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| Peter Wastholm |
On Thursday 15 January 2004 23:30, R wrote:
> He gave him a clean bill of health but there were a few problems. Both his
> wings had been clipped very badly, he has no tail due to sliding down the
Okay, now I'm curious. I clip my cockatoos' wings myself, and I wasn't
really aware that it could be done "badly." I use a claw-trimmer designed
for use on cats to clip one feather at a time, and I leave the three or
four or so innermost and outermost feathers on each wing (mostly for
aesthetic reasons), plus at least one feather on either side of any blood
feather (to protect it).
I've been doing this for years and I haven't noticed any problems. The birds
can still fly, kind of, but only in a more or less straight line and only
short distances.
Based on this admittedly sketchy description, does anyone reckon I should be
doing something differently? I'll talk to my real-life parrot-nut friends
as well...
Regards,
/Peter
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| R |
"Peter Wastholm" <peter@wastholm.next> wrote in message
news:bu8ato$akt$1@yggdrasil.glocalnet.com...
> On Thursday 15 January 2004 23:30, R wrote:
>
> > He gave him a clean bill of health but there were a few problems. Both
his
> > wings had been clipped very badly, he has no tail due to sliding down
the
>
> Okay, now I'm curious. I clip my cockatoos' wings myself, and I wasn't
> really aware that it could be done "badly." I use a claw-trimmer designed
> for use on cats to clip one feather at a time, and I leave the three or
> four or so innermost and outermost feathers on each wing (mostly for
> aesthetic reasons), plus at least one feather on either side of any blood
> feather (to protect it).
>
> I've been doing this for years and I haven't noticed any problems. The
birds
> can still fly, kind of, but only in a more or less straight line and only
> short distances.
>
> Based on this admittedly sketchy description, does anyone reckon I should
be
> doing something differently? I'll talk to my real-life parrot-nut friends
> as well...
>
> Regards,
> /Peter
The wings looked like they were cut with a blunt pair of scissors.
Ray
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| Alex Clayton |
"Peter Wastholm" <peter@wastholm.next> wrote in message
news:bu8ato$akt$1@yggdrasil.glocalnet.com...
> On Thursday 15 January 2004 23:30, R wrote:
>
> > He gave him a clean bill of health but there were a few problems. Both
his
> > wings had been clipped very badly, he has no tail due to sliding down
the
>
> Okay, now I'm curious. I clip my cockatoos' wings myself, and I wasn't
> really aware that it could be done "badly." I use a claw-trimmer designed
> for use on cats to clip one feather at a time, and I leave the three or
> four or so innermost and outermost feathers on each wing (mostly for
> aesthetic reasons), plus at least one feather on either side of any blood
> feather (to protect it).
>
> I've been doing this for years and I haven't noticed any problems. The
birds
> can still fly, kind of, but only in a more or less straight line and only
> short distances.
>
> Based on this admittedly sketchy description, does anyone reckon I should
be
> doing something differently? I'll talk to my real-life parrot-nut friends
> as well...
>
> Regards,
> /Peter
Sounds like your doing fine. With our birds the only thing we are after is
we want the bird not to be able to take off outside, but be able to fall
softly if they come off their cage. It's hard to get right with the Tiel
some times we take a little at a time, with the Macaw it's just a matter of
clipping 4 primaries on each side.
--
"A committee is a life form with six or more legs and no brain"
[Lazarus Long]
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| jmcquown |
Peter Wastholm wrote:
> On Thursday 15 January 2004 23:30, R wrote:
>
>> He gave him a clean bill of health but there were a few problems.
>> Both his wings had been clipped very badly
(snip)
> Okay, now I'm curious. I clip my cockatoos' wings myself, and I wasn't
> really aware that it could be done "badly."
> Regards,
> /Peter
I took Peaches the lovebird to the vet because she had been banded and the
band was bugging her. She had started tugging at it and generally worrying
at it. She'd started feather plucking around the top of that leg. Oh no,
must nip that in the bud! He concurred with my assessment and removed the
band, which isn't required unless a bird is imported.
When the vet examined her he said her wings had been badly clipped. He
guessed when she was being hand fed and got to the point of fledging, the
breeder simply clipped the flight wings sort of willy-nilly; not straight
across. So yes, apparently it can be badly done.
Jill
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| oldmolly |
"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> I took Peaches the lovebird to the vet because she had been banded and the
> band was bugging her. She had started tugging at it and generally
worrying
> at it. She'd started feather plucking around the top of that leg. Oh no,
> must nip that in the bud! He concurred with my assessment and removed the
> band, which isn't required unless a bird is imported.
Actually it is a valuable method of identification should you lose your
bird.
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| Bob Withers |
In article <40096427@news.greennet.net>, oldmolly@members.v21.com
says...
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> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:kVZNb.7157$0t4.1431@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> >
> > I took Peaches the lovebird to the vet because she had been banded and the
> > band was bugging her. She had started tugging at it and generally
> worrying
> > at it. She'd started feather plucking around the top of that leg. Oh no,
> > must nip that in the bud! He concurred with my assessment and removed the
> > band, which isn't required unless a bird is imported.
>
> Actually it is a valuable method of identification should you lose your
> bird.
The breeder I deal with refuses to band. She has told me of a number of
incidents where problems have resulted from bands including:
o thieves actually breaking a bird's foot to remove the band.
o birds getting the band caught on something and injuring themselves.
She tells me that if you are interested in being able to identify your
bird that microchipping is far superior to banding.
Bob
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| oldmolly |
"Bob Withers" <bwit@spamout.pobox.com> wrote in message
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> In article <40096427@news.greennet.net>, oldmolly@members.v21.com
> says...
> >
> > "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:kVZNb.7157$0t4.1431@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> > >
> > > I took Peaches the lovebird to the vet because she had been banded and
the
> > > band was bugging her. She had started tugging at it and generally
> > worrying
> > > at it. She'd started feather plucking around the top of that leg. Oh
no,
> > > must nip that in the bud! He concurred with my assessment and removed
the
> > > band, which isn't required unless a bird is imported.
> >
> > Actually it is a valuable method of identification should you lose your
> > bird.
>
> The breeder I deal with refuses to band. She has told me of a number of
> incidents where problems have resulted from bands including:
>
> o thieves actually breaking a bird's foot to remove the band.
They would have to amputate the foot to do that and what use would a daed
or injured bird be to a thief? It has no resale value then. I think your
breeder made it up to justify why she doesn't band.
> o birds getting the band caught on something and injuring themselves.
A correct sized band should not be loose enough to get caught up. If a
correctly sized band gets caught up, your cage is dangerous.
>
> She tells me that if you are interested in being able to identify your
> bird that microchipping is far superior to banding.
Microchipping is introducing a foreign body into your pet and can have dire
results.
Out of all 90 odd birds I have here, the majority are banded, both caged
and aviary birds. In the 30 years I have kept birds, I have *never* had a
bird caught up by the band.
I think statistically a bird being caught by the band is very very very
slight. As I said before, it is a valuable means of identification if your
bird gets lots, plus, should you keepp several birds and perhaps wish to
breed, a band will show you who bred the bird, how old it is etc.
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| jmcquown |
oldmolly wrote:
> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:kVZNb.7157$0t4.1431@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> I took Peaches the lovebird to the vet because she had been banded
>> and the band was bugging her. She had started tugging at it and
>> generally worrying at it. She'd started feather plucking around the
>> top of that leg. Oh no, must nip that in the bud! He concurred
>> with my assessment and removed the band, which isn't required unless
>> a bird is imported.
>
> Actually it is a valuable method of identification should you lose
> your bird.
Not true. When the band was removed it had no information other than the
breeders' mark; not even her birth date. It was useless and was bothering
her no end. Wouldn't have helped identify her in any way, shape or form.
But then, I've never "lost" a bird.
Jill
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| Marco |
"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> oldmolly wrote:
> > "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:kVZNb.7157$0t4.1431@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> >>
> >> I took Peaches the lovebird to the vet because she had been banded
> >> and the band was bugging her. She had started tugging at it and
> >> generally worrying at it. She'd started feather plucking around the
> >> top of that leg. Oh no, must nip that in the bud! He concurred
> >> with my assessment and removed the band, which isn't required unless
> >> a bird is imported.
> >
> > Actually it is a valuable method of identification should you lose
> > your bird.
>
> Not true. When the band was removed it had no information other than the
> breeders' mark; not even her birth date. It was useless and was bothering
> her no end. Wouldn't have helped identify her in any way, shape or form.
> But then, I've never "lost" a bird.
>
> Jill
If by 'breeder's mark' you mean some numbers and letters, that's exactly the
information that would be useful to id her in case she gets lost. Let me
explain... bird gets lost, someone finds it, you try to claim it, they ask
you for proof it is yours, you say "band number XXX0000". get it?
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| jmcquown |
Marco wrote:
> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>> oldmolly wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:kVZNb.7157$0t4.1431@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>>
>>>> I took Peaches the lovebird to the vet because she had been banded
>>>> and the band was bugging her. She had started tugging at it and
>>>> generally worrying at it. She'd started feather plucking around
>>>> the top of that leg.
(snip)
>>> Actually it is a valuable method of identification should you lose
>>> your bird.
>>
>> Not true. When the band was removed it had no information other
>> than the breeders' mark; not even her birth date. It was useless
>> and was bothering her no end.
(snip)
> If by 'breeder's mark' you mean some numbers and letters, that's
> exactly the information that would be useful to id her in case she
> gets lost. Let me explain... bird gets lost, someone finds it, you
> try to claim it, they ask you for proof it is yours, you say "band
> number XXX0000". get it?
I get it. And again, I've never "lost" a bird. Even if I did, it's
doubtful in this area that someone would make note of the numbers on the
band and call upon those to identify the bird. I live in the middle of
nowhere. The band was bothering her; she'd started plucking her feathers
around her leg after trying for a couple of weeks to pull the band off.
She's a much happier bird without the irritating band.
Jill.
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| Marco |
"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Marco wrote:
> > "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:LGhOb.16162$0t4.2322@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> >> oldmolly wrote:
> >>> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:kVZNb.7157$0t4.1431@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> >>>>
> >>>> I took Peaches the lovebird to the vet because she had been banded
> >>>> and the band was bugging her. She had started tugging at it and
> >>>> generally worrying at it. She'd started feather plucking around
> >>>> the top of that leg.
> (snip)
> >>> Actually it is a valuable method of identification should you lose
> >>> your bird.
> >>
> >> Not true. When the band was removed it had no information other
> >> than the breeders' mark; not even her birth date. It was useless
> >> and was bothering her no end.
> (snip)
> > If by 'breeder's mark' you mean some numbers and letters, that's
> > exactly the information that would be useful to id her in case she
> > gets lost. Let me explain... bird gets lost, someone finds it, you
> > try to claim it, they ask you for proof it is yours, you say "band
> > number XXX0000". get it?
>
> I get it. And again, I've never "lost" a bird. Even if I did, it's
> doubtful in this area that someone would make note of the numbers on the
> band and call upon those to identify the bird. I live in the middle of
> nowhere. The band was bothering her; she'd started plucking her feathers
> around her leg after trying for a couple of weeks to pull the band off.
> She's a much happier bird without the irritating band.
>
> Jill.
I'm noy saying you did right or wrong... what was trying to explain was that
a legband with numbers on it *IS* a good form of id in case a bird flies
off, is stolen, etc.
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