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Alexander Cain

"m. L. Briggs" <mlbriggs@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:37:24 -0000, "oldmolly"
> <oldmolly@members.v21.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Netserver" <N@free.com> wrote in message
> >news:10l410do2lh4j26st0td594l6q7bcgfvve@4ax.com...
> >> Hi,
> >> My bird seems to groan as in agony and from time to time fall off his
> >> perch. He then lays at the bottom of the cage, were he will lay
> >> looking as if he were dying. I have moved him and he does not respond.
> >> After half an hour are so he seems to come out of it , he begins to
> >> stand, looking confused. Slowly he comes to himself.....This has
> >> happened several times in the last month...
> >>
> >> Any help would truly be appreciated. I would not want to loose him
> >>

> > You would be best taking your bird to an avian certified taxidermist.

When
> >he has attended to him you will have no problems with him fallign off his
> >perch or groaning. All your problems will be solved.
> > Hope this helps :0)
> >

> You sound like a "creep".



The proper term is "bitch."



oldmolly
Alexander Cain wrote:


> > >

> > You sound like a "creep".

>
>
> The proper term is "bitch."
>
>
>

Exactly.
I'm a mean old nasty bitch because I abuse eejits who post for free
diagnosis of a sick pet rather than use what little brains they have and
find a proper vet. Such morons cannot even do a simply google search for
an avian vet and have to be nannied through life with others finding the
info for them.
tiels_r_cool

"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4013d659@news.greennet.net...
> Alexander Cain wrote:
>
>
> > > >
> > > You sound like a "creep".

> >
> >
> > The proper term is "bitch."
> >
> >
> >

> Exactly.
> I'm a mean old nasty bitch because I abuse eejits who post for free
> diagnosis of a sick pet rather than use what little brains they have and
> find a proper vet. Such morons cannot even do a simply google search for
> an avian vet and have to be nannied through life with others finding the
> info for them.


I like the mean old nasty bitch that you can bring forth from yourself.
Cheers


Alexander Cain

"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4013d659@news.greennet.net...
> Alexander Cain wrote:
>
>
> > > >
> > > You sound like a "creep".

> >
> >
> > The proper term is "bitch."
> >
> >
> >

> Exactly.
> I'm a mean old nasty bitch because I abuse eejits who post for free
> diagnosis of a sick pet rather than use what little brains they have and
> find a proper vet. Such morons cannot even do a simply google search for
> an avian vet and have to be nannied through life with others finding the
> info for them.



No, you're a mean old nasty bitch because you're a mean old nasty bitch.
Don't try to justify yourself for your behavior.




Mage
You know something oldmolly, not everyone is as knowledged in the internet
as you think you are or they wouldn't have to ask for help. There is no such
thing as a stupid question. People aren't born knowing everything as you
think you do. It is perfectly clear that you don't. They come here just like
everybody else, to learn something they didn't know. If you can't say
something nice to somebody than keep you stupid, ill, smart assed remarks to
yourself. I'm not speaking for everybody but I'm sure most who read your
replies think your a mean person. I don't think you are, because there are
times when you give good advise. So how about keeping your smartassed
remarks to yourself. If you want to make this a battleground then let the
fun begin. If not, then shut the hell up.
"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4013d659@news.greennet.net...
> Alexander Cain wrote:
>
>
> > > >
> > > You sound like a "creep".

> >
> >
> > The proper term is "bitch."
> >
> >
> >

> Exactly.
> I'm a mean old nasty bitch because I abuse eejits who post for free
> diagnosis of a sick pet rather than use what little brains they have and
> find a proper vet. Such morons cannot even do a simply google search for
> an avian vet and have to be nannied through life with others finding the
> info for them.



Marco

"Mage" <Hatfield4423@yourheadtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:cC8Rb.8631$F86.1137389@twister.southeast.rr.com...

If you can't say
> something nice to somebody than keep you stupid, ill, smart assed remarks

to
> yourself.


LOL
pot-kettle-black?

--
~Marco~
"Shoot'er Wardell, Shoot'er in the head!"
-Brother Boy
----------------------
chuck-underscore-marco-at-bellsouth-dot-net


Mage
Bite me


"Marco" <NonYaBuzinezz@YoMomma.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mage" <Hatfield4423@yourheadtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:cC8Rb.8631$F86.1137389@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>
> If you can't say
> > something nice to somebody than keep you stupid, ill, smart assed

remarks
> to
> > yourself.

>
> LOL
> pot-kettle-black?
>
> --
> ~Marco~
> "Shoot'er Wardell, Shoot'er in the head!"
> -Brother Boy
> ----------------------
> chuck-underscore-marco-at-bellsouth-dot-net
>
>



Marco

"Mage" <Hatfield4423@yourheadtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:BU8Rb.16593$5K1.1111191@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> Bite me


Such wit... i'm amazed.




> "Marco" <NonYaBuzinezz@YoMomma.net> wrote in message
> news:xN8Rb.15004$L04.4245@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> >
> > "Mage" <Hatfield4423@yourheadtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:cC8Rb.8631$F86.1137389@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> >
> > If you can't say
> > > something nice to somebody than keep you stupid, ill, smart assed

> remarks
> > to
> > > yourself.

> >
> > LOL
> > pot-kettle-black?
> >
> > --
> > ~Marco~
> > "Shoot'er Wardell, Shoot'er in the head!"
> > -Brother Boy
> > ----------------------
> > chuck-underscore-marco-at-bellsouth-dot-net
> >
> >

>
>



oldmolly
Mage wrote:

> You know something oldmolly, not everyone is as knowledged in the internet
> as you think you are or they wouldn't have to ask for help. There is no such
> thing as a stupid question. People aren't born knowing everything as you
> think you do. It is perfectly clear that you don't. They come here just like
> everybody else, to learn something they didn't know. If you can't say
> something nice to somebody than keep you stupid, ill, smart assed remarks to
> yourself. I'm not speaking for everybody but I'm sure most who read your
> replies think your a mean person. I don't think you are, because there are
> times when you give good advise.(or advice)



> So how about keeping your smartassed
> remarks to yourself. If you want to make this a battleground then let the
> fun begin. If not, then shut the hell up.


Silly girly. This is usenet. Get used to it or go sit in a corner
somewhere and cry.



(sigh) and the point of your silly post was?
oldmolly
Marco wrote:

>
> "Mage" <Hatfield4423@yourheadtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:BU8Rb.16593$5K1.1111191@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > Bite me

>
> Such wit... i'm amazed.
>
>

Don't bite 'er Marco, you dunno where she's been.:0)
oldmolly
Alexander Cain wrote:


> > >

> > Exactly.
> > I'm a mean old nasty bitch because I abuse eejits who post for free
> > diagnosis of a sick pet rather than use what little brains they have and
> > find a proper vet. Such morons cannot even do a simply google search for
> > an avian vet and have to be nannied through life with others finding the
> > info for them.

>
>
> No, you're a mean old nasty bitch because you're a mean old nasty bitch.
> Don't try to justify yourself for your behavior.
>
>

I have no need to justify myself. I am who I am and I like the way I am
:0)
I may be bitchy on occasions, but *hell* I'm good at it.

Marco

"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
news:40156033@news.greennet.net...
> Marco wrote:
>
> >
> > "Mage" <Hatfield4423@yourheadtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:BU8Rb.16593$5K1.1111191@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > > Bite me

> >
> > Such wit... i'm amazed.
> >
> >

> Don't bite 'er Marco, you dunno where she's been.:0)


Yeah, but could it be worse than boiled onions? :)

--
~Marco~
"Shoot'er Wardell, Shoot'er in the head!"
-Brother Boy
----------------------
chuck-underscore-marco-at-bellsouth-dot-net


oldmolly
Marco wrote:

>
> "oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:40156033@news.greennet.net...
> > Marco wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Mage" <Hatfield4423@yourheadtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:BU8Rb.16593$5K1.1111191@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > > > Bite me
> > >
> > > Such wit... i'm amazed.
> > >
> > >

> > Don't bite 'er Marco, you dunno where she's been.:0)

>
> Yeah, but could it be worse than boiled onions? :)
>
>

Yer, cos she might have a boil where you bite 'er . Ewwwww as they say
in America :0)
Marco

"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4015879e@news.greennet.net...
> Marco wrote:
>
> >
> > "oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:40156033@news.greennet.net...
> > > Marco wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Mage" <Hatfield4423@yourheadtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:BU8Rb.16593$5K1.1111191@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > > > > Bite me
> > > >
> > > > Such wit... i'm amazed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Don't bite 'er Marco, you dunno where she's been.:0)

> >
> > Yeah, but could it be worse than boiled onions? :)
> >
> >

> Yer, cos she might have a boil where you bite 'er . Ewwwww as they say
> in America :0)


Ewwwwww indeed!

--
~Marco~
"Shoot'er Wardell, Shoot'er in the head!"
-Brother Boy
----------------------
chuck-underscore-marco-at-bellsouth-dot-net


Mark Wilson
On occasions? pfft :-P

Try *always*.
Just because you like the way you are doesn't excuse you from being an
arrogant old Mule, Molly.

Molly the Mule.....

Molly the Mule.....

It doesn't make it right. So search inside yourself for your "Happy Place"
and spread some sunshine.

Where is the Love? Where is the love?

Don't be a grinch. You'll find you'll be so much happier if you'd let your
heart grow 3 sizes and just be sociable to people. You'll find that people
are generally good. They will take you as they find you.

But hey, if you just enjoy being a Troll-under-the-bridge, happilly
devouring Billy Goats as they come clip-clopping over, then maybe you are
just a morbid, creepy old lady who deserves nothing better than what she
gets. In which case I really feel sorry for any living creature that has
contact with you. If you irritate people this much with just text on a
screen (thankfully) over the other side of the world, then the trauma to
living things in the general proximity of where you actually are must be
terrifying!!!!!




"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
news:40156088@news.greennet.net...
> Alexander Cain wrote:
>
>
> > > >
> > > Exactly.
> > > I'm a mean old nasty bitch because I abuse eejits who post for free
> > > diagnosis of a sick pet rather than use what little brains they have

and
> > > find a proper vet. Such morons cannot even do a simply google search

for
> > > an avian vet and have to be nannied through life with others finding

the
> > > info for them.

> >
> >
> > No, you're a mean old nasty bitch because you're a mean old nasty bitch.
> > Don't try to justify yourself for your behavior.
> >
> >

> I have no need to justify myself. I am who I am and I like the way I am
> :0)
> I may be bitchy on occasions, but *hell* I'm good at it.
>



Mark Wilson

"Mage" <Hatfield4423@yourheadtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:cC8Rb.8631$F86.1137389@twister.southeast.rr.com...

I'm not speaking for everybody but I'm sure most who read your
> replies think your a mean person.



You're speaking for me!


Mark Wilson
Oh go and feed your Macaw some corduroy, Marco. Then get back under your
bridge.


.......Polo.......





Marco?




......Polo......



"Marco" <NonYaBuzinezz@YoMomma.net> wrote in message
news:Nh9Rb.48889$nQ3.37367@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Mage" <Hatfield4423@yourheadtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:BU8Rb.16593$5K1.1111191@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > Bite me

>
> Such wit... i'm amazed.
>
>
>
>
> > "Marco" <NonYaBuzinezz@YoMomma.net> wrote in message
> > news:xN8Rb.15004$L04.4245@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> > >
> > > "Mage" <Hatfield4423@yourheadtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:cC8Rb.8631$F86.1137389@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > >
> > > If you can't say
> > > > something nice to somebody than keep you stupid, ill, smart assed

> > remarks
> > > to
> > > > yourself.
> > >
> > > LOL
> > > pot-kettle-black?
> > >
> > > --
> > > ~Marco~
> > > "Shoot'er Wardell, Shoot'er in the head!"
> > > -Brother Boy
> > > ----------------------
> > > chuck-underscore-marco-at-bellsouth-dot-net
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



AndyP

"Mage" <Hatfield4423@yourheadtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:cC8Rb.8631$F86.1137389@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> You know something oldmolly, not everyone is as knowledged in the

internet
> as you think you are or they wouldn't have to ask for help. There is no

such
> thing as a stupid question. People aren't born knowing everything as you
> think you do. It is perfectly clear that you don't. They come here just

like
> everybody else, to learn something they didn't know. If you can't say
> something nice to somebody than keep you stupid, ill, smart assed remarks

to
> yourself. I'm not speaking for everybody but I'm sure most who read your
> replies think your a mean person. I don't think you are, because there are
> times when you give good advise. So how about keeping your smartassed
> remarks to yourself. If you want to make this a battleground then let the
> fun begin. If not, then shut the hell up.


Careful. Dare to question the great all-seeing and all-knowing and you may
end up kill-filed!


Marco

"Mark Wilson" <theninja@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:F6hRb.29513$Wa.12582@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Oh go and feed your Macaw some corduroy, Marco. Then get back under your
> bridge.


Wow... 1/2 point for that mediocre attempt... try again sonnyboy.

It's been a while since one of these clueless nitwits called me names.
*sigh*

--
~Marco~
"Shoot'er Wardell, Shoot'er in the head!"
-Brother Boy
----------------------
chuck-underscore-marco-at-bellsouth-dot-net


thehouse@pooh.corner
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:09:25 GMT, "Mark Wilson"
<theninja@bigpond.com> wrote:

><(((*> Oh go and feed your Macaw some corduroy, Marco. Then get back under your
><(((*> bridge.
><(((*>
><(((*>
><(((*> ......Polo.......
><(((*>
><(((*>
><(((*>
><(((*>
><(((*>
><(((*> Marco?
><(((*>
><(((*>
><(((*>
><(((*>
><(((*> .....Polo......


Dip****?

Mark?

Dip****?

I find it amusing that you are doing the very same thing you
accuse oldmolly of doing.

Amusing, but sad.

Them that can, do. Them that can't, teach.

Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
Mark Wilson

>
> Dip****?
>
> Mark?
>
> Dip****?


See mine was funny. That's just lame.....which I guess makes it funny :-D
Well done old man ;-D





> I find it amusing that you are doing the very same thing you
> accuse oldmolly of doing.
>

Amusing, but sad.


Well you know what they say. When you can't beat 'em, join 'em :-)
By your above "Dip****" comment, I guess you have joined in too...


Toucanldy

>From: "Mark Wilson" theninja@bigpond.com


> You'll find you'll be so much happier if you'd let your
>heart grow 3 sizes


An enlarged heart is very unhealthy.
http://www.americanheart.org/presen...identifier=4517

Regards
geoff watts
As you stated its 'Usenet' not 'Abusenet'! or are we having troubles with
pressing the right buttons again!

"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
news:40155fee@news.greennet.net...
> Mage wrote:
>
> > You know something oldmolly, not everyone is as knowledged in the

internet
> > as you think you are or they wouldn't have to ask for help. There is no

such
> > thing as a stupid question. People aren't born knowing everything as you
> > think you do. It is perfectly clear that you don't. They come here just

like
> > everybody else, to learn something they didn't know. If you can't say
> > something nice to somebody than keep you stupid, ill, smart assed

remarks to
> > yourself. I'm not speaking for everybody but I'm sure most who read your
> > replies think your a mean person. I don't think you are, because there

are
> > times when you give good advise.(or advice)

>
>
> > So how about keeping your smartassed
> > remarks to yourself. If you want to make this a battleground then let

the
> > fun begin. If not, then shut the hell up.

>
> Silly girly. This is usenet. Get used to it or go sit in a corner
> somewhere and cry.
>
>
>
> (sigh) and the point of your silly post was?



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oldmolly
geoff watts wrote:

> As you stated its 'Usenet' not 'Abusenet'! or are we having troubles with
> pressing the right buttons again!
>
> "oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:40155fee@news.greennet.net...



You haven't quite got the hang of usenet have you?
For instance, 'don't top post'.
Stick around. I'm sure even *you* will manage to pick it up in time.
Mark Wilson
OOOOOOOOOOO
Don't Top Post.
What the F%^^ does it matter? And why not? Is it *illegal* or something? Is
the F.B.I. gonna come round and say "Hey you, stop you're damn-well top
posting in Usenet or there'll be trouble see?"

And besides, who else *really* cares? Who can honestly say they passionately
care whether or not people top post? Yet again you are just being a c**t.


"oldmolly" troll@thebridge.com put her wrinkly old claws to work one day and
typed:

> You haven't quite got the hang of usenet have you?
> For instance, 'don't top post'.
> Stick around. I'm sure even *you* will manage to pick it up in time.



geoff watts
If people deleted all the unnecessary crap out of posts then I would not
have a problem with bottom posting but I refuse to read the same **** time
and again when all I require is the reply. Even 'you' must get sick of the
rubbish not being deleted! or do you like to keep reading it over and over
so you can make something out of it that is not there?

"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
news:40167d55@news.greennet.net...
> You haven't quite got the hang of usenet have you?
> For instance, 'don't top post'.
> Stick around. I'm sure even *you* will manage to pick it up in time.



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lol . . .
Molly, you're my kind of gal . ..
--Tock


Louis
"geoff watts" <geoffwatts1@optusnet.com.au> writes:

>> "oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:40167d55@news.greennet.net...
>
>> You haven't quite got the hang of usenet have you? For instance,
>> 'don't top post'. Stick around. I'm sure even *you* will manage to
>> pick it up in time.

>
> If people deleted all the unnecessary crap out of posts then I would not
> have a problem with bottom posting but I refuse to read the same **** time
> and again when all I require is the reply. Even 'you' must get sick of the
> rubbish not being deleted! or do you like to keep reading it over and over
> so you can make something out of it that is not there?


You should take the time to edit each post and format it so as to be
readable to others, just like I've done with your post now. Sure, it
might take 3-6 seconds to edit and format your post in an appropriate
fashion, but in the end its the way you choose to present yourself so
I guess you can post however you want.

You are a person. If you have a problem reading the 'unnecessary
crap' then edit it out so people can respond to the clean and edited
post you've created. This method will give people one less reason to
try and 'flame' you for top posting.

Here is a link you might find useful:

* Location: http://www.google.com/search?btnG=G...SO-8859-1&hl=en

Why is Bottom-posting better than Top-posting

By A. Smit and H.W. de Haan

Definitions:

Top-posting: Writing the message above the original text, when one replies to
an email or a post in a newsgroup.
Bottom-posting: The opposite of top-posting. Now the new message is placed
below the original text.

We are fanatic Usenet-readers. As a result we are often annoyed by people who
keep top-posting. This is considered as not good 'Net etiquette'. The majority
of Usenet-users prefer bottom-posting.
In addition to bottom-posting, it is customary to leave out non-relevant parts
of the message with regard to the reply, and to put the reply directly beneath
the quoted relevant parts. If you want to know more about writing new posts.
Check out this site: http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html

Below you can find our arguments why bottom-posting is better than
top-posting.

1. Because it is proper Usenet Etiquette. Check out the following URL: http:/
/www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html . It is a little outdated but still has a
lot of valid points. Let us quote something from this site:

If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
enough text of the original to give a context. This will make sure
readers understand when they start to read your response. Since
NetNews, especially, is proliferated by distributing the postings from
one host to another, it is possible to see a response to a message
before seeing the original. Giving context helps everyone. But do not
include the entire original!

2. We use a good news reader like Forte Agent. Good newsreaders like Agent
put the signature by default at the end of the post, which is the Usenet
convention. Microsoft Outlook Express however has some serious bugs. Let
us quote someone we know:

"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the
day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

We are programmers ourselves, and we know it is very easy to implement to
put a signature at the end of the post instead of putting it directly
above the post you are replying to and can not change the position. Forte
Agent has as a feature that reply to a post it will remove the signature
(recognizable by '-- ', note the extra space) and everything below it, so
it will remove a part of the original message. This is good Usenet
practice so Agent is not faulty. Outlook Express on the other hand is
faulty, check this bugreport regarding the Usenet signature delimiter.

If you want to try Agent, you can get it here.

3. Top-posting makes posts incomprehensible. Firstly: In normal
conversations, one does not answer to something that has not yet been
said. So it is unclear to reply to the top, whilst the original message is
at the bottom. Secondly: In western society a book is normally read from
top to bottom. Top-posting forces one to stray from this convention:
Reading some at the top, skipping to the bottom to read the question, and
going back to the top to continue. This annoyance increases even more than
linear with the number of top-posts in the message. If someone replies to
a thread and you forgot what the thread was all about, or that thread was
incomplete for some reasons, it will be quite tiresome to rapidly
understand what the thread was all about, due to bad posting and
irrelevant text which has not been removed.

4. To prevent hideously long posts with a minimal account of new text, it is
good Usenet practice to remove the non-relevant parts and optionally
summarize the relevant parts of the original post, with regard to one's
reply. Top-posting inevitably leads to long posts, because most
top-posters leave the original message intact. All these long posts not
only clutter up discussions, but they also clutter up the server space.

5. Top-posting makes it hard for bottom-posters to reply to the relevant
parts: it not possible to answer within the original message.
Bottom-posting does not make top-posting any harder.

6. Some people will argue that quoting looks bad due line wrapping. This can
simply be dealt with by dropping Outlook Express as a start, and using
only linewidths of 65 - 70 characters. Otherwise one has do it manually,
and that can be tiresome.

7. A reason given by stubborn top-posters: they don't like to scroll to read
the new message. We like to disagree here, because we always have to
scroll down to see the original message and after that to scroll back up,
just to see to what they are replying to. As a result you have to scroll
twice as much when reading a top-poster's message. As a counterargument
they say (believe us they do): "You can check the previous message in the
discussion". This is even more tiresome than scrolling and with the
unreliable nature of Usenet (and even email is inevitably unreliable), the
previous message in the discussion can be simply unavailable.

8. Some newsgroups have strict conventions concerning posting in their
charter. As an example we can tell you that in most Dutch newsgroups, you
will be warned, killfiled or maybe even flamed, if you fail to follow
Usenet conventions or if you do not quote according to the quoting
guidelines. In general: it is better to practice the guidelines, if one
does not want to get flamed in a newsgroup one just subscribed to.

We can conclude that there are no good reasons we know of for top-posting. The
most top-posts originate from the minimal work people spend on making posts.
We think that one should be proud of one's post, that is it contains relevant
content, well-formed sentences and no irrelevant 'bullsh*t', before uploading
to your newsserver. If the majority of the group will adhere to this
convention, the group will be nicer, tidier and easier to read.

As a final remark we want to bring non-quoting into mind. This means that the
original content of an email or Usenet post is completely removed. It makes it
very hard for a reader to find out to what and whom one is replying. This
phenomenon can be partly attributed to wrong settings of news- and
email-clients, and partly to people who want to start with clean replies.
Special thanks goes to P. Knutsen and P. Roskin for giving constructive
feedback

* Location: http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html

--
Linux pmud.com 2.6.1-rc1 #1 Fri Jan 9 01:37:51 UTC 2004 i686 Pentium
III (Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
Mark Wilson
OK How about I just snip out everything you said then?


GET A F&^*ING LIFE!!
How long did you spend researching your little "look at me I'm so learned"
article? Or did you write it yourself?

LOOOOOOOSER!!!!!!!!!!!

Le-who....Ze-her.

Don't be so Anal Retentive. Unclench.



oldmolly
geoff watts wrote:

> If people deleted all the unnecessary crap out of posts then I would not
> have a problem with bottom posting but I refuse to read the same **** time
> and again when all I require is the reply. Even 'you' must get sick of the
> rubbish not being deleted! or do you like to keep reading it over and over
> so you can make something out of it that is not there?
>

You are totally correct. People are simply too idle to snip posts. It
makes me mad too, having to scroll all the way to the bottom of a long
thread. About as mad as I get when someone posts a reply with no
reference to what they were replying to. People say I'm inconsiderate,
but not snipping, and replying to posts without giving the reader a clue
as to what the reply was in reference to, shows a lack of concern for
anyone else.


> "oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:40167d55@news.greennet.net...
> > You haven't quite got the hang of usenet have you?
> > For instance, 'don't top post'.
> > Stick around. I'm sure even *you* will manage to pick it up in time.

>
>
>


oldmolly
<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> lol . . .
> Molly, you're my kind of gal . ..
> --Tock
>
>

No, really. I'm not.
AndyP

"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4017f829@news.greennet.net...

> shows a lack of concern for
> anyone else.


Now this is the funniest thing I've read on this group (even ahead of the
usual comedy that oldmolly writes)!!!



Mark Wilson
All the more reason to top post, Mole
Then there is no need to scroll

But slamming people is your goal,
that's because you're just a troll...

Just a troll.....

Just a troll.....


"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4017f829@news.greennet.net...

> You are totally correct. People are simply too idle to snip posts. It
> makes me mad too, having to scroll all the way to the bottom of a long
> thread.




"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4017f898@news.greennet.net...
> <tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > lol . . .
> > Molly, you're my kind of gal . ..
> > --Tock
> >
> >

> No, really. I'm not.



Oh, sure you are. Feisty. Knows your own mind. Won't take any bs from
anybody.

Me -- I'm just browsing through the bird groups, doing some reading before
deciding between a dog and a parrot. I see the conversation gets pretty
lively here, and there are some seasoned experts here to give advice, which
is a good sign . . .
I'll probably do more lurking/reading, learning from the difficulties
folks have, and from the advice the experts have to offer . . . But mostly,
I just wanted to put $.01 of my $.02 worth in, let ya know there's folks out
here that appreciate you and the advice you have to offer.
10,000 Texas-sized thanks,
--Tock


Mark Wilson
Kiss ass

<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:pt0Sb.12583$R81.6861@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com...

> I just wanted to ya know there's folks out
> here that appreciate you and the advice you have to offer.
> 10,000 Texas-sized thanks,
> --Tock
>
>




"Mark Wilson" <theninja@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:LE3Sb.33161$Wa.8210@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Kiss ass



Not at all . . .
I guess you and I don't appreciate the same qualities in people . . .
Which is ok by me . . . but there's no need to be rude about it . . .

As the Good Book says, "Bless those who curse you," I'll end this with a
sincere
Have a nice day,
--Tock


oldmolly
<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
> "oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:4017f898@news.greennet.net...
> > <tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > > lol . . .
> > > Molly, you're my kind of gal . ..
> > > --Tock
> > >
> > >

> > No, really. I'm not.

>
>
> Oh, sure you are. Feisty. Knows your own mind. Won't take any bs from
> anybody.
>
> Me -- I'm just browsing through the bird groups, doing some reading before
> deciding between a dog and a parrot. I see the conversation gets pretty
> lively here, and there are some seasoned experts here to give advice, which
> is a good sign . . .
> I'll probably do more lurking/reading, learning from the difficulties
> folks have, and from the advice the experts have to offer . . . But mostly,
> I just wanted to put $.01 of my $.02 worth in, let ya know there's folks out
> here that appreciate you and the advice you have to offer.
> 10,000 Texas-sized thanks,


Well thank you kindly. It's nice to have genius appreciated :-))
I have dogs too. Used to breed and show at championship level in the
1980's. Be happy to help if you need an impartial, honest opinion.


"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote
> Well thank you kindly. It's nice to have genius appreciated :-))
> I have dogs too. Used to breed and show at championship level in the
> 1980's. Be happy to help if you need an impartial, honest opinion.



Cool . . . what breed did you work with? I used to train German Shepherds
and a little Cairn Terrier for narcotic detection in the military. I was
really fond of the little terrier, so I'm thinking of getting one to adopt
me (that's the way they see it, anyway) from a Cairn rescue. I've always
wanted a talking bird, and I got to thinking about them this past summer
while playing (don't laugh) my accordian out at the lake . . . it seems the
crows were attracted to it; they'd gather 'round and stare and listen.
Some sort of bird intelligence was showing through; they'd communicate with
each other somewhat, and I'd try to imitate the sounds they made (made no
impression on 'em), and I was as amazed and intrigued with them as they
seemed to be with my rendition of "Lady of Spain."
Anyway, the crows got me to thinking about birds, and looking through old
military pictures got me thinking about a terrier.
I guess I'm 50-50 between the two right now (won't get both; I'm pretty
sure a Cairn wouldn't leave a bird alone), and the choice may hinge on which
has simpler potty requirements. On one hand, I'd have to pry my lazy butt
out of bed on cold, wet, miserable winter mornings to walk the dog down 2
flights of stairs and across the parking lot. I don't know much about
birds, but I'm guessing I'd just have to change paper in the bottom of their
cage? Then again, I'd be bummed out more by seeing a bird dropping on the
carpet than a dog turd . . .
So, I'm still working things out . . . I'll have to stop by the local Half
Price Books and get a pile of parrot books and bone up on the trivia that
I'll need to become familar with, and decide before I get a dog if I'm
really prepared for early morning dog-walks in inclimate weather (I suspect
I am, but I'm gonna make sure). Won't do it before next December, got a a
few eggs to fry beforehand.
If I have any questions I'll be sure to post here . . . I know I'll get
good advice . . .
Thanks again,
--Tock


Steve
Can you imagine the poor birds that live with this scank of a moron.
"Mark Wilson" <theninja@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:KRCRb.31151$Wa.25576@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> OOOOOOOOOOO
> Don't Top Post.
> What the F%^^ does it matter? And why not? Is it *illegal* or something?

Is
> the F.B.I. gonna come round and say "Hey you, stop you're damn-well top
> posting in Usenet or there'll be trouble see?"
>
> And besides, who else *really* cares? Who can honestly say they

passionately
> care whether or not people top post? Yet again you are just being a c**t.
>
>
> "oldmolly" troll@thebridge.com put her wrinkly old claws to work one day

and
> typed:
>
> > You haven't quite got the hang of usenet have you?
> > For instance, 'don't top post'.
> > Stick around. I'm sure even *you* will manage to pick it up in time.

>
>



Marco
<lame flamebait snipped>
what are you doing dragging this crap from the african grey group over to
this side?
And sorry... all our opening for resident loonies have been filled up. But
thanks for applying.

--
=-Marco-=
Parrots are Loud
Parrots are Messy
Parrots are Expensive
Parrots are Needy
Parrots are Wild Animals
*************
Parrots are NOT toys
Parrots are NOT decorations
Parrots are NOT easy to keep
Parrots can be a pain in the ass!
Pizza Girl
Top posting is recommended by those that want more people to read their
posts and have consideration for others.

Your choice.

"Steve" <sgordon@encode.com> wrote in message
news:104d4o7ft10kd1a@corp.supernews.com...
> Can you imagine the poor birds that live with this scank of a moron.
> "Mark Wilson" <theninja@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:KRCRb.31151$Wa.25576@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > OOOOOOOOOOO
> > Don't Top Post.
> > What the F%^^ does it matter? And why not? Is it *illegal* or something?

> Is
> > the F.B.I. gonna come round and say "Hey you, stop you're damn-well top
> > posting in Usenet or there'll be trouble see?"
> >
> > And besides, who else *really* cares? Who can honestly say they

> passionately
> > care whether or not people top post? Yet again you are just being a

c**t.
> >
> >
> > "oldmolly" troll@thebridge.com put her wrinkly old claws to work one day

> and
> > typed:
> >
> > > You haven't quite got the hang of usenet have you?
> > > For instance, 'don't top post'.
> > > Stick around. I'm sure even *you* will manage to pick it up in time.

> >
> >

>
>



Marco
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 14:15:30 GMT, oldmolly <oldmolly1955@bitches.co.uk>
wrote:

> Marco wrote:
>
>>
>> Oh jeez... here we go... another one with an obsession for OM.

> I just can't seem to help it Marco. Men get obsessed by me and
> passionate about me. And here I be, hair showing lots of grey, no make
> up, dressed like a bag lady and smelling of puppy widdle. <flicks hair
> over her shoulder> It must be my animal magnetism :0)
> I drive the chaps wild you know hehe


LOL... whatever you are using we better bottle it and sell it... we could
make a fortune... could call it Eau de Widdle
Oh, I can see the commercials now, very calvin Klei-isn:
Black and white, of course... A disheveled woman tending to her farm, 2
inch thick sole of poop stuck to her flip flops.
A strapping young man approaches, whisks her off her feet, rips her
flimsy housederss off, kisses her passionately and both take a hot long,
*sensous* bath in the pigs mudpool.
--
=-Marco-=
Parrots are Loud
Parrots are Messy
Parrots are Expensive
Parrots are Needy
Parrots are Wild Animals
*************
Parrots are NOT toys
Parrots are NOT decorations
Parrots are NOT easy to keep
Parrots can be a pain in the ass!
Marco
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 09:56:46 -0500, Marco <IAM@HOME.NOW> wrote:

> On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 14:15:30 GMT, oldmolly <oldmolly1955@bitches.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Marco wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Oh jeez... here we go... another one with an obsession for OM.

>> I just can't seem to help it Marco. Men get obsessed by me and
>> passionate about me. And here I be, hair showing lots of grey, no make
>> up, dressed like a bag lady and smelling of puppy widdle. <flicks hair
>> over her shoulder> It must be my animal magnetism :0)
>> I drive the chaps wild you know hehe

>
> LOL... whatever you are using we better bottle it and sell it... we
> could make a fortune... could call it Eau de Widdle
> Oh, I can see the commercials now, very calvin Klei-isn:
> Black and white, of course... A disheveled woman tending to her farm, 2
> inch thick sole of poop stuck to her flip flops.
> A strapping young man approaches, whisks her off her feet, rips her
> flimsy housederss off, kisses her passionately and both take a hot long,
> *sensous* bath in the pigs mudpool.


*Cuppy in the background: "Isnr a nice naner?"

Ok,,,, *slaps hand* bad marco, bad marco!

--
=-Marco-=
Parrots are Loud
Parrots are Messy
Parrots are Expensive
Parrots are Needy
Parrots are Wild Animals
*************
Parrots are NOT toys
Parrots are NOT decorations
Parrots are NOT easy to keep
Parrots can be a pain in the ass!
Marco

Oh jeez... here we go... another one with an obsession for OM.
Only that this one is a vet... oooooooookkkkk!

On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 21:22:56 -0500, Steve <sgordon@encode.com> wrote:

> Can you imagine the poor birds that live with this scank of a moron.
> "Mark Wilson" <theninja@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:KRCRb.31151$Wa.25576@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> OOOOOOOOOOO
>> Don't Top Post.
>> What the F%^^ does it matter? And why not? Is it *illegal* or something?

> Is
>> the F.B.I. gonna come round and say "Hey you, stop you're damn-well top
>> posting in Usenet or there'll be trouble see?"
>>
>> And besides, who else *really* cares? Who can honestly say they

> passionately
>> care whether or not people top post? Yet again you are just being a
>> c**t.
>>
>>
>> "oldmolly" troll@thebridge.com put her wrinkly old claws to work one day

> and
>> typed:
>>
>> > You haven't quite got the hang of usenet have you?
>> > For instance, 'don't top post'.
>> > Stick around. I'm sure even *you* will manage to pick it up in time.

>>
>>

>
>




--
=-Marco-=
Parrots are Loud
Parrots are Messy
Parrots are Expensive
Parrots are Needy
Parrots are Wild Animals
*************
Parrots are NOT toys
Parrots are NOT decorations
Parrots are NOT easy to keep
Parrots can be a pain in the ass!
peneny@earthlink.net
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 02:52:54 GMT, "Pizza Girl" <abuse@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Top posting is recommended by those that want more people to read their
>posts and have consideration for others.
>

Are you newbie?

From news.newusers.questions

Q7: Why shouldn't I put my comments above the quoted material?

A7: Keep in mind that you're not writing just for the person whose
posting you're responding to. (If you are, you should be e-mailing
your response instead of posting it.) Thousands of other people may
read what you write. People who aren't directly involved in a
discussion themselves, and who are probably following several
discussions at once, usually follow the logic more easily when they
can read the material in more-or-less chronological order.

When you have just a single question and response, and they're both
short, and the discussion doesn't develop any further, it really
doesn't make that much difference in practice. But it's impossible to
predict in advance whether a response will draw another response. So
in general, it's best to put your response below the text that you're
responding to.

Q11: Who made these rules, anyway?

A11: Nobody in particular made these "rules". They developed over the
years, based on the experience of people who use newsgroups a lot, and
who like to be able to read and participate in many discussions
efficiently.


>Your choice.
>
>"Steve" <sgordon@encode.com> wrote in message
>news:104d4o7ft10kd1a@corp.supernews.com...
>> Can you imagine the poor birds that live with this scank of a moron.
>> "Mark Wilson" <theninja@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>> news:KRCRb.31151$Wa.25576@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> > OOOOOOOOOOO
>> > Don't Top Post.
>> > What the F%^^ does it matter? And why not? Is it *illegal* or something?

>> Is
>> > the F.B.I. gonna come round and say "Hey you, stop you're damn-well top
>> > posting in Usenet or there'll be trouble see?"
>> >
>> > And besides, who else *really* cares? Who can honestly say they

>> passionately
>> > care whether or not people top post? Yet again you are just being a

>c**t.
>> >
>> >
>> > "oldmolly" troll@thebridge.com put her wrinkly old claws to work one day

>> and
>> > typed:
>> >
>> > > You haven't quite got the hang of usenet have you?
>> > > For instance, 'don't top post'.
>> > > Stick around. I'm sure even *you* will manage to pick it up in time.
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>


X-No-Archive: yes
oldmolly
Marco wrote:

>
> Oh jeez... here we go... another one with an obsession for OM.

I just can't seem to help it Marco. Men get obsessed by me and
passionate about me. And here I be, hair showing lots of grey, no make
up, dressed like a bag lady and smelling of puppy widdle. <flicks hair
over her shoulder> It must be my animal magnetism :0)
I drive the chaps wild you know hehe
oldmolly
Marco wrote:

> On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 14:15:30 GMT, oldmolly <oldmolly1955@bitches.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > Marco wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Oh jeez... here we go... another one with an obsession for OM.

> > I just can't seem to help it Marco. Men get obsessed by me and
> > passionate about me. And here I be, hair showing lots of grey, no make
> > up, dressed like a bag lady and smelling of puppy widdle. <flicks hair
> > over her shoulder> It must be my animal magnetism :0)
> > I drive the chaps wild you know hehe

>
> LOL... whatever you are using we better bottle it and sell it... we could
> make a fortune... could call it Eau de Widdle
> Oh, I can see the commercials now, very calvin Klei-isn:
> Black and white, of course... A disheveled woman tending to her farm, 2
> inch thick sole of poop stuck to her flip flops.
> A strapping young man approaches, whisks her off her feet, rips her
> flimsy housederss off, kisses her passionately and both take a hot long,
> *sensous* bath in the pigs mudpool.
>

Wow, have you been spying on me??? ROFL. I rather fancied calling my
perfume 'Canal number two's', or 'peepee le chat' as French is just so
much more refined dintcha think?
Pizza Girl
Yes, I have only been using Usenet for 6 or 7 years.

Are you? You should know this by know

<peneny@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1a8e40t6qc8dsu68jcme35uik7feb69qkf@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 02:52:54 GMT, "Pizza Girl" <abuse@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Top posting is recommended by those that want more people to read their
> >posts and have consideration for others.
> >

> Are you newbie?
>
> From news.newusers.questions
>
> Q7: Why shouldn't I put my comments above the quoted material?
>
> A7: Keep in mind that you're not writing just for the person whose
> posting you're responding to. (If you are, you should be e-mailing
> your response instead of posting it.) Thousands of other people may
> read what you write. People who aren't directly involved in a
> discussion themselves, and who are probably following several
> discussions at once, usually follow the logic more easily when they
> can read the material in more-or-less chronological order.
>
> When you have just a single question and response, and they're both
> short, and the discussion doesn't develop any further, it really
> doesn't make that much difference in practice. But it's impossible to
> predict in advance whether a response will draw another response. So
> in general, it's best to put your response below the text that you're
> responding to.
>
> Q11: Who made these rules, anyway?
>
> A11: Nobody in particular made these "rules". They developed over the
> years, based on the experience of people who use newsgroups a lot, and
> who like to be able to read and participate in many discussions
> efficiently.
>
>
> >Your choice.
> >
> >"Steve" <sgordon@encode.com> wrote in message
> >news:104d4o7ft10kd1a@corp.supernews.com...
> >> Can you imagine the poor birds that live with this scank of a moron.
> >> "Mark Wilson" <theninja@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> >> news:KRCRb.31151$Wa.25576@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >> > OOOOOOOOOOO
> >> > Don't Top Post.
> >> > What the F%^^ does it matter? And why not? Is it *illegal* or

something?
> >> Is
> >> > the F.B.I. gonna come round and say "Hey you, stop you're damn-well

top
> >> > posting in Usenet or there'll be trouble see?"
> >> >
> >> > And besides, who else *really* cares? Who can honestly say they
> >> passionately
> >> > care whether or not people top post? Yet again you are just being a

> >c**t.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "oldmolly" troll@thebridge.com put her wrinkly old claws to work one

day
> >> and
> >> > typed:
> >> >
> >> > > You haven't quite got the hang of usenet have you?
> >> > > For instance, 'don't top post'.
> >> > > Stick around. I'm sure even *you* will manage to pick it up in

time.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >

>
> X-No-Archive: yes



Pizza Girl
You think it is all funny, you sick pig.

"oldmolly" <oldmolly1955@bitches.co.uk> wrote in message
news:40473880.0@entanet...
> Marco wrote:
>
> >
> > Oh jeez... here we go... another one with an obsession for OM.

> I just can't seem to help it Marco. Men get obsessed by me and
> passionate about me. And here I be, hair showing lots of grey, no make
> up, dressed like a bag lady and smelling of puppy widdle. <flicks hair
> over her shoulder> It must be my animal magnetism :0)
> I drive the chaps wild you know hehe



Marco
On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 01:13:26 GMT, Pizza Girl <abuse@hotmail.com> wrote:

> You think it is all funny, you sick pig.


You are the joke around here, dumbass.


--
=-Marco-=
Parrots are Loud
Parrots are Messy
Parrots are Expensive
Parrots are Needy
Parrots are Wild Animals
*************
Parrots are NOT toys
Parrots are NOT decorations
Parrots are NOT easy to keep
Parrots can be a pain in the ass!
Marc0
On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 01:12:03 GMT, Pizza Girl <abuse@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, I have only been using Usenet for 6 or 7 years.
>
> Are you? You should know this by know


Your post is an example of really bad usenet posting style. And the
perfect opportunity to see bad top posting happening.

YOUR message were the 2 lines above. Do we have any idea what you're
answering to? That "Yes", is it a yes to what question? "Are you?" Are you
what? And what should the person know by NOW (not know).
Plus, you didn't trim the rest of the unnecessary lines below your posts
(messages from 4 different people, which had nothing to do with your
reply).
So, you say you've been using Usenet for 6 or 7 years (big whoop! if you
ask me!), you should know by now how to edit and quote and trim properly.

At the end it just reflects the contents and validity of your posts...
mostly garbage




--
=-Marco-=
Parrots are Loud
Parrots are Messy
Parrots are Expensive
Parrots are Needy
Parrots are Wild Animals
*************
Parrots are NOT toys
Parrots are NOT decorations
Parrots are NOT easy to keep
Parrots can be a pain in the ass!


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