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| Gwen & John |
Well the antibiotics have made absolutely no difference to Harry. In fact
he is worse. I am taking him back to the vet tomorrow. I am going to let
her operate tomorrow, because regardless of whether she is right or wrong
about adrenal tumour it is obvious she can feel something and whatever it is
is making my little boy one very sick little ferret. I just hope he makes
it through another night.
I made some bobs gravy and he will lick a little off my finger but seems to
gag on it and then go very still and lie flat and still as if he is having
trouble breathing.
Gwen
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| swamp |
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 23:28:23 +0100, "Gwen & John"
<gwenjohn@eastkent.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>Well the antibiotics have made absolutely no difference to Harry. In fact
>he is worse. I am taking him back to the vet tomorrow. I am going to let
>her operate tomorrow, because regardless of whether she is right or wrong
>about adrenal tumour it is obvious she can feel something and whatever it is
>is making my little boy one very sick little ferret. I just hope he makes
>it through another night.
By the time you see this it'll be breakfast time in Britain, but if
you haven't been to the vet yet you might ask her for some Carafate.
Administered 15-30 min. prior to feeding it can substantially increase
appetite and firm up the stools, and even if it doesn't it can't hurt.
Don't be surprised if it turns his poop to a light brown.
btw- if your vet says she palpated an enlarged adrenal I believe her.
It's just that Harry's symptoms, other than the lump, aren't
indicative of adrenal disease. However, sometimes the only way to
track down the cause in ferrets unresponsive to medication is to open
them up. Good luck tomorrow (today in the UK).
>I made some bobs gravy and he will lick a little off my finger but seems to
>gag on it and then go very still and lie flat and still as if he is having
>trouble breathing.
Poor guy... sounds like he's got something going on in there, whatever
it is. I hope it's a benign non-invasive growth pushing on his cecum
or something equally simple and correctable.
>Gwen
Best wishes,
-- swamp
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| Gwen & John |
Whatever it is. He sounds very congested and is just about able to breathe.
Vet can't fit him in until 3pm. Told her it's an emergency and that he will
be dead by then.
The annoying thing is is that they are the only vets around here, that I
know of, that know anything about ferrets and thats why the rescue centres
use them. It's 12.45 here and I just hope he make it till 3pm. The
annoying thing is if I was jobless I could rush him to the pdsa straight
away.
He wants to eat and drink but seems to almost suffocate on it when he does.
Does it sound like he could have eaten something that has blocked his
digestive system. Even if he's just about breathing could he still survive
the operation. What's his chances.
Gwen
<swamp> wrote in message news:a2dm709jq7u42fmke6q1bolba4btkmik6o@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 23:28:23 +0100, "Gwen & John"
> <gwenjohn@eastkent.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Well the antibiotics have made absolutely no difference to Harry. In
fact
> >he is worse. I am taking him back to the vet tomorrow. I am going to
let
> >her operate tomorrow, because regardless of whether she is right or wrong
> >about adrenal tumour it is obvious she can feel something and whatever it
is
> >is making my little boy one very sick little ferret. I just hope he
makes
> >it through another night.
>
> By the time you see this it'll be breakfast time in Britain, but if
> you haven't been to the vet yet you might ask her for some Carafate.
> Administered 15-30 min. prior to feeding it can substantially increase
> appetite and firm up the stools, and even if it doesn't it can't hurt.
> Don't be surprised if it turns his poop to a light brown.
>
> btw- if your vet says she palpated an enlarged adrenal I believe her.
> It's just that Harry's symptoms, other than the lump, aren't
> indicative of adrenal disease. However, sometimes the only way to
> track down the cause in ferrets unresponsive to medication is to open
> them up. Good luck tomorrow (today in the UK).
>
> >I made some bobs gravy and he will lick a little off my finger but seems
to
> >gag on it and then go very still and lie flat and still as if he is
having
> >trouble breathing.
>
> Poor guy... sounds like he's got something going on in there, whatever
> it is. I hope it's a benign non-invasive growth pushing on his cecum
> or something equally simple and correctable.
>
> >Gwen
>
> Best wishes,
>
> -- swamp
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| swamp |
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:48:24 +0100, "Gwen & John"
<gwenjohn@eastkent.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>Whatever it is. He sounds very congested and is just about able to breathe.
>Vet can't fit him in until 3pm. Told her it's an emergency and that he will
>be dead by then.
Sounds like he made it. The pred should help, but it takes a few days
to kick in. You'll also have to wean him off it.
>The annoying thing is is that they are the only vets around here, that I
>know of, that know anything about ferrets and thats why the rescue centres
>use them. It's 12.45 here and I just hope he make it till 3pm. The
>annoying thing is if I was jobless I could rush him to the pdsa straight
>away.
pdsa...?
>He wants to eat and drink but seems to almost suffocate on it when he does.
Suffocate or gag? Is he aspirating his food and/or water?
>Does it sound like he could have eaten something that has blocked his
>digestive system. Even if he's just about breathing could he still survive
>the operation. What's his chances.
Gwen, even a good ferret vet can't make those calls from 7000 miles
away, and I'm not a vet. As an owner, and depending on what the
radiographs/x-rays show, I'd worry more about whether he can make it
*w/o* surgery than whether he can make it *thru* surgery. If he's
unresponsive to antibiotics, and possibly pred, an exploratory may be
necessary. If a paper clip shows up on his radios you know what to do.
If standard pics are unrevealing, a barium series would be my next
choice.
This is the way *I* would handle it from the way you describe things,
not necessarily the right way. You and your vet have a first-hand,
close-up view which is much better than mine. Take everything I say
fwiw.
>Gwen
And tell Harry to hang in there,
-- swamp
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| Gwen & John |
You asked whether Harry suffocates after eating or gags. He suffocates,
then, if it's after drinking water, he chokes it up as lots of froth.
He's at the surgery now having his xrays and possible surgery or who knows.
I've worn the carpet out pacing about this morning. The people who lived in
my house before me liked gardening and planted many plants that come in the
polyestyrene containers. Although I have constantly, over the twenty years
we have lived here, picked out of the soil the retched stuff, it still
surfaces occasionally and I have caught one of them eating it before and am
very aware of the dangers.
Gwen
<swamp> wrote in message news:cvro70dm84a2ahot3g634jlhgaid8jia3q@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:48:24 +0100, "Gwen & John"
> <gwenjohn@eastkent.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Whatever it is. He sounds very congested and is just about able to
breathe.
> >Vet can't fit him in until 3pm. Told her it's an emergency and that he
will
> >be dead by then.
>
> Sounds like he made it. The pred should help, but it takes a few days
> to kick in. You'll also have to wean him off it.
>
> >The annoying thing is is that they are the only vets around here, that I
> >know of, that know anything about ferrets and thats why the rescue
centres
> >use them. It's 12.45 here and I just hope he make it till 3pm. The
> >annoying thing is if I was jobless I could rush him to the pdsa straight
> >away.
>
> pdsa...?
>
> >He wants to eat and drink but seems to almost suffocate on it when he
does.
>
> Suffocate or gag? Is he aspirating his food and/or water?
>
> >Does it sound like he could have eaten something that has blocked his
> >digestive system. Even if he's just about breathing could he still
survive
> >the operation. What's his chances.
>
> Gwen, even a good ferret vet can't make those calls from 7000 miles
> away, and I'm not a vet. As an owner, and depending on what the
> radiographs/x-rays show, I'd worry more about whether he can make it
> *w/o* surgery than whether he can make it *thru* surgery. If he's
> unresponsive to antibiotics, and possibly pred, an exploratory may be
> necessary. If a paper clip shows up on his radios you know what to do.
> If standard pics are unrevealing, a barium series would be my next
> choice.
>
> This is the way *I* would handle it from the way you describe things,
> not necessarily the right way. You and your vet have a first-hand,
> close-up view which is much better than mine. Take everything I say
> fwiw.
>
> >Gwen
>
> And tell Harry to hang in there,
>
> -- swamp
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| Gwen & John |
Sad to say, Harry didn't make it. When they opened him up they found lots
of tumours. His lungs were full of fluid. They felt it would be cruel to
try and keep him going. Until a fortnight ago you wouldn't of thought there
was anything wrong with him so my one consolation is that he hasn't suffered
to long.
Thanks for helping me through it.
Gwen
"Gwen & John" <gwenjohn@eastkent.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c5j7gv$c1v$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> You asked whether Harry suffocates after eating or gags. He suffocates,
> then, if it's after drinking water, he chokes it up as lots of froth.
>
> He's at the surgery now having his xrays and possible surgery or who
knows.
> I've worn the carpet out pacing about this morning. The people who lived
in
> my house before me liked gardening and planted many plants that come in
the
> polyestyrene containers. Although I have constantly, over the twenty
years
> we have lived here, picked out of the soil the retched stuff, it still
> surfaces occasionally and I have caught one of them eating it before and
am
> very aware of the dangers.
>
> Gwen
>
>
> <swamp> wrote in message
news:cvro70dm84a2ahot3g634jlhgaid8jia3q@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:48:24 +0100, "Gwen & John"
> > <gwenjohn@eastkent.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >Whatever it is. He sounds very congested and is just about able to
> breathe.
> > >Vet can't fit him in until 3pm. Told her it's an emergency and that he
> will
> > >be dead by then.
> >
> > Sounds like he made it. The pred should help, but it takes a few days
> > to kick in. You'll also have to wean him off it.
> >
> > >The annoying thing is is that they are the only vets around here, that
I
> > >know of, that know anything about ferrets and thats why the rescue
> centres
> > >use them. It's 12.45 here and I just hope he make it till 3pm. The
> > >annoying thing is if I was jobless I could rush him to the pdsa
straight
> > >away.
> >
> > pdsa...?
> >
> > >He wants to eat and drink but seems to almost suffocate on it when he
> does.
> >
> > Suffocate or gag? Is he aspirating his food and/or water?
> >
> > >Does it sound like he could have eaten something that has blocked his
> > >digestive system. Even if he's just about breathing could he still
> survive
> > >the operation. What's his chances.
> >
> > Gwen, even a good ferret vet can't make those calls from 7000 miles
> > away, and I'm not a vet. As an owner, and depending on what the
> > radiographs/x-rays show, I'd worry more about whether he can make it
> > *w/o* surgery than whether he can make it *thru* surgery. If he's
> > unresponsive to antibiotics, and possibly pred, an exploratory may be
> > necessary. If a paper clip shows up on his radios you know what to do.
> > If standard pics are unrevealing, a barium series would be my next
> > choice.
> >
> > This is the way *I* would handle it from the way you describe things,
> > not necessarily the right way. You and your vet have a first-hand,
> > close-up view which is much better than mine. Take everything I say
> > fwiw.
> >
> > >Gwen
> >
> > And tell Harry to hang in there,
> >
> > -- swamp
>
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| Paula |
Oh Gwen I'm so sorry for you. We loved Harry when your boys visited (at
least he didn't beat up mine), and his big black nose, and his funny
ways....
our condolences
Paula & James
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& Biffa, Rumpus, Banzai & DC
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"Gwen & John" <gwenjohn@eastkent.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c5jcn2$4vp$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Sad to say, Harry didn't make it. When they opened him up they found lots
> of tumours. His lungs were full of fluid. They felt it would be cruel to
> try and keep him going. Until a fortnight ago you wouldn't of thought
there
> was anything wrong with him so my one consolation is that he hasn't
suffered
> to long.
>
> Thanks for helping me through it.
>
> Gwen
>
>
> "Gwen & John" <gwenjohn@eastkent.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:c5j7gv$c1v$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > You asked whether Harry suffocates after eating or gags. He suffocates,
> > then, if it's after drinking water, he chokes it up as lots of froth.
> >
> > He's at the surgery now having his xrays and possible surgery or who
> knows.
> > I've worn the carpet out pacing about this morning. The people who
lived
> in
> > my house before me liked gardening and planted many plants that come in
> the
> > polyestyrene containers. Although I have constantly, over the twenty
> years
> > we have lived here, picked out of the soil the retched stuff, it still
> > surfaces occasionally and I have caught one of them eating it before and
> am
> > very aware of the dangers.
> >
> > Gwen
> >
> >
> > <swamp> wrote in message
> news:cvro70dm84a2ahot3g634jlhgaid8jia3q@4ax.com...
> > > On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:48:24 +0100, "Gwen & John"
> > > <gwenjohn@eastkent.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Whatever it is. He sounds very congested and is just about able to
> > breathe.
> > > >Vet can't fit him in until 3pm. Told her it's an emergency and that
he
> > will
> > > >be dead by then.
> > >
> > > Sounds like he made it. The pred should help, but it takes a few days
> > > to kick in. You'll also have to wean him off it.
> > >
> > > >The annoying thing is is that they are the only vets around here,
that
> I
> > > >know of, that know anything about ferrets and thats why the rescue
> > centres
> > > >use them. It's 12.45 here and I just hope he make it till 3pm. The
> > > >annoying thing is if I was jobless I could rush him to the pdsa
> straight
> > > >away.
> > >
> > > pdsa...?
> > >
> > > >He wants to eat and drink but seems to almost suffocate on it when he
> > does.
> > >
> > > Suffocate or gag? Is he aspirating his food and/or water?
> > >
> > > >Does it sound like he could have eaten something that has blocked his
> > > >digestive system. Even if he's just about breathing could he still
> > survive
> > > >the operation. What's his chances.
> > >
> > > Gwen, even a good ferret vet can't make those calls from 7000 miles
> > > away, and I'm not a vet. As an owner, and depending on what the
> > > radiographs/x-rays show, I'd worry more about whether he can make it
> > > *w/o* surgery than whether he can make it *thru* surgery. If he's
> > > unresponsive to antibiotics, and possibly pred, an exploratory may be
> > > necessary. If a paper clip shows up on his radios you know what to do.
> > > If standard pics are unrevealing, a barium series would be my next
> > > choice.
> > >
> > > This is the way *I* would handle it from the way you describe things,
> > > not necessarily the right way. You and your vet have a first-hand,
> > > close-up view which is much better than mine. Take everything I say
> > > fwiw.
> > >
> > > >Gwen
> > >
> > > And tell Harry to hang in there,
> > >
> > > -- swamp
> >
> >
>
>
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| swamp |
On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:01:14 +0100, "Gwen & John"
<gwenjohn@eastkent.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>Sad to say, Harry didn't make it. When they opened him up they found lots
>of tumours. His lungs were full of fluid. They felt it would be cruel to
>try and keep him going. Until a fortnight ago you wouldn't of thought there
>was anything wrong with him so my one consolation is that he hasn't suffered
>to long.
Sorry to hear it, Gwen. Sounds like you and the vet made the right
decision if it's any further consolation.
>Thanks for helping me through it.
>
>Gwen
Condolences,
-- swamp
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| Lin |
(((((((((Gwen)))))))))
:-(.....
Lin, Ariel, Oberon, & Max
"Gwen & John" <gwenjohn@eastkent.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c5jcn2$4vp$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Sad to say, Harry didn't make it. When they opened him up they found lots
> of tumours. His lungs were full of fluid. They felt it would be cruel to
> try and keep him going. Until a fortnight ago you wouldn't of thought
there
> was anything wrong with him so my one consolation is that he hasn't
suffered
> to long.
>
> Thanks for helping me through it.
>
> Gwen
>
>
> "Gwen & John" <gwenjohn@eastkent.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:c5j7gv$c1v$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > You asked whether Harry suffocates after eating or gags. He suffocates,
> > then, if it's after drinking water, he chokes it up as lots of froth.
> >
> > He's at the surgery now having his xrays and possible surgery or who
> knows.
> > I've worn the carpet out pacing about this morning. The people who
lived
> in
> > my house before me liked gardening and planted many plants that come in
> the
> > polyestyrene containers. Although I have constantly, over the twenty
> years
> > we have lived here, picked out of the soil the retched stuff, it still
> > surfaces occasionally and I have caught one of them eating it before and
> am
> > very aware of the dangers.
> >
> > Gwen
> >
> >
> > <swamp> wrote in message
> news:cvro70dm84a2ahot3g634jlhgaid8jia3q@4ax.com...
> > > On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:48:24 +0100, "Gwen & John"
> > > <gwenjohn@eastkent.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Whatever it is. He sounds very congested and is just about able to
> > breathe.
> > > >Vet can't fit him in until 3pm. Told her it's an emergency and that
he
> > will
> > > >be dead by then.
> > >
> > > Sounds like he made it. The pred should help, but it takes a few days
> > > to kick in. You'll also have to wean him off it.
> > >
> > > >The annoying thing is is that they are the only vets around here,
that
> I
> > > >know of, that know anything about ferrets and thats why the rescue
> > centres
> > > >use them. It's 12.45 here and I just hope he make it till 3pm. The
> > > >annoying thing is if I was jobless I could rush him to the pdsa
> straight
> > > >away.
> > >
> > > pdsa...?
> > >
> > > >He wants to eat and drink but seems to almost suffocate on it when he
> > does.
> > >
> > > Suffocate or gag? Is he aspirating his food and/or water?
> > >
> > > >Does it sound like he could have eaten something that has blocked his
> > > >digestive system. Even if he's just about breathing could he still
> > survive
> > > >the operation. What's his chances.
> > >
> > > Gwen, even a good ferret vet can't make those calls from 7000 miles
> > > away, and I'm not a vet. As an owner, and depending on what the
> > > radiographs/x-rays show, I'd worry more about whether he can make it
> > > *w/o* surgery than whether he can make it *thru* surgery. If he's
> > > unresponsive to antibiotics, and possibly pred, an exploratory may be
> > > necessary. If a paper clip shows up on his radios you know what to do.
> > > If standard pics are unrevealing, a barium series would be my next
> > > choice.
> > >
> > > This is the way *I* would handle it from the way you describe things,
> > > not necessarily the right way. You and your vet have a first-hand,
> > > close-up view which is much better than mine. Take everything I say
> > > fwiw.
> > >
> > > >Gwen
> > >
> > > And tell Harry to hang in there,
> > >
> > > -- swamp
> >
> >
>
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| Kathouze |
>gwenjohn@eastkent.freeserve.co.uk wrote in message
>Sad to say, Harry didn't make it.
I looked_heavenward_last night and what did I see?
A long slinky shape dancing and smiling at me.
_
I asked where he was going, but he wouldn't say.
Only that he was going to dook and play.
_
Come little one, I cajoled, tell me who you are.
He chuckled, twirled and said a new bright star.
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I_pleaded to know this special star's name.
He chortled,I have but one claim to fame.
_
My family loved me every single day.
I asked,_you're sure_that is_all you want to say?
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He just turned with a jaunty_wink and left me to stare.
Vanished_into multicolored mist and went elsewhere.
May Harry dance forever in your heart.
Sandy and the Dook City Gang
Tempus Fuzzit
kathouze pictures
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery...ername=kathouze
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