| Baerana |
I had parakeets when I was younger, and I really want another bird.
What I *really* want is an African Grey Parrot. However, I want to make
sure I select the right bird. Obviously my first priority is keeping it
happy and healthy.
1) I have some experience with parrots - in college, I pet-sat and
house-sat and some of my clients had parrots and other birds. I *think*
I got along well with the parrots - I never got nipped and they let me
pet them, they talked to me, etc. but these may have been friendlier
than usual birds. I've never lived with any birds other than the 2
parakeets.
2) I live in an apartment. My landlord says birds are fine, as long as
the neighbors don't complain about the noise. I know large birds tend
to be noisy. I like to think I could keep it happy enough that it
didn't feel the need to scream and bother the neighbors, but this may be
a stupid fantasy on my part :)
3) I telecommute so the bird would never have to be lonely
4) I can afford proper medical care, even in the event something
expensive happens, like the bird needs surgery or something.
5) I am young and should be able to care for the bird for decades.
Still, I always make sure that if something happens to me, I've arranged
for my pet(s) to be taken care of properly for the rest of their lives.
6) I have a pet bunny (my only pet at the time). I need to make sure
she is compatible with any new animal that joins our family. Bunnies
are sometimes scared of birds (since they are prey to large birds like
hawks), and if the bird screams or makes lots of loud noises, the bunny
couldn't handle it. Also, I worry that the bird might injure the bunny.
I have the time and flexibility to give them separate "outside the
cage" time, but due to the layout of my apartment, their cages cannot be
in separate rooms. (if you want to see pics of my adorable bunny, here
you go - http://www.baerana.com/nibbler.html)
7) I am patient with animals - messes don't bother me, I cheerfully
clean them up, again and again and again :) Also, I realize that
dealing with new pets, particularly small ones, sometimes you get nipped
or scratched during the process where they are learning to trust you,
and I would never get angry at an animal for this, hit it, yell at it, etc.
8) Ideally, I'd like a bird that can talk and play with me. However,
this may be a bid idea. If so, maybe something that sings like a
canary. I saw a beautiful pink canary once but I think choosing a bird
because of how it looks is stupid. Maybe I should get something like a
pair of lovebirds?
Anyway, I'd appreciate any suggestions as to what kind of bird would
suit my situation the best. Also, if anyone has any books/websites to
recommend to people thinking of getting a bird and new bird guardians,
I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!!
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| Kimberlee |
So, why not go for the Grey?
It sounds like you are giving this new companion a lot of consideration, and
that's wonderful!
Here's a cool website to research birds
http://www.arndt-verlag.com/projekt...htm&Pic=286_1.J
The Lexicon doesn't give info on personalities, but you can find info
online.
If you want a smaller bird, cockatiels and parrotlets are smaller, um...with
*big* personalities!
All birds are noisy, and tend to have noisier times during the day.
Reinforcing negative behavior is a mistake made by many new bird owners. If
a bird screams to be let out of its cage, and a person run straight to the
cage and lets the bird out, the bird has just learned to become a screaming
bird!
You'll get lots of feedback from this group.
Good luck on your quest, and keep us posted on what you choose to do!
~Kimberlee
"Baerana" <usenet1@baerana.com> wrote in message
news:EZGdnSGpWcToK1fdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> I had parakeets when I was younger, and I really want another bird.
> What I *really* want is an African Grey Parrot. However, I want to make
> sure I select the right bird. Obviously my first priority is keeping it
> happy and healthy.
>
> 1) I have some experience with parrots - in college, I pet-sat and
> house-sat and some of my clients had parrots and other birds. I *think*
> I got along well with the parrots - I never got nipped and they let me
> pet them, they talked to me, etc. but these may have been friendlier
> than usual birds. I've never lived with any birds other than the 2
> parakeets.
>
> 2) I live in an apartment. My landlord says birds are fine, as long as
> the neighbors don't complain about the noise. I know large birds tend
> to be noisy. I like to think I could keep it happy enough that it
> didn't feel the need to scream and bother the neighbors, but this may be
> a stupid fantasy on my part :)
>
> 3) I telecommute so the bird would never have to be lonely
>
> 4) I can afford proper medical care, even in the event something
> expensive happens, like the bird needs surgery or something.
>
> 5) I am young and should be able to care for the bird for decades.
> Still, I always make sure that if something happens to me, I've arranged
> for my pet(s) to be taken care of properly for the rest of their lives.
>
> 6) I have a pet bunny (my only pet at the time). I need to make sure
> she is compatible with any new animal that joins our family. Bunnies
> are sometimes scared of birds (since they are prey to large birds like
> hawks), and if the bird screams or makes lots of loud noises, the bunny
> couldn't handle it. Also, I worry that the bird might injure the bunny.
> I have the time and flexibility to give them separate "outside the
> cage" time, but due to the layout of my apartment, their cages cannot be
> in separate rooms. (if you want to see pics of my adorable bunny, here
> you go - http://www.baerana.com/nibbler.html)
>
> 7) I am patient with animals - messes don't bother me, I cheerfully
> clean them up, again and again and again :) Also, I realize that
> dealing with new pets, particularly small ones, sometimes you get nipped
> or scratched during the process where they are learning to trust you,
> and I would never get angry at an animal for this, hit it, yell at it,
etc.
>
> 8) Ideally, I'd like a bird that can talk and play with me. However,
> this may be a bid idea. If so, maybe something that sings like a
> canary. I saw a beautiful pink canary once but I think choosing a bird
> because of how it looks is stupid. Maybe I should get something like a
> pair of lovebirds?
>
> Anyway, I'd appreciate any suggestions as to what kind of bird would
> suit my situation the best. Also, if anyone has any books/websites to
> recommend to people thinking of getting a bird and new bird guardians,
> I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!!
>
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| Alex Clayton |
"Baerana" <usenet1@baerana.com> wrote in message
news:EZGdnSGpWcToK1fdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> I had parakeets when I was younger, and I really want another bird.
> What I *really* want is an African Grey Parrot. However, I want to make
> sure I select the right bird. Obviously my first priority is keeping it
> happy and healthy.
>
> 1) I have some experience with parrots - in college, I pet-sat and
> house-sat and some of my clients had parrots and other birds. I *think*
> I got along well with the parrots - I never got nipped and they let me
> pet them, they talked to me, etc. but these may have been friendlier
> than usual birds. I've never lived with any birds other than the 2
> parakeets.
>
> 2) I live in an apartment. My landlord says birds are fine, as long as
> the neighbors don't complain about the noise. I know large birds tend
> to be noisy. I like to think I could keep it happy enough that it
> didn't feel the need to scream and bother the neighbors, but this may be
> a stupid fantasy on my part :)
Most of the larger birds make some "noise". It's controllable to some extent
as long as you do not train the bird to scream. The noise they make should
only be during the day, but a lot depends on how well built the apartments
are. If you can hear the neighbors TV or talking they will of course hear
the bird.
>
> 3) I telecommute so the bird would never have to be lonely
>
> 4) I can afford proper medical care, even in the event something
> expensive happens, like the bird needs surgery or something.
>
> 5) I am young and should be able to care for the bird for decades.
> Still, I always make sure that if something happens to me, I've arranged
> for my pet(s) to be taken care of properly for the rest of their lives.
>
> 6) I have a pet bunny (my only pet at the time). I need to make sure
> she is compatible with any new animal that joins our family. Bunnies
> are sometimes scared of birds (since they are prey to large birds like
> hawks), and if the bird screams or makes lots of loud noises, the bunny
> couldn't handle it. Also, I worry that the bird might injure the bunny.
> I have the time and flexibility to give them separate "outside the
> cage" time, but due to the layout of my apartment, their cages cannot be
> in separate rooms. (if you want to see pics of my adorable bunny, here
> you go - http://www.baerana.com/nibbler.html)
>
The Bunny should be not problem. The bird may want to bite it if it was with
you and you were trying to hold the bird. They can get jealous of attention,
but I doubt a Parrot would go out of it's way to attack the Bunny.
> 7) I am patient with animals - messes don't bother me, I cheerfully
> clean them up, again and again and again :) Also, I realize that
> dealing with new pets, particularly small ones, sometimes you get nipped
> or scratched during the process where they are learning to trust you,
> and I would never get angry at an animal for this, hit it, yell at it,
etc.
>
> 8) Ideally, I'd like a bird that can talk and play with me. However,
> this may be a bid idea. If so, maybe something that sings like a
> canary. I saw a beautiful pink canary once but I think choosing a bird
> because of how it looks is stupid. Maybe I should get something like a
> pair of lovebirds?
If you want a bird that will play with you basically any Parrot will if it
is hand fed and tame. They will bond with you and want attention. Love Birds
make a great pet, but they need to be hand fed tame to be fun to handle. If
you get a pair that are parent raised, they will be VERY hard to tame to the
point you could handle them. It can be done, but they have a mean bite, and
are very aggressive.
>
> Anyway, I'd appreciate any suggestions as to what kind of bird would
> suit my situation the best. Also, if anyone has any books/websites to
> recommend to people thinking of getting a bird and new bird guardians,
> I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!!
>
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| Daemon |
To: "Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com>
Re: Re: Help selecting a bird
By: "Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> to rec.pets.birds on Sat Jun 12 2004 09:29 pm
> If you want a bird that will play with you basically any Parrot will if it
> is hand fed and tame. They will bond with you and want attention. Love Birds
> make a great pet, but they need to be hand fed tame to be fun to handle. If
> you get a pair that are parent raised, they will be VERY hard to tame to the
> point you could handle them. It can be done, but they have a mean bite, and
> are very aggressive.
This is SO true... I bought a Peach-Face Lovebird a while back that was just
BRUTAL to tame because she wasn't hand-fed.
I endured bites that were vicious on a level I never expected could come from
such a small creature for 2 to 3 weeks before she finally started to learn that
I wasn't a threat to her, even if she attacked.
Then, she mellowed with me, became very tame, and jealous. If I showed any
attention to any other living thing in her presence (the Mrs., the dogs, the
'tiels, the 'keet, the iguana, the kid...) she'd scream like crazy and beat the
hell out of her toys. I'd open her cage and say, "What's your problem, Opus?
You wanna come out?" and she'd stalk down the cage-plank (I swear she was
trying to stamp her little feet) and glare, head slightly cocked. I'd imitate
her at the edge of the plank, and, suddenly, she'd JUMP at me... And nuzzle
her head on my cheek. :)
She had a great personality. Definitely worth taking all she could dish-out
to get close to her, and would have been worth far more.
She hated everyone else on earth (she tended to rush the cage wall like an
inmate in a rubber room when anyone else got near the cage, prompting my buddy
to insist I let him call her "Cujo"), but we got along great.
Of all the animals I've had and trained, I miss her among the most.
...Ralph Abramo
...In the shuffling madness...
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| Alex Clayton |
"Daemon" <daemon@necropolisbbs.darktech.org.remove-2dd-this> wrote in
message news:40CBD094.215.recpbird@necropolisbbs.darktech.org...
>
> This is SO true... I bought a Peach-Face Lovebird a while back that was
just
> BRUTAL to tame because she wasn't hand-fed.
>
> I endured bites that were vicious on a level I never expected could come
from
> such a small creature for 2 to 3 weeks before she finally started to learn
that
> I wasn't a threat to her, even if she attacked.
>
> Then, she mellowed with me, became very tame, and jealous. If I showed
any
> attention to any other living thing in her presence (the Mrs., the dogs,
the
> 'tiels, the 'keet, the iguana, the kid...) she'd scream like crazy and
beat the
> hell out of her toys. I'd open her cage and say, "What's your problem,
Opus?
> You wanna come out?" and she'd stalk down the cage-plank (I swear she was
> trying to stamp her little feet) and glare, head slightly cocked. I'd
imitate
> her at the edge of the plank, and, suddenly, she'd JUMP at me... And
nuzzle
> her head on my cheek. :)
>
> She had a great personality. Definitely worth taking all she could
dish-out
> to get close to her, and would have been worth far more.
>
> She hated everyone else on earth (she tended to rush the cage wall like
an
> inmate in a rubber room when anyone else got near the cage, prompting my
buddy
> to insist I let him call her "Cujo"), but we got along great.
>
> Of all the animals I've had and trained, I miss her among the most.
>
> ...Ralph Abramo
> ...In the shuffling madness...
>
>
LOL, yep that sounds like a LB all right. They have a lot of personality in
a small package!!! <G>
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| Daemon |
To: "Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com>
Re: Re: Help selecting a bird
By: "Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> to rec.pets.birds on Sun Jun 13 2004 07:46 pm
> > She hated everyone else on earth (she tended to rush the cage wall like
> an
> > inmate in a rubber room when anyone else got near the cage, prompting my
> buddy
> > to insist I let him call her "Cujo"), but we got along great.
> >
> > Of all the animals I've had and trained, I miss her among the most.
> >
> > ...Ralph Abramo
> > ...In the shuffling madness...
> >
> >
>
> LOL, yep that sounds like a LB all right. They have a lot of personality in
> a small package!!! <G>
Cool, so they're commonly like that, huh? I'm tempted to get another one,
much younger this time. It's been a few years since we lost Opus, now (freaky
thing about that... she passed away unexpectedly on the same day the Wife's
grandmother died... gave us chills), and it isn't such a fresh wound.
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| Alex Clayton |
"Daemon" <daemon@necropolisbbs.darktech.org.remove-e3o-this> wrote in
message news:40CCAC20.241.recpbird@necropolisbbs.darktech.org...
>
> Cool, so they're commonly like that, huh? I'm tempted to get another
one,
> much younger this time. It's been a few years since we lost Opus, now
(freaky
> thing about that... she passed away unexpectedly on the same day the
Wife's
> grandmother died... gave us chills), and it isn't such a fresh wound.
>
>
>
Sorry about the loss, but yes, most LB's are a bundle of personality all
right. If you want one as a pet, as with any Parrot the best thing to do is
get a hand fed tame bird. It used to be hard to find them, but the last
several years more people seem to have realized that there is a market for
them, and more breeders are hand feeding them. A wild one can of course be
tamed, but it's a lot of work. Many people just never realized what a great
pet they can be because they only ever had experience with pairs of wild
ones, that were vicious to humans <G>
--
If at first you don't succeed blame someone else and seek counseling.
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| John Hines |
Baerana <usenet1@baerana.com> wrote:
>I had parakeets when I was younger, and I really want another bird.
>What I *really* want is an African Grey Parrot. However, I want to make
>sure I select the right bird.
It is like love, there is no hard and fast rule.
Wait for your grey, but visit breeders and stores where you would
consider getting a bird from, and see what they have.
And then let nature take its course. As to who picked whom, between me
and my goffin Cosmo, I don't know. He won my heart, talking and trying
to play with me from the cage in the store.
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> > I endured bites that were vicious on a level I never expected
could come
>> from such a small creature
We used to call Love Birds "flying razor blades" ;-D
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
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if they invent a refrigerator with a wide-screen tv and
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| Daemon |
To: John Hines <jbhines@newsguy.com>
Re: Re: Help selecting a bird
By: John Hines <jbhines@newsguy.com> to rec.pets.birds on Mon Jun 14 2004 12:06 pm
> >I had parakeets when I was younger, and I really want another bird.
> >What I *really* want is an African Grey Parrot. However, I want to make
> >sure I select the right bird.
>
> It is like love, there is no hard and fast rule.
>
> Wait for your grey, but visit breeders and stores where you would
> consider getting a bird from, and see what they have.
>
*nods* I've been visiting aviaries and pet shops in my area for a little
over a year now, getting to know their birds, looking for a Grey. Preferably
male, as a good friend has a healthy, lively, and very-well-tempered female
(though she does occasionally spew out some acid phrases she learned from this
friend's alcoholic ex-husband :) ). We may occasionally breed them down the
road. This friend's already indicated that, in the next few years, she'll
probably be transferring ownership to me anyway, as she'll likely be moving out
of state, so it may work out.
Anyway, there are quite a few around that have appealing characteristics, but
I'm leaning towards waiting for young to come from a particular breeding pair a
few miles away from me. The owner of the establishment is just excellent at
taming birds, and the parent greys are gorgeous.
I love handling/training babies best. Never had a bird yet that didn't turn
out to have a remarkable personality that came to me as a baby.
> And then let nature take its course. As to who picked whom, between me
> and my goffin Cosmo, I don't know. He won my heart, talking and trying
> to play with me from the cage in the store.
That's how I got my first 'tiel, Dante. He was whistling something as I was
walking through the store. After a few minutes, it dawned on me that it was
part of the Addams' Family theme. He hopped right out of the cage onto my hand
and nuzzled his head on my thumb (pretty much turning himself upside down to do
it), loved to be petted on the belly, back, etc. I wasn't in the market for a
bird that day, either - I was actually there to pick up supplies for my
lizards. Now he leads the roost, essentially. The rest of our birds have all
been meticulously taught all of his songs and phrases, and he's even decided
he's master over the dogs.
Hilarious sight... A cocky 'tiel stalking accross the floor squawking at
full volume, wings stretched, putting a 160 lb. Doberman in its place.
Poor dog's gotta have a complex by now. :)
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| Daemon |
To: "XXXXgizzieXXXX" <xxgizziexx@comcast.net>
Re: Re: Help selecting a bird
By: "XXXXgizzieXXXX" <xxgizziexx@comcast.net> to rec.pets.birds on Tue Jun 15 2004 03:19 pm
> > > I endured bites that were vicious on a level I never expected
> could come
> >> from such a small creature
>
> We used to call Love Birds "flying razor blades" ;-D
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hehe... Very apt.
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| Just Molly |
"Cookie" <smiling_angel48@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:87779a9e.0406170516.2088b270@posting.google.com...
> An African Grey will 9.5 times out of 10 learn to talk and in >context.
I must have the 2 out of 20 which don't talk then.
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| Cookie |
>
> 6) I have a pet bunny (my only pet at the time). I need to make sure
> she is compatible with any new animal that joins our family. Bunnies
> are sometimes scared of birds (since they are prey to large birds like
> hawks), and if the bird screams or makes lots of loud noises, the bunny
> couldn't handle it. Also, I worry that the bird might injure the bunny.
> I have the time and flexibility to give them separate "outside the
> cage" time, but due to the layout of my apartment, their cages cannot be
> in separate rooms. (if you want to see pics of my adorable bunny, here
> you go - http://www.baerana.com/nibbler.html)
Should be fine so long as you don't force them upon each other (i.e.
letting the parrot climb on the bunny's cage, etc.)
>
> 7) I am patient with animals - messes don't bother me, I cheerfully
> clean them up, again and again and again :) Also, I realize that
> dealing with new pets, particularly small ones, sometimes you get nipped
> or scratched during the process where they are learning to trust you,
> and I would never get angry at an animal for this, hit it, yell at it, etc.
It is good that you cheerfully clean up after. Parrots - unless potty
trained - need lots of cleaning up after. Our Sun Conure is potty
trained, and can sit on your shoulder for over 1/2 hour without going
his thing. However, I usually have him go on his T-stand every 15
minutes so he won't get constipated, etc. He goes right away and then
is back on the shoulder.
>
> 8) Ideally, I'd like a bird that can talk and play with me. However,
> this may be a bid idea. If so, maybe something that sings like a
> canary. I saw a beautiful pink canary once but I think choosing a bird
> because of how it looks is stupid. Maybe I should get something like a
> pair of lovebirds?
An African Grey will 9.5 times out of 10 learn to talk and in context.
Most bigger birds like to be played with and cuddled. My Sun Conure
will sit on your shoulder and make cute little contentment noises
while snuggling under your hair or shirt. Once he fell asleep on my
shoulder. When he wants treats or to be picked up, he will sit there
looking at you saying "step up! step. step up!"
Are you aware of how intelligent AG's are, and if you don't keep them
constantly stimulated, they will often feather pluck. A hard habit to
break once it gets started.
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| Just Molly |
"Gloria Carr" <platedlizard@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Just Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:uShAc.332$sc3.30@newsfe6-gui.server.ntli.net...
> >
> > "Cookie" <smiling_angel48@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:87779a9e.0406170516.2088b270@posting.google.com...
> > > An African Grey will 9.5 times out of 10 learn to talk and in
>context.
> > I must have the 2 out of 20 which don't talk then.
>
> Yeah, but your birds are kept in a more flock-oriented enviroment (ie lots
> and lots of other birds) then most pet greys. Seems to me that would make
> them less likely to talk human, and more likely to talk bird. Nothing
wrong
> with that.
Not true, as most of my birds do in fact talk. Birds that didn't talk when
they came here, end up copying the ones who do. The 2 african grey however
simply don't talk. I don't mind a bit as we communicate by copying each
others whistles and 'Piper' does a fair rendition of 'Colonel bogey' :0)
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"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
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I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
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"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
--
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
**************************************************
*****************
"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
**************************************************
*******************
|
|
|
| XXXXgizzieXXXX |
"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
> Someone on this list once said that only very experienced bird folks
should
> adopt problem birds. I'm inclined to agree.
Absolutly. Otherwise, it's a vicious cycle, Problem Bird,
Frustrated Owner, FO sells PB to Clueless Newbie Looking For Bargain
Bird, CNLFBB can not handle PB, PB becomes SUPER!PB, CNLFBB becomes
FO2, FO2 sells S!PB to CNLFBB2, CNLFBB2 can not handle S!PB, S!PB
becomes.... you get the picture.
> I don't have the time to nurture an abused or neglected bird...and
although
> I'd like to think I do, I probably don't have the experience,
either!
It's kind of like the job thing--you can't get a job without
experience, you can't get experience without a job. I used to have a
normal, 40 hour a week job; that was when I cut my bird teeth, so to
speak. I could never do now what I did then, and truth be told, I
often feel I should give my parrots--especially this smart-as-a-whip
Cockatoo--away to someone who could/would give them lots and LOTS of
attention. But I can't.
> But to think of the birds out there who are so intelligent who need
a good
> home sometimes just breaks my heart.
Yeah, me, too. And don;t get me started on dogs, especailly
large breeds.
("Well, YEAH I keep my Saint Bernard outside all the time--she's too
big to be in t he house" "She's a **SAINT BERNARD**, asshole--she's
SUPPOSED to be big. You knew that when you BOUGHT her". Jesus. It
takes a certain type of person to do any animal "rescue", I think--and
I know I'm not that person.
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"Ya know the other day, when you were making me laugh?
I wasn't kidding--I really DIDN'T hide your Buffy DVDs"
"That's OK, I didn't get any thing done this week, anyway"
"What'd you do all week?"
"Pissed around on the computer, mostly. It was like 1998,
but with less people--like cyber masturbation."
The Giz and the EP--discussing her vacation week
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"Kimberlee" <> wrote
> Gizzie,
> Very, very good info.
<curtsey>
> I would have never given any thought to going into a separate room
with the
> bird.
Well, you can do that, too, but what I suggest is go into another
room and LEAVE THE BIRD ALONE, to see if it is a solitary screamer.
The very first time I saw a pet Moluccan2 was a bird-club friend, we
were playing with the bird, then went into the kitchen to have coffee.
Moments later, I heard this horRIFfic noise--it was that bird,
screaming, this woman lived by train tracks, I swore there was a
freight train about to come through the front door. I knew right then
I would never own one of these beautiful birds.
>Before I buy a big bird (20 years down the road, at the rate I'm
> going...), I'm going to send you a ticket to Alaska so you can go
with me
> <VBG>!
Oh, goodie! I've always wanted to visit Alaska :)
> No; I didn't go see the bird...I went into "rescue mode" for a few
minutes,
> then realized that after our home burned down, I needed to balance
the need
> to rescue against the need for a place to put the bird! <grin>
Yikes.
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