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WriderGal
Banding may be a good resource for finding your bird if it is lost, but it
won't help if the bird is stolen. The thief who took my bird simply cut off the
band.
jmcquown
WriderGal wrote:
> Banding may be a good resource for finding your bird if it is lost,
> but it won't help if the bird is stolen. The thief who took my bird
> simply cut off the band.


True enough. And the band on my lovebird didn't even give her birthdate;
just a breeders mark which means little since the bird wasn't bred in
Tennessee. The band also bothered Peaches to the point where she was
feather plucking all around it when she tried to yank it off her leg. She's
a young lovebird. Might mean something to other breeders, I suppose.

Jill


Marco

"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> True enough. And the band on my lovebird didn't even give her birthdate;
> just a breeders mark which means little since the bird wasn't bred in
> Tennessee.


That's the standard info on a leg band: just letters and numbers. No bands
that I know of contains the bird's HATCH date, except maybe for the year .
Bands are ordered ahead of time... there's no way of knowing when a bird
will hatch or how many.

*sigh*

--
~Marco~
"Shoot'er Wardell, Shoot'er in the head!"
-Brother Boy
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Steve

"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> WriderGal wrote:
> > Banding may be a good resource for finding your bird if it is lost,
> > but it won't help if the bird is stolen. The thief who took my bird
> > simply cut off the band.

>
> True enough. And the band on my lovebird didn't even give her birthdate;


Why should it?

> just a breeders mark which means little since the bird wasn't bred in
> Tennessee.


and if the bird had been bred in Tennesse, the information on the band would
be invaluable?

> The band also bothered Peaches to the point where she was
> feather plucking all around it when she tried to yank it off her leg.


Your bird has feathers on the lower pat of it's leg?

> She's
> a young lovebird. Might mean something to other breeders, I suppose.
>
> Jill


Why would anyone bother to put any information on a leg band unless it had
some use to someone?


--
Steve


jmcquown
Marco wrote:
> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:Uc7Qb.42401$2L6.40662@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
>
>> True enough. And the band on my lovebird didn't even give her
>> birthdate; just a breeders mark which means little since the bird
>> wasn't bred in Tennessee.

>
> That's the standard info on a leg band: just letters and numbers. No
> bands that I know of contains the bird's HATCH date, except maybe for
> the year . Bands are ordered ahead of time... there's no way of
> knowing when a bird will hatch or how many.
>
> *sigh*


The vet who removed the band told me it meant virtually nothing. And it was
bothering her, she was plucking feathers down by her leg. We all know
that's a bad habit for a bird to get into. She's much happier now without
the band and the feathers are growing back in nicely.

When I had her at the vet, she had a "blood feather" on one of her wings but
it hadn't broken so the vet advised leave it be. It fell out (or she
plucked it) a few days later; no incidents there.

Jill


Marco

"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> The vet who removed the band told me it meant virtually nothing. And it

was
> bothering her, she was plucking feathers down by her leg. We all know
> that's a bad habit for a bird to get into. She's much happier now without
> the band and the feathers are growing back in nicely.


First, I want to clarify that I don't give a rat's ass if you had the band
removed or not. It is your personal decision, BUT since you are somewhat
ignorant in the reasons and meanings and uses of leg bands, here are some
links you might want to read:
http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww5eiii.htm
http://www.internationalparrotletsociety.org/about.html
http://aviary.info/parrot/custom/disp2.asp
http://www.api4animals.org/326.htm
http://www.birdmag.com/lawsoverview.htm

--
~Marco~
"Shoot'er Wardell, Shoot'er in the head!"
-Brother Boy
----------------------
chuck-underscore-marco-at-bellsouth-dot-net


Onorio Catenacci
jmcquown wrote:
> WriderGal wrote:
>
>>Banding may be a good resource for finding your bird if it is lost,
>>but it won't help if the bird is stolen. The thief who took my bird
>>simply cut off the band.

>
>
> True enough. And the band on my lovebird didn't even give her birthdate;
> just a breeders mark which means little since the bird wasn't bred in
> Tennessee. The band also bothered Peaches to the point where she was
> feather plucking all around it when she tried to yank it off her leg. She's
> a young lovebird. Might mean something to other breeders, I suppose.
>
> Jill
>
>

I cannot speak to the subject of the bands that caged bird fanciers use
but pigeon fanciers have year dated bands (each band has the year
stamped on it). There's a simple reason for this. It allows us to get
a general idea of how old a bird is. A pigeon that's more than 1 year
old is considered "old" and a pigeon born within the current year is
considered "young". When one is competing the birds it's a little
unfair to compare a bird that's had a chance to fully mature to a
possibly immature bird. Of course, the bands for the year are not
issued until very close to the 1st of the year--2004 bands arrived at my
loft on 12/26/03.

As far as a "breeders mark"...well, I would expect that the folks who
sell the band keep a record of which mark was issued to whom. This can
help one to track down the original breeder of the animal should that
become necessary. Also, having an identifying band is helpful when a
breeder is trying to keep track of vaccinations, medications and issues
like that. You sound as if you have one bird--when one has 20 or 30
birds to deal with, it's a lot harder to distinguish one from the other
without a band or some other unique identifier.

--
Onorio Catenacci
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> jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:Uc7Qb.42401$2L6.40662@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
>
> > True enough. And the band on my lovebird didn't even give her
> > birthdate;
> > just a breeders mark which means little since the bird wasn't bred in
> > Tennessee.


The information carried on a ring is primarily for the benefit of the
breeder.
It is usually just initials and a number. The breeder has all his/her
records
and can translate that number into hatchdate, parents, bloodline etc.
Rings have to be purchased in advance and it is pretty dumb putting dates
on them, having them expire and having to be junked as a result.
Nobody rings babies with the intention that the information on the ring
would be of any possible use to a future owner, other than being able
to return to the breeder to get background on a specific bird.
Rings are only dangerous if too big or too small. In over 50 years of
breeding and ringing all species from pigeons to parrots, canaries to
caiques, I have never had to remove a ring because it was a danger or an
irritant to the bird. In most cases, a money grubbing Vet convinces
an overanxious pet-owner that it is necessary when that very rarely is
the case.

V.
John Hines
Onorio Catenacci <NoSpam@NoSpam.NoWay> wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>> WriderGal wrote:
>>
>>>Banding may be a good resource for finding your bird if it is lost,
>>>but it won't help if the bird is stolen. The thief who took my bird
>>>simply cut off the band.

>>
>>
>> True enough. And the band on my lovebird didn't even give her birthdate;
>> just a breeders mark which means little since the bird wasn't bred in
>> Tennessee. The band also bothered Peaches to the point where she was
>> feather plucking all around it when she tried to yank it off her leg. She's
>> a young lovebird. Might mean something to other breeders, I suppose.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>

>I cannot speak to the subject of the bands that caged bird fanciers use
>but pigeon fanciers have year dated bands (each band has the year
>stamped on it). There's a simple reason for this. It allows us to get
>a general idea of how old a bird is


I've had finches, where they were banded with different colors each
year, so you could tell how old, and who was the parents and who where
the kids. No id, just a colored band.

>A pigeon that's more than 1 year
>old is considered "old" and a pigeon born within the current year is
>considered "young". When one is competing the birds it's a little
>unfair to compare a bird that's had a chance to fully mature to a
>possibly immature bird.


With pigeons and the competition and travel and such, it would be really
hard to sort out who's who with out bands. Not to mention it makes clear
who is domesticated and who is feral.




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