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PJGolden1
I'm new to your newsgroup. And excited to be here, which means that I have
birds...again.

I used to breed parrots (cockatiels, budgies, senegals, quakers) while owning
as pets bare eyed cockatoo, orange wing amazon, blue and gold macaw, senegal.
My bare eyed cockatoo passed away due to addison's disease, my orange wing
started feather plucking so I had to give him/her up to a breeder so it could
"soothe the urge", my senegal decided that the only love in her life was men
and my hubby couldn't stand the bird so I found her an owner that she dearly
loved on first bite, and my macaw died of what the vet determined was a bad
heart. I sold my flock when I had to go to work full time. I just couldn't
put in the hours needed to be the good breeder that a buyer deserved.

That was 17 years ago. My family kept seeing me slide over to the canary cages
at all the pet shops and sigh so they surprised me with a pair of canaries!
They knew that I had always wanted a pair and I wanted of course to hear them
sing. They also knew that I no longer wanted a type of bird that demanded the
physical atttention that parrots need and deserve. It's nice to have birds
again!

So many things have changed. Like DNA testing to determine sex. Not at all
like the old days with the surgical sexing. I'd like to find out what sex my
birds are so tomorrow I guess I call my old avian vet and see if he does that.
Has anyone had that done on canaries? Do you know approximate price?

I used to use only Nekton vitamins with my birds. I was looking online tonight
and am confused with what Nekton vitamin to use. My first confession is that
I did slip out and buy me a red factor male canary, but right now he looks like
orange sherbet with feet. Would I use the Nekton-R or the Nekton R-beta? The
two other canaries would be using the same water dish, one is a yellow canary
and the other is what I think is called a green canary. He actually kinda
looks like a sparrow.

Any help would really be appreciated. And the thread on names has been really
funny. I haven't named mine and some of these names are a hoot.

Thanks,
Paula
oldmolly

"PJGolden1" <pjgolden1@aol.comdropthis> wrote in message
news:20031228213929.14167.00002012@mb-m28.aol.com...
> I'm new to your newsgroup. And excited to be here, which means that I

have
> birds...again.
>
> I used to breed parrots (cockatiels, budgies, senegals, quakers) while

owning
> as pets bare eyed cockatoo, orange wing amazon, blue and gold macaw,

senegal.
> My bare eyed cockatoo passed away due to addison's disease, my orange wing
> started feather plucking so I had to give him/her up to a breeder so it

could
> "soothe the urge", my senegal decided that the only love in her life was

men
> and my hubby couldn't stand the bird so I found her an owner that she

dearly
> loved on first bite, and my macaw died of what the vet determined was a

bad
> heart. I sold my flock when I had to go to work full time. I just

couldn't
> put in the hours needed to be the good breeder that a buyer deserved.
>
> That was 17 years ago. My family kept seeing me slide over to the canary

cages
> at all the pet shops and sigh so they surprised me with a pair of

canaries!
> They knew that I had always wanted a pair and I wanted of course to hear

them
> sing. They also knew that I no longer wanted a type of bird that demanded

the
> physical atttention that parrots need and deserve. It's nice to have

birds
> again!
>
> So many things have changed. Like DNA testing to determine sex. Not at

all
> like the old days with the surgical sexing. I'd like to find out what sex

my
> birds are so tomorrow I guess I call my old avian vet and see if he does

that.
> Has anyone had that done on canaries? Do you know approximate price?
>
> I used to use only Nekton vitamins with my birds. I was looking online

tonight
> and am confused with what Nekton vitamin to use. My first confession is

that
> I did slip out and buy me a red factor male canary, but right now he looks

like
> orange sherbet with feet. Would I use the Nekton-R or the Nekton R-beta?

The
> two other canaries would be using the same water dish, one is a yellow

canary
> and the other is what I think is called a green canary. He actually kinda
> looks like a sparrow.
>
> Any help would really be appreciated. And the thread on names has been

really
> funny. I haven't named mine and some of these names are a hoot.
>

For an experienced bird person I'm surprised to actually want to use
vitamins at all, and very surprised that you got birds without seemingly,
knowing how to care for them. Such a shame you got rid of your previous
birds but I ecpect it was the best thing to do for them.


Marco
>Subject: Re: Hi! I'm new...
>From: "oldmolly" oldmolly1@ntlworld.com
>Date: 12/29/2003 8:48 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <1aWHb.12435$526.83032@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>
>
>
>"PJGolden1" <pjgolden1@aol.comdropthis> wrote in message
>news:20031228213929.14167.00002012@mb-m28.aol.com...
>> I'm new to your newsgroup. And excited to be here, which means that I

>have
>> birds...again.
>>
>> I used to breed parrots (cockatiels, budgies, senegals, quakers) while

>owning
>> as pets bare eyed cockatoo, orange wing amazon, blue and gold macaw,

>senegal.
>> My bare eyed cockatoo passed away due to addison's disease, my orange wing
>> started feather plucking so I had to give him/her up to a breeder so it

>could
>> "soothe the urge", my senegal decided that the only love in her life was

>men
>> and my hubby couldn't stand the bird so I found her an owner that she

>dearly
>> loved on first bite, and my macaw died of what the vet determined was a

>bad
>> heart. I sold my flock when I had to go to work full time. I just

>couldn't
>> put in the hours needed to be the good breeder that a buyer deserved.
>>
>> That was 17 years ago. My family kept seeing me slide over to the canary

>cages
>> at all the pet shops and sigh so they surprised me with a pair of

>canaries!
>> They knew that I had always wanted a pair and I wanted of course to hear

>them
>> sing. They also knew that I no longer wanted a type of bird that demanded

>the
>> physical atttention that parrots need and deserve. It's nice to have

>birds
>> again!
>>
>> So many things have changed. Like DNA testing to determine sex. Not at

>all
>> like the old days with the surgical sexing. I'd like to find out what sex

>my
>> birds are so tomorrow I guess I call my old avian vet and see if he does

>that.
>> Has anyone had that done on canaries? Do you know approximate price?
>>
>> I used to use only Nekton vitamins with my birds. I was looking online

>tonight
>> and am confused with what Nekton vitamin to use. My first confession is

>that
>> I did slip out and buy me a red factor male canary, but right now he looks

>like
>> orange sherbet with feet. Would I use the Nekton-R or the Nekton R-beta?

>The
>> two other canaries would be using the same water dish, one is a yellow

>canary
>> and the other is what I think is called a green canary. He actually kinda
>> looks like a sparrow.
>>
>> Any help would really be appreciated. And the thread on names has been

>really
>> funny. I haven't named mine and some of these names are a hoot.
>>

> For an experienced bird person I'm surprised to actually want to use
>vitamins at all, and very surprised that you got birds without seemingly,
>knowing how to care for them. Such a shame you got rid of your previous
>birds but I ecpect it was the best thing to do for them.
>


Molly, notice he said that he gave his flock up about 17 years ago... a LOT has
changed since then and we have learned a lot in this last 17 years and there
are many things people don't do anymore that might've been 'must do' things
back then.
:)

~Marco~
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Prater
WELCOME! I'm fairly new here, too.

And I can't even give you an opinion about the vitamins. We don't give them
to our Cockatoo. I'll have to read up on that subject.

Enjoy you're new babies. And don't be afraid to ask questions. You'll find
most of the group very helpful and friendly and those who aren't don't
matter anyway. :)

Toni

"PJGolden1" <pjgolden1@aol.comdropthis> wrote in message
news:20031228213929.14167.00002012@mb-m28.aol.com...
> I'm new to your newsgroup. And excited to be here, which means that I

have
> birds...again.
>
> I used to breed parrots (cockatiels, budgies, senegals, quakers) while

owning
> as pets bare eyed cockatoo, orange wing amazon, blue and gold macaw,

senegal.
> My bare eyed cockatoo passed away due to addison's disease, my orange wing
> started feather plucking so I had to give him/her up to a breeder so it

could
> "soothe the urge", my senegal decided that the only love in her life was

men
> and my hubby couldn't stand the bird so I found her an owner that she

dearly
> loved on first bite, and my macaw died of what the vet determined was a

bad
> heart. I sold my flock when I had to go to work full time. I just

couldn't
> put in the hours needed to be the good breeder that a buyer deserved.
>
> That was 17 years ago. My family kept seeing me slide over to the canary

cages
> at all the pet shops and sigh so they surprised me with a pair of

canaries!
> They knew that I had always wanted a pair and I wanted of course to hear

them
> sing. They also knew that I no longer wanted a type of bird that demanded

the
> physical atttention that parrots need and deserve. It's nice to have

birds
> again!
>
> So many things have changed. Like DNA testing to determine sex. Not at

all
> like the old days with the surgical sexing. I'd like to find out what sex

my
> birds are so tomorrow I guess I call my old avian vet and see if he does

that.
> Has anyone had that done on canaries? Do you know approximate price?
>
> I used to use only Nekton vitamins with my birds. I was looking online

tonight
> and am confused with what Nekton vitamin to use. My first confession is

that
> I did slip out and buy me a red factor male canary, but right now he looks

like
> orange sherbet with feet. Would I use the Nekton-R or the Nekton R-beta?

The
> two other canaries would be using the same water dish, one is a yellow

canary
> and the other is what I think is called a green canary. He actually kinda
> looks like a sparrow.
>
> Any help would really be appreciated. And the thread on names has been

really
> funny. I haven't named mine and some of these names are a hoot.
>
> Thanks,
> Paula



Vox

On 29-Dec-2003, pjgolden1@aol.comdropthis (PJGolden1) wrote:

> So many things have changed. Like DNA testing to determine sex. Not at
> all
> like the old days with the surgical sexing. I'd like to find out what sex
> my
> birds are so tomorrow I guess I call my old avian vet and see if he does
> that.
> Has anyone had that done on canaries? Do you know approximate price?


Not necessary on canaries, they are pretty easy to sex on the perch, if you
know them. If you are still unsure, catch them up and look at the vent.
The males have ' feeler feathers' growing from the tip of the vent and the
females dont. You might have to blow on the vent to expose it enough to
see properly.


> I used to use only Nekton vitamins with my birds. I was looking online
> tonight
> and am confused with what Nekton vitamin to use. My first confession is
> that
> I did slip out and buy me a red factor male canary, but right now he looks
> like
> orange sherbet with feet.


Red factors need extra Vit. A to produce the red pigment in new feathers.
Much like humans turning yellow when overdosed. Without it, they all
revert to the ' washed-out orange' colour.
I leave it to you to decide whether you want red or orange birds.

All the above was common knowledge in aviculture, even 30 years ago.
A lot has been discovered in the past 17 years, particularly to do with
avian virology, but basic aviculture is still the same.

BTW, I don't even breed or keep canaries. I only do parrots.
My last contact with canaries was well over 30 years ago.


Vox.
kensbuns
Hi! I'm new too. I was given a parrott by a friend and I dont know what kind it is. What I do know is that it is an amazon and he is apporox 12 years old. Now that we have him I dont know how we have lived without him all of these years. His new name
is Lego. The other owner called him Lumpy???? He seems to be very smart but he is bald under his wings. Is this normal??? Does anyone know. And also can anyone figure out what kind of amazon he is. His head is teal blue and he has a splash of red as
well. His beak and feet are bone.



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