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| Phil Jarvis |
I'm trying to get a sense of what these birds are like.
I'm told they're quiet but playful and good as pets.
I'm also told they're slightly more aggressive (Senegals) than, say,
Quakers, and not nearly so talkative.
I'm told the Meyers are less prone to aggressiveness and are more mild
mannered than the Senegals. (I see Meyers also spelled Myers, but if
the technical name is Poicephalus Meyeri, I'm guessing Meyers is the
right common-name spelling).
I have yet to find a Meyers to observe personally. The Senegals I've
seen in various locations have been very subdued and show no sign of
personality. They may as well be on downers. This despite the fact
that in both places I've seen them they're surrounded with very lively
and outgoing parrots of other species, it's just the Senegals that seem
quiet.
Perhaps the birds I've seen are depressed or generally don't like their
surroundings. Still, they're consistently the only birds at their sites
to behave this way (that I've observed).
I'm just looking for your insights into the personality of these birds.
A lot of what I've read and what people tell me suggest these birds
might be right for my environment, and yet the specimens I've observed
seem unhappy and not at all desirous of interaction with the people
around them.
By contrast, when I walk into any room with a Quaker, they're instantly
attentive, seem happy (as if I would know), and have loads of
personality. Of course that very trait may mean they'd be unhappy with
anything but constant attention, I don't know.
Opinions, insights, stories welcome.
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| James |
"Phil Jarvis" <philj2xNoSpamx@sybase.com> wrote in message
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> I'm trying to get a sense of what these birds are like.
>
> I'm told they're quiet but playful and good as pets.
> I'm also told they're slightly more aggressive (Senegals) than, say,
> Quakers, and not nearly so talkative.
>
> I'm told the Meyers are less prone to aggressiveness and are more mild
> mannered than the Senegals.
I once had a quaker. In my experiences and from what I learned here, quakers
can be territorial regarding their cage and will defend it. But the moment
they are out of the cage everything is fine.
I have two senegals. I see no real aggression in them at all. They simply
enjoy being loved. From what I understand, while senegal parrots live to be
loved, meyer's parrots live to love.
> (I see Meyers also spelled Myers, but if
> the technical name is Poicephalus Meyeri, I'm guessing Meyers is the
> right common-name spelling).
>
Actually, It's Meyer's
> I have yet to find a Meyers to observe personally. The Senegals I've
> seen in various locations have been very subdued and show no sign of
> personality. They may as well be on downers. This despite the fact
> that in both places I've seen them they're surrounded with very lively
> and outgoing parrots of other species, it's just the Senegals that seem
> quiet.
>
My senegals enjoy playing with toys they can manipulate with their feet on
the bottom of their cages or floor.
> Perhaps the birds I've seen are depressed or generally don't like their
> surroundings. Still, they're consistently the only birds at their sites
> to behave this way (that I've observed).
>
> I'm just looking for your insights into the personality of these birds.
>
> A lot of what I've read and what people tell me suggest these birds
> might be right for my environment, and yet the specimens I've observed
> seem unhappy and not at all desirous of interaction with the people
> around them.
>
My opinion is that they don't want just anybodies attention. They want the
attention of the person (people) that they know and love.
> By contrast, when I walk into any room with a Quaker, they're instantly
> attentive, seem happy (as if I would know), and have loads of
> personality. Of course that very trait may mean they'd be unhappy with
> anything but constant attention, I don't know.
>
> Opinions, insights, stories welcome.
>
I had a quaker at one time. I brought him home to a house of about 6 other
birds. My house gradually become so noisy that I could hardly stand it. I
didn't want to blame it on the quaker, but I did and I found him a new home
after nine months in mine. My house was immediately back to a normal noise
level. It was the quaker's fault. He was very good at keeping himself from
being the noisiest. He'd get the others started then he'd stop until the
others started to mellow out and he'd get them started again. He was
extremely defensive of his cage and he never spoke a word.
The quaker parakeet does not seem to fit your "requirements" for a pet bird
(attention and noise factors), but seems to be at the top of the list of
potentials which does still include the quieter senegal parrot. So you mays
as well start looking at the conures too. Especially the aratinga conures,
such as the blue-crowned or sun. Not nearly as noisy as a quaker and a bit
more talkative and having "more personality" than the senegal.
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James
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| good golly miss Molly |
"James" <yes, I am me> wrote in message
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>start looking at the conures too. Especially the aratinga conures,
> such as the blue-crowned or sun. Not nearly as noisy as a quaker You are
joking of course?
I keep aratinga conures as well as quakers and nothing outshrieks an
aratinga! My quakers are quiet in comparison.
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| tiels_r_cool |
"James" <yes, I am me> wrote in message
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>
> "Phil Jarvis" <philj2xNoSpamx@sybase.com> wrote in message
> news:O%muc.15395$pt3.9965@attbi_s03...
> > I'm trying to get a sense of what these birds are like.
> >
> > I'm told they're quiet but playful and good as pets.
> > I'm also told they're slightly more aggressive (Senegals) than, say,
> > Quakers, and not nearly so talkative.
> >
> > I'm told the Meyers are less prone to aggressiveness and are more mild
> > mannered than the Senegals.
>
>
> I once had a quaker. In my experiences and from what I learned here,
quakers
> can be territorial regarding their cage and will defend it. But the
moment
> they are out of the cage everything is fine.
> I have two senegals. I see no real aggression in them at all. They
simply
> enjoy being loved. From what I understand, while senegal parrots live to
be
> loved, meyer's parrots live to love.
>
> > (I see Meyers also spelled Myers, but if
> > the technical name is Poicephalus Meyeri, I'm guessing Meyers is the
> > right common-name spelling).
> >
>
> Actually, It's Meyer's
>
> > I have yet to find a Meyers to observe personally. The Senegals I've
> > seen in various locations have been very subdued and show no sign of
> > personality. They may as well be on downers. This despite the fact
> > that in both places I've seen them they're surrounded with very lively
> > and outgoing parrots of other species, it's just the Senegals that seem
> > quiet.
> >
>
> My senegals enjoy playing with toys they can manipulate with their feet on
> the bottom of their cages or floor.
>
>
> > Perhaps the birds I've seen are depressed or generally don't like their
> > surroundings. Still, they're consistently the only birds at their sites
> > to behave this way (that I've observed).
> >
> > I'm just looking for your insights into the personality of these birds.
> >
> > A lot of what I've read and what people tell me suggest these birds
> > might be right for my environment, and yet the specimens I've observed
> > seem unhappy and not at all desirous of interaction with the people
> > around them.
> >
>
> My opinion is that they don't want just anybodies attention. They want
the
> attention of the person (people) that they know and love.
>
>
> > By contrast, when I walk into any room with a Quaker, they're instantly
> > attentive, seem happy (as if I would know), and have loads of
> > personality. Of course that very trait may mean they'd be unhappy with
> > anything but constant attention, I don't know.
> >
> > Opinions, insights, stories welcome.
> >
>
> I had a quaker at one time. I brought him home to a house of about 6
other
> birds. My house gradually become so noisy that I could hardly stand it.
I
> didn't want to blame it on the quaker, but I did and I found him a new
home
> after nine months in mine. My house was immediately back to a normal
noise
> level. It was the quaker's fault. He was very good at keeping himself
from
> being the noisiest. He'd get the others started then he'd stop until the
> others started to mellow out and he'd get them started again. He was
> extremely defensive of his cage and he never spoke a word.
>
> The quaker parakeet does not seem to fit your "requirements" for a pet
bird
> (attention and noise factors), but seems to be at the top of the list of
> potentials which does still include the quieter senegal parrot. So you
mays
> as well start looking at the conures too. Especially the aratinga
conures,
> such as the blue-crowned or sun. Not nearly as noisy as a quaker and a
bit
> more talkative and having "more personality" than the senegal.
>
> --
> James
>
>
Our pair of suns are so freakin loud, they were so cute and cuddly and quiet
in the first few months,but now when they feel the urge
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkkk
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
kkkk
heheheeheheehe I love em
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| John C |
"tiels_r_cool" <journeyman348@velocity.net> wrote in message
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>
> Our pair of suns are so freakin loud, they were so cute and cuddly and
quiet
> in the first few months,but now when they feel the urge
>
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkkk
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
> kkkk
> heheheeheheehe I love em
Yeah, repeat that "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk" several times over
for my sun. He always does it in bursts of several. I keep trying to get him
to Ack out Jingle Bells. It's like singing it on a single steady note.
Ack Ack Ack
Ack Ack Ack
Ack Ack Ack Ack Ack
Only trouble is, on the 3rd line, he either does it only 4 times or 6 or
more. Little bugger.
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| James |
"good golly miss Molly" <oldmolly@tesco.net> wrote in message
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>
> "James" <yes, I am me> wrote in message
> news:bffd5c980f020b55b54c6d968e01ad29@news.teranews.com...
> >start looking at the conures too. Especially the aratinga conures,
> > such as the blue-crowned or sun. Not nearly as noisy as a quaker You
are
> joking of course?
> I keep aratinga conures as well as quakers and nothing outshrieks an
> aratinga! My quakers are quiet in comparison.
>
>
What on earth do you people do to encourage your birds to scream so
excessively? I have three birds that were described as loud obnoxious and
mean when they came to me (sun conure, senegal, Indian ringneck) and they've
been the complete opposite of that from the day I brought them home. They
are not depressed ,sick or whatever else you may be thinking. They are
energetic, playful, friendly birds. They do have ocassional outbursts, but
the vast majority are for an obvious reason (excited about feeding time,
stranger in the room, birds on tv...) and are extremely short lived.
--
James
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| good golly miss Molly |
"James" <yes, I am me> wrote in message
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> What on earth do you people do to encourage your birds to scream so
> excessively?
You are confusing volume with frequecy. Aratingas are 'loud' but not
necessarily frequent screamers.
I have three birds that were described as loud obnoxious and
> mean when they came to me (sun conure, senegal, Indian ringneck) and
they've
> been the complete opposite of that from the day I brought them home. They
> are not depressed ,sick or whatever else you may be thinking. They are
> energetic, playful, friendly birds. They do have ocassional outbursts,
but
> the vast majority are for an obvious reason (excited about feeding time,
> stranger in the room, birds on tv...) and are extremely short lived.
It is perfectly obvious then that they are extremely depressed and fearful
of retribution and stay silent from fear as is natural. Scared birds stay
silent. If you would stop punishing them for making a noise and provide an
interesting environment for them, they would get louder.
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| James |
"good golly miss Molly" <oldmollyREMOVETHIS@tesco.net> wrote in message
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>
> "James" <yes, I am me> wrote in message
> news:9bf99519eb90976da32a0a665af5ab85@news.teranews.com...
> >
> > What on earth do you people do to encourage your birds to scream so
> > excessively?
> You are confusing volume with frequecy. Aratingas are 'loud' but not
> necessarily frequent screamers.
Who said anything about aratingas or their volume? I sure as hell didn't.
So how can I be confusing anything (other than you)?
>
> I have three birds that were described as loud obnoxious and
> > mean when they came to me (sun conure, senegal, Indian ringneck) and
> they've
> > been the complete opposite of that from the day I brought them home.
They
> > are not depressed ,sick or whatever else you may be thinking. They are
> > energetic, playful, friendly birds. They do have ocassional outbursts,
> but
> > the vast majority are for an obvious reason (excited about feeding time,
> > stranger in the room, birds on tv...) and are extremely short lived.
> It is perfectly obvious then that they are extremely depressed and
fearful
> of retribution and stay silent from fear as is natural. Scared birds stay
> silent. If you would stop punishing them for making a noise and provide an
> interesting environment for them, they would get louder.
>
>
Obvious based on what? There is a world of difference between excessive and
silent and I never said my birds were silent. Now you're acting like
everyone else. You are pulling information out of your God damned ass just
to argue about it even though it conflicts with what I posted in the first
place.
You made two seperate responses to what I said and neither had any merit. I
think you're just trying to hard. Next time you want to respond to
something I post relax, close your eyes,and take a deep breath before you
type anything.
--
James
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| Shawn B. Wikle |
Well, I'm a Quaker person. I think they're the best bird pound for
pound available. They are smart, talkative, interactive, etc. But,
they are loud. If the noise is going to be a problem, I wouldn't go
there. I don't think they are an ideal office bird.
Senegals are nice. They aren't as loud or squawky as our Quakers by a
long shot. However, I don't know if this is common or not, but ours
will occasionally start making this brain-piercing "beep" over and
over and over. Now that would drive you nuts in an office. They
don't do this often, but it's really annoying when they do.
No one has mentioned Greys. I think a Timneh Grey would be a good
choice. Talkative, happy, smart.... and not so loud. Ours tend to
talk in real voices which. They are much more pleasant to listen to
than Quakers the majority of the time.
I don't know much about Meyers, we don't have any of those. All I
know is what I've read, which would indicate they might be a good
match for you.
Shawn
On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:23:26 GMT, Phil Jarvis
<philj2xNoSpamx@sybase.com> wrote:
>I'm trying to get a sense of what these birds are like.
>
>I'm told they're quiet but playful and good as pets.
>I'm also told they're slightly more aggressive (Senegals) than, say,
>Quakers, and not nearly so talkative.
>
>I'm told the Meyers are less prone to aggressiveness and are more mild
>mannered than the Senegals. (I see Meyers also spelled Myers, but if
>the technical name is Poicephalus Meyeri, I'm guessing Meyers is the
>right common-name spelling).
>
>I have yet to find a Meyers to observe personally. The Senegals I've
>seen in various locations have been very subdued and show no sign of
>personality. They may as well be on downers. This despite the fact
>that in both places I've seen them they're surrounded with very lively
>and outgoing parrots of other species, it's just the Senegals that seem
>quiet.
>
>Perhaps the birds I've seen are depressed or generally don't like their
>surroundings. Still, they're consistently the only birds at their sites
>to behave this way (that I've observed).
>
>I'm just looking for your insights into the personality of these birds.
>
>A lot of what I've read and what people tell me suggest these birds
>might be right for my environment, and yet the specimens I've observed
>seem unhappy and not at all desirous of interaction with the people
>around them.
>
>By contrast, when I walk into any room with a Quaker, they're instantly
>attentive, seem happy (as if I would know), and have loads of
>personality. Of course that very trait may mean they'd be unhappy with
>anything but constant attention, I don't know.
>
>Opinions, insights, stories welcome.
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