562448@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Haven't posted in awhile but have continued to read about all of your
> > > ferrets. Condolences to all who have lost fuzzies.
> > >
> > > My little girl Xena underwent emergency surgery today for stump
pyometra
> > and
> > > left adrenal removal ( not the emergency but took it out while she was
> > > under ). The vet said he drained off the infection and flushed with
> > > antibiotics and is sending a sample for culture to ensure that the
right
> > > antibiotics are given to prevent reoccurrence.
> > >
> > > The left adrenal was enlarged so he removed it as I requested that he
do
> > > since she was under anyway. I assume the right was fine but will not
> know
> > > until I speak to him directly at 4 when we pick her up.
> > >
> > > What is the least that I need to know when I bring her home? I have
an
> > > extra cage that I can keep her in ( she has two sisters ). She will
be
> > > going to work with me tomorrow and my boyfriend is on midnights
Thursday
> > so
> > > she will be attended for most of 48 hours post surgery. What do I
need
> to
> > > do to ensure her health from a ferret person's perspective? I have
not
> > had
> > > a ferret post surgery before and just want to ensure her well being.
> > >
> > > Thanks so much in advance,
> > > Meighan and The Girls.
> > > Xena and Zora and the newest baby Emily.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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