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| Crystina J |
My daughters bday is coming up in April & she has been asking for a
bird. Does anyone have any suggestions on which sort of bird is good as
a first pet bird for a kid. I dont want a big one!! But I do want one
that we can take out of the cage & be able to hold! Any advice would be
greatly appreciated!
Crystina
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| Rick |
"Crystina J" <TheJusticeFamily@webtv.net> wrote in message news:2676-4011A699-115@storefull-3357.bay.webtv.net...
> My daughters bday is coming up in April & she has been asking for a
> bird. Does anyone have any suggestions on which sort of bird is good as
> a first pet bird for a kid. I dont want a big one!! But I do want one
> that we can take out of the cage & be able to hold! Any advice would be
> greatly appreciated!
How old is she?
What's your budget?
Is she (and are you) aware that owning a bird can be a 20-40
year (or even longer) commitment? Is she old enough to
understand what that means?
Rick
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| jmcquown |
Crystina J wrote:
> My daughters bday is coming up in April & she has been asking for a
> bird. Does anyone have any suggestions on which sort of bird is good
> as a first pet bird for a kid. I dont want a big one!! But I do want
> one that we can take out of the cage & be able to hold! Any advice
> would be greatly appreciated!
> Crystina
My parents gave me my first parakeet when I was 6 years old. It was the
sweetest little bird. Not only did it teach me all about responsibility of
feeding, watering, cleaning the cage, it became my best friend. Be sure
your daughter knows not to have the bird out if the doors or windows are
open.
When my dad was transferred from NJ to CA, the bird made the trip in the car
across country without a fuss. (When we were later transferred overseas
when I was 9 years old, we gave the care of the 'keet over to my mom's
parents. They'd never had a pet before. They loved that bird!)
Parakeets are definitely friendly, easy to handle and tame if you get them
young. Some tips when picking a parakeet: make sure the stripes on the
forehead go all the way down to the cere (nose) - this indicates a really
young bird which is what you want. I never found much difference in paying
(okay, we're talking 12 years ago) $14.99 for a parakeet at a pet shop as
opposed to a $50 "hand raised" parakeet; if they are young enough they were
hand fed anyway and I never saw a difference.
I've had many over the years; honestly, the most friendly budgie I ever had
was a foundling my brother caught in the back yard. We didn't know how old
Buddy was, but his blue cere indicated he was a boy budgie and his forehead
was white feathers. I was 14 when he was found and 28 when he died.
Good luck with your daughter's birthday present!
Jill
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| oldmolly |
"Crystina J" <TheJusticeFamily@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> My daughters bday is coming up in April & she has been asking for a
> bird. Does anyone have any suggestions on which sort of bird is good as
> a first pet bird for a kid. I dont want a big one!! But I do want one
> that we can take out of the cage & be able to hold! Any advice would be
> greatly appreciated!
> Crystina
>
It depends on how old your daughter is and if the whole family wants this
pet. Cockatiels or budgies make good first birds but no matter what bird you
get, you need to learn an awful lot about caring for it, and providing it
with plenty of time out of the cage, a large cage, toys, a proper quality
diet with fresh fruit and vegs. Also bear in mind that *all* birds are noisy
and make a mess with seed husks dropped all over the floor beneath the
cage.What will you do if the bird dosesn't like to be held? Also bear in
mind that all birds have a sharp beak and will use it on occasion.
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| Steve |
"Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Is she (and are you) aware that owning a bird can be a 20-40
> year (or even longer) commitment?
Why do you people say such ridiculous crap?
Next year well after the novelty wears off for the kid, and Dad is endlessly
annoyed with the noise, and Mom is tired of being the only one who takes
care of the thing, why should anyone think that they have to keep the bird?
Or maybe there is no "Dad" and Mom's job is eliminated and she has no choice
but to start saying "would you like the combo meal?" and can barely feed the
kids and pay the bills much less feed a bird appropriately. Or next week
the parents decide that they don't want anything to do with having a bird in
their house. Is it better for the bird to stay where it is merely tolerated
and allowed to exist, or would it be better for the bird to move on to a new
home?
Things change because "**** happens." There is nothing wrong with being
"committed" to the care of a pet when you acquire one and then having to
give up on that "commitment" for any reason in the future.
Ideally, every pet would live out a great life in a single home. But then
also ideally, I wouldn't have to come her and tell all the f*****g morons
that they are f*****g morons and the rest of you wouldn't have to get your
panties in a wad because of what I post.
But because we live in reality, ideal situations are not all that common.
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| Rick |
"Steve" <mstrjnx@htmail.complusvowels> wrote in message news:6ef0d98ec60248766a1c9de93c823130@news.teranews.com...
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> "Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:busagt$kfjh5$1@ID-82690.news.uni-berlin.de...
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> > Is she (and are you) aware that owning a bird can be a 20-40
> > year (or even longer) commitment?
>
> Why do you people say such ridiculous crap?
> Next year well after the novelty wears off for the kid, and Dad is endlessly
> annoyed with the noise, and Mom is tired of being the only one who takes
> care of the thing, why should anyone think that they have to keep the bird?
> Or maybe there is no "Dad" and Mom's job is eliminated and she has no choice
> but to start saying "would you like the combo meal?" and can barely feed the
> kids and pay the bills much less feed a bird appropriately. Or next week
> the parents decide that they don't want anything to do with having a bird in
> their house. Is it better for the bird to stay where it is merely tolerated
> and allowed to exist, or would it be better for the bird to move on to a new
> home?
I thought of my sister when I read your post.. She has an incredibly
beautiful keet she bought years ago as a pet for her son, and sure
enough a few months after buying it the son lost all interest. Now
this thing sits in a corner of their house, day after day, month after
month with virtually no interaction with any other living thing, human
or otherwise.
> Things change because "**** happens." There is nothing wrong with being
> "committed" to the care of a pet when you acquire one and then having to
> give up on that "commitment" for any reason in the future.
Both of those are fine. The problem is when animals are abused by
being stuck in the middle of those two situations. I've seen it
first-hand far too often.
> Ideally, every pet would live out a great life in a single home. But then
> also ideally, I wouldn't have to come her and tell all the f*****g morons
> that they are f*****g morons and the rest of you wouldn't have to get your
> panties in a wad because of what I post.
The only one here with his panties in a wad appears to be you.
> But because we live in reality, ideal situations are not all that common.
There's nothing wrong with reminding someone that bird ownership
is a long-term commitment, longer than with dogs or cats or almost
any other pet. Get over yourself.
Rick
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| Bob Blaylock |
In article <2676-4011A699-115@storefull-3357.bay.webtv.net>,
TheJusticeFamily@webtv.net (Crystina J) wrote:
> My daughters bday is coming up in April & she has been asking for a
> bird. Does anyone have any suggestions on which sort of bird is good as
> a first pet bird for a kid. I dont want a big one!! But I do want one
> that we can take out of the cage & be able to hold! Any advice would be
> greatly appreciated!
In my opinion, a ringneck dove would be an excellent choice. They are
inexpensive, and easy to care for. This is a bird that can be taken out
of its cage and held, if you are so inclined. In fact, my wife and I
usually leave our dove's cage open when we're home and alert, and let
the dove have the free run of our apartment. As I type this, he's
standing on my computer's monitor, enjoying the warmth therefrom.
While Avery (our dove) isn't exactly quiet, what noise he does make is
much less irritating than the noise that is typically made by
hookbill-type birds.
My wife and I never had a bird until a bit more than a year ago, and
never thought we'd want one before then. We didn't really choose Avery,
so much as he chose us. He showed up on our doorstep, cold and hungry
and injured; how could we possibly refuse to take him in? See my
account of this at this URL:
http://www.dovepage.com/cgi-dovepage/mb/306.shtml
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address. Remove the string "HatesSpam" from this email
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| Crystina J |
You know she may not be able to understand tha having a bird is a
lifelong commitment. But I do! I dont know much about birds EXCEPT that
they can be messy, noisy & probably outlive me! I took all this into
consideration before even posting a question about in this group. I
posted in here so that I would not jump the gun & buy the first bird I
see. I wanted opinions from people to see what sort of bird would for
work for me in a home with 2 kids, so I would not be left with a bird
who is doomed to spend its years trapped in a cage because it turned out
to be the sort of bird who likes to nibble on hands!. I want one that
will be compatible will us & will be able to have freedom to stretch it
wings about the house.
Its not just her that has interest in owning a bird.. I have always
wanted one myself, so even if the interest wears off with her I will
stil be there care for it & give it the attention these beautiful
animals deserve. So please, when you read my post dont jump to
conclusions about me & assume it will only be a phase that will be
thrown out like yesterdays trash.
I am very intersted & excited about the idea of having a pet in the
house any & all advice is greatly appreciated.
Crystina
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| jmcquown |
Crystina J wrote:
> You know she may not be able to understand tha having a bird is a
> lifelong commitment. But I do! I dont know much about birds EXCEPT
> that they can be messy, noisy & probably outlive me! I took all this
> into consideration before even posting a question about in this
> group. I posted in here so that I would not jump the gun & buy the
> first bird I see. I wanted opinions from people to see what sort of
> bird would for work for me in a home with 2 kids, so I would not be
> left with a bird who is doomed to spend its years trapped in a cage
> because it turned out to be the sort of bird who likes to nibble on
> hands!. I want one that will be compatible will us & will be able to
> have freedom to stretch it wings about the house.
> Its not just her that has interest in owning a bird.. I have always
> wanted one myself, so even if the interest wears off with her I will
> stil be there care for it & give it the attention these beautiful
> animals deserve. So please, when you read my post dont jump to
> conclusions about me & assume it will only be a phase that will be
> thrown out like yesterdays trash.
> I am very intersted & excited about the idea of having a pet in the
> house any & all advice is greatly appreciated.
> Crystina
Cyrstina, I didn't jump the gun. Don't know if you read my post or not; if
not, here it is:
My parents gave me my first parakeet when I was 6 years old. It was the
sweetest little bird. Not only did it teach me all about responsibility of
feeding, watering, cleaning the cage, it became my best friend. Be sure
your daughter knows not to have the bird out if the doors or windows are
open.
When my dad was transferred from NJ to CA, the bird made the trip in the car
across country without a fuss. (When we were later transferred overseas
when I was 9 years old, we gave the care of the 'keet over to my mom's
parents. They'd never had a pet before. They loved that bird!)
Parakeets are definitely friendly, easy to handle and tame if you get them
young. Some tips when picking a parakeet: make sure the stripes on the
forehead go all the way down to the cere (nose) - this indicates a really
young bird which is what you want. I never found much difference in paying
(okay, we're talking 12 years ago) $14.99 for a parakeet at a pet shop as
opposed to a $50 "hand raised" parakeet; if they are young enough they were
hand fed anyway and I never saw a difference.
Jill
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| John Hines |
"Steve" <mstrjnx@htmail.complusvowels> wrote:
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>"Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:busagt$kfjh5$1@ID-82690.news.uni-berlin.de...
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>> Is she (and are you) aware that owning a bird can be a 20-40
>> year (or even longer) commitment?
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>Why do you people say such ridiculous crap?
Could it be the story of the 114 yr old B&G macaw that has been going
around?
In general, the bigger the bird, the longer it lives. My goffin has a
life expectancy of 40 yrs, and is on the low end of too's. Strangely
enough, it is the small end of size as well.
That said, back to the OP, a cockatiel, especially a female (like a
pearl or other sex link color mutation) is a wonderful first bird. Life
expectancy in the 15-20 yr range.
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| Momma Soke' |
> My wife and I never had a bird until a bit more than a year ago, and
> never thought we'd want one before then. We didn't really choose Avery,
> so much as he chose us. He showed up on our doorstep, cold and hungry
> and injured; how could we possibly refuse to take him in? See my
> account of this at this URL:
>
> http://www.dovepage.com/cgi-dovepage/mb/306.shtml
>
Sounds remarkably like my story! I started with a pigeon from K-mart (feral
rescue) and now have another pigeon (lame racing homer and companion
pigeon), a painted conure and a bronze wing pionus. Funny how the little
buggers grown on you isn't it? Who knew!!! *LOL*
As far as a first bird, I'd give your daughter the opportunity to choose the
bird for herself with the gift being the "you get it" aspect. I got my
husband the painted for his birthday and explained to him early on that he
had to choose it because I wasn't going to be responsible for picking it
for him. Heck, I wouldn't even have chosen me for a wife and he's stuck
with me all these years, no accounting for what people fall for (or what
falls for you... I've heard a great deal of stories about birds choosing
their owners!). Anyway, involving her in the decision of the type and the
individual bird would introduce her to the importance of research before
bringing 'baby' home and also expose her to a lot of the care involved in
being owned by a bird. She might decide after reading about birds a little
that she'd rather have a rabbit. Course she might just go for a Macaw or
something too *LOL* Anyway, every time I've gotten a critter for one of my
kids, they have to research it with me and help me to choose it, that way we
*all* know what were getting into.
Ma
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| High Flight |
Rick <me@privacy.net> says...
> Is she (and are you) aware that owning a bird can be a 20-40
> year (or even longer) commitment?
That's just not true. Circumstances can change. And if and when they do,
the commitment ends when you find the bird another loving home.
Jack
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| Rick |
"High Flight" <jac@apk.net> wrote in message news:10156cgmg4l4f51@corp.supernews.com...
> Rick <me@privacy.net> says...
> > Is she (and are you) aware that owning a bird can be a 20-40
> > year (or even longer) commitment?
>
> That's just not true. Circumstances can change. And if and when they do,
> the commitment ends when you find the bird another loving home.
I'm amazed to be getting this kind of feedback, especially here,
and especially in an era where millions of unwanted pets are
destroyed every year in this country like so much garbage.
I didn't say owning a bird will be a 20-40 year commitment,
I said it CAN be a 20-40 year commitment. It was just a
friendly reminder to this lady and her daughter, that's all.
Rick
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| Wheeler |
Problem as I see it Rick is there are not millions of pets being destroyed
every year in the US, not bird pets at least. For some we take a longer
term commitment to our companion pets, others do not. Stuff happens and
folks need to rationalize their decisions to end that relationship with the
once loving pet.
Bob W
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"Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> "High Flight" <jac@apk.net> wrote in message
news:10156cgmg4l4f51@corp.supernews.com...
> > Rick <me@privacy.net> says...
> > > Is she (and are you) aware that owning a bird can be a 20-40
> > > year (or even longer) commitment?
> >
> > That's just not true. Circumstances can change. And if and when they
do,
> > the commitment ends when you find the bird another loving home.
>
> I'm amazed to be getting this kind of feedback, especially here,
> and especially in an era where millions of unwanted pets are
> destroyed every year in this country like so much garbage.
>
> I didn't say owning a bird will be a 20-40 year commitment,
> I said it CAN be a 20-40 year commitment. It was just a
> friendly reminder to this lady and her daughter, that's all.
>
> Rick
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| Mean Guy |
Hello Steve
What kind of bird did you recomend again LOL?
Any way Good Morning
Steve Crouched into the killing position and blurted out the following
I wouldn't have to come her and tell all the f*****g morons
> that they are f*****g morons and the rest of you wouldn't have to get your
> panties in a wad because of what I post.
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| oldmolly |
Rick wrote:
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> The only one here with his panties in a wad appears to be you.
>
Shhhhh. They aren't his panties. That's why he's crabby. He borrowed
his girlfriend's and the lace irritates his groin summat chronic :0)
Alright there Jynxie?? :0)
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| Steve |
"Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> There's nothing wrong with reminding someone that bird ownership
> is a long-term commitment, longer than with dogs or cats or almost
> any other pet. Get over yourself.
>
> Rick
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>
It's NOT a long-term commitment or any kind of commitment.
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Steve
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| Rick |
"Steve" <mstrjnx@htmail.complusvowels> wrote in message news:5e68813ae427bd4b57e5c9cc174c05fd@news.teranews.com...
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> "Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:busq7e$la672$1@ID-82690.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > There's nothing wrong with reminding someone that bird ownership
> > is a long-term commitment, longer than with dogs or cats or almost
> > any other pet. Get over yourself.
>
> It's NOT a long-term commitment or any kind of commitment.
Great attitude. Do you also beat your dog?
Rick
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| Helix |
"Crystina J" <TheJusticeFamily@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:2680-40120328-132@storefull-3353.bay.webtv.net...
> You know she may not be able to understand tha having a bird is a
> lifelong commitment. But I do! I dont know much about birds EXCEPT that
> they can be messy, noisy & probably outlive me! I took all this into
> consideration before even posting a question about in this group. I
> posted in here so that I would not jump the gun & buy the first bird I
> see. I wanted opinions from people to see what sort of bird would for
> work for me in a home with 2 kids, so I would not be left with a bird
> who is doomed to spend its years trapped in a cage because it turned out
> to be the sort of bird who likes to nibble on hands!. I want one that
> will be compatible will us & will be able to have freedom to stretch it
> wings about the house.
> Its not just her that has interest in owning a bird.. I have always
> wanted one myself, so even if the interest wears off with her I will
> stil be there care for it & give it the attention these beautiful
> animals deserve. So please, when you read my post dont jump to
> conclusions about me & assume it will only be a phase that will be
> thrown out like yesterdays trash.
> I am very intersted & excited about the idea of having a pet in the
> house any & all advice is greatly appreciated.
> Crystina
>
Cocketiels are a great first bird. They are a great bird for even the most
experienced bird-person. I myself prefer the males. They seem less cranky,
have better chances of being a 'talker', and they dont lay eggs!
And then there are budgies! These little feathered ones have personalities
+++. Again, I prefer the males.
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| Bob Blaylock |
TheJusticeFamily@webtv.net (Crystina J) wrote in message news:<2680-40120328-132@storefull-3353.bay.webtv.net>...
> You know she may not be able to understand tha having a bird is a
> I wanted opinions from people to see what sort of bird would for
> work for me in a home with 2 kids, so I would not be left with a bird
> who is doomed to spend its years trapped in a cage because it turned out
> to be the sort of bird who likes to nibble on hands!. I want one that
> will be compatible will us & will be able to have freedom to stretch it
> wings about the house.
I'll repeat my earlier recommendation that you consider a ringneck
dove. It's a very easy bird to take care of, and a very easy bird to
live with; not prone to biting nor to making horrid screeching noises
as hookbills are wont to do. My wife and I let our ringneck dove out
of his cage, to have the run of the apartment, when we're home and
alert enough to supervise him and the cat to make sure that one
doesn't end up eating the other.
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| Steve |
"Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> "Steve" <mstrjnx@htmail.complusvowels> wrote in message
news:5e68813ae427bd4b57e5c9cc174c05fd@news.teranews.com...
> >
> > "Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> > news:busq7e$la672$1@ID-82690.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > >
> > > There's nothing wrong with reminding someone that bird ownership
> > > is a long-term commitment, longer than with dogs or cats or almost
> > > any other pet. Get over yourself.
> >
> > It's NOT a long-term commitment or any kind of commitment.
>
> Great attitude. Do you also beat your dog?
>
> Rick
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>
According to you, I know that bird ownership is not a lifetime commitment
therefore I must also be physically abusive to animals.
What sense does that make?
Since you believe so much that bird ownership is a lifetime commitment,
please explain why it is, not why it should be but why it is. Keep in mind
all the "second hand" birds that are out there and explain how they can even
exist when owning them is a lifetime commitment.
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Steve
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| thehouse@pooh.corner |
On 26 Jan 2004 23:20:51 -0800, BobHatesSpam@Blaylock.to (Bob
Blaylock) wrote:
><(((*> I'll repeat my earlier recommendation that you consider a ringneck
><(((*> dove. It's a very easy bird to take care of, and a very easy bird to
><(((*> live with; not prone to biting nor to making horrid screeching noises
><(((*> as hookbills are wont to do. My wife and I let our ringneck dove out
><(((*> of his cage, to have the run of the apartment, when we're home and
><(((*> alert enough to supervise him and the cat to make sure that one
><(((*> doesn't end up eating the other.
When my cockatoo and cat are out at the same time, I have to
supervise to make sure the bird doesn't go after the cat.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| Momma Soke' |
<thehouse@pooh.corner> wrote in message
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> On 26 Jan 2004 23:20:51 -0800, BobHatesSpam@Blaylock.to (Bob
> Blaylock) wrote:
>
> ><(((*> of his cage, to have the run of the apartment, when we're home and
> ><(((*> alert enough to supervise him and the cat to make sure that one
> ><(((*> doesn't end up eating the other.
>
> When my cockatoo and cat are out at the same time, I have to
> supervise to make sure the bird doesn't go after the cat.
>
We have to watch our pigeon to make sure she doesn't terrorize the dog.
Poor thing used to be able to run upstairs but now the pigeon's figured out
the steps so the only safe place is on a bed.
Ma
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| Louis Boyd |
Wheeler wrote:
> Problem as I see it Rick is there are not millions of pets being destroyed
> every year in the US, not bird pets at least. For some we take a longer
> term commitment to our companion pets, others do not. Stuff happens and
> folks need to rationalize their decisions to end that relationship with the
> once loving pet.
>
> Bob W
Consider that the vast majority of birds which people bring home are
already dead and spend only a couple of days in the house before being
eaten, parrots generally have it pretty good. Unfortunately the don't
always appreciate it.
Don't buy a bird to be a "first bird". Get one to be your companion for
a long time. I'd recommend a conure, amazon, or cag but mostly select
one because YOU LIKE EACH OTHER. Meet quite a few birds just as you'd
meet a lot of people before you choose a spouse. You'll know when you
find the right one. What species or color matters very little compared
to how it behaves with you. Finally, if you don't KNOW you really want
to live with a bird my advice is to just forget it. Birds are rewarding
companions if you have time and patience to be a bird's "flock mate".
If not they're likely to just be a screaming biting beast.
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Lou Boyd
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I have a cat and a cockatoo, also. It's funny because my cat is very
intimidated by the bird. But every now and then, she'll forget and rub
up against the cockatoo while their both playing on the floor. It's
really cute. But they definitely see each other as peers.
thehouse@pooh.corner wrote:
> On 26 Jan 2004 23:20:51 -0800, BobHatesSpam@Blaylock.to (Bob
> Blaylock) wrote:
>
>
>><(((*> I'll repeat my earlier recommendation that you consider a ringneck
>><(((*> dove. It's a very easy bird to take care of, and a very easy bird to
>><(((*> live with; not prone to biting nor to making horrid screeching noises
>><(((*> as hookbills are wont to do. My wife and I let our ringneck dove out
>><(((*> of his cage, to have the run of the apartment, when we're home and
>><(((*> alert enough to supervise him and the cat to make sure that one
>><(((*> doesn't end up eating the other.
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> When my cockatoo and cat are out at the same time, I have to
> supervise to make sure the bird doesn't go after the cat.
>
> Tara J. Ballance
> Montreal, Canada
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Steve, I can see your point here. I am aware that I might one day have
to give up my bird, so I do everything possible to keep her
well-adjusted and healthy. That way if I have to let her go, someone
will actually want her. I do everything I possibly can to make sure we
stay together, but I know that it just doesn't always work out.
Steve wrote:
> "Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:buvh88$lv4vr$1@ID-82690.news.uni-berlin.de...
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>>"Steve" <mstrjnx@htmail.complusvowels> wrote in message
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> news:5e68813ae427bd4b57e5c9cc174c05fd@news.teranews.com...
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>>>"Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>news:busq7e$la672$1@ID-82690.news.uni-berlin.de...
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>>>>There's nothing wrong with reminding someone that bird ownership
>>>>is a long-term commitment, longer than with dogs or cats or almost
>>>>any other pet. Get over yourself.
>>>
>>>It's NOT a long-term commitment or any kind of commitment.
>>
>>Great attitude. Do you also beat your dog?
>>
>>Rick
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> According to you, I know that bird ownership is not a lifetime commitment
> therefore I must also be physically abusive to animals.
> What sense does that make?
>
> Since you believe so much that bird ownership is a lifetime commitment,
> please explain why it is, not why it should be but why it is. Keep in mind
> all the "second hand" birds that are out there and explain how they can even
> exist when owning them is a lifetime commitment.
>
>
> --
> Steve
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| I just wanted to tell you that I just got a parrottlet. I just adore it. But they are expensvie. But once the bird no's your daughter is the owner of it , it will love her. I got a female but I sugest a male that has been hand feed. There is alot of care to them and they need alot of toys. They need one on one time at least two hours a day is what I would suggest. How old is your daughter? You might have to help her care for this type of bird as far as food ideas they like people food and you may even want to do some research on them.. I also have two cockatiels. I would suggest if you want one to talk to get a male and keep in mind if you try to mate them. They fall in love and there attuide does change until the female is gone. I have a white face cock and he is so loveing until he has bonded with a female now he protects her and doesnt care to much about me. Well I hope you good luck with what you dicide to get. I'm in KY but I was raised in MI. In a little place called Walled Lake ever heard of it. Good Luck |
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