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gal522
"owly" <yeahright@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<9jbuc.16224$4A6.15836@attbi_s52>...
> Dangit, I meant "strong bonds WITH PEOPLE"...sorry...


I thought that was what you meant. We've had our CAG since she was a
wee baby and she has bonded well with everyone, but wouldn't you know
it she has fallen in ?romantic? love with my husband--the one who
holds her, but never feeds her, cleans her cage, etc. Our grey does
love me an awful lot, but it seems to be a different kind of love,
like girlfriend/mom, that kind of thing. One thing I firmly believe
is that our grey is so intelligent that she is aware of much more than
WE are aware she knows. If I enter the room sick, she will make
sounds of sympathy, etc. One could make the argument that she has
just learned that, but if you really are into birds (as we all are in
this group) and know your own pet, you know differently. I spoke to
her yesterday about the lovebird leaving, using "bird words." My DH
thinks I'm crazy when I do that. I use special words I know she
understands and piece them together in a simple way (the grey probably
wonders why I'm talking "down" to her?!). Anyway, she seemed to make
her "sad" noises and gestures with her head when I mentioned on a few
separate occaions that the lovebird was leaving to find a "birdie
love" in an "outside cage." No, no neighbords heard me ;) Seriously,
the grey made some gestures she has never made because and then blew a
kiss, a sound and movement with her hand that she does. I think she
was trying to show me she loved the lovebird and was blowing it a kiss
because she didn't direct it at me. Before anyone classifies me as
insane, let me explain that I believe birds (and particularly certain
birds) are very intelligent, more intelligent than we know. Also,
having owned her a long time I'm very keen to the slightest change in
her behavior.

Since my initial decision, I'm thinking twice about giving the
lovebird away. If I knew for sure the lovebird would be happer (with
a lovebird mate, etc.) I would probably find it easier. It's just
that you never truly know what's going to happen to your pets when
they leave your home even if you do leave them with the best people
you feel you can find. Gosh, as silly as it is, that little lovebird
has known only me since baby on and truly seems satisifed just for me,
turning upside down, performing circus antics, flying onto my
shoulder, etc. I'm thinking twice about giving her away, softening up
a bit :) What's one more beak to feed?
owly
Oh I can SO relate to the things you're saying here, about their levels of
intelligence and empathy, and finding the way to communicate so that WE will
understand (such as blowing the kiss)! And I agree with you on all of your
observations. My grey (also my Meyer's, my red-bellied, and one of my
pionus) has shown understanding of situations within their flock/environment
beyond what one would expect a "mere pet" to show...it could very well be
our expectations (or lack thereof), and not their supposed lack of
intelligence, that gets in the way many times.

I'm glad that you're thinking maybe the little lovey will stay where he is,
I have to admit. I know that birds adapt to new homes/flocks just fine, all
the time, and do great with them. (Most of my flock have been rehomed to
me.) But it's still nice when they don't have to, most of the time :).

Yay!

--
owly
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"gal522" <galations522@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3f6edac0.0405301229.7dc7de4@posting.google.com...
> "owly" <yeahright@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:<9jbuc.16224$4A6.15836@attbi_s52>...
> > Dangit, I meant "strong bonds WITH PEOPLE"...sorry...

>
> I thought that was what you meant. We've had our CAG since she was a
> wee baby and she has bonded well with everyone, but wouldn't you know
> it she has fallen in ?romantic? love with my husband--the one who
> holds her, but never feeds her, cleans her cage, etc. Our grey does
> love me an awful lot, but it seems to be a different kind of love,
> like girlfriend/mom, that kind of thing. One thing I firmly believe
> is that our grey is so intelligent that she is aware of much more than
> WE are aware she knows. If I enter the room sick, she will make
> sounds of sympathy, etc. One could make the argument that she has
> just learned that, but if you really are into birds (as we all are in
> this group) and know your own pet, you know differently. I spoke to
> her yesterday about the lovebird leaving, using "bird words." My DH
> thinks I'm crazy when I do that. I use special words I know she
> understands and piece them together in a simple way (the grey probably
> wonders why I'm talking "down" to her?!). Anyway, she seemed to make
> her "sad" noises and gestures with her head when I mentioned on a few
> separate occaions that the lovebird was leaving to find a "birdie
> love" in an "outside cage." No, no neighbords heard me ;) Seriously,
> the grey made some gestures she has never made because and then blew a
> kiss, a sound and movement with her hand that she does. I think she
> was trying to show me she loved the lovebird and was blowing it a kiss
> because she didn't direct it at me. Before anyone classifies me as
> insane, let me explain that I believe birds (and particularly certain
> birds) are very intelligent, more intelligent than we know. Also,
> having owned her a long time I'm very keen to the slightest change in
> her behavior.
>
> Since my initial decision, I'm thinking twice about giving the
> lovebird away. If I knew for sure the lovebird would be happer (with
> a lovebird mate, etc.) I would probably find it easier. It's just
> that you never truly know what's going to happen to your pets when
> they leave your home even if you do leave them with the best people
> you feel you can find. Gosh, as silly as it is, that little lovebird
> has known only me since baby on and truly seems satisifed just for me,
> turning upside down, performing circus antics, flying onto my
> shoulder, etc. I'm thinking twice about giving her away, softening up
> a bit :) What's one more beak to feed?



tiels_r_cool

"gal522" <galations522@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3f6edac0.0405301229.7dc7de4@posting.google.com...
> "owly" <yeahright@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:<9jbuc.16224$4A6.15836@attbi_s52>...
> > Dangit, I meant "strong bonds WITH PEOPLE"...sorry...

>
> I thought that was what you meant. We've had our CAG since she was a
> wee baby and she has bonded well with everyone, but wouldn't you know
> it she has fallen in ?romantic? love with my husband--the one who
> holds her, but never feeds her, cleans her cage, etc. Our grey does
> love me an awful lot, but it seems to be a different kind of love,
> like girlfriend/mom, that kind of thing. One thing I firmly believe
> is that our grey is so intelligent that she is aware of much more than
> WE are aware she knows. If I enter the room sick, she will make
> sounds of sympathy, etc. One could make the argument that she has
> just learned that, but if you really are into birds (as we all are in
> this group) and know your own pet, you know differently. I spoke to
> her yesterday about the lovebird leaving, using "bird words." My DH
> thinks I'm crazy when I do that. I use special words I know she
> understands and piece them together in a simple way (the grey probably
> wonders why I'm talking "down" to her?!). Anyway, she seemed to make
> her "sad" noises and gestures with her head when I mentioned on a few
> separate occaions that the lovebird was leaving to find a "birdie
> love" in an "outside cage." No, no neighbords heard me ;) Seriously,
> the grey made some gestures she has never made because and then blew a
> kiss, a sound and movement with her hand that she does. I think she
> was trying to show me she loved the lovebird and was blowing it a kiss
> because she didn't direct it at me. Before anyone classifies me as
> insane, let me explain that I believe birds (and particularly certain
> birds) are very intelligent, more intelligent than we know. Also,
> having owned her a long time I'm very keen to the slightest change in
> her behavior.
>
> Since my initial decision, I'm thinking twice about giving the
> lovebird away. If I knew for sure the lovebird would be happer (with
> a lovebird mate, etc.) I would probably find it easier. It's just
> that you never truly know what's going to happen to your pets when
> they leave your home even if you do leave them with the best people
> you feel you can find. Gosh, as silly as it is, that little lovebird
> has known only me since baby on and truly seems satisifed just for me,
> turning upside down, performing circus antics, flying onto my
> shoulder, etc. I'm thinking twice about giving her away, softening up
> a bit :) What's one more beak to feed?


Its a lovebird, im sure you get it, LOVE BIRD and you LOVE THE BIRD, think
about it if you did and what will your feelings be after the first moment
you turn away from it and hear it call you, I could never ever ever get rid
of my Lilo(peachface)she has a mate but she is bonded to me, Dont break a
tiny little heart.




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