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Prater
Glacie has learned a new trick. She has learned how to take the nuts off the screws and take the doors off her cage. She has four food dish doors and a little side door. One by one she's removing the doors. So far she hasn't bothered the big front door. She even understands the process -- lefty loosy, righty tighty. She doesn't even bother trying to turn them to the right now. She knows that's not how they work.

So, my question is this--do any of you have the same problem and if so, how did you handle it? Is this a general problem with these smart birds or is Glacie an exception?

Toni

PS: I also have a louvered closet door that needs repair (hehe). Any suggestions here, as well? Toothpicks for sale.
pianoharp

"Prater" <lprater2@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Glacie has learned a new trick. She has learned how to take the nuts off
the screws and take the doors off her cage. She has four food dish doors
and a little side door. One by one she's removing the doors. So far she
hasn't bothered the big front door. She even understands the process --
lefty loosy, righty tighty. She doesn't even bother trying to turn them to
the right now. She knows that's not how they work.

So, my question is this--do any of you have the same problem and if so, how
did you handle it? Is this a general problem with these smart birds or is
Glacie an exception?

Toni

PS: I also have a louvered closet door that needs repair (hehe). Any
suggestions here, as well? Toothpicks for sale.

I don't own a large parrot, but I wonder if they can make erecter set type
toys for them, such as what kids get. I don't mean the ones with all the
tiny parts: the big plastic kind. Hey, if it works for a two-year-old
(safety), maybe you could let your parrot have one of those.


John Hines
"Prater" <lprater2@worldnet.att.net> wrote:


>So, my question is this--do any of you have the same problem and if so, how did you handle it?


A wrench, in that they can't generate that much force, if the nut is
tight, they can't undo it.
Cary Powell
Sydney, my Mollucan is very very construction (or destruction) oriented
also. She got so well at opening her cage latches that we put one of those
small 3 roller combination locks on her cage. One like you see on suitcases
or briefcases. Within 2 days she figured out the process of how it was
opened. SHe would turn her head sideways and just watch every move we made
in opening that cage. I caught her on day 3 using beak and toes working at
that lock. By day four she had the combination down . I could lock it and
within 3 minutes she would be out on top of the cage cackling and bouncing
up and down quite pleased with herself. We finally had to wire her cage shut
near the bottom where she couldnt reach out to work on it. Amazing how
intelligent they can be. Shoot, there were some days that I had trouble
opening that stupid lock!
Cary Powell
"John Hines" <jbhines@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> "Prater" <lprater2@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>
> >So, my question is this--do any of you have the same problem and if so,

how did you handle it?
>
> A wrench, in that they can't generate that much force, if the nut is
> tight, they can't undo it.



Debbie Krug

"Prater" <lprater2@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Glacie has learned a new trick. She has learned how to take the nuts off
the screws and take the doors off her cage. She has four food dish doors
and a little side door. One by one she's removing the doors. So far she
hasn't bothered the big front door. She even understands the process --
lefty loosy, righty tighty. She doesn't even bother trying to turn them to
the right now. She knows that's not how they work.

So, my question is this--do any of you have the same problem and if so, how
did you handle it? Is this a general problem with these smart birds or is
Glacie an exception?

Toni

PS: I also have a louvered closet door that needs repair (hehe). Any
suggestions here, as well? Toothpicks for sale.

--


My CAG enjoyed removing the screws holding her playstand together. My
husband said he used something called " lock tite" to make it so she
couldn't undo them. Whatever it is it has worked.

--
Debbie, Dusty (CAG) and Casperella (U2)



good golly miss Molly

"Prater" <lprater2@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Glacie has learned a new trick. She has learned how to take the nuts off
the screws and take the doors off her cage. She has four food dish doors
and a little side door. One by one she's removing the doors. So far she
hasn't bothered the big front door. She even understands the process --
lefty loosy, righty tighty. She doesn't even bother trying to turn them to
the right now. She knows that's not how they work.

So, my question is this--do any of you have the same problem and if so, how
did you handle it? Is this a general problem with these smart birds or is
Glacie an exception?

Cockatoos are notorious screw undoers.Having screws holding a cockatoo's
cage together is a bad idea.


James

"Cary Powell" <tristate96@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Shoot, there were some days that I had trouble
> opening that stupid lock!



Gee what a surprise. Never would have guessed that at all.


--
James


Alex Clayton
"John Hines" <jbhines@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> "Prater" <lprater2@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>
> >So, my question is this--do any of you have the same problem and if so,

how did you handle it?
>
> A wrench, in that they can't generate that much force, if the nut is
> tight, they can't undo it.


With my B&G he was always opening his food and water doors. The bowls come
out with the door. He would then of course make a mess on the floor. Then
when that was not enough "fun" he figured out he could get the entire door
and bowl off and drop the works on the floor, water and food all over. They
have a swivel triangle piece of metal the swings out of the way to open
them. I started keeping a wrench by the cage, and would tighten the bolt
with it. That worked for a short time. He soon found all he had to do was
work on it for a while and he could loosen the bolt no matter how tight I
got it with the wrench. They have a hell of a lot of torque in that beak <G>
As to the Too's cage, being assembled with bolts sounds like a poor
choice. You could try some "Locktite" on them and it "may" stop the problem,
but if the bird spends enough time working at them, it may still un do them.
Pad locks where possible make a good defense.
--
If at first you don't succeed blame someone else and seek counseling.


good golly miss Molly

"Prater" <lprater2@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
> That is too funny! I can just see her learning her 1, 2, 3's.
>

My friend Charlie has a molluccan. He counts, "one, two,
free,four,five,six.....*seven*" and then laughs like a maniac.


Chuck Chopp
Prater wrote:

>
> So, my question is this--do any of you have the same problem and if so,
> how did you handle it? Is this a general problem with these smart birds
> or is Glacie an exception?


My B&G macaw, Fruit Loop, has no problems working quick links & wing nuts.
She regularly disassembles all hanging toys in her cage and even goes as far
as going outside the cage to undo the wing nuts that hold the brackets for
her food bowls. Of course, she's managed to lift those big 40 oz food bowls
out of the brackets and dump them on the bottom of the cage before she sends
the bowl holders crashing down, too.

I don't think that Glacie is unusual in that respect. The larger parrots
for the most part appear to be dangerously smart w/respect to problem
solving intelligence. So much so that if they get bored, they will find new
things to challenge themselves.

The most bizarre thing I've seen so far was the day I left the house with
the bird in the cage and the cat sleeping on the window sill and came home
to find the bird perched on the window sill and the cat locked in the bird
cage. Nobody else had access to the house and the kids were out with me all
day, so I can only assume that Fruit Loop opened the cage, lured the cat in
there and then locked the door again all on her own. One off the two looked
very smug, and the other looked really disgusted; do you want to guess which
one was wearing which look?


--
Chuck Chopp
john
Take one of the bolts to a hardware store and ask for "self locking" =
nuts. Get enough for all bolts. Replace the regular nuts and tighten =
well. These nuts have a friction device in them that makes them hard to =
remove. When turned, the bolt turns with them.

Good luck. John

"Prater" <lprater2@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message =
news:x0jvc.21846$_k3.541518@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Glacie has learned a new trick. She has learned how to take the nuts =
off the screws and take the doors off her cage. She has four food dish =
doors and a little side door. One by one she's removing the doors. So =
far she hasn't bothered the big front door. She even understands the =
process -- lefty loosy, righty tighty. She doesn't even bother trying =
to turn them to the right now. She knows that's not how they work. =20

So, my question is this--do any of you have the same problem and if so, =
how did you handle it? Is this a general problem with these smart birds =
or is Glacie an exception? =20

Toni

PS: I also have a louvered closet door that needs repair (hehe). Any =
suggestions here, as well? Toothpicks for sale.

Prater

"Chuck Chopp" <ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com> wrote in message
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> My B&G macaw, Fruit Loop, has no problems working quick links & wing nuts.
> She regularly disassembles all hanging toys in her cage and even goes as

far
> as going outside the cage to undo the wing nuts that hold the brackets for
> her food bowls. Of course, she's managed to lift those big 40 oz food

bowls
> out of the brackets and dump them on the bottom of the cage before she

sends
> the bowl holders crashing down, too.
>
> I don't think that Glacie is unusual in that respect. The larger parrots
> for the most part appear to be dangerously smart w/respect to problem
> solving intelligence. So much so that if they get bored, they will find

new
> things to challenge themselves.
>
> The most bizarre thing I've seen so far was the day I left the house with
> the bird in the cage and the cat sleeping on the window sill and came home
> to find the bird perched on the window sill and the cat locked in the bird
> cage. Nobody else had access to the house and the kids were out with me

all
> day, so I can only assume that Fruit Loop opened the cage, lured the cat

in
> there and then locked the door again all on her own. One off the two

looked
> very smug, and the other looked really disgusted; do you want to guess

which
> one was wearing which look?
>
>
> --
> Chuck Chopp


Priceless! What a hoot that must have been to find the cat locked up. I'm
sure the cat was none too pleased but the bird....... :).

Toni


Cary Powell

"James" <yes, I am me> wrote in message
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>
> "Cary Powell" <tristate96@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:Ebnvc.35549$zO3.14712@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
>
> > Shoot, there were some days that I had trouble
> > opening that stupid lock!

>
>
> Gee what a surprise. Never would have guessed that at all.
>
>
> --
> James
>

You know, i used to follow this group regularly. I rarely ever posted but it
was nice to learn new things about my birds. One can never know enough when
it comes to the well being of your "children". I quit reading several years
ago due to childish smartasses like this who have little to contribute and
lots of discord to sow. I am sorry to see that it is still continuing.
James, you won't have to worry about thinking up any more rude replies to
any messages from me. I will go elsewhere for my bird conversation.
Thanks
Cary Powell


Just Molly

"Prater" <lprater2@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
> I know one lady who swear Blue Throated Macaws are
> > reincarnated Mechanical Engineers!

>
>
> If only we could harness all that energy and turn it into something

useful.
> We could all become RICH!
>

And of course they would work for peanuts ;0)




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