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| Cindy Eddy |
I currently have two budgies. One english and one american. There is a woman
near me that is wanting to get rid of a 4 month old quaker. My question is,
can I house the quaker with the budgies or should I get him a seperate cage.
The cage that my budgies are in is plenty big enough for all three of them
so that's not an issue. I'm just wondering if the two species would get
along.
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| Debbie Krug |
"Cindy Eddy" <csmilee22@charter.net> wrote in message
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> I currently have two budgies. One english and one american. There is a
woman
> near me that is wanting to get rid of a 4 month old quaker. My question
is,
> can I house the quaker with the budgies or should I get him a seperate
cage.
> The cage that my budgies are in is plenty big enough for all three of them
> so that's not an issue. I'm just wondering if the two species would get
> along.
>
Short answer: No
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Debbie, Dusty (CAG) and Casperella (U2)
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| Joanne |
"Debbie Krug" <dkrug@tband.net> wrote in message
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> Short answer: No
>
> --
> Debbie, Dusty (CAG) and Casperella (U2)
I totally agree. The Quaker could easily kill the budgie.
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Joanne
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| Mark Klebanoff |
And Quakers are sufficiently territorial about their cages that it
would not only be able, but also likely to kill the budgies
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 03:49:30 UTC, "Joanne" <Joanne@jobirdnest.com>
wrote:
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> "Debbie Krug" <dkrug@tband.net> wrote in message
> news:gKednXqFn6PKGyPdRVn-ug@casscity.net...
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> > Short answer: No
> >
> > --
> > Debbie, Dusty (CAG) and Casperella (U2)
>
> I totally agree. The Quaker could easily kill the budgie.
>
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| Cindy Eddy |
"Mark Klebanoff" <maxikins@spamless.os2bbs.com> wrote in message
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> And Quakers are sufficiently territorial about their cages that it
> would not only be able, but also likely to kill the budgies
>
> On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 03:49:30 UTC, "Joanne" <Joanne@jobirdnest.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Debbie Krug" <dkrug@tband.net> wrote in message
> > news:gKednXqFn6PKGyPdRVn-ug@casscity.net...
> >
> > > Short answer: No
> > >
> > > --
> > > Debbie, Dusty (CAG) and Casperella (U2)
> >
> > I totally agree. The Quaker could easily kill the budgie.
> >
>
>
> --
>
Thanks you guys. I didn't realize that quakers were that territorial. It's
not a problem though because I already have another large cage. I just
thought maybe he wouldn't be as lonely when I'm not home if he was with
them. I'll just put his cage where he can see them.
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| AFLane |
Put the cages near each other, yet not so close that the quaker could jump
onto (or in) the budgies' cage... Then all three of them can see and talk to
each other. Also, I leave a radio on in the living room for my birds (my
amazon prefers classical music -- so that's what they listen to). Nice side
effect, they can sing with the radio. :)
Have fun with the Quaker. Tons of personality in a little package. They
can be great talkers and extremely (!!!) affectionate. My quaker likes to
scold and yell at the squirrels and deer in the back yard. Sooooooo funny!
Little 110 gm bird yelling at a 150 lb deer. You should hear what he says
to the red tailed hawks. Whenever one bounces off the back window, the
quaker laughs at them, as if to say "Ha Ha! Stupid bird!"
Now back to seriousness. There's a great book about Quakers, that explains
their quirky territorialisms and sometimes odd behaviors. It's called "A
Guide to the Quaker Parrot" by Mattie Sue Athan. Highly recommend it. :)
Amy
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| good golly miss Molly |
"Cindy Eddy" <csmilee22@charter.net> wrote in message
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> >
> Thanks you guys. I didn't realize that quakers were that territorial. It's
> not a problem though because I already have another large cage. I just
> thought maybe he wouldn't be as lonely when I'm not home if he was with
> them. I'll just put his cage where he can see them.
>
>
So what about when you let them out in the evening? Your quaker wil
amputate the toes of any budgie daft enough to sit on its cage, and if you
let the quaker out it will go over to the budgie cage and terrorise them. It
seems you are determined to get a quaker whatever anyone says regardless of
whether it would be the best for you, the quaker, your neighbours and the
budgies. I forsee this being a rehoming waiting to happen :0(
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| AFLane |
Don't you ever have anything constructive to say??? I've read your
dictator-like postings over several newsgroups. You brow-beat people,
harrass and insult them. Heaven forbit that someone ask a REAL question
before you pipe in with your slams and flames. People ASK QUESTIONS TO GET
ANSWERS/INFORMATION, not be flamed by a pompous, self-righteous twit.
Molly, keep your opinions to yourself... you're the only one that values
those opinions. BTW, welcome to my kill-file! I've had it with you!
Amy
"good golly miss Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> "Cindy Eddy" <csmilee22@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:10bufaofkatl044@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
> > Thanks you guys. I didn't realize that quakers were that territorial.
It's
> > not a problem though because I already have another large cage. I just
> > thought maybe he wouldn't be as lonely when I'm not home if he was with
> > them. I'll just put his cage where he can see them.
> >
> >
> So what about when you let them out in the evening? Your quaker wil
> amputate the toes of any budgie daft enough to sit on its cage, and if you
> let the quaker out it will go over to the budgie cage and terrorise them.
It
> seems you are determined to get a quaker whatever anyone says regardless
of
> whether it would be the best for you, the quaker, your neighbours and the
> budgies. I forsee this being a rehoming waiting to happen :0(
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>
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| Cindy Eddy |
"AFLane" <aflane@att.net> wrote in message
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> Put the cages near each other, yet not so close that the quaker could jump
> onto (or in) the budgies' cage... Then all three of them can see and talk
to
> each other. Also, I leave a radio on in the living room for my birds (my
> amazon prefers classical music -- so that's what they listen to). Nice
side
> effect, they can sing with the radio. :)
>
> Have fun with the Quaker. Tons of personality in a little package. They
> can be great talkers and extremely (!!!) affectionate. My quaker likes to
> scold and yell at the squirrels and deer in the back yard. Sooooooo
funny!
> Little 110 gm bird yelling at a 150 lb deer. You should hear what he says
> to the red tailed hawks. Whenever one bounces off the back window, the
> quaker laughs at them, as if to say "Ha Ha! Stupid bird!"
>
> Now back to seriousness. There's a great book about Quakers, that
explains
> their quirky territorialisms and sometimes odd behaviors. It's called "A
> Guide to the Quaker Parrot" by Mattie Sue Athan. Highly recommend it. :)
>
> Amy
>
>
Thanks a bunch! I'll go to books-a-million tomorrow and see if they have
that book. If not I'll try e-bay & other places.
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| James |
"good golly miss Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> "Cindy Eddy" <csmilee22@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:10bufaofkatl044@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
> > Thanks you guys. I didn't realize that quakers were that territorial.
It's
> > not a problem though because I already have another large cage. I just
> > thought maybe he wouldn't be as lonely when I'm not home if he was with
> > them. I'll just put his cage where he can see them.
> >
> >
> So what about when you let them out in the evening? Your quaker wil
> amputate the toes of any budgie daft enough to sit on its cage, and if you
> let the quaker out it will go over to the budgie cage and terrorise them.
It
> seems you are determined to get a quaker whatever anyone says regardless
of
> whether it would be the best for you, the quaker, your neighbours and the
> budgies. I forsee this being a rehoming waiting to happen :0(
>
>
You seem to be forgetting something (as usual). Over here we like to hack
off our birds flight feathers.
A logical conclusion that one may reach based on your comment is that none
of your numerous fully flighted house birds is ever allowed out of the cage
for fear of hostility between birds because their safety is so important.
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James
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| good golly miss Molly |
"James" <yes, I am me> wrote in message
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> A logical conclusion that one may reach based on your comment is that none
> of your numerous fully flighted house birds is ever allowed out of the
cage
> for fear of hostility between birds because their safety is so important.
>
Silly boy Jynxie. I have several times put a link to pictures of my birds
flying free in my living room. So that's another of your nutty theories gone
down the plughole innit?
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| Debbie Krug |
"good golly miss Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> "James" <yes, I am me> wrote in message
> news:7f387e709857a32fca415e762ba0f160@news.teranews.com...
> > A logical conclusion that one may reach based on your comment is that
none
> > of your numerous fully flighted house birds is ever allowed out of the
> cage
> > for fear of hostility between birds because their safety is so
important.
> >
> Silly boy Jynxie. I have several times put a link to pictures of my birds
> flying free in my living room. So that's another of your nutty theories
gone
> down the plughole innit?
>
Okay, stupid question. Why don't your birds bite each others toes? Is it
only the combination of budgies and quakers?
Debbie
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| Toucanldy |
>From: "Debbie Krug" dkrug@tband.net
>Okay, stupid question. Why don't your birds bite each others toes? Is it
>only the combination of budgies and quakers?
I can't answer for OM, but friends of mine, who have macaws, double wire their
cages, to prevent toes from getting bitten.
Regards
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| Debbie Krug |
"Toucanldy" <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "Debbie Krug" dkrug@tband.net
>
> >Okay, stupid question. Why don't your birds bite each others toes? Is it
> >only the combination of budgies and quakers?
>
> I can't answer for OM, but friends of mine, who have macaws, double wire
their
> cages, to prevent toes from getting bitten.
>
> Regards
That would work. My birds aren't best buddies and my Grey doesn't like it
if the U2 lands on her cage or playstand, but if the Grey starts to approach
the U2, the U2 leaves. This hasn't happened often, but occasionally one will
fly off and land on the others cage. I understand that Quakers are pretty
territorial, but it seems it could work. People have cats and birds and make
it work.
Debbie
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| good golly miss Molly |
"Debbie Krug" <dkrug@tband.net> wrote in message
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>> Okay, stupid question. Why don't your birds bite each others toes? Is it
> only the combination of budgies and quakers?
Dunno why. I let them all out together so nobody is sitting in a cage
waiting for another to land on it. I find that toe biting occurs when birds
are in cages and another lands on the cage. Also mine are fully flighted so
if someone is stroppy the other can simply fly away to another part of the
room.
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| Alex Clayton |
"Debbie Krug" <dkrug@tband.net> wrote in message
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> "Toucanldy" <toucanldy@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040604172736.19877.00000456@mb-m02.aol.com...
> >
> > >From: "Debbie Krug" dkrug@tband.net
> >
> > >Okay, stupid question. Why don't your birds bite each others toes? Is
it
> > >only the combination of budgies and quakers?
> >
> > I can't answer for OM, but friends of mine, who have macaws, double wire
> their
> > cages, to prevent toes from getting bitten.
> >
> > Regards
> That would work. My birds aren't best buddies and my Grey doesn't like it
> if the U2 lands on her cage or playstand, but if the Grey starts to
approach
> the U2, the U2 leaves. This hasn't happened often, but occasionally one
will
> fly off and land on the others cage. I understand that Quakers are pretty
> territorial, but it seems it could work. People have cats and birds and
make
> it work.
> Debbie
>
>
My three birds DO NOT like each other at all. The Tiel has occasionally
landed on the Macaws cage, but he has enough sense to leave as soon as the
Macaw goes for him. The BCC has never, at least not when I was here landed
on the Macaws cage, I think he knows better. The BCC and Tiel live together,
but it only works because the cage is just a frame to hold the other parts
of their "living arrangement", so they can stay apart. I would never cage
them together as I am sure the BCC would kill the Tiel. If the BCC was
caged, I would not allow the Tiel loose either as I would be worried about
the Tiel landing on his cage and getting a toe caught. the BCC can move a
lot faster than the B&G. When the Tiel lands on the B&G cage the Macaw has
to try to climb up to the top of the cage to get him, he has plenty of time
to see it coming.
A lot of you I'm sure remember Kellie, the lady in TX. She had a Quaker
named "Shake". She said he bit the toe off one of her budgies one time when
she made the mistake of letting the Budgie out for a while with the Quaker
in his cage. That is where the real problem comes in, how fast can the
larger bird get to the feet of the smaller bird if it lands on the wrong
cage.
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If at first you don't succeed blame someone else and seek counseling.
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| James |
"good golly miss Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> "James" <yes, I am me> wrote in message
> news:7f387e709857a32fca415e762ba0f160@news.teranews.com...
> > A logical conclusion that one may reach based on your comment is that
none
> > of your numerous fully flighted house birds is ever allowed out of the
> cage
> > for fear of hostility between birds because their safety is so
important.
> >
> Silly boy Jynxie. I have several times put a link to pictures of my birds
> flying free in my living room. So that's another of your nutty theories
gone
> down the plughole innit?
>
>
I didn't say it was a fact. I stated that it's a conclusion that someone
could come to. The point wasn't that you don't allow your birds out, the
point was that you do let your birds out to fly around and that you are
simply being a hypocrit. So it's do as I say, not as I do. Why is that
Pammy? Why are you so adamant that someone not allow a bird (that they
don't even yet have) to even live in the same room as the birds she already
has when you have so many birds without any problems (supposedly)? Why is
that?
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James
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| James |
"Debbie Krug" <dkrug@tband.net> wrote in message
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> >
> Okay, stupid question. Why don't your birds bite each others toes? Is it
> only the combination of budgies and quakers?
> Debbie
>
>
Because she is better than everyone else. It's true. If you don't believe
me ask her for yourself and she'll tell you all about it.
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James
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| good golly miss Molly |
"James" <yes, I am me> wrote in message
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> I didn't say it was a fact. I stated that it's a conclusion that someone
> could come to.
Well *that* would not stand up in a court of law.
>The point wasn't that you don't allow your birds out, the
> point was that you do let your birds out to fly around and that you are
> simply being a hypocrit. So it's do as I say, not as I do.
How do you figure that out? I let my birds out to fly around, *and* I say
that others should let their birds out of their cages. I think you need to
look in a dictionary to see what 'hypocrite' means.
>Why is that
> Pammy? Why are you so adamant that someone not allow a bird (that they
> don't even yet have) to even live in the same room as the birds she
>already
Have you stopped taking your medication? Read the OP again. She intended to
put them together in a cage. I pointed out some of the character of quakers,
and advised her not to and not to allow them access to each other even out
of the cage. Sound warnings I think for a novice.
> has when you have so many birds without any problems (supposedly)? Why is
> that?
Because I am not a novice, I have a fair idea of the characteristics of
different species and what will mix with what generally speaking.
Would you rather warnings were given to someone who didn't know, or that
one should assume everything *might* be ok in this case and risk the chance
of a bird being hurt and an owner distressed and feeling guilty?
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| hatehuck |
"Debbie Krug" <dkrug@tband.net> wrote in message
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> "good golly miss Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:hR5wc.185$Ol6.35@newsfe2-win...
> >
> > "James" <yes, I am me> wrote in message
> > news:7f387e709857a32fca415e762ba0f160@news.teranews.com...
> > > A logical conclusion that one may reach based on your comment is that
> none
> > > of your numerous fully flighted house birds is ever allowed out of the
> > cage
> > > for fear of hostility between birds because their safety is so
> important.
> > >
> > Silly boy Jynxie. I have several times put a link to pictures of my
birds
> > flying free in my living room. So that's another of your nutty theories
> gone
> > down the plughole innit?
> >
> Okay, stupid question. Why don't your birds bite each others toes? Is it
> only the combination of budgies and quakers?
> Debbie
>
> I had a colony of black masked lovebirds and had to split them into pairs
because of bitten toes.
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| good golly miss Molly |
"James" <yes, I am me> wrote in message
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> But the OP merely wants to house a quaker in the same room that >already
has
> two budgies
<copied and pasted>
"My question is,
can I house the quaker with the budgies or should I get him a seperate cage"
(as the majority of us with more than one species does) and you
> are chastizing her for even thinking of the idea while you allow free
>flight
> and even house different species in the same cage.
The question wasn't about different species generally, but quakers and
budgies. I do not and never would house quakers with any other species.
Gosh Jynx, are you having a 'blonde' moment?
>Yes you are a hypocrite,
> you believe (falsely) that you are this great and wonderful thing and do
> whatever you can to prevent others from infringing on your false status.
What exactly *is* a false status?
> > >Why is that
> > > Pammy? Why are you so adamant that someone not allow a bird (that
they
> > > don't even yet have) to even live in the same room as the birds she
> > >already
>
> > Have you stopped taking your medication? Read the OP again. She intended
> to
> > put them together in a cage. I pointed out some of the character of
> quakers,
> > and advised her not to and not to allow them access to each other even
out
> > of the cage. Sound warnings I think for a novice.
> >
>
> Yes, they're sound warnings but if you can follow a thread you'll see
that
> she asked and she learned before you even joined the discussion.
Seems like *you* are one who cannot follow a thread.
>But none
> of this has anything to do with the fact that you can allow your birds >to
> wander freely, but say this person is just asking for trouble for even
> wanting the two species housed in the same room.
Go back to the OP.
> > > has when you have so many birds without any problems (supposedly)?
Why
> is
> > > that?
>
> > Because I am not a novice, I have a fair idea of the characteristics of
> > different species and what will mix with what generally speaking.
> > Would you rather warnings were given to someone who didn't know, or
that
> > one should assume everything *might* be ok in this case and risk the
> chance
> > of a bird being hurt and an owner distressed and feeling guilty?
> >
> >
>
> Yes you have a great deal of experience(years and years and years and
> years...), but how did you get that experience? You had to start
somewhere
> and I'm quite sure that you were not entirely mistake free along the way.
I was more or less mistake free simply because I read and read, found out
about a species then watched. It is called 'learning'.
> There is only one way to gain practical experience. And she has shown
> enough intelligence to come here to ask about something she doesn't know
and
> then to accept the advice. There is absolutely no evident reason for the
OP
> to not add a quaker to her flock.
But *not|* to keep them in the same cage as was in the OP, and to be aware
of the quaker's territorial instincts and possible aggressiveness even when
the 2 species are loose together in the same room.
Bloody hell Jynx, you could start a fight in an empty room.
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| waitingforgodot@samuel.beckett |
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:30:14 +0100, "good golly miss Molly"
<oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote:
><(((*> Bloody hell Jynx, you could start a fight in an empty room.
It's his dual personality. Half budgie, half Quaker. If he isn't
careful, he's going to bite his own toes off.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| Cindy Eddy |
"Cindy Eddy" <csmilee22@charter.net> wrote in message
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> I currently have two budgies. One english and one american. There is a
woman
> near me that is wanting to get rid of a 4 month old quaker. My question
is,
> can I house the quaker with the budgies or should I get him a seperate
cage.
> The cage that my budgies are in is plenty big enough for all three of them
> so that's not an issue. I'm just wondering if the two species would get
> along.
>
>
I just thought I would let you all know that I did get the quaker and he is
doing famously. He is in his very own cage and seems to love it here in my
home and doesn't seem at all interested in the budgies. They are both fully
flighted and have not yet even attempted to land on his cage but I am sure
if they did, they would have more than enough time to move if need be. The
quaker however has had his wings clipped to the point that he can't even
come more than a foot of the floor, which I think is a little excessive, but
he couldn't get to their cage even if he did want to. Thanks for all of your
very colorful insights into this matter. LOL
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| Joanne |
"Cindy Eddy" <csmilee22@charter.net> wrote in message
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> I just thought I would let you all know that I did get the quaker and he
is
> doing famously. He is in his very own cage and seems to love it here in my
> home and doesn't seem at all interested in the budgies. They are both
fully
> flighted and have not yet even attempted to land on his cage but I am sure
> if they did, they would have more than enough time to move if need be. The
> quaker however has had his wings clipped to the point that he can't even
> come more than a foot of the floor, which I think is a little excessive,
but
> he couldn't get to their cage even if he did want to. Thanks for all of
your
> very colorful insights into this matter. LOL
I wish you continued L-ing O L.
As for this group being colorful, consider it based in passion.
As to your comments, you really have missed some very important elements of
the conversation which took place under this thread. But, I'm not going to
reiterate. I recommend you read it again now that you have purchased the
Quaker.
Your budgies are not forever safe just because you think they will have
enough escape time if attacked after landing on the Quaker cage.
Your Quaker will not always be disinterested in the budgies, particularly if
it is young now and wants to be the boss later, which is typical of Quakers.
Your Quaker will not always be slowed by an extreme wing clip. You may not
even notice when it is time for a trim.
If there is an "accident" in the future, posting here will guarantee you a
bucket of colorful conversation.
Damn, I think I just reiterated.
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Sincerely,
Joanne
If it's right for you, then it's right, . . . . . for you!!!
Play - http://www.jobird.com
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| Toucanldy |
>From: "Cindy Eddy" csmilee22@charter.net
>I just thought I would let you all know that I did get the quaker and he is
>doing famously. He is in his very own cage and seems to love it here in my
>home and doesn't seem at all interested in the budgies. They are both fully
>flighted and have not yet even attempted to land on his cage but I am sure
>if they did, they would have more than enough time to move if need be.
Don't count on it. It's best to err on the side of caution, and at least put a
piece of plexiglass on top of the cage. This will not keep them from hanging on
the sides, though. Just because they would have enough time to move, does not
mean that they actually would. They are curious, and don't realize the danger,
until too late. Like with a child, you have to think ahead. Prevention is the
best cure.
Good luck.
Regards
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Toucanldy wrote:
>>From: "Cindy Eddy" csmilee22@charter.net
>
>
>>I just thought I would let you all know that I did get the quaker and he is
>>doing famously. He is in his very own cage and seems to love it here in my
>>home and doesn't seem at all interested in the budgies. They are both fully
>>flighted and have not yet even attempted to land on his cage but I am sure
>>if they did, they would have more than enough time to move if need be.
>
>
> Don't count on it. It's best to err on the side of caution, and at least put a
> piece of plexiglass on top of the cage. This will not keep them from hanging on
> the sides, though. Just because they would have enough time to move, does not
> mean that they actually would. They are curious, and don't realize the danger,
> until too late. Like with a child, you have to think ahead. Prevention is the
> best cure.
> Good luck.
>
This makes perfect sense. In my friend's family room,
she has a cockatoo along with a cage of budgies and a
separately caged cockatiel. The small birds have their
time out in an upstairs room. When the cockatoo is out,
she just drops a blanket over the small bird's cage. Of
course, with a cockatoo, she is always right nearby as well.
The budgies may be safe - but the furniture???? Anyway,
just be forewarned and use common sense.
Janet Levy
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| Cindy Eddy |
"gamin" <gamin@nospam.corecomm.net> wrote in message
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>
> Toucanldy wrote:
> >>From: "Cindy Eddy" csmilee22@charter.net
> >
> >
> >>I just thought I would let you all know that I did get the quaker and he
is
> >>doing famously. He is in his very own cage and seems to love it here in
my
> >>home and doesn't seem at all interested in the budgies. They are both
fully
> >>flighted and have not yet even attempted to land on his cage but I am
sure
> >>if they did, they would have more than enough time to move if need be.
> >
> >
> > Don't count on it. It's best to err on the side of caution, and at least
put a
> > piece of plexiglass on top of the cage. This will not keep them from
hanging on
> > the sides, though. Just because they would have enough time to move,
does not
> > mean that they actually would. They are curious, and don't realize the
danger,
> > until too late. Like with a child, you have to think ahead. Prevention
is the
> > best cure.
> > Good luck.
> >
>
> This makes perfect sense. In my friend's family room,
> she has a cockatoo along with a cage of budgies and a
> separately caged cockatiel. The small birds have their
> time out in an upstairs room. When the cockatoo is out,
> she just drops a blanket over the small bird's cage. Of
> course, with a cockatoo, she is always right nearby as well.
> The budgies may be safe - but the furniture???? Anyway,
> just be forewarned and use common sense.
>
> Janet Levy
>
I had already decided that the Quaker cage would be put in a seperate room
when the budgies are out and likewise for the budgies when the quaker is
out. I thought about the fact that he may be more agressive towards them as
he gets older so that's when I decided to take the extra cautionary step of
putting them in seperate rooms when one or the other is out. Thanks though.
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| Alex Clayton |
"Cindy Eddy" <csmilee22@charter.net> wrote in message
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> I had already decided that the Quaker cage would be put in a seperate room
> when the budgies are out and likewise for the budgies when the quaker is
> out. I thought about the fact that he may be more agressive towards them
as
> he gets older so that's when I decided to take the extra cautionary step
of
> putting them in seperate rooms when one or the other is out. Thanks
though.
>
>
Sounds like a wise choice. Quakers do make a great pet, but the size
difference would leave a Budgie loosing. With tame birds it becomes not just
a territorial thing, but jealousy. The Quaker will become bonded with you
and will very likely not want to share "you". Many of them learn to talk
pretty good, and they live a long time so you should have many years of
companionship, enjoy!!!!
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If at first you don't succeed blame someone else and seek counseling.
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| James |
"good golly miss Molly's gaping **** " <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> oozed
and dripped in message news:9gDwc.39$xo1.3@newsfe3-win.server.ntli.net...
> <snipped>
You are a hypocrite and you will fight to the death to remain so.
fini
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| Just Molly |
"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Cindy Eddy" <csmilee22@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:10c7ricp0jmco8f@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > I had already decided that the Quaker cage would be put in a seperate
room
> > when the budgies are out and likewise for the budgies when the quaker is
> > out. I thought about the fact that he may be more agressive towards them
> as
> > he gets older so that's when I decided to take the extra cautionary step
> of
> > putting them in seperate rooms when one or the other is out. Thanks
> though.
> >
> >
>
> Sounds like a wise choice. Quakers do make a great pet, but the size
> difference would leave a Budgie loosing. With tame birds it becomes not
just
> a territorial thing, but jealousy. The Quaker will become bonded with you
> and will very likely not want to share "you". Many of them learn to talk
> pretty good, and they live a long time so you should have many years of
> companionship, enjoy!!!!
Not only good talkers. I am asthmatic and have sometimes got an irritating
cough. The 2 quakers I reared copy this cough, not only when they hear me
coughing in the aviary block, but if I say "oh deary me, have you gotta bad
cough then?" hehe
A chorus of "cough cough cough" rings out lol.
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| Alex Clayton |
"Just Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in message
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>
> Not only good talkers. I am asthmatic and have sometimes got an
irritating
> cough. The 2 quakers I reared copy this cough, not only when they hear me
> coughing in the aviary block, but if I say "oh deary me, have you gotta
bad
> cough then?" hehe
> A chorus of "cough cough cough" rings out lol.
>
>
LOL, Charlie started doing this a while back. The O/H has allergies, and
during spring has a mild cough a lot, don't even notice it any more. A while
back one day I was sitting here on the PC, and Charlie started making a
coughing noise up on his cage. Scared the crap out of me. I jumped up and
was watching him, which just got him showing off. I started to think I was
loosing it, he looks fine. As soon as I sat back down and was watching but
pretending not to, he did it a couple more times, then I realized he was
imitating something he had heard. Had a big laugh over it. I was all ready
to call the Vet and see if she could see him on an emergency visit. LOL.
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| Ray Smith |
"good golly miss Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in message news:<VaIvc.576$mc7.377@newsfe6-win>...
> "Cindy Eddy" <csmilee22@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:10bufaofkatl044@corp.supernews.com...
Hi Miss Molly (and everyone),
I have noticed in the past (and with this thread) that there is some
tension in this group!!
After a number of similiar situations myself (in other groups) I hope
I can help with some advice :)
This post I have quoted is very negative.
I'm sorry to say Miss Molly that it's tone is all wrong.
The op has asked for advice. An excellent idea to ask for advice at
all since so many people don't. The op has then responded to a number
of posts and is clearly going through the process of evaluation, not
only of the purchase but the housing and "out of cage" requirements.
At this point in the thread everything is quite positive and the
intial idea (or question) of "can they be housed together" has been
rejected and other topics such as "out of cage" time are being
discussed.
You say:
> So what about when you let them out in the evening? Your quaker wil
> amputate the toes of any budgie daft enough to sit on its cage, and if you
> let the quaker out it will go over to the budgie cage and terrorise them.
That's fair enough ... your next advice should be how to prevent this.
but you follow up with:
> It
> seems you are determined to get a quaker whatever anyone says regardless of
> whether it would be the best for you, the quaker, your neighbours and the
> budgies. I forsee this being a rehoming waiting to happen :0(
What you are saying is that "obviously" this person SHOULD NOT GET THE
QUAKER. The birds will "obviosuly" be uncontrollable and disaster is
the only outcome.
Is this what you mean? I can't see any other explanation.
If your more positive with your advice everyone will benefit.
For example .. the "rehoming comment".
Why not say,
"quakers can make wonderful pet birds, but just make sure you know
what you're getting yourself into. These birds can bond very
strongely to their owners and if your not 100% committed to making
sure it all works out the little quaker could go through a very
difficult rehoming experience."
Just to prove my point I'll take my own medicine ... :)
I understand your point, and I understand the reason why you posted
your comments. It's because you have passion for your birds (and
birds in general) and are heart broken to see when people treat birds
badly or buy a bird implosivley and then don't have the long
commitment to look after their feathered friend. I think all
passionate bird people feel the same way.
The whole point of my email is:
"don't assume that other people don't have your passion or
commitment".
By all means make sure people are aware of the dangers, but don't
assume the worst.
Now that I'm going ... I hope everyone realises it's "impossible" to
ensure accidents "never" occur. Even in nature accidents occur. I
also think that everyone who has kept birds for any number of years
has done stupid things (unkowningly).
But does that mean young or inexperienced people shouldn't buy birds?
If this is the case how do people learn?
Accidents will happen, birds will be injuired and even die because of
inexperience. As long as everyone is commited and tries their best
then good on them. If people do by a bird and for whatever reason
fail to be a good owner then they should obviosuly not buy another
bird unless they are commited to improve.
Thats what's great about groups like this. If someone has a question
they can ask and get the combined experience of many people. As long
as we "hopefully" all stay positive groups like this can be a great
asset.
Regards,
Ray Smith
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| Just Molly |
"Ray Smith" <ray@rays-web.com> wrote in message
news:5654fff9.0406101602.63e02e2e@posting.google.com...
> "good golly miss Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in message
news:<VaIvc.576$mc7.377@newsfe6-win>...
> > "Cindy Eddy" <csmilee22@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:10bufaofkatl044@corp.supernews.com...
>
> Hi Miss Molly (and everyone),
>
> I have noticed in the past (and with this thread) that there is some
> tension in this group!!
>
> After a number of similiar situations myself (in other groups) I hope
> I can help with some advice :)
<snipped>
> Regards,
>
With all due respect,.............bog off.:0)
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| Ray Smith |
"Just Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in message news:<R4gyc.44$HR3.27@newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net>...
> "Ray Smith" <ray@rays-web.com> wrote in message
> news:5654fff9.0406101602.63e02e2e@posting.google.com...
> > "good golly miss Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:<VaIvc.576$mc7.377@newsfe6-win>...
> > > "Cindy Eddy" <csmilee22@charter.net> wrote in message
> > > news:10bufaofkatl044@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> With all due respect,.............bog off.:0)
Hi Miss Molly,
With all due respect ...
do you have any objections to me pointing other people to this
response in the future regarding the value of your advice and
credibility?
Regards,
Ray Smith
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| Marco |
On 11 Jun 2004 15:23:14 -0700, Ray Smith <ray@rays-web.com> wrote:
> "Just Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:<R4gyc.44$HR3.27@newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net>...
>> "Ray Smith" <ray@rays-web.com> wrote in message
>> news:5654fff9.0406101602.63e02e2e@posting.google.com...
>> > "good golly miss Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in
>> message
>> news:<VaIvc.576$mc7.377@newsfe6-win>...
>> > > "Cindy Eddy" <csmilee22@charter.net> wrote in message
>> > > news:10bufaofkatl044@corp.supernews.com...
>> >
>
>> With all due respect,.............bog off.:0)
>
> Hi Miss Molly,
>
> With all due respect ...
> do you have any objections to me pointing other people to this
> response in the future regarding the value of your advice and
> credibility?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ray Smith
Ray,
A little word of advice... if you are about to embark on a crusade to
"teach" oldmolly "good manners and civility", I suggest you find another
hobby, 'cuz you're wasting your time.
She does have tons of info to share, but does she comes across sometimes
as rude and crude, hell yes, but your choices are either a) accept it as a
fact of net-life, b) killfile her or c) keep on bitching about her and end
up looking like a wuzz.
And to OM, the above was in to way a criticism to you... you know I like
you most of the time... plus, I have a MACAW and you don't! Neener Neener!
:)
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~=-Marco-=~
http://photos.yahoo.com/igotmbd
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| Just Molly |
"Marco" <myemail@myisp.com> wrote in message
news:opr9lsntgckbhn9y@newsgroups.bellsouth.net...
> On 11 Jun 2004 15:23:14 -0700, Ray Smith <ray@rays-web.com> wrote:
>
> > "Just Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in message
> > news:<R4gyc.44$HR3.27@newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net>...
> >> "Ray Smith" <ray@rays-web.com> wrote in message
> >> news:5654fff9.0406101602.63e02e2e@posting.google.com...
> >> > "good golly miss Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in
> >> message
> >> news:<VaIvc.576$mc7.377@newsfe6-win>...
> >> > > "Cindy Eddy" <csmilee22@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> > > news:10bufaofkatl044@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >
> >
> >> With all due respect,.............bog off.:0)
> >
> > Hi Miss Molly,
> >
> > With all due respect ...
> > do you have any objections to me pointing other people to this
> > response in the future regarding the value of your advice and
> > credibility?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ray Smith
>
> Ray,
> A little word of advice... if you are about to embark on a crusade to
> "teach" oldmolly "good manners and civility", I suggest you find another
> hobby, 'cuz you're wasting your time.
> She does have tons of info to share, but does she comes across sometimes
> as rude and crude, hell yes, but your choices are either a) accept it as a
> fact of net-life, b) killfile her or c) keep on bitching about her and end
> up looking like a wuzz.
>
> And to OM, the above was in to way a criticism to you... you know I like
> you most of the time... plus, I have a MACAW and you don't! Neener Neener!
> :)
>
Noooooooo! You mentioned the 'M' word <bashes head on table and foams at
the mouth>
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