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| njem |
My cockatoo usually lives atop her cage. Suddenly she's going down to a
sheltered corner of the floor and shredding the carpet. Obviously she's
doing some nesting thing. I'd like to give her something in her cage she
could use as a nest. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Tom
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| John Hines |
"njem" <njem at vei dot net> wrote:
>My cockatoo usually lives atop her cage. Suddenly she's going down to a
>sheltered corner of the floor and shredding the carpet. Obviously she's
>doing some nesting thing. I'd like to give her something in her cage she
>could use as a nest. Any ideas?
Cardboard box, with a hole in it? Parrots breed in cavities, like
hollow logs and such, in the wild. Check the web, you should be able to
find the approx dimensions of a nest box for your birds species.
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| Marco |
"njem" <njem at vei dot net> wrote in message
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> My cockatoo usually lives atop her cage. Suddenly she's going down to a
> sheltered corner of the floor and shredding the carpet. Obviously she's
> doing some nesting thing. I'd like to give her something in her cage she
> could use as a nest. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
That's the worst thing you can do, to encourage breeding behaviour on a
single, pet bird. If it's a female it could lead to egglaying, which could
get complicated and cost the bird it's life... if it's a male it could
develope aggression & behaviour problems.
So if I was you I'd really reconsider getting your bird "in the mood".
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~Marco~
"Shoot'er Wardell, Shoot'er in the head!"
-Brother Boy
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| jmcquown |
njem wrote:
> My cockatoo usually lives atop her cage. Suddenly she's going down to
> a sheltered corner of the floor and shredding the carpet. Obviously
> she's doing some nesting thing. I'd like to give her something in her
> cage she could use as a nest. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
If she doesn't have a mate you don't want to encourage egg laying. Make
sure she does NOT have shreddable material at the bottom of the cage. Watch
for egg binding. It's okay if a solitary bird sits on an egg or two, but
you don't want to encourage this behavior. If you plan to mate her, now is
the time to find an acceptable male for her. They make nesting boxes for
such things.
Jill
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| oldmolly |
Marco wrote:
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> "njem" <njem at vei dot net> wrote in message
> news:Ru-dncrtm_8tPY_dRVn-hA@veiinternet.net...
> > My cockatoo usually lives atop her cage. Suddenly she's going down to a
> > sheltered corner of the floor and shredding the carpet. Obviously she's
> > doing some nesting thing. I'd like to give her something in her cage she
> > could use as a nest. Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom
>
> That's the worst thing you can do, to encourage breeding behaviour on a
> single, pet bird. If it's a female it could lead to egglaying, which could
> get complicated and cost the bird it's life... if it's a male it could
> develope aggression & behaviour problems.
> So if I was you I'd really reconsider getting your bird "in the mood".
>
>
Yup I agree wholeheartedly with bothe Marco (step up you)
and Jill.
Egg laying should *not* be encouraged.There is a real danger of your
bird becoming egg bound which will kill her if she lays too many eggs,
so do all you can to take her mind off things. Switch the lights out in
her room, or cover her cage to try to give her only 10-12 daylight
hours.
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| njem |
Thanks all. She has never laid an egg and it would never have occured to me
that providing the nest she was looking for could lead to a problem. Glad I
asked.
Tom
"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Marco wrote:
>
> >
> > "njem" <njem at vei dot net> wrote in message
> > news:Ru-dncrtm_8tPY_dRVn-hA@veiinternet.net...
> > > My cockatoo usually lives atop her cage. Suddenly she's going down to
a
> > > sheltered corner of the floor and shredding the carpet. Obviously
she's
> > > doing some nesting thing. I'd like to give her something in her cage
she
> > > could use as a nest. Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom
> >
> > That's the worst thing you can do, to encourage breeding behaviour on a
> > single, pet bird. If it's a female it could lead to egglaying, which
could
> > get complicated and cost the bird it's life... if it's a male it could
> > develope aggression & behaviour problems.
> > So if I was you I'd really reconsider getting your bird "in the mood".
> >
> >
> Yup I agree wholeheartedly with bothe Marco (step up you)
> and Jill.
> Egg laying should *not* be encouraged.There is a real danger of your
> bird becoming egg bound which will kill her if she lays too many eggs,
> so do all you can to take her mind off things. Switch the lights out in
> her room, or cover her cage to try to give her only 10-12 daylight
> hours.
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| Martha |
Tom,
(Molly and Marco are the types that a) think that they know everything
about birds and b) that it is their responsibility to chastise everyone
and tell them how to raise their birds. Molly can be the most rude
about it.
First of all, this just recently happened to me. I couldn't understand
why she was feverishly tearing up the paper in the bottom of her cage.
Then one evening, I looked over and poof! there was an egg. I was not
quite expecting this.
More than likely, your bird is already pregnant. And if you would like
to know how this happened, it is probably because she is very bonded to
you. These birds will bond with their owners and consider them as
mates. So to her, you are her "man" and the two of you will raise baby
cockatoos together. You know, have a family.
As far as being eggbound. Don't panic over this. The biggest reason
this is an issue is because the owners aren't aware of this, so they
aren't making sure that their birds have enough calcium in their diet.
They need the calcium to be sure the egg is in the right condition to be
able to pass from their system.
I took her egg away after she laid it and disassembled her nest. She
went back down to the bottom of her cage to sleep that night. So in the
middle of the night, I went to check on her and I think I startled her
a little, so she decided to sleep on her perch. (they don't like being
low or on the ground because it isn't safe for them) Then, in the
morning, she went back down to the bottom, but didn't stay there for
long. Now she is back to normal.
I also observed that she would back into one of her toys and she seemed
to be "getting off" to it. I have moved her toys so that she can't do
that. Now I have just one more thing to fix and I have no idea how I'm
going to do this yet. Every time I touch her, she goes into "sex" mode.
How is your bird responding to you? Have you noticed her engage in
anything sexual?
njem wrote:
> My cockatoo usually lives atop her cage. Suddenly she's going down to a
> sheltered corner of the floor and shredding the carpet. Obviously she's
> doing some nesting thing. I'd like to give her something in her cage she
> could use as a nest. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
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| Laurie |
"Martha" <tosca@airmail.net> wrote in message
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> Tom,
>
> (Molly and Marco are the types that a) think that they know everything
> about birds and b) that it is their responsibility to chastise everyone
> and tell them how to raise their birds. Molly can be the most rude
> about it.
What is with all these childish people lately? If you don't like someone's
posts, don't read them. It's that simple. And by the way, Molly and Marco
DO know alot about birds...obviously much more than you do. Your next
sentence proves my point:
>
> More than likely, your bird is already pregnant.
OK Voodoo dude....sic 'em! LOL
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| Martha |
I deleted the post because I made the mistake of including Marco in the
same catagory. Sorry about that, Marco.
Laurie wrote:
> "Martha" <tosca@airmail.net> wrote in message
> news:40266CD1.2080505@airmail.net...
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>>Tom,
>>
>>(Molly and Marco are the types that a) think that they know everything
>>about birds and b) that it is their responsibility to chastise everyone
>>and tell them how to raise their birds. Molly can be the most rude
>>about it.
>
>
> What is with all these childish people lately? If you don't like someone's
> posts, don't read them. It's that simple. And by the way, Molly and Marco
> DO know alot about birds...obviously much more than you do. Your next
> sentence proves my point:
>
>>More than likely, your bird is already pregnant.
>
>
> OK Voodoo dude....sic 'em! LOL
>
>
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| Martha |
Laurie wrote:
> "Martha" <tosca@airmail.net> wrote in message
> news:40266CD1.2080505@airmail.net...
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>>Tom,
>>
>>(Molly and Marco are the types that a) think that they know everything
>>about birds and b) that it is their responsibility to chastise everyone
>>and tell them how to raise their birds. Molly can be the most rude
>>about it.
>
I encountered her on another site. She is rude and I am going to say
it. There are ways of communicating information to people so that you
are understood. But her way is to assume you're an idiot and then
proceed that way.
>
> What is with all these childish people lately? If you don't like someone's
> posts, don't read them. It's that simple. And by the way, Molly and Marco
> DO know alot about birds...obviously much more than you do. Your next
> sentence proves my point:
>
>>More than likely, your bird is already pregnant.
>
>
> OK Voodoo dude....sic 'em! LOL
>
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| Marco |
"Martha" <tosca@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:40266CD1.2080505@airmail.net...
> Tom,
>
> (Molly and Marco are the types that a) think that they know everything
> about birds and b) that it is their responsibility to chastise everyone
> and tell them how to raise their birds.
This thread is almost 2 weeks old, why are you digging this up? Oh, I
know... you are part of that new breed of bleeding heart whinny fools who
can't be told "no, you are wrong" unless you sugarcoat it.
There's a 'rash' of people in these ngs lately that are so freaking
sensitive... you have to spoon feed them the info laced with sweet, loving
words, otherwise they are not able to digest it. Such crap.
Furthermore, what is your issue with this thread in particular? The guy
asked a question, it was answered, he was satisfied with the advice
given.... what's your beef with that?
>Molly can be the most rude
> about it.
Well, you're right about that! (j/k o.m.!)
> More than likely, your bird is already pregnant.
Here, do some reading on the female parrot reproductive system.... and
you'll find out that, OMG! Parrots don't get pregnant!
http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww32eiv.htm
http://www.jobird.com/eggdevel.htm
http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cach...ang_en&ie=UTF-8
http://www.arndt-verlag.com/projekt...m&Pic=142_1.JPG
>And if you would like
> to know how this happened, it is probably because she is very bonded to
> you. These birds will bond with their owners and consider them as
> mates. So to her, you are her "man" and the two of you will raise baby
> cockatoos together. You know, have a family.
A bird might get 'broody' and lay eggs regardless of human interaction or
lack thereof.
> As far as being eggbound. Don't panic over this. The biggest reason
> this is an issue is because the owners aren't aware of this, so they
> aren't making sure that their birds have enough calcium in their diet.
> They need the calcium to be sure the egg is in the right condition to be
> able to pass from their system.
Don't panic over egg-binding??? Are you for real???
Every owner of female birds should be absolutely aware and concerned about
egg binding.
Egg binding could absolutely kill the hen.
http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww68eiv.htm
http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww69eiv.htm
--
~Marco~
"Shoot'er Wardell, Shoot'er in the head!"
-Brother Boy
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| Marco |
"Laurie" <whowhat@where.com> wrote in message
news:B9uVb.19806$uM2.18215@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
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> "Martha" <tosca@airmail.net> wrote in message
> news:40266CD1.2080505@airmail.net...
> > Tom,
> >
> > (Molly and Marco are the types that a) think that they know everything
> > about birds and b) that it is their responsibility to chastise everyone
> > and tell them how to raise their birds. Molly can be the most rude
> > about it.
>
> What is with all these childish people lately? If you don't like
someone's
> posts, don't read them. It's that simple. And by the way, Molly and
Marco
> DO know alot about birds...obviously much more than you do. Your next
> sentence proves my point:
> >
> > More than likely, your bird is already pregnant.
>
> OK Voodoo dude....sic 'em! LOL
Why do you do this to me, Laurie... I was busy making some dates wrapped in
bacon to take over to my sis. And darn it, I forgot the goat cheese! LOL
--
~Marco~
"Shoot'er Wardell, Shoot'er in the head!"
-Brother Boy
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chuck-underscore-marco-at-bellsouth-dot-net
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| Marco |
"Martha" <tosca@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:402676C4.3010304@airmail.net...
>
>
> Laurie wrote:
> > "Martha" <tosca@airmail.net> wrote in message
> > news:40266CD1.2080505@airmail.net...
> >
> >>Tom,
> >>
> >>(Molly and Marco are the types that a) think that they know everything
> >>about birds and b) that it is their responsibility to chastise everyone
> >>and tell them how to raise their birds. Molly can be the most rude
> >>about it.
> >
>
> I encountered her on another site.
So this is a personal vendetta.... has nothing to do with the advice given
or anything like that...
>She is rude and I am going to say
> it.
Oh please! Like people here don't know that Oldmolly can be a quite rough
and rude at times. You're preaching to the choir.
>There are ways of communicating information to people so that you
> are understood. But her way is to assume you're an idiot and then
> proceed that way.
And you picked the absolutely worst thread to use as your example: guy asks
a question, oldmolly (and others) answer and give advice, the guy replies:
"Thanks all. She has never laid an egg and it would never have occured to me
that providing the nest she was looking for could lead to a problem. Glad I
asked."
It doesn't seem like the guy felt insulted or belittled in any way...
because he wasn't!
So, you got your wittle feelings hurt my oldmolly, BFD! Get over yourself!
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~Marco~
"Shoot'er Wardell, Shoot'er in the head!"
-Brother Boy
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chuck-underscore-marco-at-bellsouth-dot-net
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| Martha |
Marco, I had already apologized to you about catagorizing you. I have
read over Molly's posts. I am assuming by her posts that she does not
have any large birds. She has small ones. There is a difference
between the parrots and the smaller birds. As a matter of fact, she
referred me to sites about cockatiels! when I posted about my cockatoo
on another newsgroup.
Regarding eggbinding? Yes, I am serious, it is not something to panic
over. It is not the general rule that birds get eggbound. It happens,
but it is not the norm and it can be prevented. The first thing I did
when my bird laid her egg was call my vet; I wanted to know if it was
possible for her to lay another, and if I needed to change her diet.
But don't panic over it.
I get the impression that the people on this newsgroup think that
Cockatoos and parrots in general are fragile. They are absolutely not
fragile. Do they require special care? yes. Are there things that
should be avoided if possible? yes. But the advice that I see given is
presented in such a way that you would think that one false move, and
suddenly, your pet is dead. Owning a bird is not that complex.
My interest in this particular thread is that his cockatoo was nesting.
My cockatoo recently laid an egg, I was curious about what he was
saying. I wanted to know about other cockatoo owners that are
experiencing this. I know parrot owners where I live, I inquired and
most of them had not known of anyone this happened to. I have met many
owners of COCKATIELS who have had this happen.
I'll be the first to tell you, I have a great, well-adjusted, happy
bird. (I have to prevent people from thinking that all birds are like
mine and running off and getting one) I have an extremely busy lifestyle
and I live in an apartment. I am an example of all the "don'ts" when it
comes to having a cockatoo.
Marco wrote:
> "Martha" <tosca@airmail.net> wrote in message
> news:40266CD1.2080505@airmail.net...
>
>>Tom,
>>
>>(Molly and Marco are the types that a) think that they know everything
>>about birds and b) that it is their responsibility to chastise everyone
>>and tell them how to raise their birds.
>
>
> This thread is almost 2 weeks old, why are you digging this up? Oh, I
> know... you are part of that new breed of bleeding heart whinny fools who
> can't be told "no, you are wrong" unless you sugarcoat it.
> There's a 'rash' of people in these ngs lately that are so freaking
> sensitive... you have to spoon feed them the info laced with sweet, loving
> words, otherwise they are not able to digest it. Such crap.
>
> Furthermore, what is your issue with this thread in particular? The guy
> asked a question, it was answered, he was satisfied with the advice
> given.... what's your beef with that?
>
>
>
>>Molly can be the most rude
>>about it.
>
>
> Well, you're right about that! (j/k o.m.!)
>
>
>>More than likely, your bird is already pregnant.
>
>
> Here, do some reading on the female parrot reproductive system.... and
> you'll find out that, OMG! Parrots don't get pregnant!
> http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww32eiv.htm
> http://www.jobird.com/eggdevel.htm
> http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cach...ang_en&ie=UTF-8
> http://www.arndt-verlag.com/projekt...m&Pic=142_1.JPG
>
>
>>And if you would like
>>to know how this happened, it is probably because she is very bonded to
>>you. These birds will bond with their owners and consider them as
>>mates. So to her, you are her "man" and the two of you will raise baby
>>cockatoos together. You know, have a family.
>
>
> A bird might get 'broody' and lay eggs regardless of human interaction or
> lack thereof.
>
>
>>As far as being eggbound. Don't panic over this. The biggest reason
>>this is an issue is because the owners aren't aware of this, so they
>>aren't making sure that their birds have enough calcium in their diet.
>>They need the calcium to be sure the egg is in the right condition to be
>>able to pass from their system.
>
>
> Don't panic over egg-binding??? Are you for real???
> Every owner of female birds should be absolutely aware and concerned about
> egg binding.
> Egg binding could absolutely kill the hen.
> http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww68eiv.htm
> http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww69eiv.htm
>
>
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| Helix |
> I'll be the first to tell you, I have a great, well-adjusted, happy
> bird. (I have to prevent people from thinking that all birds are like
> mine and running off and getting one) I have an extremely busy lifestyle
> and I live in an apartment. I am an example of all the "don'ts" when it
> comes to having a cockatoo.
>
Martha,
How old is your too and what species?
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| Martha |
She is an umbrella and will turn 7 in March. I got her when she was 4
months old. I waited a month before actually getting her because I
wanted to research a little. Then I looked at other cockatoos before
getting her. We connected the first day we met. :)
Helix wrote:
>>I'll be the first to tell you, I have a great, well-adjusted, happy
>>bird. (I have to prevent people from thinking that all birds are like
>>mine and running off and getting one) I have an extremely busy lifestyle
>>and I live in an apartment. I am an example of all the "don'ts" when it
>>comes to having a cockatoo.
>>
>
>
> Martha,
>
> How old is your too and what species?
>
>
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| Helix |
"Martha" <tosca@airmail.net> wrote in message
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> She is an umbrella and will turn 7 in March. I got her when she was 4
> months old. I waited a month before actually getting her because I
> wanted to research a little. Then I looked at other cockatoos before
> getting her. We connected the first day we met. :)
>
Cool!
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| Marco |
"Martha" <tosca@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:40268479.6000706@airmail.net...
> Marco, I had already apologized to you about catagorizing you. I have
> read over Molly's posts. I am assuming by her posts that she does not
> have any large birds. She has small ones. There is a difference
> between the parrots and the smaller birds. As a matter of fact, she
> referred me to sites about cockatiels! when I posted about my cockatoo
> on another newsgroup.
That's how little you know about oldmolly.... she has at least one cockatoo
and other 'large' birds.
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Marco
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I have kleptomania. When it gets bad, I take something for it.
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| Martha |
Well I would have been more impressed if she had actually referred me to
a page about cockatoos instead of cockatiels. You at least did.
Marco wrote:
> "Martha" <tosca@airmail.net> wrote in message
> news:40268479.6000706@airmail.net...
>
>>Marco, I had already apologized to you about catagorizing you. I have
>>read over Molly's posts. I am assuming by her posts that she does not
>>have any large birds. She has small ones. There is a difference
>>between the parrots and the smaller birds. As a matter of fact, she
>>referred me to sites about cockatiels! when I posted about my cockatoo
>>on another newsgroup.
>
>
> That's how little you know about oldmolly.... she has at least one cockatoo
> and other 'large' birds.
>
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| Marco |
"Martha" <tosca@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:402691AA.8050407@airmail.net...
> Well I would have been more impressed if she had actually referred me to
> a page about cockatoos instead of cockatiels. You at least did.
I know exactly the urls she provided. And those articles on those websites
apply to cockatiels and cockatoos and pretty much every parrot out there.
The one was on the NCS website explained about egglaying and how to deter
it.
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~Marco~
"Shoot'er Wardell, Shoot'er in the head!"
-Brother Boy
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| Vox |
On 8-Feb-2004, Martha <tosca@airmail.net> wrote:
> Well I would have been more impressed if she had actually referred me to
> a page about cockatoos instead of cockatiels. You at least did.
You are splitting hairs. Cockatiels ARE cockatoos.
Vox.
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"Martha" <tosca@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:40268479.6000706@airmail.net...
>
> Regarding eggbinding? Yes, I am serious, it is not something to panic
> over. It is not the general rule that birds get eggbound. It happens,
> but it is not the norm and it can be prevented. The first thing I did
> when my bird laid her egg was call my vet; I wanted to know if it was
> possible for her to lay another, and if I needed to change her diet.
> But don't panic over it.
>
> I get the impression that the people on this newsgroup think that
> Cockatoos and parrots in general are fragile. They are absolutely not
> fragile. Do they require special care? yes. Are there things that
> should be avoided if possible? yes. But the advice that I see given is
> presented in such a way that you would think that one false move, and
> suddenly, your pet is dead. Owning a bird is not that complex.
>
> My interest in this particular thread is that his cockatoo was nesting.
> My cockatoo recently laid an egg, I was curious about what he was
> saying. I wanted to know about other cockatoo owners that are
> experiencing this. I know parrot owners where I live, I inquired and
> most of them had not known of anyone this happened to. I have met many
> owners of COCKATIELS who have had this happen.
>
I probably shouldn't reply, but I will anyway. I have a cockatoo who did get
eggbound. We are her 3rd home and she had never laid eggs before coming to
live with us. The vet said it was probably because her diet and health were
better after living with us for couple of months. It can not always be
prevented. She was getting extra calcium. The only sign I had that something
wasn't right was a slight decrease in vocalization and slightly lethargic.
She was still eating. She spent the night at the hospital and then had to go
back the day after I got her home because she didn't seem to be right. I do
tend to panic when she goes into egg laying mode, because I am afraid it
could happen again.
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Debbie, Dusty (CAG) and Casperella (U2)
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