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| Manik Raina |
Perhaps this question has been beated to death already but i wanted to know
your opinion in the following matter...
* Should one clip budgie wings a little when starting to train them ? my
budgies have been with me for a few weeks and are already used to the place
but are not so comfortable with human handling, especially in the mornings.
There are two of them.
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| oldmolly |
"Manik Raina" <manikraina@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Perhaps this question has been beated to death already but i wanted to
know
> your opinion in the following matter...
>
> * Should one clip budgie wings a little when starting to train them ? my
> budgies have been with me for a few weeks and are already used to the
place
> but are not so comfortable with human handling, especially in the
mornings.
> There are two of them.
There is no 'should' about it. In my own personal opinion, birds which are
shaped like feathered rockets are *made* to fly. If you can handle your
birds, and they are easy to put back in the cage I would say leave them be.
You will have immense pleasure in watching their aerial acrobatics and they
will chirp loud from the sheer joy of flying. Here in UK it is almost
unheard of to deprive a bird of flight .I used to keep parent reared untame
budgies years ago. I always had several of them. They were always allowed to
fly freely about as the cage door was never closed. Although they were not
huggable they would happily land on heads, shoulders hands and do everything
you would want from a pet bird. I had more pleasure in watching my birds fly
about the living room, landing here, taking off, sitting on my head,
stealing salad from my plate etc, than I would a miserable little bird with
no wing feathers, deprived of the very thing nature designed him to do so
well and not being able to do anything other than sit where he is put, like
a living feathered ornament :-(
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| Alison |
Hi Pam ,
I agree with you. I know it's important for budgies to get used to
being handled for nail clipping etc but I don't think its important
they huggable.
Alison
"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.com> wrote in message
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>
> "> There is no 'should' about it. In my own personal opinion, birds
which are
> shaped like feathered rockets are *made* to fly. If you can handle
your
> birds, and they are easy to put back in the cage I would say leave
them be.
> You will have immense pleasure in watching their aerial acrobatics
and they
> will chirp loud from the sheer joy of flying. Here in UK it is
almost
> unheard of to deprive a bird of flight .I used to keep parent reared
untame
> budgies years ago. I always had several of them. They were always
allowed to
> fly freely about as the cage door was never closed. Although they
were not
> huggable they would happily land on heads, shoulders hands and do
everything
> you would want from a pet bird. I had more pleasure in watching my
birds fly
> about the living room, landing here, taking off, sitting on my head,
> stealing salad from my plate etc, than I would a miserable little
bird with
> no wing feathers, deprived of the very thing nature designed him to
do so
> well and not being able to do anything other than sit where he is
put, like
> a living feathered ornament :-(
>
>
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| pianoharp |
"Manik Raina" <manikraina@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47a3db28.0401192154.4990064f@posting.google.com...
Perhaps this question has been beated to death already but i wanted to know
your opinion in the following matter...
* Should one clip budgie wings a little when starting to train them ? my
budgies have been with me for a few weeks and are already used to the place
but are not so comfortable with human handling, especially in the mornings.
There are two of them.
Many are for the clipping of wings, but I always found it hard to watch them
fall. I mean, they flap and flap and flap all the way to the ground. My
lovebird did that until I stopped clipping hers. Then she'd sit there and
peep, waiting to be picked up. I think she knew I'm blind and couldn't see
her. I've read how the fear of falling is a bird's greatest fear and so
would always spend time comforting her after that happened. I wasn't much
of a trainer, though, I just tend to see that my birds just enjoy
themselves.
- pianoharp
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| pianoharp |
"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.com> wrote in message
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"Manik Raina" <manikraina@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47a3db28.0401192154.4990064f@posting.google.com...
> Perhaps this question has been beated to death already but i wanted to
know
> your opinion in the following matter...
>
> * Should one clip budgie wings a little when starting to train them ? my
> budgies have been with me for a few weeks and are already used to the
place
> but are not so comfortable with human handling, especially in the
mornings.
> There are two of them.
There is no 'should' about it. In my own personal opinion, birds which are
shaped like feathered rockets are *made* to fly. If you can handle your
birds, and they are easy to put back in the cage I would say leave them be.
You will have immense pleasure in watching their aerial acrobatics and they
will chirp loud from the sheer joy of flying. Here in UK it is almost
unheard of to deprive a bird of flight .I used to keep parent reared untame
budgies years ago. I always had several of them. They were always allowed to
fly freely about as the cage door was never closed. Although they were not
huggable they would happily land on heads, shoulders hands and do everything
you would want from a pet bird. I had more pleasure in watching my birds fly
about the living room, landing here, taking off, sitting on my head,
stealing salad from my plate etc, than I would a miserable little bird with
no wing feathers, deprived of the very thing nature designed him to do so
well and not being able to do anything other than sit where he is put, like
a living feathered ornament :-(
Agreed wholeheartedly. I even saw a canary with clipped wings once! If you
pick up a bird with clipped wings, you'll notice that the feathers that are
cut are all sharp and stuff instead of soft. When I was in college, we used
to put signs on our birds' cages that said: "Uncircumcised birds live
here!"
As to what they'll do that depends on the bird. Even when Koto, my
lovebird, grew her flight feathers all she wanted to do all day was ride
around on my shoulder. Of course Handel, my canary, isn't clipped. But
there are good reasons why some people do it. Probably more so if they have
a lot of birds. When I went out of town on business, Koto flew away. My
fault because she was a lovebird and they say when you get one, they are
one-person birds. She always only wanted me, nobody else in the house.
She'd have never flown away if I was there. I don't attribute her flight /
taking off to her having wings; it was my fault for not doing enough
research on lovebird personality before I got her. She was just trying to
do what she always does; to go find me.
Just some rambling thoughts,
- pianoharp
- If ignorance is bliss,
why aren't more people smiling?
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| Owly |
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can't fly feel."
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"oldmolly" <oldmolly@members.v21.com> wrote in message
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> "Manik Raina" <manikraina@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47a3db28.0401192154.4990064f@posting.google.com...
> > Perhaps this question has been beated to death already but i wanted to
> know
> > your opinion in the following matter...
> >
> > * Should one clip budgie wings a little when starting to train them ? my
> > budgies have been with me for a few weeks and are already used to the
> place
> > but are not so comfortable with human handling, especially in the
> mornings.
> > There are two of them.
>
> There is no 'should' about it. In my own personal opinion, birds which
are
> shaped like feathered rockets are *made* to fly. If you can handle your
> birds, and they are easy to put back in the cage I would say leave them
be.
> You will have immense pleasure in watching their aerial acrobatics and
they
> will chirp loud from the sheer joy of flying. Here in UK it is almost
> unheard of to deprive a bird of flight .I used to keep parent reared
untame
> budgies years ago. I always had several of them. They were always allowed
to
> fly freely about as the cage door was never closed. Although they were not
> huggable they would happily land on heads, shoulders hands and do
everything
> you would want from a pet bird. I had more pleasure in watching my birds
fly
> about the living room, landing here, taking off, sitting on my head,
> stealing salad from my plate etc, than I would a miserable little bird
with
> no wing feathers, deprived of the very thing nature designed him to do so
> well and not being able to do anything other than sit where he is put,
like
> a living feathered ornament :-(
>
>
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| Alex Clayton |
"Manik Raina" <manikraina@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47a3db28.0401192154.4990064f@posting.google.com...
> Perhaps this question has been beated to death already but i wanted to
know
> your opinion in the following matter...
>
> * Should one clip budgie wings a little when starting to train them ? my
> budgies have been with me for a few weeks and are already used to the
place
> but are not so comfortable with human handling, especially in the
mornings.
> There are two of them.
They can be tamed without clipping. They will most likely never be as cuddly
as a hand fed bird, but with lots of work they can be tamed.
As to clipping, it is great to let birds have free flight, especially
small birds. They are very adept at making their way around in a house, BUT,
and here comes the BIG warning. If the bird EVER gets out you will most
likely NEVER see it alive again. So you have to make a judgment call.
My BCC and Tiel are flighted right now, come spring they will both loose the
ability. It is fun watching them fly to us and zoom around now and then, but
when the weather turns nice and people are coming going I don't trust fate.
If your sure you can keep them safe, small birds do fine flighted in doors.
--
"A committee is a life form with six or more legs and no brain"
[Lazarus Long]
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| pianoharp |
"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Manik Raina" <manikraina@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47a3db28.0401192154.4990064f@posting.google.com...
> Perhaps this question has been beated to death already but i wanted to
know
> your opinion in the following matter...
>
> * Should one clip budgie wings a little when starting to train them ? my
> budgies have been with me for a few weeks and are already used to the
place
> but are not so comfortable with human handling, especially in the
mornings.
> There are two of them.
They can be tamed without clipping. They will most likely never be as cuddly
as a hand fed bird, but with lots of work they can be tamed.
As to clipping, it is great to let birds have free flight, especially
small birds. They are very adept at making their way around in a house, BUT,
and here comes the BIG warning. If the bird EVER gets out you will most
likely NEVER see it alive again. So you have to make a judgment call.
My BCC and Tiel are flighted right now, come spring they will both loose the
ability. It is fun watching them fly to us and zoom around now and then, but
when the weather turns nice and people are coming going I don't trust fate.
If your sure you can keep them safe, small birds do fine flighted in doors.
--
"A committee is a life form with six or more legs and no brain"
[Lazarus Long]
I guess on the same vein, I've always left mine unclipped. If they ever did
get out unnoticed, it would be better that they could get into a tree high
up off the ground where cats, dogs and kids can't get them. I know that's
how I lost my Lovebird, and still wonder about her survival, but as I'm in a
very warm climate right now, I think she will do fine getting food. Of
course, I'd rather still have her, but if she'd gotten away somehow with
clipped wings, which I have heard of, and wasn't seen or caught, it's
curtains for sure! I held Koto all the time, because I knew from first-hand
experience that she had a beak and could use it! She never drew blood but
did bite a button in half once. I never hand-tame canaries, because flight
is their only defense. I've never lost a canary, thank God!, as they
wouldn't survive I think. Budgies, if I remember, can use their beaks to
defend themselves. I had a couple once a long time ago. I think everyone's
perspective is different, some of us train birds, others do more in-house
birdwatching perhaps ... both perspectives are valid.
- pianoharp
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| oldmolly |
"Owly" <owly@email.com> wrote in message
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> When my little girl came out of remission last spring and was in a
> wheelchair again, she said to me once, "Mom, now I know how those birds
who
> can't fly feel."
> --
<filling up with tears> Bless her, the little love.
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