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| John Hines |
I'm getting a Goffin in a few weeks, and am planning to take it to the
vet for a well baby check, establish a baseline, etc.
Is there any reason, other than saving the $40 for procedure, to not
have it done?
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| Digital_Cowboy |
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"John Hines" <jbhines@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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| I'm getting a Goffin in a few weeks, and am planning to take it to the
| vet for a well baby check, establish a baseline, etc.
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| Is there any reason, other than saving the $40 for procedure, to not
| have it done?
John,
Not having WHAT done??? The well bird checkup or the chipping? A well bird
checkup is ALWAYS worth the money. As for the chipping I've never done it nor
had anyone in my area that I know of who does it so I cannot comment.
But I would ask the vet IF he has a lot of pts who are/have been chipped.
And which system, as I do know from the research that I'd done on it a while ago
that NOT all cities/counties/states use the same system and just because it
works in one area DOES NOT mean that it'll work IF you move.
DC
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| John Hines |
"Digital_Cowboy" <Nobody@nobody.com> wrote:
> Not having WHAT done??? The well bird checkup or the chipping? A well bird
>checkup is ALWAYS worth the money. As for the chipping I've never done it nor
>had anyone in my area that I know of who does it so I cannot comment.
The ID chip, as that only has the advantage of locating in case of loss.
As with any procedure, there is a tiny risk of loss (of the bird).
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| Digital_Cowboy |
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| "Digital_Cowboy" <Nobody@nobody.com> wrote:
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| > Not having WHAT done??? The well bird checkup or the chipping? A well
bird
| >checkup is ALWAYS worth the money. As for the chipping I've never done it
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| >had anyone in my area that I know of who does it so I cannot comment.
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| The ID chip, as that only has the advantage of locating in case of loss.
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| As with any procedure, there is a tiny risk of loss (of the bird).
John,
I would have to say ask your vet if he can put you in touch with people who
have had their birds, or other animals chipped. But when it comes right down to
it I'd have to say that it's a personal choice. As only YOU can accurately
weigh the pros and cons of having it done.
DC
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| John Hines |
"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote:
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>| > Not having WHAT done??? The well bird checkup or the chipping? A well
>bird
>| >checkup is ALWAYS worth the money. As for the chipping I've never done it
>nor
>| >had anyone in my area that I know of who does it so I cannot comment.
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>| The ID chip, as that only has the advantage of locating in case of loss.
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>| As with any procedure, there is a tiny risk of loss (of the bird).
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>John,
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> I would have to say ask your vet if he can put you in touch with people who
>have had their birds, or other animals chipped. But when it comes right down to
>it I'd have to say that it's a personal choice. As only YOU can accurately
>weigh the pros and cons of having it done.
I'm asking here, as it will be a few weeks until the vet visit. That and
I need a break from "parrot proofing". <G>
So far, with what I've heard and learned, has changed my opinion from
slightly for, to slightly pro.
I will discuss all the options with the DVM.
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| Digital_Cowboy |
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| I'm asking here, as it will be a few weeks until the vet visit. That and
| I need a break from "parrot proofing". <G>
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| So far, with what I've heard and learned, has changed my opinion from
| slightly for, to slightly pro.
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| I will discuss all the options with the DVM.
John,
Ok, what have you heard that makes you go from slightly for to slightly pro?
Keep in mind that as I've said before just because the chip works in your
current area does not mean that it'll work IF you move. As there are several
different makes, brands, and types of chips. And readers for them and a reader
for chip "A" may not work with chip "B." In which case it would be as if your
bird isn't chipped at all.
What chip do they use in your area?
DC
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| matt weber |
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:03:45 -0600, John Hines <jbhines@newsguy.com>
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>I'm getting a Goffin in a few weeks, and am planning to take it to the
>vet for a well baby check, establish a baseline, etc.
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>Is there any reason, other than saving the $40 for procedure, to not
>have it done?
Any one who buys an expensive bird, where the purchase is not
conditional upon satifactory health check from a licensed vet is a
FOOL!
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| John Hines |
"Digital_Cowboy" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote:
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>| I'm asking here, as it will be a few weeks until the vet visit. That and
>| I need a break from "parrot proofing". <G>
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>| So far, with what I've heard and learned, has changed my opinion from
>| slightly for, to slightly pro.
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>| I will discuss all the options with the DVM.
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>John,
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> Ok, what have you heard that makes you go from slightly for to slightly pro?
The risk of being sedated. I thought it was a far simpler procedure,
not requiring being gassed.
There is a small, but very real risk, with anesthesia.
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| John Hines |
matt weber <mattheww50@cox.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:03:45 -0600, John Hines <jbhines@newsguy.com>
>wrote:
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>>I'm getting a Goffin in a few weeks, and am planning to take it to the
>>vet for a well baby check, establish a baseline, etc.
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>>Is there any reason, other than saving the $40 for procedure, to not
>>have it done?
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>Any one who buys an expensive bird, where the purchase is not
>conditional upon satifactory health check from a licensed vet is a
>FOOL!
I've been buying animals from her for over 20 years, and yet to get a
bad one. Bird is eating pellets, 6mo, and has been in the shop under
observation for a month or more.
In summary, this is from a good pet shop, not a chain, or fly by night
operation.
And this gonna be my baby, so it is going to get regular DVM visits,
I've already called for info, haven't yet scheduled the appt.
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| jwallace |
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John
I had my B&G chipped a few years ago. The chip was inserted through a
needle into the breast tissue. It hurt me watching the procedure more than
it hurt her. She never let out a peep. My vet used an AVID PETtrac chip.
They offer a nation wide registry for I think $15. As always, it's best to
check with your vet.
Jim
"John Hines" <jbhines@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> The risk of being sedated. I thought it was a far simpler procedure,
> not requiring being gassed.
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> There is a small, but very real risk, with anesthesia.
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| The risk of being sedated. I thought it was a far simpler procedure,
| not requiring being gassed.
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| There is a small, but very real risk, with anesthesia.
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John,
Ok, that sounds like a con, not a pro. . .And yes there is ALWAYS a risk
with any form of anesthesia be it a bird, cat, dog, or human. And I have to say
that from what little I've heard I have to agree with ya in that I thought it
was "just a 'simple' procedure." Such as inserting it with a needle and syringe
and that anesthesia would not be required. . .
DC
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| AFLane |
I thought about getting my three birds chipped, especially since I take two
of them all over town with me (weather permitting). My vet is willing to do
the procedure. But she warned me that the birds would be "put under" with
anesthesia. When any bird is put under, there's the risk of death. I'm not
willing to risk my babies' lives. In fact, she has NOT chipped any of her
own birds -- she isn't willing to risk them either. I'll just make sure
wings are kept trimmed, and keep them in their port-a-cages when doing
errands and road-trips.
Amy
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| oldmolly |
"John Hines" <jbhines@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> A FOF died on the table this year, undergoing obesity surgery, due to
> some kind of anesthesia reaction. I'm taking the risks a bit more
> seriously these days :(
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FOF = fillet of fish?
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| John Hines |
"oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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>"John Hines" <jbhines@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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>> A FOF died on the table this year, undergoing obesity surgery, due to
>> some kind of anesthesia reaction. I'm taking the risks a bit more
>> seriously these days :(
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> FOF = fillet of fish?
Friend Of Friend.
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| thehouse@pooh.corner |
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 23:05:49 GMT, "AFLane" <aflane@attdotnet.net>
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><(((*> But she warned me that the birds would be "put under" with
><(((*> anesthesia. When any bird is put under, there's the risk of death. I'm not
><(((*> willing to risk my babies' lives. In fact, she has NOT chipped any of her
><(((*> own birds -- she isn't willing to risk them either.
That doesn't make sense. When I had my bird microchipped, he was
fully conscious, they injected the chip with a syringe, and there
wasn't any question of anesthesia.
Either your vet is using an expensive (and risky) procedure or
she is not properly informed about the alternatives.
My opinion? Shop around. Maybe you need a different vet.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| AFLane |
I'll talk to her about it again. Last time I spoke with her about chipping
was around a year ago. Maybe at that time, the procedure was to put the
bird under, and since then new developments have occurred. If she doesn't
have to put my birds under, then I'll definitely reconsider chipping. I'd
definitely prefer to have my birds recoverable should the horrible happen.
Amy
<thehouse@pooh.corner> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 23:05:49 GMT, "AFLane" <aflane@attdotnet.net>
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> ><(((*> But she warned me that the birds would be "put under" with
> ><(((*> anesthesia. When any bird is put under, there's the risk of
death. I'm not
> ><(((*> willing to risk my babies' lives. In fact, she has NOT chipped
any of her
> ><(((*> own birds -- she isn't willing to risk them either.
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> That doesn't make sense. When I had my bird microchipped, he was
> fully conscious, they injected the chip with a syringe, and there
> wasn't any question of anesthesia.
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> Either your vet is using an expensive (and risky) procedure or
> she is not properly informed about the alternatives.
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> My opinion? Shop around. Maybe you need a different vet.
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> Tara J. Ballance
> Montreal, Canada
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| mdfloyd |
Even TWO years ago good avian vets did not put a bird "under" to do
microchipping! It's a quick tiny injection, and the birds in my
experience get more aggravated about the alcohol swapped on their
chest than they do about the injection itself. I've had all four of
my parrots microchipped and have never had any problems with it
whatsoever.
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everything but the bird
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"AFLane" <aflane@attdotnet.net> wrote in message news:<eIxBb.173942$Ec1.6643025@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
> I'll talk to her about it again. Last time I spoke with her about chipping
> was around a year ago. Maybe at that time, the procedure was to put the
> bird under, and since then new developments have occurred. If she doesn't
> have to put my birds under, then I'll definitely reconsider chipping. I'd
> definitely prefer to have my birds recoverable should the horrible happen.
> Amy
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> <thehouse@pooh.corner> wrote in message
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> > On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 23:05:49 GMT, "AFLane" <aflane@attdotnet.net>
> > wrote:
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> > ><(((*> But she warned me that the birds would be "put under" with
> > ><(((*> anesthesia. When any bird is put under, there's the risk of
> death. I'm not
> > ><(((*> willing to risk my babies' lives. In fact, she has NOT chipped
> any of her
> > ><(((*> own birds -- she isn't willing to risk them either.
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> > That doesn't make sense. When I had my bird microchipped, he was
> > fully conscious, they injected the chip with a syringe, and there
> > wasn't any question of anesthesia.
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> > Either your vet is using an expensive (and risky) procedure or
> > she is not properly informed about the alternatives.
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> > My opinion? Shop around. Maybe you need a different vet.
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> > Tara J. Ballance
> > Montreal, Canada
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| oldmolly |
"John Hines" <jbhines@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> "oldmolly" <oldmolly1@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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> >"John Hines" <jbhines@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> >> A FOF died on the table this year, undergoing obesity surgery, due to
> >> some kind of anesthesia reaction. I'm taking the risks a bit more
> >> seriously these days :(
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> > FOF = fillet of fish?
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> Friend Of Friend.
Thanks. I went through a list of all the bird abbreviations I knew and
could not place what sort a FOF was lol.
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| John Hines |
mdfloyd@qx.net (mdfloyd) wrote:
>Even TWO years ago good avian vets did not put a bird "under" to do
>microchipping! It's a quick tiny injection, and the birds in my
>experience get more aggravated about the alcohol swapped on their
>chest than they do about the injection itself. I've had all four of
>my parrots microchipped and have never had any problems with it
>whatsoever.
Do you have a name, or maker of the chip system that your birds use?
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| mdfloyd |
I think it's Avi-Chip or some variation of that (I'm at work and my
birdie files are at home). My point was/is that good avian vets don't
put birds under for such a procedure.
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www.scritches.com
everything but the bird
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John Hines <jbhines@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<stfetvktdkiuhsge4e32crb7f6mbget15r@4ax.com>...
> mdfloyd@qx.net (mdfloyd) wrote:
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> >Even TWO years ago good avian vets did not put a bird "under" to do
> >microchipping! It's a quick tiny injection, and the birds in my
> >experience get more aggravated about the alcohol swapped on their
> >chest than they do about the injection itself. I've had all four of
> >my parrots microchipped and have never had any problems with it
> >whatsoever.
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> Do you have a name, or maker of the chip system that your birds use?
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| John Hines |
mdfloyd@qx.net (mdfloyd) wrote:
>I think it's Avi-Chip or some variation of that (I'm at work and my
>birdie files are at home). My point was/is that good avian vets don't
>put birds under for such a procedure.
http://www.avidmicrochip.com/answer.htm
Shows up as a system that can be injected.
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| John Hines |
"jwallace" <jwallace71@comcast.net> wrote:
>John
>I had my B&G chipped a few years ago. The chip was inserted through a
>needle into the breast tissue. It hurt me watching the procedure more than
>it hurt her. She never let out a peep. My vet used an AVID PETtrac chip.
Yeah, that was what I thought micro-chipping was about. That doesn't
sound nearly as bad as what my vet place was talking about.
A FOF died on the table this year, undergoing obesity surgery, due to
some kind of anesthesia reaction. I'm taking the risks a bit more
seriously these days :(
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