| Sukie's article in December Ferrets Mag - CLICK HERE for the Pet Manual Forum Home Page |
| Brett Middleton |
After reading Sukie Crandall's article in the December "Ferrets
Magazine", I wrote her the following:
> Loved your article in the Dec. "Ferrets Magazine". I, too, am one of
> your SF-loving ferret lovers, and I'm writing this while surrounded by
> about 1500 volumes of SF dating back to the early 60s, not even counting
> my collection of Analog magazines. Until your article, I had never even
> noticed that my fellow fuzz freaks were also SF freaks.
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> But ... I'm feeling a slight cognitive dissonance here. You see, most
> SF lovers of my acquaintance (not to mention computer users) are also
> pretty libertarian. Particularly readers of many of the early authors
> such as Robert Heinlein, Poul Anderson, Eric Frank Russell, H. Beam
> Piper, etc. Yet, most of the fert people of my acquaintance seem to be
> of the left- liberal persuasion. Even though any libertarian would
> gladly support ferret legalization (as with Michael Lynch of the Pacific
> Research Institute), fert lovers seem to reject this obvious alliance
> because it contradicts other agendas of which they approve.
>
> I think you're really on to something with your article. But, I think
> you may need to dig deeper to get at the three-dimensional nature of the
> beliefs and attitudes involved here. This might be a good discussion
> for apf and/or fob. I will post it on either or both, if you have no
> objection?
Sukie said she didn't have any objections, so here it is!
Brett
*SLMW 1.0* No animals were harmed in the production of this message.
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Brett Middleton wrote:
> After reading Sukie Crandall's article in the December "Ferrets
> Magazine", I wrote her the following:
>
>
>>Loved your article in the Dec. "Ferrets Magazine". I, too, am one of
>>your SF-loving ferret lovers, and I'm writing this while surrounded by
>>about 1500 volumes of SF dating back to the early 60s, not even counting
>>my collection of Analog magazines. Until your article, I had never even
>>noticed that my fellow fuzz freaks were also SF freaks.
>>
>>But ... I'm feeling a slight cognitive dissonance here. You see, most
>>SF lovers of my acquaintance (not to mention computer users) are also
>>pretty libertarian. Particularly readers of many of the early authors
>>such as Robert Heinlein, Poul Anderson, Eric Frank Russell, H. Beam
>>Piper, etc. Yet, most of the fert people of my acquaintance seem to be
>>of the left- liberal persuasion. Even though any libertarian would
>>gladly support ferret legalization (as with Michael Lynch of the Pacific
>>Research Institute), fert lovers seem to reject this obvious alliance
>>because it contradicts other agendas of which they approve.
>>
>>I think you're really on to something with your article. But, I think
>>you may need to dig deeper to get at the three-dimensional nature of the
>>beliefs and attitudes involved here. This might be a good discussion
>>for apf and/or fob. I will post it on either or both, if you have no
>>objection?
>
>
Well I'm not "one of your acquaintances"... but you can chalk me up for
the 100% not liberal group. I do not know the background to your
response, as I have not read the article, but I do think saying "any
libertarian would gladly support ferret legalization" is a very broad
statement--and probably not 100% accurate ;)
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Brian
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| Cap |
Well, I happen to know that several other posters here are
card-carrying, terrorist-bashing, Dean & Hillary-can-go-to-hell, Bush
in 2004, Republicans, and damn proud of it.
No offense Brett.
;-)
Brett Middleton <brettm@uga.edu> wrote in message news:<5tikuv0npc5ven7cic7cjkmvhar139ne93@4ax.com>...
Yet, most of the fert people of my acquaintance seem to be
> of the left- liberal persuasion. Even though any libertarian would
> gladly support ferret legalization (as with Michael Lynch of the Pacific
> Research Institute), fert lovers seem to reject this obvious alliance
> because it contradicts other agendas of which they approve.
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| jumpingmouse & kylie |
Well said, Cap. Count me in :-)
jumpingmouseu & kylie
"Cap" <cap_@sand-n-sea.us> wrote in message
news:53d2a9d2.0312250905.466107f8@posting.google.com...
> Well, I happen to know that several other posters here are
> card-carrying, terrorist-bashing, Dean & Hillary-can-go-to-hell, Bush
> in 2004, Republicans, and damn proud of it.
> No offense Brett.
> ;-)
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> Brett Middleton <brettm@uga.edu> wrote in message
news:<5tikuv0npc5ven7cic7cjkmvhar139ne93@4ax.com>...
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> Yet, most of the fert people of my acquaintance seem to be
> > of the left- liberal persuasion. Even though any libertarian would
> > gladly support ferret legalization (as with Michael Lynch of the Pacific
> > Research Institute), fert lovers seem to reject this obvious alliance
> > because it contradicts other agendas of which they approve.
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Cap wrote:
> Well, I happen to know that several other posters here are
> card-carrying, terrorist-bashing, Dean & Hillary-can-go-to-hell, Bush
> in 2004, Republicans, and damn proud of it.
> No offense Brett.
> ;-)
>
LOL.
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Brian
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| Jason and Holly Harper |
Count me in. Afterall, one ferret is named George and my cat is named
Texas. Oh and we use Dubbya as Georgie's middle name. ;-)
Holly
"Cap" <cap_@sand-n-sea.us> wrote in message
news:53d2a9d2.0312250905.466107f8@posting.google.com...
> Well, I happen to know that several other posters here are
> card-carrying, terrorist-bashing, Dean & Hillary-can-go-to-hell, Bush
> in 2004, Republicans, and damn proud of it.
> No offense Brett.
> ;-)
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> Brett Middleton <brettm@uga.edu> wrote in message
news:<5tikuv0npc5ven7cic7cjkmvhar139ne93@4ax.com>...
>
> Yet, most of the fert people of my acquaintance seem to be
> > of the left- liberal persuasion. Even though any libertarian would
> > gladly support ferret legalization (as with Michael Lynch of the Pacific
> > Research Institute), fert lovers seem to reject this obvious alliance
> > because it contradicts other agendas of which they approve.
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| Marty |
Ahhh!
Home at last!
Happy Holidays everybody!
Marty
"Cap" <cap_@sand-n-sea.us> wrote in message
news:53d2a9d2.0312250905.466107f8@posting.google.com...
> Well, I happen to know that several other posters here are
> card-carrying, terrorist-bashing, Dean & Hillary-can-go-to-hell, Bush
> in 2004, Republicans, and damn proud of it.
> No offense Brett.
> ;-)
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| Brett Middleton |
cap_@sand-n-sea.us (Cap) wrote:
>Well, I happen to know that several other posters here are
>card-carrying, terrorist-bashing, Dean & Hillary-can-go-to-hell, Bush
>in 2004, Republicans, and damn proud of it.
>No offense Brett.
>;-)
No offense at all! Many of us card-carrying libertarians have a lot in
common with some card-carrying Republicans (especially with
individualists like you, Cap), but I can even get along with a Dean &
Hillary lover as long as they're also ferret lovers.
My goal in posting this was to try to get a sense of the political
sensibilities of my fellow fuzz-lovers, as well as their literary
sensibilities, so I was hoping somebody would contradict my
presumptions. I'm just trying to put together a three-dimensional
picture of the ferret community out of sheer ferret-type curiousity. I
can never be offended by the facts!
Brett
*SLMW 1.0* A ferret at rest cannot be stopped.
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| Lin |
"Brett Middleton" <brettm@uga.edu> wrote in message
news:ormsuv81brecmucl7088hkpvi98aicjse5@4ax.com...
> cap_@sand-n-sea.us (Cap) wrote:
> >Well, I happen to know that several other posters here are
> >card-carrying, terrorist-bashing, Dean & Hillary-can-go-to-hell, Bush
> >in 2004, Republicans, and damn proud of it.
> >No offense Brett.
> >;-)
>
> No offense at all! Many of us card-carrying libertarians have a lot in
> common with some card-carrying Republicans (especially with
> individualists like you, Cap), but I can even get along with a Dean &
> Hillary lover as long as they're also ferret lovers.
>
> My goal in posting this was to try to get a sense of the political
> sensibilities of my fellow fuzz-lovers, as well as their literary
> sensibilities, so I was hoping somebody would contradict my
> presumptions. I'm just trying to put together a three-dimensional
> picture of the ferret community out of sheer ferret-type curiousity. I
> can never be offended by the facts!
I don't *believe* in politicians. I think they're a figment of their own
imaginations.
Does that count?
Lin, Ariel, Oberon, & Max
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| Larry C. Lyons |
Brett Middleton wrote:
not much beyond the typical libertarian drivel (
Being a card carrying Liberal and damned proud of it (look up what the
majority party in Canada is called, at least parties in Canada approach
honesty)- I think that you're completely wrong. Most ferret owners are
not libertarian, rather their politial beliefs spread all over the
political spectrum.
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Larry C. Lyons
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| Brett Middleton |
"Lin" <ktnil@woh.rr.com> wrote:
>I don't *believe* in politicians. I think they're a figment of their own
>imaginations.
>Does that count?
I guess. But, if they only exist in *their* imaginations, how come
they're in *my* nightmares? B-) <cue Twilight Zone theme ... >
Brett
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| Brett Middleton |
"Larry C. Lyons" <LarryCLyons@someoneElse.Invalid> wrote:
>Brett Middleton wrote:
>not much beyond the typical libertarian drivel (
That may be the root of my hardware problems. Know what foam from the
mouth does to a keyboard??
Brett
*SLMW 1.0* "But what if he's got a pointed stick?" -- M. Python
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