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| Margaret Sullivan |
Hi Everyone!
I have been a lurker here for some time now and enjoy reading all posts,
especially pertaining to budgies and try to glean as much information as
possible.
I feel confident enough now to try a post, so, here goes:
I have two budgies, male and female. It's just me and my budgies 24/7,
sooooo, they can be very demanding, especially when it comes to treats.
Feeding them bread is wrong (Iknow!) and I am trying to break them of the
habit but I need a substitute for them. The male likes to feed the female
and bread seems to be "it" for him.
Its been two days now since I gave them any bread but they are very upset
,and demanding.
I love my little birds and don't want to start any bad
habits with them - i.e., bread. They have free rein of my apartment and fly
'round and 'round and squawk incessently, especially when I am in the
kitchen. This has become very annoying but I am trying to break this bad
habit I have started!!! So can you help me, please?
Pet stores here are very short on varieties of supplies. Thank you for
your time. I would greatly appreciate any help.
Sincerely,
Margaret
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| High Flight |
Margaret Sullivan <ordaze@hotmail.com> says...
> I love my little birds and don't want to start any bad
> habits with them - i.e., bread. They have free rein of my apartment and fly
> 'round and 'round and squawk incessently, especially when I am in the
> kitchen. This has become very annoying but I am trying to break this bad
> habit I have started!!! So can you help me, please?
Try something like corn flakes. Or toasting one of those whole grain
breads.
Jack
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| jmcquown |
High Flight wrote:
> Margaret Sullivan <ordaze@hotmail.com> says...
>> I love my little birds and don't want to start any bad
>> habits with them - i.e., bread. They have free rein of my apartment
>> and fly 'round and 'round and squawk incessently, especially when
>> I am in the kitchen. This has become very annoying but I am trying
>> to break this bad habit I have started!!! So can you help me,
>> please?
>
> Try something like corn flakes. Or toasting one of those whole grain
> breads.
>
> Jack
Agreed - corn flakes would be good. I can't see why feeding them bread is a
bad thing. Nutritionally it sucks but if they like a little bit of bread,
switch to whole grain as Jack suggests.
Jill
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| Linda Ambrose-Bates |
"Margaret Sullivan" <ordaze@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I love my little birds and don't want to start any bad
> habits with them - i.e., bread. They have free rein of my apartment and fly
> 'round and 'round and squawk incessently, especially when I am in the
> kitchen. This has become very annoying but I am trying to break this bad
> habit I have started!!! So can you help me, please?
>
> Pet stores here are very short on varieties of supplies. Thank you for
> your time. I would greatly appreciate any help.
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Margaret:
You can also offer muslix/musli cereal as a treat. Also, Rice Krispies
and Cheerios. Twelve-grain, Russian or pumpernickel is healthier than
sandwich or white bread which tends to be gummy.
Hope this helps.
Linda
Montreal, Quebec, CANADA
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| Vincent J. Hrovat |
How about some homemade birdie bread instead? Recipes abound on the web, but
here's a simple one for starters:
1 box Jiffy Corn Bread Mix
1 egg, including crushed shell
1/3 cup milk
1 cup vegetables (diced yams, peas, carrots, etc.)
Heat oven to 400. Grease 8" x 8" baking pan. Mix the corn bread mix, egg and
milk in a bowl. Mix in the vegetables. Pour into baking pan. Bake for 15 to 20
minutes until light golden brown. Freeze unused bread in single-serving baggies
and microwave to reheat.
Good luck.
In a previous post, "Margaret Sullivan" <ordaze@hotmail.com> said:
>Hi Everyone!
>
>I have been a lurker here for some time now and enjoy reading all posts,
>especially pertaining to budgies and try to glean as much information as
>possible.
>
>I feel confident enough now to try a post, so, here goes:
>
>I have two budgies, male and female. It's just me and my budgies 24/7,
>sooooo, they can be very demanding, especially when it comes to treats.
>
>Feeding them bread is wrong (Iknow!) and I am trying to break them of the
>habit but I need a substitute for them. The male likes to feed the female
>and bread seems to be "it" for him.
>
>Its been two days now since I gave them any bread but they are very upset
>,and demanding.
>
> I love my little birds and don't want to start any bad
>habits with them - i.e., bread. They have free rein of my apartment and fly
>'round and 'round and squawk incessently, especially when I am in the
>kitchen. This has become very annoying but I am trying to break this bad
>habit I have started!!! So can you help me, please?
>
>Pet stores here are very short on varieties of supplies. Thank you for
>your time. I would greatly appreciate any help.
>
>Sincerely,
>Margaret
>
>
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Vincent J. Hrovat / Omnia quia sunt, lumina sunt.
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| oldmolly |
jmcquown wrote:
> High Flight wrote:
> > Margaret Sullivan <ordaze@hotmail.com> says...
> >> I love my little birds and don't want to start any bad
> >> habits with them - i.e., bread. They have free rein of my apartment
> >> and fly 'round and 'round and squawk incessently, especially when
> >> I am in the kitchen. This has become very annoying but I am trying
> >> to break this bad habit I have started!!! So can you help me,
> >> please?
> >
> > Try something like corn flakes. Or toasting one of those whole grain
> > breads.
> >
> > Jack
>
> Agreed - corn flakes would be good. I can't see why feeding them bread is a
> bad thing. Nutritionally it sucks but if they like a little bit of bread,
> switch to whole grain as Jack suggests.
>
But you cannot see why sand perch covers are bad either.
Bread is bad because it is full of additives and not much nutrition. A
small bit of bread for a budgie will fill its crop with rubbish instead
of something nutritionally sound. Just as feeding wild birds with white
bread in spring has been shown to kill nestlings, bread isn't good fir
any birds. A bit of toasted wholegrain for a parrot isn't bad but a tiny
bird like a budgie cannot have more than a crumb without being full up
:0(
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| jmcquown |
oldmolly wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
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>> High Flight wrote:
>>> Margaret Sullivan <ordaze@hotmail.com> says...
>>>> I love my little birds and don't want to start any bad
>>>> habits with them - i.e., bread. They have free rein of my
>>>> apartment
>>>> and fly 'round and 'round and squawk incessently, especially when
>>>> I am in the kitchen. This has become very annoying but I am trying
>>>> to break this bad habit I have started!!! So can you help me,
>>>> please?
>>>
>>> Try something like corn flakes. Or toasting one of those whole
>>> grain breads.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>
>> Agreed - corn flakes would be good. I can't see why feeding them
>> bread is a bad thing. Nutritionally it sucks but if they like a
>> little bit of bread, switch to whole grain as Jack suggests.
>>
> But you cannot see why sand perch covers are bad either.
Hey, Molly, I did say I had my doubts about those covers... maybe you should
learn to read.
Jill
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| D Daestl Beattie |
"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
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> But you cannot see why sand perch covers are bad either.
> Bread is bad because it is full of additives and not much nutrition. A
> small bit of bread for a budgie will fill its crop with rubbish instead
> of something nutritionally sound. Just as feeding wild birds with white
> bread in spring has been shown to kill nestlings, bread isn't good fir
> any birds. A bit of toasted wholegrain for a parrot isn't bad but a tiny
> bird like a budgie cannot have more than a crumb without being full up
> :0(
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Thank you, oldmolly, for both this, and the detailed description of
contraindications for grit on perches posted in another recent thread. "Red
Factor Canary"
While I have no large birds, I enjoy learning of them, their needs & habits,
etc., and I do not feed bleached-refined flour bread, nor use grit, either,
for the finches & 'keets I do care for.
I have noticed that budgies have a smoother, almost 'skin-like' foot,
compared to say finches. Less 'scaley'.
But your description of grains of grit lodging in, and irritating, the soft
creases of a budgie's foot, causing bumblefoot illuminated the whole problem
for me, and I shall so advise any of my personal contacts who might inquire
about it of me.
Thanks again, Pam. ( if I may )
Avid rec.pets.birds lurker, and lover of finches
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ddaestlb@hotmail.com
Engineering Resources
Bldg: BB 129
Neder Rijn Engineer Park
Camp Petawawa
K8H 2X3
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| jmcquown |
Vincent J. Hrovat wrote:
> How about some homemade birdie bread instead? Recipes abound on the
> web, but here's a simple one for starters:
>
> 1 box Jiffy Corn Bread Mix
Jiffy Corn Bread Mix is filled with sugar. I don't want to eat it myself
let alone give it to a poor defenseless bird. It's easy enough to make
cornbreadfor a bird using some yellow cornmeal, butter, non-fat buttermilk,
2 eggs (with the shell) and some corn or carrots. As you mentioned, this
stuff freezes well. You can use a cast iron cornstick pan so the "bread" is
shaped like an ear of corn and can be easily placed in a treat holder for
the bird(s) to nibble on.
Jill
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| Louis |
"Margaret Sullivan" <ordaze@hotmail.com> writes:
> I love my little birds and don't want to start any bad habits with
> them - i.e., bread. They have free rein of my apartment and fly
> 'round and 'round and squawk incessently, especially when I am in
> the kitchen. This has become very annoying but I am trying to break
> this bad habit I have started!!! So can you help me, please?
I give my birds 'mini wheats' while I give myself 'frosted mini
wheats' made by Kellogg's. I'll give em a 'frosted mini wheat' after
scraping a majority of the sugar off, but thats only when I'm out of
the regular kind. They seem to love the frosted ones a tad more, but
hey birdie beggars cant be choosers, eh?
I hope 'mini wheats' are not bad for the birds, because thats usually
their brunch. :p
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| oldmolly |
jmcquown wrote:
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> Hey, Molly, I did say I had my doubts about those covers... maybe you should
> learn to read.
>
But you said initially
" put one of those perch covers on one of the perches which has
sand/grit glued to it."
you only mentioned you weren't sure how effective they were as an
afterthought.(shrug)
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| oldmolly |
D Daestl Beattie wrote:
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> Thank you, oldmolly, for both this, and the detailed description of
> contraindications for grit on perches posted in another recent thread. "Red
> Factor Canary"
>
> While I have no large birds, I enjoy learning of them, their needs & habits,
> etc., and I do not feed bleached-refined flour bread, nor use grit, either,
> for the finches & 'keets I do care for.
>
> I have noticed that budgies have a smoother, almost 'skin-like' foot,
> compared to say finches. Less 'scaley'.
>
> But your description of grains of grit lodging in, and irritating, the soft
> creases of a budgie's foot, causing bumblefoot illuminated the whole problem
> for me, and I shall so advise any of my personal contacts who might inquire
> about it of me.
>
> Thanks again, Pam. ( if I may )
>
'course you can :0)
Glad you found my offerings helpful. I too keep finches and canaries.
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| O'Donnell Tribunal |
> " put one of those perch covers on one of the perches which has
> sand/grit glued to it."
What about that Avia sandpaper on the cage floor (not covering the
whole cage) is that OK?
O'Donnell Abu
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| Steve |
"D Daestl Beattie" <ddaestlb@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have noticed that budgies have a smoother, almost 'skin-like' foot,
> compared to say finches. Less 'scaley'.
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Their skin is 'skin-like' Damn!!! your brilliant!
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