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| Rob |
Hi
I don't know anything about birds. Names, types , nothing.
Please could anyone recommend a bird for a newby.
This may sound strange how I write this but.......please bear with me.
I want one that looks really attractive
Should I get a really old bird that knows it all and can look after itself , well almost, but not
all can , can they , and they end up really scraggy which I've heard is irreversible.
Or should I get a young bird will need alot more attention .but will be alot more fun and enjoyable to have.
Or doesn't it really matter . Would it come down to how long I wanted them to live for.
How old do they die. I know it will vary with each bird but as a rough guideline?
I've seen a site on the web , but to be honest , it seemed like something out of the dark ages.
The animals on there looked terrible and the owners get thousands in donations and stuff.
Which is really sad for the poor things.
So it put me off looking abit.
Please can anyone give me any ideas?
Any advice would be most welcome.
As I said I'm a newcomer to rec.pets.birds
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| Rob |
Hi
I don't know anything about birds. Names, types , nothing.
Please could anyone recommend a bird for a newby.
This may sound strange how I write this but.......please bear with me.
I want one that looks really attractive
Should I get a really old bird that knows it all and can look after itself ,
well almost, but not
all can , can they , and they end up really scraggy which I've heard is
irreversible.
Or should I get a young bird will need alot more attention .but will be alot
more fun and enjoyable to have.
Or doesn't it really matter . Would it come down to how long I wanted them
to live for.
How old do they die. I know it will vary with each bird but as a rough
guideline?
I've seen a site on the web , but to be honest , it seemed like something
out of the dark ages.
The animals on there looked terrible and the owners get thousands in
donations and stuff.
Which is really sad for the poor things.
So it put me off looking abit.
Please can anyone give me any ideas?
Any advice would be most welcome.
As I said I'm a newcomer to rec.pets.birds
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| Dave Bugg |
Rob wrote:
> Hi
> I don't know anything about birds. Names, types , nothing.
> Please could anyone recommend a bird for a newby.
First... get rid of the html.
Second.... for god's sake, don't get a bird. Not right now. Not on impulse.
Third..... your questions are good, but you need to start by reading some
books; find owners with birds whom you can talk to (this is one venue, but
find someone in-person); and spend timeeven figuring out if you are capable
and willing to take care of another sentient being. From your post, I
question whether you are capable of getting a bird. So do a HARD assessment
of yourself, get over the need to do this right away, and look at this from
a *bird's* point of view: WOULD YOU MAKE A GOOD ENOUGH HUMAN TO PUT MY ITTY
BITTY BIRDIE LIFE IN YOUR HANDS?
Dave
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| Louis Boyd |
Dave Bugg wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>
>
>>Hi
>>I don't know anything about birds. Names, types , nothing.
>>Please could anyone recommend a bird for a newby.
>
>
> First... get rid of the html.
>
> Second.... for god's sake, don't get a bird. Not right now. Not on impulse.
>
> Third..... your questions are good, but you need to start by reading some
> books; find owners with birds whom you can talk to (this is one venue, but
> find someone in-person); and spend timeeven figuring out if you are capable
> and willing to take care of another sentient being. From your post, I
> question whether you are capable of getting a bird. So do a HARD assessment
> of yourself, get over the need to do this right away, and look at this from
> a *bird's* point of view: WOULD YOU MAKE A GOOD ENOUGH HUMAN TO PUT MY ITTY
> BITTY BIRDIE LIFE IN YOUR HANDS?
> Dave
The part about asking other bird owners can be misleading. Some will
tell you their birds are wonderful when in fact they just can't admit to
the major mistake they made in getting a bird. At best birds are a
mixed blessing of being an affectionate companion while also being messy
and destructive. At worst they're screaming biting beasts which can
make your life miserable.
--
Lou Boyd
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| Starlight |
On Sat, 29 May 2004 21:40:40 +0000 (UTC), "Rob"
<Spiderman141267pamless@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>I want one that looks really attractive
>Should I get a really old bird that knows it all and can look after itself ,
>well almost, but not
>all can , can they , and they end up really scraggy which I've heard is
>irreversible.
What will you do with the bird when it moults? Birds don't take care
of themselves, even "really old" birds.
I'm trying to bear with you, but I'm thinking a pretty stuffed bird
might be best for you. Sorry, I don't really understand your reasons
for wanting a bird.
Becky
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| geopelia |
"Louis Boyd" <boyd@apt0.sao.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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> Dave Bugg wrote:
> > Rob wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi
> >>I don't know anything about birds. Names, types , nothing.
> >>Please could anyone recommend a bird for a newby.
> >
> >
> > First... get rid of the html.
> >
> > Second.... for god's sake, don't get a bird. Not right now. Not on
impulse.
> >
> > Third..... your questions are good, but you need to start by reading
some
> > books; find owners with birds whom you can talk to (this is one venue,
but
> > find someone in-person); and spend timeeven figuring out if you are
capable
> > and willing to take care of another sentient being. From your post, I
> > question whether you are capable of getting a bird. So do a HARD
assessment
> > of yourself, get over the need to do this right away, and look at this
from
> > a *bird's* point of view: WOULD YOU MAKE A GOOD ENOUGH HUMAN TO PUT MY
ITTY
> > BITTY BIRDIE LIFE IN YOUR HANDS?
> > Dave
>
> The part about asking other bird owners can be misleading. Some will
> tell you their birds are wonderful when in fact they just can't admit to
> the major mistake they made in getting a bird. At best birds are a
> mixed blessing of being an affectionate companion while also being messy
> and destructive. At worst they're screaming biting beasts which can
> make your life miserable.
> --
> Lou Boyd
A ringneck dove can be a good first bird. Very cheap, easy to keep and feed,
won't bite, naturally friendly to humans, can be handled and petted. and
very tough. A dove kept alone regards its owner as its mate. The drawback-
it coos a lot, even at night if disturbed.
Get a young one, and you will have a friend for 20 years or more.
Don't start with a small finch or large parrot. They need experienced
owners.
I can give you some good dove websites if you would like them.
Geopelia
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| Rob |
"Starlight" <homehealth_rnDELETE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:109ib0dqt1uudquc8p4kgjs08jseudga73@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 29 May 2004 21:40:40 +0000 (UTC), "Rob"
> <Spiderman141267pamless@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> >I want one that looks really attractive
> >Should I get a really old bird that knows it all and can look after
itself ,
> >well almost, but not
> >all can , can they , and they end up really scraggy which I've heard is
> >irreversible.
>
> What will you do with the bird when it moults? Birds don't take care
> of themselves, even "really old" birds.
> I'm trying to bear with you, but I'm thinking a pretty stuffed bird
> might be best for you. Sorry, I don't really understand your reasons
> for wanting a bird.
> Becky
Well it was a chat with "molly" that got me thinking about it
and now I cant get the idea out of my head. It is constantly in
my thoughts and I even dreamt about it last night. It's really strange.
Nothing has ever taken over my life like this before and I feel that if
I dont have her, really have her , right now , then I probably never will.
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| Rob |
"Starlight" <homehealth_rnDELETE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:109ib0dqt1uudquc8p4kgjs08jseudga73@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 29 May 2004 21:40:40 +0000 (UTC), "Rob"
> <Spiderman141267pamless@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> >I want one that looks really attractive
> >Should I get a really old bird that knows it all and can look after
itself ,
> >well almost, but not
> >all can , can they , and they end up really scraggy which I've heard is
> >irreversible.
>
> What will you do with the bird when it moults? Birds don't take care
> of themselves, even "really old" birds.
> I'm trying to bear with you, but I'm thinking a pretty stuffed bird
> might be best for you. Sorry, I don't really understand your reasons
> for wanting a bird.
> Becky
I forgot to say I'm the same age as "Molly" , 94 you see , so that's why
I feel I must have her before it's too late . If you know what I mean .
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| geopelia |
"Rob" <Spiderman141267pamless@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Starlight" <homehealth_rnDELETE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:109ib0dqt1uudquc8p4kgjs08jseudga73@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 29 May 2004 21:40:40 +0000 (UTC), "Rob"
> > <Spiderman141267pamless@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >I want one that looks really attractive
> > >Should I get a really old bird that knows it all and can look after
> itself ,
> > >well almost, but not
> > >all can , can they , and they end up really scraggy which I've heard
is
> > >irreversible.
> >
> > What will you do with the bird when it moults? Birds don't take care
> > of themselves, even "really old" birds.
> > I'm trying to bear with you, but I'm thinking a pretty stuffed bird
> > might be best for you. Sorry, I don't really understand your reasons
> > for wanting a bird.
> > Becky
>
> I forgot to say I'm the same age as "Molly" , 94 you see , so that's
why
> I feel I must have her before it's too late . If you know what I mean .
>
If you are 94, and you get a bird, you must find someone who will step in
and care for it if you are no longer with us.
Don't leave that to chance.
Hope you have plenty of time left to enjoy your bird's company.
Geopelia
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| good golly miss Molly |
"Dave Bugg" <deebuggatcharterdotnet> wrote in message
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> Rob wrote:
>
> > Hi
> > I don't know anything about birds. Names, types , nothing.
> > Please could anyone recommend a bird for a newby.
>
> First... get rid of the html.
>
> Second.... for god's sake, don't get a bird. Not right now. Not on
impulse.
>
> Third..... your questions are good, but you need to start by reading some
> books; find owners with birds whom you can talk to (this is one venue, but
> find someone in-person); and spend timeeven figuring out if you are
capable
> and willing to take care of another sentient being. From your post, I
> question whether you are capable of getting a bird. So do a HARD
assessment
> of yourself, get over the need to do this right away, and look at this
from
> a *bird's* point of view: WOULD YOU MAKE A GOOD ENOUGH HUMAN TO PUT MY
ITTY
> BITTY BIRDIE LIFE IN YOUR HANDS?
> Dave
>
>
Folks this is a troll from another newsgroup who has made threats against
me and publicly announced that he is going to annoy me by top posting in
HTML. Silly man.
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| Rob |
"good golly miss Molly" <oldmolly@tesco.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave Bugg" <deebuggatcharterdotnet> wrote in message
> news:10bi1irocaro80b@corp.supernews.com...
> > Rob wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > > I don't know anything about birds. Names, types , nothing.
> > > Please could anyone recommend a bird for a newby.
> >
> > First... get rid of the html.
> >
> > Second.... for god's sake, don't get a bird. Not right now. Not on
> impulse.
> >
> > Third..... your questions are good, but you need to start by reading
some
> > books; find owners with birds whom you can talk to (this is one venue,
but
> > find someone in-person); and spend timeeven figuring out if you are
> capable
> > and willing to take care of another sentient being. From your post, I
> > question whether you are capable of getting a bird. So do a HARD
> assessment
> > of yourself, get over the need to do this right away, and look at this
> from
> > a *bird's* point of view: WOULD YOU MAKE A GOOD ENOUGH HUMAN TO PUT MY
> ITTY
> > BITTY BIRDIE LIFE IN YOUR HANDS?
> > Dave
> >
> >
> Folks this is a troll from another newsgroup who has made threats against
> me and publicly announced that he is going to annoy me by top posting in
> HTML. Silly man.
Excuse me...... I think you are incorrect .
I do not know what you mean , apart from a report that someone had stolen my
identity and was using it in newsgroups.
Dont you remember me Molly .We chatted before about old birds and scraggy
ones.
We were also talking about the coincidence of us being the same age , 94 .
And why would anyone want to threaten such a kind warm hearted person like
yourself Molly?
Surely you must be mistaken sweetheart..
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| tiels_r_cool |
"Rob" <Spiderman141267pamless@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:c9ar85$6fc$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
Hi
I don't know anything about birds. Names, types , nothing.
Please could anyone recommend a bird for a newby.
This may sound strange how I write this but.......please bear with me.
I want one that looks really attractive
Should I get a really old bird that knows it all and can look after itself , well almost, but not
all can , can they , and they end up really scraggy which I've heard is irreversible.
Or should I get a young bird will need alot more attention .but will be alot more fun and enjoyable to have.
Or doesn't it really matter . Would it come down to how long I wanted them to live for.
How old do they die. I know it will vary with each bird but as a rough guideline?
I've seen a site on the web , but to be honest , it seemed like something out of the dark ages.
The animals on there looked terrible and the owners get thousands in donations and stuff.
Which is really sad for the poor things.
So it put me off looking abit.
Please can anyone give me any ideas?
Any advice would be most welcome.
As I said I'm a newcomer to rec.pets.birds
Will you take me home with you?
I can't promise I'll be good
No one has taught me how to act
Or behave as a parrot "should".
My first owner didn't treat me right
He said that I was "bad"
He never forgave me that first bite
After that, he was always mad.
He shoved me back into my cage
And so I started to scream
Then he hit me in a rage
And my life became a bad dream
So now I scream and yes, I bite
I'm angry and misunderstood
But please please take me home with you
Love me and I'll be good
Please let me come home with you
And spend some time with me
I can be sweet again I know
Take me home, you'll see
My next owner swore at me
I learned to say things back
So now my words are crude and rude
Please cut me some slack
If you let me come home with you
I'll learn some nicer speech
If you are kind and give me time
I'll change my vulgar screech
I'm really just a baby
And so misunderstood
Please let me come home with you
I can learn to be good.
My next owner just HAD to have me
She thought I was "way cool"
But now she doesn't have time for me
She's busy with boys and school.
That's why I began to pluck
I'm not pretty any more
I won't be much of an ornament
If that's what you're looking for.
I may never grow new feathers
My chest may always be bare
But my soul I know could heal itself
If only someone would care.
My last owner died and left me
She said that she'd made plans
But she never followed through on them
And I've fallen into bad hands
Please overlook my failings
Please end this pain and strife
Please please take me home with you
I'll be your friend for life.
Please take me home and treat me right
And let our friendship grow
Please let me come home with you
This time it will work, I know
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| sue |
<applause>
very good
well done
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